Thanks, I was going to take the snarky route and say, "George Strait is holding on line two and would like a word when you have a moment." 😉 Although, I have to wonder if Mike did it intentionally because he also kinda butchered the name of Massachusetts' state capital.
Jacksonville, Florida merged with Duval County. Is it really bigger than Miami and Tampa? Populations within the city limits are irrelevant. Largest city means nothing.
Did you know that there is a town in North Dakota named Sheyenne? There isn't much to it. It's near the Sheyenne River. It is the longest river without a tributary in North America.
Seriously?!? Having watched both videos, I just felt like "something" was missing. It was South Carolina! Wow, I'd be pissed if he had missed my state. I think Mileage Mike owes you a video all to yourself! (Maybe he thought you seceded or something.)
Regarding Ohio, it depends on the definition of metro areas. If you use COMBINED Metropolitan Statistical Area (CSA), Cleveland is by far the largest in Ohio, ranking #17 in the US at 3.7 million. That's why Cleveland feels like the largest metro area in Ohio. Columbus CSA comes in at #28 and Cincinnati at #33. 14:42
Ohio- incorporated Columbus has the largest population in Ohio, but its metro population is smaller than metro Cincinnati. When nearby Akron and Canton are included in the Cleveland metro area , this area has a much larger population than Columbus. Columbus is the seat of state government , but it does not dominate the state Cultural attractions, professional sports, entertainment assets, historic architecture and neighborhoods of Columbus are at a significantly lower level than the other metro areas.
As a Georgian, you hit the nail on the head about Atlanta. All of the economic opportunity is here. Speaking as someone who moved here from a small city in south Georgia.
Ohio’s three big cities are pretty interchangeable depending on how you look at them. Cincinnati has the biggest metro area, Cleveland has the largest combined statistical area, and Columbus is the largest individual city in the state having nearly three times as many people as Cleveland.
Traveling for work over the past 10 years I've been to all 3 over 100 times each and even without including akron area cleveland by far feels like the biggest metro
It’s also like this in many European countries regarding countries’ capital cities. I recently visited Greece and they were explaining how half of the population lives around Athens. The guide on our tour even went so far as to compare it to a U.S. state.
As far as for Ohio you can’t call Columbus the Alpha City of the State as you pointed out through statistics and had a poll it was too close to call. Heck you can make another video talking about Ohio being the only state in where 3 of its largest metros are almost the same population.
@@jjorjojoLMAO I go to school in Columbus and it is, by far, the least likable city I have ever visited. I’ve been to Cincy, Cleveland, Chicago, Dayton, Baton Rouge, New Orleans, Orlando, Atlanta, Seattle, Indianapolis, DC, St Louis, Louisville, Phoenix, Las Vegas, and many more. I would rather spend the rest of my life in any of those other cities than spend another day in Columbus after I graduate. It’s a flat, cultureless, cold, depressing waste of concrete
I as a resident of Bentonville Arkansas can say that majority of growth in our area can almost always be traced back to the Waltons. But I do recommend northwest Arkansas because of slight bias and also because of the natural beauty around us in the Ozark mountains, Arkansas got the nickname of “The Natural State” for good reasons. Also even though Walmart has been based here in Bentonville since it’s creation, it’s still weird that their actual headquarters is two blocks away from my house.
Minor correction: Providence is not the home of Rhode Island's flagship university, the U. of R.I. is is Kingston, though Providence does have the better-known Brown University.
I think that calling the Cincinnati metro area the largest in Ohio is flawed since a large portion of the Cincinnati suburbs are in Kentucky. The Cincinnati metro area is the largest, but Metro Cleveland is Ohio’s largest metro area.
@@juliogarcia9295 Actually, I'm not. Metro Cincy does cover 3 Counties in Extreme Southeastern Indiana (Dearborn, Franklin, and Ohio Counties) along with 5 counties in Southwestern Ohio (Hamilton, Warren, Clermont, Brown and Butler Counties) and 7 counties in Northern Kentucky (Boone, Bracken, Campbell, Gallatin, Grant and Kenton Counties).
I enjoy your videos Mileage Mike. I think Casper passed Cheyenne as the largest city in Wyoming in one of the previous censuses - maybe 1990 or 2000. But Cheyenne went back in the lead the next census.
Yeah Boston is bordered by like 20 other other cities and it's tough sometimes to tell if you've crossed into (or through) another city when you travel down a road.
The history of which towns got swallowed up by Boston and which remained independent is a fascinating study in wealth, power and racism. Not quite as interesting as LA, but that’s not a capital city.
Charleston West Virginia is a cool little city. Visit Taylor’s Books in the downtown area. There is a decent pizza place and good Thai restaurant from the bookstore within a short walk as well.
Charleston is such a cute little city; Chow Thai and Pies&Pints are excellent! Also recommend Karubee's Jamaican. The neighborhood around the Mound in South Charleston is also pretty cool. In my experience, Charleston and Huntington have been more successful than many small cities with declining populations at keeping some activity in the downtown and core city areas. Huntington is actually seeing a decent amount of investment at the moment, theres been lots of new construction and infrastructure repairs just in the last year or 2.
I live in Douglas County and went to school at Georgia Tech in Midtown Atlanta. I would go to the school gym to work out early in the morning, then go to class so I could avoid the morning traffic. I made sure to leave immediately after my last class at 3 pm to avoid the afternoon traffic. If not, a 35-minute drive would end up taking well over an hour. I also tried to avoid the I-75 and I-285 at all cost by taking the backroads or the streets to the I-20. Atlanta traffic is about as bad as D.C. traffic.
The interesting thing about Utah is that by city proper, west valley and West Jordan are the 2nd and 3rd biggest cities. But based off Metro Provo and Ogden are the 2nd and 3rd largest cities
as a hoosier, I can confirm that Indianapolis and its surrounding counties alone, even Marion and Hamilton county alone (Marion has around 980,000 people, Hamilton has 230,000) has more population than the entire state of South Dakota.
I don't think Des Moines qualifies. It's not large enough and it's media and politics don't dominate the state like other capitals do. You have the Quad Cities, Omaha, are about the same size with their own media/DMA completely seperate. Not to mention IowaCity/Cedar Rapids DMA. The 3 major state Universities are not located in DesMoines. Major transportation arteries (both rivers, major rail routes, airports and even interstate freeways are dispersed throughout the state.
@@papaechozulu3737 Omaha is in Nebraska, in case you didn't know that, as well as only half of the Quad cities are in Iowa. Not sure if you even understand what the video was about. The biggest thing with Iowa is it is definitely divided by east and west, as neither side, even Des Moines don't really think about the other side existing or significant.
Even though Jackson’s metro is safe, I don’t think the city itself will be largest much longer if things don’t get turned around within the next 25-30 years. Jackson’s population is dropping like a rock. Southaven is the third largest, but growing fast than second-place Gulfport.
I've lived in Gulfport and Long Beach before I moved to Florida in 2019 for school, but before I moved out, I wanted to see how the colleges were in Jackson. Let me tell you, Jackson is one of the worst cities I have ever seen. Potholes and abandoned buildings everywhere, and as our state capital, I was so embarassed and pissed off of how the capital represented Mississippi's ideals. I wasn't surprised when I heard about the water situation in Jackson.
@@Crocos1 As a Jackson resident, I can’t really dispute this. I hope we don’t become as bad as Gary, IN or Flint, MI, but we’re heading in that direction.
@@Gatorsfan601 I really wish the best of luck to you. Hopefully the state government has been helping you all out. I heard they intervened, but I don't know to what extent.
