No Fear 8 Ball - Never Miss The Money Ball (Pool Lessons)
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Never Miss The Money Ball again. This video shows you how to train yourself to get past the fear of shooting the EIGHT.
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Been watching your vids for a good while now and I keep wondering what's in the shadow box.
You make it look so easy… lol
That is the first "real" cue I bought myself, in the 80s.(I must be old). It still plays great but it is standard deflection (I'm too used to LD these days) and the shaft and joints are not readily available if I break it. So I keep it on the wall. That cue brings me thousands of memories, as you can imagine. It was made by Players, but the quality was much higher then, verses how most cues in that price range are made today. It cost $200 back in the 80s. I would not sell it for $1,000. Maybe $1,100.
@@FXBilliardslol need that extra 100 to sell😅😂
@@FXBilliards I know a guy who has a players cues he bought it 3yrs ago for like 150 bucks
A few things to unpack here: Many players, especially APA 3s and even 4s, miss the money ball BECAUSE it's the money ball. Muscles tighten up, negative thoughts creep in, and the player sabotages himself. Thinking about position (not complex position, just the natural position to where the cue ball wants to roll) distracts such a player from his auto-sharking. I liken it to times when I was out of stroke, and started thinking about my stroke instead of just letting my subconscious mind take care of the stroke. Just made everything worse. But I played a defensive shot, mostly focused on position, and my stroke straightened itself out! I'm not saying the above will work for every player who gets spooked by the 8 ball, but it can help many.
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Another issue with shooting a black ball in a dark setting, (low light billiard halls or bars) visualizing your fractional aiming point can be an issue for some.
I’ve noticed this on occasion when the eight was along the cushion, the black ball does not stand out like a lighter colored solid ball.
As for other games that help with eight ball, One Pocket ranks up there I’ve found. One Pocket is my favorite game and many things I’ve learned while playing it, have carried over to my eight ball game.
Great video and thanks Brian.
Btw, I’ve actually never attempted to shoot any rolling ball into a pocket in my 2 1/2 years playing the game…you make it look easy 👍🏻💪🏻👍🏻
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I’ve been shooting those rolling balls for 15 years so I have a bit of a headstart on you. Thanks for watching and thanks for your comments.
@@FXBilliards 👍🏻
Shooting 8 ball came easy to me, I started with 9 ball actually.
Every one has their own way of shooting, I’ve heard the shadow system( not sure if that is the actual name) it’s when you line the ball with a object across. I tried it, but the thought of not looking at the table is just to complicated, I’ve heard look at the que ball last which don’t make sense either similar to walking with your head down. I even went to quadrants to break down each portion of the diamond system by cubic inches which was similar to the shadow except I replaced it with staring at the felt that got mesmerizing. After all that repetition and confidence was the best.
Great tips, as always!
Much of what you say seems elementary, at first, until I (we) realize just how many mistakes and harmful habits I've fallen into.
Thanks for your expertise!!
I'm a master level in 8 ball, when I'm not practicing 8, I like practicing ten ball. It's harder to break than 9, and you have one more ball on the table to deal with.
I get mad at myself in games when I run the table, make all the hard shots, then don't take my time on the easy 8 shot and miss it. Sometimes I just get down and shoot and don't take the time to aim the ball. I need to slow down.🤔😆
I prefer to warm up on a table by myself. Is that weird? The players on my league teams (esp lower level APA players) dont get it. Playing a "game" is not warming up for me. When I warm up, I like to re-shoot shots I miss until I make it at least 3 times in a row. Or maybe just shoot the draw drill with a line of balls at the center pockets to get my stroke established. The only time I dont mind "warming up" playing games, is if I'm done warming up by myself. Does this make me a pool snob?
If I have to play with someone, due to table availability I always rack 8ball, no matter what discipline we're playing that day, and I shoot mainly safety shots. It helps me with ball control and helps them get out of safeties they don't normally see. LOL, they usually don't understand until they face that shot in a match and know what to do because I showed them "warming up". Its quite satisfying.
Thanks for the great content as usual B. Keep it up. Cant wait for the next one!
Good stuff and I agree about the warming up thing
Me too, Jeff. My team members like to "warm up" with matches but I prefer to practice lagging, breaking, and shooting some bank shots.
love watching the videos, makes my deployment better
I read a study years ago, where they had 2 different groups of ppl. Everyone was tested before hand to see how good they was at shooting free throws and all were roughly the same skill level. Group A practiced shooting free throws (for real) for 1 hour a day for 30 days. Group B sat in a quiet room and visualized shooting free throws for 1 hour a day for 30 days. And Group B actually showed more improvement than group A.