Being here from OKC I've been waiting to hear you talk about OK. Even if it was for less than 5 minutes lol. You made some really interesting points about OK. Ironically, today 12/12/23, OKC voters are voting on wether or not to build a new arena to keep our NBA team in OKC to at least 2050. It will be interesting to see how it goes since it seems pretty split down the middle.
So outside of I assume not wanting to pay for the arena, are there any other reasons why the vote would swing to “no”? I don’t live in the state, I’m just curious.
I’ve lived in Ohio my whole life, in the southeast, Columbus, Dayton, and Cincinnati. Almost EVERYONE I know is moving to Columbus, including me later this year. Columbus is booming and industries are taking notice, making it boom even more.
I've lived near Columbus my whole life so far and so has my family, particularly my paternal lineage, for abt 100 years. When family move away, even as far as California, they always come back eventually. Every time I've been down there, particularly for local music shows, it always feels so alive and I doubt that'll ever change. Even if I myself plan to move to upstate NY later, I can see myself eventually coming back to Columbus just as my family has time and time again.
2:44 Northeast Arkansas is also a good place to live in Arkansas. I figured I’d mention it since in every single video that brings up Arkansas doesn’t bring it up.
"Where you sill find all of Indiana's attractions" Both of its theme parks are in the middle of nowhere. Indiana Beach is closer to Lafayette than Indy (you could go there on a weekend from Indy-but you would be insane to commute 90mins-2hrs from Indy to work there) and Holiday World is closer to Evansville, almost halfway between Evansville and Louisville and the park does provide a shuttle from Evansville to Santa Claus to support employment and now has a dorm structure for people from outside the Evansville metro (only one building at the time of this video's production)
I visited the OKC area for a week and was definitely impressed with their downtown area. It kind of reminds me of Austin before it became overpopulated. I would highly encourage you to spend a week there and report back. 😁
West Virginia is the most replayed segment in the video. Not sure why that is, but it's pretty interesting since I lived in Charleston for a couple of years. Speaking of, the dynamic between Charleston and Huntington is noteworthy. The suburbs sort of blend together. Part of this is because of the topography. Most population centers in West Virginia spring up in valleys because that's the majority of flat land in the state. So, for Charleston you have the Elk River to the north, with suburbs like Mink Shoals and Elkview; Kanawha River upstream to the east, with suburbs like Marmet and Belle. Then, you have this valley to the west that eventually connects to Huntington. And there you have suburbs like Teays Valley, Cross Lanes, St Albans, and Hurricane (Her-eh-can) eventually becoming the Huntington suburbs of Barboursville, Ona, and Milton. All along US-60/I-64.
I wonder which state capital metro areas are the largest in the country, after Atlanta, Phoenix, and Boston. Also, when it comes to the reliability of city limit populations at gauging the true size of a city, there was an episode of 60 Minutes where the mayors of Mesa, Atlanta, and New Orleans, were all interviewed about how they managed their cities, and it was noted that of the 3, Mesa had the largest population. Also, are you planning on doing a state visit west of the Rockies any time in the near future?
I've been to all three, Atlanta is by far the most sprawling and probably the largest physically, but Phoenix feels much larger imo. Boston is pretty well self contained and has the smallest population of the 3
Mesa is a dense suburban built city, Western Metro areas are largely grided with small home lots it the desert people aren't going really care about having a larger yard. Even though it maybe dense on paper if you see it's very suburbia. Atlanta situation is near the opposite, Atlanta has small city limit compared to it's peers, Dallas, Houston, LA, Pheonix 350 to 600 sq mi Not only that but it's location in piedmont the region is basically forested rolling hills with creeks. Making it impossible to build a grid, So in Metro Atlanta you have more forested gaps etc. plus some want larger yards because of the environment. What happening is Atlanta core is more dense but outer neighborhoods have large yards. Some of the inner suburbs are denser neighborhoods then outer city proper neighborhoods. You can overtly tell Atlanta size over Pheonix. Central Atlanta is more urban then Pheonix, Atlanta Downtown/midtown is overtly bigger than Pheonix. Than Atlanta has Buckhead Business district and with in the inner suburbs Sandy spring and Cumberland/Vinngs would more Business districts. this just with in 170 sq mi, watch a Atlanta and Pheonix drone video. You can tell Atlanta is a million more people. City limit population in general population largely misleading.
I watched both videos on state capitals I believe somehow you left out the capital of South Carolina which I believe it could be a case where Columbia and Charleston are neck to neck but the upstate cities Greenville Spartanburg Anderson area are fast growing as well but are smaller cities but making a spread out metro area in the piedmont region you could of kind of compare to North Carolina cities of Raleigh Durham Chapel Hill area or Winston Salem Greensboro area but just a smaller scale.
Salt Lake City wasn't intended to be the capital initially. Travel to the middle part of the state, and you will find the oldest federal building in Utah. The former territorial capital of Utah was Fillmore. However, because Salt Lake City became the crossroads of the West, the capital was moved from Fillmore to Salt Lake.
Eventually the metro area will grow south of Nephi. Also, I feel like the original plan for Fillmore was just a federal push to keep the Mormons from having too much influence in Salt Lake City originally lol
Just like Missouri. Saint Charles was originally the capital of MO. In fact, the old state capital is still standing on Historic Main Street right near where Lewis & Clark started their exhibition.
St. Paul, MN should be on here as it shares a metropolitan area with Minneapolis the largest. They share a nice long border with each other, share public transit both light rail and a major airport, they share a baseball team, and so much more. Inseparable.
This video seems super arbitrary and i think its solely based off of biggest city. Like wikipedia list of largest city, and then figure about 30 seconds worth of filler for each. Very little effort was put into this. What makes a city alpha anyway? Just amount of people?
@@mjrt34 no it doesn’t at all that’s not arbitrary you don’t know what that word means. You are just upset that he doesn’t include your precious little metros. Clearly you didn’t watch the video because he also talks about culture and a few other things but to you that’s arbitrary because he doesn’t include five other cities randomly picked by some Rando on the Internet as part of the city because reasons. Metro are the most arbitrary thing on this planet this video isn’t it’s plainly obvious what’s it’s talking about it’s only a Wikipedia list because you can’t understand basic concepts. Just because your favorite cities weren’t picked doesn’t make it arbitrary. These are about cities that are the biggest in their state, and also have economic and cultural impacts. How you don’t understand such a basic concept and think it’s just a Wikipedia filler video means you put very little effort into your response and your brain process.
I've been to Meridian, ID a couple times, and honestly, it hardly feels like a city in its own right. If you look at a satellite image of the city with the city boundaries highlighted, pretty much all you'll find is single family residential and small pockets of commercial districts, and that's it. It's a bedroom community more than anything else. Boise will still reign supreme here in Idaho, much to the chagrin of the folks in the north and especially east of the state.
Having moved out of Idaho in 1991, the changes in Meridian, Eagle, and Nampa are phenomenal. Tons of farmland is now housing. This is all due to geography: It's much simpler to convert farmland into housing than hills, and people want to live where there are good roads to get places. For Boise, this means pushing west. It could grow south, but there aren't good roads to encourage that.
Back in the day, when I was living in New England, I got to live in several parts of Vermont. I got to visit all throughout Vermont, I got to visit Western Mass every now and then. Only once did I get to visit Boston though, and not for too long. New Hampshire also once or twice, and also not for long. The Boston area is without doubt the epicenter of New England itself. But in the Western areas of New England, both NYC and Montreal are epicenters as well. I remember feeling their presence at least as strongly as that of Boston, and even a lot stronger depending on the location. Regarding for example the Burlington area: I recall hearing some people talk about it as if it were a distant suburb of Montreal. Even though I can't say that I agree, I gotta admit that I can see why they would say that. It's a much shorter drive or bus ride, for example, to go from Burlington to Montreal than to go from Burlington to Boston. Wow it's really been a long time since I lived over there...
Being from Burlington myself, yes and yes. From the early days of waterborne trade right up to the opening of I-89 in the late '60s, it and the rest of western Vermont tended to trade up Lake Champlain to Montreal and down it and the Hudson River to Albany and NYC, while eastern Vermont traded down the Connecticut River to Boston.
cleveland’s metro area only contains 4 counties compared to the 8 or 10 counties the other metros of ohio contain. cleveland’s entire combined metro area with akron directly south of it is 17th biggest in the country. so therefore, cleveland is by far the biggest in ohio in terms of urban area population
Cincinnati/dayton is slightly bigger than Cleveland/akron/canton but Cincinnati and dayton are more culturally separate and dont commute as much between the two cities even though theres suburbs and small cities connecting them.
I was just in Cleveland for the eclipse last April , and the one thing I noticed is how friendly almost everybody was. I live in Orlando and I can tell you that the opposite is true. Generally speaking. So if Cleveland is a has-been city, then whatever is left over certainly makes it a nice place to visit.
@@southfieldtrill9690 that’s why whenever anyone thinks of Ohio they think of Cleveland right lol “has been city” yet it’s still the most well known and prominent city in ohio
16:06 as someone who's lived in RI for their entire adult life, I appreciate your very "local" pronunciation of Warwick - it's rare to hear any Rhode Islander fully pronounce the second "w." When I first moved here, it took a little getting used to to understand what the hell people were referring to when they say "Warrick" or "Wark" 😅
My mom moved to Meridian when it had 10k people and I was 5. This city grows so fast if you haven't seen a part of it for 5 years and go there sure enough you will see new construction. in the last 7 years Meridian started getting it first multistory buildings.
Jackson metro IS the focal point of the state, but Gulfport metro SHOULD be the focal point of the state. I would choose Gulfport over Jackson any day of the week.
It's commonly accepted that the growth of northwest Arkansas has been closely tied to the growth of Walmart. There is another RUclips video that has documented how some companies are collocating their corporate campuses to Bentonville
I notice how South Carolina wasn't mentioned in this video or the beta state capitals video But Charleston is the largest city in South Carolina but formally the largest city was the state capital of Columbia
The biggest problem in Massachusetts is for all purposes except funding the city’s that border Bostons citizens are considered Bostonians ,and we have to many colleges in the city ,college students in Boston shouldn’t be working thus they are takeing important room away from what could be sky scrapers and housing . Each big school takes up dozens of entire blocks of space ,sure they do have regular workers such as sanitation people and professors but the amount of space they need to do their work compared to just about any other field is much lower .this means a larger amount of people need to be driveing into work compared to people who could live and work within the city .outside of our train system there is no government sponsored busses for getting into the city so areas where the train extends to are in essence considered boston (the mbta bus system is a joke in comparison to much smaller towns and city’s with more infrastructure outside of Massachusetts) in most cases it’s faster and more efficient to use the train to get into the city from just about any time of day and any point which is nice but there’s not really an option for parking in most of these past 5 am so you need to live walking distance to the train station .this leads to towns 2-3 towns over all considering themselves Bostonians and ending up useing Boston’s infrastructure on a weekly to monthly basis
Now we just need a video for the Canadian provinces ALPHA= Ontario, Manitoba, Nova Scotia, NF&L, PEI, NWT, Yukon BETA= Québec, BC, New Brunswick EH~= Alberta, Saskatchewan, Nunavut
Atlanta also has the biggest airport in the country, further lending to its popularity and attractiveness. Correction: biggest in the WORLD in terms of passenger movement
Regarding IA, the state traditionally has the first caucus which is scheduled 1/15/24 for the next election cycle. NH traditionally has the first primary. The next NH primary will happen 1/23/24.
Being from Memphis, it was sad to see Nashville overtake it in both population and status. In hindsight, it was always inevitable, though. Nashville consolidated with Davidson County, making it more cohesive. Memphis got bogged down in back-and-forth racial power dynamics, extreme white flight, and a perennial crime problem, real and perceived. Whereas Nashville's Black population was smaller, thus less toxic political jockeying and more educated than Memphis's. While Nashville, of course, had standard issue American racial issues, including early Civil Rights era sit-ins, which were settled relatively quickly in comparison to other hotbeds. During segregation, Nashville had more Black colleges (Tennessee State, Meharry, and Fisk) than high schools (Pearl, Cameron). Memphis was a much more industrial and agricultural city than Nashville, so when deindustrialization occurred in the US and cotton waned, the effects hit Memphis harder. You mentioned that Memphis has barely grown in population since the 1970 census, but it is even worse considering the city covers 50% more area than it did back then. Much of the metro area consists of two other states (principally Mississippi), which doesn't help either. If things stay as they are, cities like Clarksville, Murfreesboro, Chattanooga, Knoxville, and maybe even Jackson will overtake Memphis in population someday.
After leaving Jackson to study at memphis, staying for a few years after for work, and moving back to Jackson for the time being I don’t see Jackson growing passed memphis unless there is extreme population decline in memphis. Knoxville I don’t see being larger than Memphis, but I could see Chattanooga over taking it in the next 100 years.
13:30 i've always laughed that, for most of my life, i navigated using wheeling, west virginia. i think it's because we never had casinos in ohio, and wheeling was the closest option for most of the state.
Mesa, Arizona is the suburb on steroids. With 504,000 people, it’s larger than Saint Louis or Pittsburgh. Of course much Mesa’s population are October through April residents, many of whom live in RV parks with ample amenities.
Cleveland sucks. Always has, always will. I was born and raised in NE Ohio and spent 20 years as an adult living there. Glad I moved to another part of the state and hope I never have to live there again.
@southfieldtrill9690 people have their own opinion but to me cleveland has a more unique feel than columbus cleveland actually feels like a big city they have the lake with plenty beaches, great parks and even a metro train their downtown is unique and even university circle and ohio city sort of feel like 2 separate downtown areas columbus is not bad to me tho cleveland is easily better
2023 census estimates suggest that Fayetteville has broken the 100k mark and is now very close to half the size of Little Rock. Springdale is on track to surpass Fort Smith very soon. Continuing present trends, Fort Smith will be 4th in the 2030 census, with Jonesboro closing. Fort Smith is growing, but more in line with the average growth of the entire state rather than at the pace of the faster growing areas.
There's this place called "Tocabe" that was really good and there was a pretty good Thai place in Golden. I will say that the steak and chicken at the restaurants around there left a lot to be desired. Zero seasoning at most of the restaurants. We're not used to that coming from the South.
Charleston being the most dominant city in WV is a little misleading if you look at population alone. I agree that within the city limits of Charleston and Huntington there are more people, I think a more accurate statement would be that there is no dominant city in WV. My reasoning goes as follows: Huntington and Charleston's populations are declining, and Morgantown's is growing, Huntington and Charleston's city limits are far larger than Morgantown's, and there are more smaller towns surrounding Morgantown hold larger populations but aren't included in the overall population count. such as star city, Westover, Granville, Cheat lake... the list goes on. also the metro population of Morgantown only includes Monongalia county and Preston county (a very rural county at that). while the surrounding areas of Huntington and Charleston's metros of 8, and 3 respectively. mon county is more dense than both of Kanawha and Cabell county. And Morgantown holds WVU which adds 25,000 to the population. I don't disagree that there are more people within the city limits and the selected metropolitan counties, but I feel as if dominant is not the correct way to describe Charleston to the state of WV.
I agree. Other states who don’t have dominant cities: NJ doesn’t really have a dominant city because most of the large cities are suburbs of either Philly or NYC. Ohio doesn’t really have a dominant city because the metros are really close in size and Cleveland is declining at a rapid rate. North Carolina doesn’t really have a dominant city because its largest cities are so close to each other.