Or it could have been for 7 days I don’t remember. lol
Absolutely I have referenced that study and a number of my videos you are absolutely right. I think I also discussed it in our master class on the mental game of pool. NWQpool.com
I have been saying this for a long time. That I need to find 15 eight balls and just play with those. I did a quick Internet search and I came up dry, where would a person buy a full set of just black balls? Thank you.
Edit. Just found a full set of regulation size 8 balls for $22 on Amazon. Cyber Monday deal.
Those black balls are almost impossible to find. I bought my set 15 years ago, but had to buy each ball individually. .
Where did you pick up the black ball set? I'd like to work on this.
I sabotaged myself last night, twice. Even though I ended up winning (luck was on my side), I'd like to get the 8-ball demon out.
I’ve had them for 15 years. I’m not sure where I got them, but they are very difficult to find.
Btw Bryan i tried your 15 ball practice. Hard at first but now👍
Keep it up. Thanks for watching. I appreciate it.
I can buy the balls.. I just can't afford the table to use them on
You can take them with you.
@@FXBilliards I'm seriously considering scheduling some one on one lessons with you and using your black balls... distance is the issue... I'm on Long Island.. maybe after the holidays
Off subject I kno but what joint do u recommend. Hard to find anything about pool cue joints
Almost everything I have is a Uniloc. Because I use almost exclusively predator cues
So where do you get those black balls? I’ve looked, but, the best I’ve found is a 2 1/4 snooker set.
They are pretty much impossible to find. I built my set 15 years ago.
Always great videos ! Thanks
Glad you like them!
You are awesome dude! Your videos are so helpful, thank you for all your help.
Glad you like them! As always thanks for watching
I can hit a moving ball, but I can't make it. That's intimidating!
A trick I picked up about 15 years ago and pull out of the box every now and then.
I have a love hate relationship with 9 ball, LOL.
I think that describes you and a million other people. Thanks for watching.
You don't play position for an imaginary ball that you have to do anything for, like where you drew back for that hanger. You imagine the next ball in a lovation where position is automatic with the way you want to shoot the money ball. No extra effort needed.
So true!!!
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Well, I've learned allot and plan to use his advice, so thank you sir.
But DAMN he kept nailing the rolling balls, all through the video, right to the end!😂
Totally agree with you on the "play position for another shot when on the eight ball." The reasons you gave for not agreeing with that are exactly the reasons I think it is foolish. Just make the ball! I think playing position on the next ball MIGHT help some people but it isn't going to help a majority of people.
Your suggestion about shooting the eight ball, many times, in other drills is much better.
I saw a guy doing this (but with nine ball) in the Philippines a few years ago. He was practicing and telling me the "the key to sinking the nine ball is to think about there being a 10 ball and you have to get position for that ball." We ended up playing probably 40 games of nine ball and he only missed maybe two nine ball shots while we played. Why? Because he was such a bad shooter that he rarely had a shot on the nine to win any game.
After playing I, politely as I could, told him the "issue with you missing nine balls isn't because you are tense; are you tense on the one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, and eight? Because you also miss a lot of those."
Well that comment didn't go down well, even though I said it fairly politely and with a smile on my face. He was mad but after an hour or so he says "hey man, I think you are right. I just need to be a lot better at pocketing balls."
Yep, just work on ball pocketing skills as much as you can. When down on the eight, or nine in nine ball, or ten in ten ball, all you have to do is make the shot. So work on THAT. This is why I like this channel - real world pool playing advice and not nonsense that someone hears and pushes it along.
I totally agree with the visualization tip. I don’t have a pool table at home. I do have my cue. How do you stroke exercises and visualization exercises every day and it helps quite a bit.
Great stuff as always, Bryan!
Thanks again!
I saw a video on 9-ball recently in which the presenter talked about trying to make the 8-ball on the break- 'cause it is harder to make during the match due to its dark color. This fits in with what Bryan is saying here. I'm going to order a couple of 8-balls and use them for practice.
Is straight pool just playing the whole rack of 15 balls in any random order?
Straight pool the game itself, is a lot more than that. But yes, you can shoot any ball in any order.