Aren’t there a couple of counties in northeastern WV that are part of the DC metro? Is it possible they may surpass the Charleston and Huntington metros?
@@Gatorsfan601 you’re thinking of Berkeley county in the eastern panhandle which is a suburb of DC. That is a very populous county comparable to monongalia (Morgantown) and Kanawha co(Charleston)
Boise and Meridian are full. Don’t move here! I remember when Boise only had 60,000 people and Meridian was a dairy farm town. And my home town only had 500 people in the area. I kind of miss the days when everyone in town knew everyone else.
Columbus has only recently eclipsed both Cincinnati and Cleveland after a century and half of being the third and even fourth largest city in the state. a huge amount of that is thanks to the death of the steel industry in the Cleveland area along with shipping on the two rivers near Cincinnati, with people flocking to the capital for jobs and cheaper living than either city
Unless you’ve lived there, I don’t think you can appreciate jus how much Providence is Rhode Island and vice versa. You covered a lot of states where the alpha capital is unlikely to be overthrown anytime soon. I’d argue it’s impossible for Providence to be overthrown.
Regarding the ridiculously rapid growth of Meridian, Idaho, you have to know that it wasn't that long ago that Meridian was a forgetable little town with lots of farmland, not even on the top ten list of Idaho cities and now it is challenging Boise for the title of largest Idaho city. And yet, despite its growing population, Meridian is nearly 100% a suburb of Boise. This causes a strange traffic pattern as every morning around 7:00 a.m. nearly everyone leaves their homes in Meridian to drive east to work in Boise and between about 3:p.m. and 6 p.m. nearly everyone leaves their work in Boise to drive west to their homes in Meridian. In the morning, the east bound freeway is jammed while the west bound is empty but in the evening it is reversed. Btw Providence is Rhode Island. What else is in Rhode Island besides Providence? And as other people have pointed out, Cheyenne is pronounced Shy-ann
Not so fast on declaring Cheyenne in no danger of loosing its #1 position. Casper is not that far behind. All it takes is a major Company relocating to Casper and you've got a regime change
For Ohio, it seems like the 3 C cities are kind of equal and none of them feel like an alpha above the rest but Columbus's growth would probably make them the alpha capital of Ohio in the future. And for Cheyenne Wyoming, I believe it's pronounced Shy-anne.
Ah yes my geography fix and I’m guessing the reason Austin isn’t on this one because Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio exist and all have larger cities and metros
Boise has always been the largest population center between Salt Lake City and Portland, so despite being only about 100,000 people in the 80s, it had most of the advantages of much larger cities. Now the area is vastly more populated, and could hit a million people before too much longer, which is what I remember as being the population of the entire state when I was a kid.
The only one that surprised me was West Virginia. The only city that comes to mind when you mention WV (and the only one I've ever been to, after growing up near Pittsburgh) is Morgantown. To a lesser extent, I was unsure about Ohio -- I did guess Columbus once I thought about it, but honestly if you'd told me Cleveland or Cincinnati dominated the state, I would have believed you. For those of us in western Pennsylvania, the most important place in OH was Sandusky, where Cedar Point is, although I did once go to Cleveland for a Steelers-Browns game. I've never been to Columbus.
Cleveland feels like the largest city because it is by far. The urban area of Cleveland and Akron is well over 3 million people and that’s not including Canton, which the US census does include. Cincinnati is a distant second in Ohio . some people try to include Dayton. In the Cincinnati metro, which the US census does not for a variety of reasons. The Columbus metro/urban area comes in a close third behind Cincinnati.
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Cayenne pepper VS Cheyenne state capital, I just had to. The OCD wouldn't let it slide. Great video though, thank you!
Thanks, I was going to take the snarky route and say, "George Strait is holding on line two and would like a word when you have a moment." 😉
Although, I have to wonder if Mike did it intentionally because he also kinda butchered the name of Massachusetts' state capital.
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As a Wyomingite, that broke my heart. 😢 It's shy-ann
Wyoming might be last, but it's SPICY!
Hearing Cheyenne pronounced that way caused physical pain
Thanks for pointing out to “not let the city population fool you.” Metro area is almost always a more accurate depiction of the city’s “bigness.”
How they aren’t the city, though they’re multiple cities put together in an arbitrary shaped drawn on a map based on feelings
In the end, the metropolitan population and income is what matters.
Jacksonville, Florida merged with Duval County. Is it really bigger than Miami and Tampa? Populations within the city limits are irrelevant. Largest city means nothing.
Cheyenne is pronounced as Shy-Ann. It is named after a Native American Tribe.
It is incredibly bigoted and ignorant to keep saying the name like that.
@@josephchisholm5083 how is being linguistically accurate is bigoted crybaby 😂
@@josephchisholm5083is there a reason?
Did you know that there is a town in North Dakota named Sheyenne? There isn't much to it. It's near the Sheyenne River. It is the longest river without a tributary in North America.
I thought it was named after the 50's / 60's T.V. Western .
South Carolinians when they realize their state wasn't mentioned in either video: 👁👄👁
Seriously?!? Having watched both videos, I just felt like "something" was missing. It was South Carolina! Wow, I'd be pissed if he had missed my state. I think Mileage Mike owes you a video all to yourself! (Maybe he thought you seceded or something.)
I’m glad to know I’m not crazy haha
I mean the guy who made both videos IS from North Carolina, could be something bout that lol
Regarding Ohio, it depends on the definition of metro areas. If you use COMBINED Metropolitan Statistical Area (CSA), Cleveland is by far the largest in Ohio, ranking #17 in the US at 3.7 million. That's why Cleveland feels like the largest metro area in Ohio. Columbus CSA comes in at #28 and Cincinnati at #33. 14:42
No metros
Thank you
@@zach2382we talking about metro
Thats because yall include Cleveland/akron/canton. If it was Cincinnati/dayton it would be larger than northeast ohio and around 15th in the nation.
Ohio- incorporated Columbus has the largest population in Ohio, but its metro population is smaller than metro Cincinnati. When nearby Akron and Canton are included in the Cleveland metro area , this area has a much larger population than Columbus. Columbus is the seat of state government , but it does not dominate the state Cultural attractions, professional sports, entertainment assets, historic architecture and neighborhoods of Columbus are at a significantly lower level than the other metro areas.
As a Georgian, you hit the nail on the head about Atlanta. All of the economic opportunity is here. Speaking as someone who moved here from a small city in south Georgia.
Ohio’s three big cities are pretty interchangeable depending on how you look at them. Cincinnati has the biggest metro area, Cleveland has the largest combined statistical area, and Columbus is the largest individual city in the state having nearly three times as many people as Cleveland.
Traveling for work over the past 10 years I've been to all 3 over 100 times each and even without including akron area cleveland by far feels like the biggest metro
It’s also like this in many European countries regarding countries’ capital cities. I recently visited Greece and they were explaining how half of the population lives around Athens. The guide on our tour even went so far as to compare it to a U.S. state.
That wouldn’t be surprising considering how many city states existed throughout Greece’s history.
As far as for Ohio you can’t call Columbus the Alpha City of the State as you pointed out through statistics and had a poll it was too close to call. Heck you can make another video talking about Ohio being the only state in where 3 of its largest metros are almost the same population.
Yes you can
i think columbus is the most likeable out of the three which is why people chose it
@@jjorjojo Columbus is so much more boring than Cincy and Cleveland though
@@NicksDynasty True. I mean that it has the least amount of problems and is growing the fastest.
@@jjorjojoLMAO I go to school in Columbus and it is, by far, the least likable city I have ever visited. I’ve been to Cincy, Cleveland, Chicago, Dayton, Baton Rouge, New Orleans, Orlando, Atlanta, Seattle, Indianapolis, DC, St Louis, Louisville, Phoenix, Las Vegas, and many more. I would rather spend the rest of my life in any of those other cities than spend another day in Columbus after I graduate. It’s a flat, cultureless, cold, depressing waste of concrete
I as a resident of Bentonville Arkansas can say that majority of growth in our area can almost always be traced back to the Waltons. But I do recommend northwest Arkansas because of slight bias and also because of the natural beauty around us in the Ozark mountains, Arkansas got the nickname of “The Natural State” for good reasons. Also even though Walmart has been based here in Bentonville since it’s creation, it’s still weird that their actual headquarters is two blocks away from my house.
You're on my list of places to visit, primairly for the Ozarks and natural beauty.
Minor correction: Providence is not the home of Rhode Island's flagship university, the U. of R.I. is is Kingston, though Providence does have the better-known Brown University.
Rams > Friars 😅
Brown university is rh's flagship
@@jjorjojo Brown is better known, being an Ivy, but as a private university it cannot be a flagship
@@R32R38 thats silly... the older university should win 🙂
Cheyenne = SHY-ann, not KY-ann.
Last year, my wife and I went to Des Moines Iowa for our anniversary weekend. I was surprised by how many things there are to do around the city
I think that calling the Cincinnati metro area the largest in Ohio is flawed since a large portion of the Cincinnati suburbs are in Kentucky. The Cincinnati metro area is the largest, but Metro Cleveland is Ohio’s largest metro area.
Not to mention the Cincinnati Metro is a Tri-State Metro Area, as some of its suburbs are in Southeast Indiana.
Cincinnati is #1!
Metros don’t necessarily follow state boundaries. Cincinnati is the largest according to the Cenus bureau.
@@ryanearles2024wrong
@@juliogarcia9295 Actually, I'm not. Metro Cincy does cover 3 Counties in Extreme Southeastern Indiana (Dearborn, Franklin, and Ohio Counties) along with 5 counties in Southwestern Ohio (Hamilton, Warren, Clermont, Brown and Butler Counties) and 7 counties in Northern Kentucky (Boone, Bracken, Campbell, Gallatin, Grant and Kenton Counties).
Clevelander, loved the Ohio dissection!
I enjoy your videos Mileage Mike. I think Casper passed Cheyenne as the largest city in Wyoming in one of the previous censuses - maybe 1990 or 2000. But Cheyenne went back in the lead the next census.
Casper has never surpassed cheyenne it’s gotten close but now Cheyenne is booming and Casper is growing much slower
Yeah Boston is bordered by like 20 other other cities and it's tough sometimes to tell if you've crossed into (or through) another city when you travel down a road.
The history of which towns got swallowed up by Boston and which remained independent is a fascinating study in wealth, power and racism. Not quite as interesting as LA, but that’s not a capital city.
Charleston West Virginia is a cool little city. Visit Taylor’s Books in the downtown area. There is a decent pizza place and good Thai restaurant from the bookstore within a short walk as well.
I'll have to check it out.
Charleston is such a cute little city; Chow Thai and Pies&Pints are excellent! Also recommend Karubee's Jamaican. The neighborhood around the Mound in South Charleston is also pretty cool. In my experience, Charleston and Huntington have been more successful than many small cities with declining populations at keeping some activity in the downtown and core city areas. Huntington is actually seeing a decent amount of investment at the moment, theres been lots of new construction and infrastructure repairs just in the last year or 2.
I used to drive from East point to Sandy springs every day for work, the traffic in Atlanta is no joke.
I live in Douglas County and went to school at Georgia Tech in Midtown Atlanta. I would go to the school gym to work out early in the morning, then go to class so I could avoid the morning traffic. I made sure to leave immediately after my last class at 3 pm to avoid the afternoon traffic. If not, a 35-minute drive would end up taking well over an hour. I also tried to avoid the I-75 and I-285 at all cost by taking the backroads or the streets to the I-20. Atlanta traffic is about as bad as D.C. traffic.
The interesting thing about Utah is that by city proper, west valley and West Jordan are the 2nd and 3rd biggest cities. But based off Metro Provo and Ogden are the 2nd and 3rd largest cities
Love your content mike
Excellent work Mike!
Thank you for this video i was hust watching your other ones 🔥🔥
as a hoosier, I can confirm that Indianapolis and its surrounding counties alone, even Marion and Hamilton county alone (Marion has around 980,000 people, Hamilton has 230,000) has more population than the entire state of South Dakota.
Cincinnati is called the Queen City-it can do whatever it wants even though the power rests in Columbus
Because it’s in 3 different states
Charlotte is called the Queen City. Any one can say anything
Just turned the bell on. Love ya content 🩸
Good breakdown on Iowa. Kudos for pronouncing Des Moines correctly!
I don't think Des Moines qualifies. It's not large enough and it's media and politics don't dominate the state like other capitals do. You have the Quad Cities, Omaha, are about the same size with their own media/DMA completely seperate. Not to mention IowaCity/Cedar Rapids DMA. The 3 major state Universities are not located in DesMoines. Major transportation arteries (both rivers, major rail routes, airports and even interstate freeways are dispersed throughout the state.
Oh yeah ...... he can pronounce "Des Moines" correctly ..... but he can't manage to say "Cheyenne"?? Jeez...... 😒👎
@@papaechozulu3737 it’s the most populated city in its state. That’s the video.
@@papaechozulu3737 Omaha is in Nebraska, in case you didn't know that, as well as only half of the Quad cities are in Iowa.
Not sure if you even understand what the video was about.
The biggest thing with Iowa is it is definitely divided by east and west, as neither side, even Des Moines don't really think about the other side existing or significant.
Even though Jackson’s metro is safe, I don’t think the city itself will be largest much longer if things don’t get turned around within the next 25-30 years. Jackson’s population is dropping like a rock. Southaven is the third largest, but growing fast than second-place Gulfport.
I've lived in Gulfport and Long Beach before I moved to Florida in 2019 for school, but before I moved out, I wanted to see how the colleges were in Jackson. Let me tell you, Jackson is one of the worst cities I have ever seen. Potholes and abandoned buildings everywhere, and as our state capital, I was so embarassed and pissed off of how the capital represented Mississippi's ideals. I wasn't surprised when I heard about the water situation in Jackson.
@@Crocos1 As a Jackson resident, I can’t really dispute this. I hope we don’t become as bad as Gary, IN or Flint, MI, but we’re heading in that direction.
@@Gatorsfan601 I really wish the best of luck to you. Hopefully the state government has been helping you all out. I heard they intervened, but I don't know to what extent.
Jackson, a city hated by the state government, even though it is the home of the state government.
Being here from OKC I've been waiting to hear you talk about OK. Even if it was for less than 5 minutes lol. You made some really interesting points about OK. Ironically, today 12/12/23, OKC voters are voting on wether or not to build a new arena to keep our NBA team in OKC to at least 2050. It will be interesting to see how it goes since it seems pretty split down the middle.
I swear if OKC votes no, I'll be so pissed
So outside of I assume not wanting to pay for the arena, are there any other reasons why the vote would swing to “no”? I don’t live in the state, I’m just curious.
We passed it🙂
I’ve lived in Ohio my whole life, in the southeast, Columbus, Dayton, and Cincinnati. Almost EVERYONE I know is moving to Columbus, including me later this year. Columbus is booming and industries are taking notice, making it boom even more.
Someone who actually knows what they're talking about 👍💯
I've lived near Columbus my whole life so far and so has my family, particularly my paternal lineage, for abt 100 years. When family move away, even as far as California, they always come back eventually. Every time I've been down there, particularly for local music shows, it always feels so alive and I doubt that'll ever change. Even if I myself plan to move to upstate NY later, I can see myself eventually coming back to Columbus just as my family has time and time again.
shhh. we don’t need home prices to get even higher.
Milage Mike, you are awesome! ❤🎉 . Thanks for all this great information brother.
You make some great videos. Really been enjoying them!
Fun fact: the Providence metro population is greater than the population of the whole state of Rhode Island
2:44 Northeast Arkansas is also a good place to live in Arkansas. I figured I’d mention it since in every single video that brings up Arkansas doesn’t bring it up.
"Where you sill find all of Indiana's attractions" Both of its theme parks are in the middle of nowhere. Indiana Beach is closer to Lafayette than Indy (you could go there on a weekend from Indy-but you would be insane to commute 90mins-2hrs from Indy to work there) and Holiday World is closer to Evansville, almost halfway between Evansville and Louisville and the park does provide a shuttle from Evansville to Santa Claus to support employment and now has a dorm structure for people from outside the Evansville metro (only one building at the time of this video's production)
I visited the OKC area for a week and was definitely impressed with their downtown area. It kind of reminds me of Austin before it became overpopulated. I would highly encourage you to spend a week there and report back. 😁
West Virginia is the most replayed segment in the video. Not sure why that is, but it's pretty interesting since I lived in Charleston for a couple of years.
Speaking of, the dynamic between Charleston and Huntington is noteworthy. The suburbs sort of blend together. Part of this is because of the topography. Most population centers in West Virginia spring up in valleys because that's the majority of flat land in the state. So, for Charleston you have the Elk River to the north, with suburbs like Mink Shoals and Elkview; Kanawha River upstream to the east, with suburbs like Marmet and Belle. Then, you have this valley to the west that eventually connects to Huntington. And there you have suburbs like Teays Valley, Cross Lanes, St Albans, and Hurricane (Her-eh-can) eventually becoming the Huntington suburbs of Barboursville, Ona, and Milton. All along US-60/I-64.
It’s the most replayed probably because you’re the one that replayed over and over again
I wonder which state capital metro areas are the largest in the country, after Atlanta, Phoenix, and Boston.
Also, when it comes to the reliability of city limit populations at gauging the true size of a city, there was an episode of 60 Minutes where the mayors of Mesa, Atlanta, and New Orleans, were all interviewed about how they managed their cities, and it was noted that of the 3, Mesa had the largest population.
Also, are you planning on doing a state visit west of the Rockies any time in the near future?
I’d go with Boston out of those 3. Phoenix hardly feels like a city.
I'll be traveling around the Western states in 2024
I've been to all three, Atlanta is by far the most sprawling and probably the largest physically, but Phoenix feels much larger imo. Boston is pretty well self contained and has the smallest population of the 3
Since you after Atlanta, Phoenix and Boston, I’d go with either Austin, Denver or Nashville.
Mesa is a dense suburban built city, Western Metro areas are largely grided with small home lots it the desert people aren't going really care about having a larger yard. Even though it maybe dense on paper if you see it's very suburbia.
Atlanta situation is near the opposite, Atlanta has small city limit compared to it's peers, Dallas, Houston, LA, Pheonix 350 to 600 sq mi Not only that but it's location in piedmont the region is basically forested rolling hills with creeks. Making it impossible to build a grid, So in Metro Atlanta you have more forested gaps etc. plus some want larger yards because of the environment. What happening is Atlanta core is more dense but outer neighborhoods have large yards. Some of the inner suburbs are denser neighborhoods then outer city proper neighborhoods.
You can overtly tell Atlanta size over Pheonix. Central Atlanta is more urban then Pheonix, Atlanta Downtown/midtown is overtly bigger than Pheonix. Than Atlanta has Buckhead Business district and with in the inner suburbs Sandy spring and Cumberland/Vinngs would more Business districts. this just with in 170 sq mi, watch a Atlanta and Pheonix drone video. You can tell Atlanta is a million more people.
City limit population in general population largely misleading.
I watched both videos on state capitals I believe somehow you left out the capital of South Carolina which I believe it could be a case where Columbia and Charleston are neck to neck but the upstate cities Greenville Spartanburg Anderson area are fast growing as well but are smaller cities but making a spread out metro area in the piedmont region you could of kind of compare to North Carolina cities of Raleigh Durham Chapel Hill area or Winston Salem Greensboro area but just a smaller scale.
Yep he definitely left South Carolina out.
Salt Lake City wasn't intended to be the capital initially. Travel to the middle part of the state, and you will find the oldest federal building in Utah. The former territorial capital of Utah was Fillmore. However, because Salt Lake City became the crossroads of the West, the capital was moved from Fillmore to Salt Lake.
Eventually the metro area will grow south of Nephi. Also, I feel like the original plan for Fillmore was just a federal push to keep the Mormons from having too much influence in Salt Lake City originally lol
Just like Missouri. Saint Charles was originally the capital of MO. In fact, the old state capital is still standing on Historic Main Street right near where Lewis & Clark started their exhibition.
St. Paul, MN should be on here as it shares a metropolitan area with Minneapolis the largest. They share a nice long border with each other, share public transit both light rail and a major airport, they share a baseball team, and so much more. Inseparable.
No
This video seems super arbitrary and i think its solely based off of biggest city. Like wikipedia list of largest city, and then figure about 30 seconds worth of filler for each. Very little effort was put into this. What makes a city alpha anyway? Just amount of people?
@@mjrt34 no it doesn’t at all that’s not arbitrary you don’t know what that word means. You are just upset that he doesn’t include your precious little metros. Clearly you didn’t watch the video because he also talks about culture and a few other things but to you that’s arbitrary because he doesn’t include five other cities randomly picked by some Rando on the Internet as part of the city because reasons. Metro are the most arbitrary thing on this planet this video isn’t it’s plainly obvious what’s it’s talking about it’s only a Wikipedia list because you can’t understand basic concepts. Just because your favorite cities weren’t picked doesn’t make it arbitrary. These are about cities that are the biggest in their state, and also have economic and cultural impacts. How you don’t understand such a basic concept and think it’s just a Wikipedia filler video means you put very little effort into your response and your brain process.
@@mjrt34 it’s based on capital cities. How are you that not capable of understanding.
@@zach2382 yes clearly
Cheyenne and Denver will eventually grow into each other. Both are growing, and I don't see it slowing down anytime soon.
I've been to Meridian, ID a couple times, and honestly, it hardly feels like a city in its own right. If you look at a satellite image of the city with the city boundaries highlighted, pretty much all you'll find is single family residential and small pockets of commercial districts, and that's it. It's a bedroom community more than anything else. Boise will still reign supreme here in Idaho, much to the chagrin of the folks in the north and especially east of the state.
Having moved out of Idaho in 1991, the changes in Meridian, Eagle, and Nampa are phenomenal. Tons of farmland is now housing. This is all due to geography: It's much simpler to convert farmland into housing than hills, and people want to live where there are good roads to get places. For Boise, this means pushing west. It could grow south, but there aren't good roads to encourage that.
9:21 That B roll is from Cedar Rapids
Props for pronouncing Worcester correctly!
The business and employment growth in the Morgantown WV has been very good. Traditional jobs being replaced by quality jobs has been a welcome change.
Back in the day, when I was living in New England, I got to live in several parts of Vermont. I got to visit all throughout Vermont, I got to visit Western Mass every now and then. Only once did I get to visit Boston though, and not for too long. New Hampshire also once or twice, and also not for long.
The Boston area is without doubt the epicenter of New England itself. But in the Western areas of New England, both NYC and Montreal are epicenters as well. I remember feeling their presence at least as strongly as that of Boston, and even a lot stronger depending on the location.
Regarding for example the Burlington area: I recall hearing some people talk about it as if it were a distant suburb of Montreal. Even though I can't say that I agree, I gotta admit that I can see why they would say that. It's a much shorter drive or bus ride, for example, to go from Burlington to Montreal than to go from Burlington to Boston.
Wow it's really been a long time since I lived over there...
Being from Burlington myself, yes and yes. From the early days of waterborne trade right up to the opening of I-89 in the late '60s, it and the rest of western Vermont tended to trade up Lake Champlain to Montreal and down it and the Hudson River to Albany and NYC, while eastern Vermont traded down the Connecticut River to Boston.
I find your videos very interesting and informative. Please keep it up!
Thanks
cleveland’s metro area only contains 4 counties compared to the 8 or 10 counties the other metros of ohio contain. cleveland’s entire combined metro area with akron directly south of it is 17th biggest in the country. so therefore, cleveland is by far the biggest in ohio in terms of urban area population
Cincinnati/dayton is slightly bigger than Cleveland/akron/canton but Cincinnati and dayton are more culturally separate and dont commute as much between the two cities even though theres suburbs and small cities connecting them.
@@kevingeezy5176 regardless, this guy calling columbus the biggest/alpha city in ohio is simply not true lol
@@whywhere1768It is true Cleveland is a has been city🤷
I was just in Cleveland for the eclipse last April , and the one thing I noticed is how friendly almost everybody was. I live in Orlando and I can tell you that the opposite is true. Generally speaking. So if Cleveland is a has-been city, then whatever is left over certainly makes it a nice place to visit.
@@southfieldtrill9690 that’s why whenever anyone thinks of Ohio they think of Cleveland right lol “has been city” yet it’s still the most well known and prominent city in ohio
I’m from Indiana, but Northwest. This meant I was basically from Illinois, as Chicago is right there.
16:06 as someone who's lived in RI for their entire adult life, I appreciate your very "local" pronunciation of Warwick - it's rare to hear any Rhode Islander fully pronounce the second "w." When I first moved here, it took a little getting used to to understand what the hell people were referring to when they say "Warrick" or "Wark" 😅
My mom moved to Meridian when it had 10k people and I was 5. This city grows so fast if you haven't seen a part of it for 5 years and go there sure enough you will see new construction. in the last 7 years Meridian started getting it first multistory buildings.
Jackson metro IS the focal point of the state, but Gulfport metro SHOULD be the focal point of the state. I would choose Gulfport over Jackson any day of the week.
If the beaches were as good as Alabama or Florida, you’d be on to something.
MS coast beaches aren't that great, but it is still the nicest section of MS by far.
As somebody who lives in meridian we are already combined with Boise like the city boarder Is a main road
16:13 - Providence city is home of Providence University, but University of Rhone Island is in another town.
6:18 - Little county government is a New England states thing.
3:21 what is that where is it from it looks good also the wings at 5:42 where's that
Love this channel
Cleveland is a split metro between Cleveland and Akron the combined metro is the largest in the state.
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It's commonly accepted that the growth of northwest Arkansas has been closely tied to the growth of Walmart. There is another RUclips video that has documented how some companies are collocating their corporate campuses to Bentonville
I notice how South Carolina wasn't mentioned in this video or the beta state capitals video
But Charleston is the largest city in South Carolina but formally the largest city was the state capital of Columbia
Yeah I forgot about Charleston passing Columbia on the first video so unfortunately it got left out of the party.
The biggest problem in Massachusetts is for all purposes except funding the city’s that border Bostons citizens are considered Bostonians ,and we have to many colleges in the city ,college students in Boston shouldn’t be working thus they are takeing important room away from what could be sky scrapers and housing . Each big school takes up dozens of entire blocks of space ,sure they do have regular workers such as sanitation people and professors but the amount of space they need to do their work compared to just about any other field is much lower .this means a larger amount of people need to be driveing into work compared to people who could live and work within the city .outside of our train system there is no government sponsored busses for getting into the city so areas where the train extends to are in essence considered boston (the mbta bus system is a joke in comparison to much smaller towns and city’s with more infrastructure outside of Massachusetts) in most cases it’s faster and more efficient to use the train to get into the city from just about any time of day and any point which is nice but there’s not really an option for parking in most of these past 5 am so you need to live walking distance to the train station .this leads to towns 2-3 towns over all considering themselves Bostonians and ending up useing Boston’s infrastructure on a weekly to monthly basis
Your narrating tone kind of sounds like the SoDoSoPa advertisement in South Park
Now we just need a video for the Canadian provinces
ALPHA= Ontario, Manitoba, Nova Scotia, NF&L, PEI, NWT, Yukon
BETA= Québec, BC, New Brunswick
EH~= Alberta, Saskatchewan, Nunavut
Québec
@@vincentng2392 oops
Alberta is the fastest growing province in the country. Everyone is moving to Calgary.
Salt Lake City is densifying pretty rapidly, so there's almost no chance another city in the state catches it anytime soon.
Atlanta also has the biggest airport in the country, further lending to its popularity and attractiveness.
Correction: biggest in the WORLD in terms of passenger movement
Regarding IA, the state traditionally has the first caucus which is scheduled 1/15/24 for the next election cycle. NH traditionally has the first primary. The next NH primary will happen 1/23/24.
Being from Memphis, it was sad to see Nashville overtake it in both population and status. In hindsight, it was always inevitable, though. Nashville consolidated with Davidson County, making it more cohesive. Memphis got bogged down in back-and-forth racial power dynamics, extreme white flight, and a perennial crime problem, real and perceived. Whereas Nashville's Black population was smaller, thus less toxic political jockeying and more educated than Memphis's. While Nashville, of course, had standard issue American racial issues, including early Civil Rights era sit-ins, which were settled relatively quickly in comparison to other hotbeds. During segregation, Nashville had more Black colleges (Tennessee State, Meharry, and Fisk) than high schools (Pearl, Cameron). Memphis was a much more industrial and agricultural city than Nashville, so when deindustrialization occurred in the US and cotton waned, the effects hit Memphis harder.
You mentioned that Memphis has barely grown in population since the 1970 census, but it is even worse considering the city covers 50% more area than it did back then. Much of the metro area consists of two other states (principally Mississippi), which doesn't help either. If things stay as they are, cities like Clarksville, Murfreesboro, Chattanooga, Knoxville, and maybe even Jackson will overtake Memphis in population someday.
After leaving Jackson to study at memphis, staying for a few years after for work, and moving back to Jackson for the time being I don’t see Jackson growing passed memphis unless there is extreme population decline in memphis. Knoxville I don’t see being larger than Memphis, but I could see Chattanooga over taking it in the next 100 years.
Do you think there's a Mississippi River malaise component to it, too? St. Louis and New Orleans also have major issues.
13:30 i've always laughed that, for most of my life, i navigated using wheeling, west virginia. i think it's because we never had casinos in ohio, and wheeling was the closest option for most of the state.
I like how sc is not on both videos 💀💀💀
Mesa, Arizona is the suburb on steroids. With 504,000 people, it’s larger than Saint Louis or Pittsburgh. Of course much Mesa’s population are October through April residents, many of whom live in RV parks with ample amenities.
The interesting thing about Indianapolis is that it is a planned city, the kind that usually ends up being a Beta Capitol.
You must be from Gary 😂
I had no idea Meridian Idaho had grown that much. Thats wild.
Oh yeah. The school district there has had to open one or two new schools each year for decades.
As a recent addition to the Cleveland-Akron-Canton MSA, I gotta go with Cleveland on this.
Cleveland sucks. Always has, always will. I was born and raised in NE Ohio and spent 20 years as an adult living there. Glad I moved to another part of the state and hope I never have to live there again.
@@philhamilton8731💯 It's a dying city
@philhamilton8731 to me cleveland is by far the best city in ohio I go to all 3 very often for work
@@j317 I guess that's why over 3,500 people than moved to Columbus from Cleveland since 2020.
@southfieldtrill9690 people have their own opinion but to me cleveland has a more unique feel than columbus cleveland actually feels like a big city they have the lake with plenty beaches, great parks and even a metro train their downtown is unique and even university circle and ohio city sort of feel like 2 separate downtown areas columbus is not bad to me tho cleveland is easily better
“You probably never heard of west valley or West Jordan”. I have because I grew up in South Jordan.
Fayetteville, Arkansas is actually the 2nd largest city at 93,949 and not Fort Smith 1:38.
Yes I noticed that. Wondering how he missed that cause all the other stats are correct!
2023 census estimates suggest that Fayetteville has broken the 100k mark and is now very close to half the size of Little Rock. Springdale is on track to surpass Fort Smith very soon. Continuing present trends, Fort Smith will be 4th in the 2030 census, with Jonesboro closing. Fort Smith is growing, but more in line with the average growth of the entire state rather than at the pace of the faster growing areas.
Exactly where did you find good food in Denver?
There's this place called "Tocabe" that was really good and there was a pretty good Thai place in Golden. I will say that the steak and chicken at the restaurants around there left a lot to be desired. Zero seasoning at most of the restaurants. We're not used to that coming from the South.
Charleston being the most dominant city in WV is a little misleading if you look at population alone. I agree that within the city limits of Charleston and Huntington there are more people, I think a more accurate statement would be that there is no dominant city in WV. My reasoning goes as follows: Huntington and Charleston's populations are declining, and Morgantown's is growing, Huntington and Charleston's city limits are far larger than Morgantown's, and there are more smaller towns surrounding Morgantown hold larger populations but aren't included in the overall population count. such as star city, Westover, Granville, Cheat lake... the list goes on. also the metro population of Morgantown only includes Monongalia county and Preston county (a very rural county at that). while the surrounding areas of Huntington and Charleston's metros of 8, and 3 respectively. mon county is more dense than both of Kanawha and Cabell county. And Morgantown holds WVU which adds 25,000 to the population. I don't disagree that there are more people within the city limits and the selected metropolitan counties, but I feel as if dominant is not the correct way to describe Charleston to the state of WV.
I agree.
Other states who don’t have dominant cities:
NJ doesn’t really have a dominant city because most of the large cities are suburbs of either Philly or NYC.
Ohio doesn’t really have a dominant city because the metros are really close in size and Cleveland is declining at a rapid rate.
North Carolina doesn’t really have a dominant city because its largest cities are so close to each other.
Agreed.
Aren’t there a couple of counties in northeastern WV that are part of the DC metro? Is it possible they may surpass the Charleston and Huntington metros?
@@w-joshCharlotte is the dominant city, but if Raleigh’s and Durham’s metros were combined, it would be very close in population to Charlotte’s.
@@Gatorsfan601 you’re thinking of Berkeley county in the eastern panhandle which is a suburb of DC. That is a very populous county comparable to monongalia (Morgantown) and Kanawha co(Charleston)
Boise and Meridian are full. Don’t move here! I remember when Boise only had 60,000 people and Meridian was a dairy farm town. And my home town only had 500 people in the area. I kind of miss the days when everyone in town knew everyone else.
Columbus has only recently eclipsed both Cincinnati and Cleveland after a century and half of being the third and even fourth largest city in the state. a huge amount of that is thanks to the death of the steel industry in the Cleveland area along with shipping on the two rivers near Cincinnati, with people flocking to the capital for jobs and cheaper living than either city
17:35 What in the world is that?
And the grass is overgrown.
Unless you’ve lived there, I don’t think you can appreciate jus how much Providence is Rhode Island and vice versa. You covered a lot of states where the alpha capital is unlikely to be overthrown anytime soon. I’d argue it’s impossible for Providence to be overthrown.
4:12 - What about Savanah population?
No
Regarding the ridiculously rapid growth of Meridian, Idaho, you have to know that it wasn't that long ago that Meridian was a forgetable little town with lots of farmland, not even on the top ten list of Idaho cities and now it is challenging Boise for the title of largest Idaho city. And yet, despite its growing population, Meridian is nearly 100% a suburb of Boise. This causes a strange traffic pattern as every morning around 7:00 a.m. nearly everyone leaves their homes in Meridian to drive east to work in Boise and between about 3:p.m. and 6 p.m. nearly everyone leaves their work in Boise to drive west to their homes in Meridian. In the morning, the east bound freeway is jammed while the west bound is empty but in the evening it is reversed.
Btw Providence is Rhode Island. What else is in Rhode Island besides Providence?
And as other people have pointed out, Cheyenne is pronounced Shy-ann
European here, 2:27 can someone explain please?
Walton family, founders of Walmart, the largest retail store chain in the US. Founded and still headquartered Bentonville, Arkansas
I just can’t believe Worcester has 200k people it always felt so small out there
Not so fast on declaring Cheyenne in no danger of loosing its #1 position. Casper is not that far behind. All it takes is a major Company relocating to Casper and you've got a regime change
You're wrong about Ohio. Columbus is one of several equally powerful regions in the state.
For Ohio, it seems like the 3 C cities are kind of equal and none of them feel like an alpha above the rest but Columbus's growth would probably make them the alpha capital of Ohio in the future.
And for Cheyenne Wyoming, I believe it's pronounced Shy-anne.
Ah yes my geography fix and I’m guessing the reason Austin isn’t on this one because Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio exist and all have larger cities and metros
Wait, Boise has a metro area?
Yeah, it's surprisingly pretty expansive, too. There's been a lot of growth from folks from the West Coast moving there.
Boise has always been the largest population center between Salt Lake City and Portland, so despite being only about 100,000 people in the 80s, it had most of the advantages of much larger cities. Now the area is vastly more populated, and could hit a million people before too much longer, which is what I remember as being the population of the entire state when I was a kid.
12:23 "The suburbs of Memphis and Mississippi are growing rapidly..."
if we didnt have the oklahoma city metroplex or tulsa, we would be like. a kentucky tier state
The only one that surprised me was West Virginia. The only city that comes to mind when you mention WV (and the only one I've ever been to, after growing up near Pittsburgh) is Morgantown. To a lesser extent, I was unsure about Ohio -- I did guess Columbus once I thought about it, but honestly if you'd told me Cleveland or Cincinnati dominated the state, I would have believed you. For those of us in western Pennsylvania, the most important place in OH was Sandusky, where Cedar Point is, although I did once go to Cleveland for a Steelers-Browns game. I've never been to Columbus.
Morgantown never heard of it
I would say Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati all share their kingship over Ohio
Atlanta is gonna merge into Macon and Athens in about 15-20 years and Chattanooga in about 40 years.
Athens is already in the Atlanta CSA
Cleveland feels like the largest city because it is by far. The urban area of Cleveland and Akron is well over 3 million people and that’s not including Canton, which the US census does include. Cincinnati is a distant second in Ohio . some people try to include Dayton. In the Cincinnati metro, which the US census does not for a variety of reasons. The Columbus metro/urban area comes in a close third behind Cincinnati.
Let’s not forget by 2030 the Cincinnati and Dayton metros will be combined sooooo there’s that
Theyve been combined for at least 15+ years now if people are being honest. Cincinnati nor dayton wants to admit they're together is the issue.
Des Moines is very underrated. I've visited there several times - it is one of my favorite small cities in the U.S.
You showed more of downtown Memphis than Nashville! You didn't even show the capital building! What is up with that.