Thanks for you instructional vids. I have been watching you for over two years now ....and the Doc of course. I like your no nonsense approach to getting it done. I am a more then advanced novice player and I really like playing players that can kick my bootie. I learn. Just met a fellow a couple of days ago that was a definite challenge......he was trembling on the on the eight. I could see it happening even though he was a good player. He did win. I watch his eyes, fingers, tip and stroke position and it always seems to change on the eight ball shot. The cloth color, lighting etc all make the eight ball shot "money ball" interesting. That is a good idea to just shoot black balls. Keep up the good work my friend. Mike in Olympia WA, USA
i end up losing more games because of this issue :( shoot an awesome game and through it all away! i clam right up! something i really need to address! its 100% mental and i miss shots that any other time i seem to make all day long! thanks for this video im gonna give it a go with more practice just shooting the 8!
I was seriously considering getting 15 8 balls so i could just shoot entire racks to help "demystify" the 8 as you put it. Funny you mentioned that. Suppose ill be getting some now 😂
Here is the link to some inexpensive eight balls. amzn.to/49MuBtb
Thanks!
Thank you for your support of the channel
U give me food for thought, will work on the mental side, thanx brian
Thank you Brian
My pleasure!
Damn, B, with those rolling 8 ball shots I might have to start calling you Flex Luger. 😂
lol ♦️ thanks for watching buddy
@@FXBilliards You’re the best, dude. Like I said before, my fiancée is always like, “Oh nice, a new Bryan video!” She’s a keeper.
Great video!! I’ve struggled with position play. Sometimes I do well but other times I don’t. I heard that theory about playing position when on the eight and I really think it’s a stupid theory. Just make the eight!! LOL! However, when I’m not on the eight and trying to play position, I find my self thinking more about the position I want and not making the ball I’m shooting at, which causes me to miss. I’ve been working hard at not doing this and concentrating more on making the ball. I know I need to let go of the position once I’ve established what needs to be done, but it’s hard sometimes.
I play both 8 and 9 ball in league and I have to say, 9 ball is my favorite game. I believe you when you say it helps the 8 ball game. I have to think about my shots more in order to get position on the next ball. It has definitely improved my eight ball game.
Thanks for your videos, I watch them everyday, sometimes over and over. I always look forward to the notification when a new one comes out. My Christmas present to me this year is purchasing your video package, possibly the one with the zoom classes included! I love the way you explain shots so that I understand better the mechanics behind them. I’ve learned more 8:35 in the short time I’ve be watching than I have in the six years of playing pool with some very high level players. Thank you!! And keep those videos coming!!
Wow, I really appreciate your comments. Glad to have you on board with us.
I've been playing 10 balls instead of 9 balls, easier to rack 😁 Btw, nice shots on those rolling balls, reminds me of Earl Strickland, he likes to show off that skill as well 🙂
Yes, Earl is even better at it than I am, but he got about a 20 year headstart on me doing this. Maybe more than 20 years. lol I’ve been doing it for 15 years on and off. Earl does it regularly at his exhibitions - thanks for watching. Thanks for your comments.
Hey Brian I love your videos! I make a greater percentage of 8 balls when I am playing position. I don't pretend that I am trying to get on another ball but I am being very intentional about where the cue ball is going to stop. This is part of my normal routine. If and when I leave it out my stroke gets sloppy and I can miss extremely easy shots.
Good stuff
Every great athlete uses visualization because you have to picture yourself doing something mentally to make it happen physically and that includes winning!
Absolutely Rob- thanks for your comments. Thanks for watching.
nice vid. I will make 9 ball my official game when alone or warming up... this was a great tip...
Glad it helped
Good advice as always Bryan! Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge. Straight pool is a great game for a lot of reasons as you mentioned …
Definitely my favorite game
What I got from this video is Brian is really good at potting a moving ball and I need to practice this lol, not sure when it comes into play ever but it looks cool.
The greatest benefit from those moving balls is when the shot comes up in a game, I think to myself “ I make this shot with the balls moving so this is nothing. “
Agree 100% that playing 9 ball helps improve your 8 ball game!
Absolutely- thanks for watching
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No, You're the best !!
Merry Christmas Bryan
I never thought about 9 ball that way, i will change.
Thanks for watching. Hope it helped.
Appreciate the good advice. Good lesson.
Thanks for watching!
I have been playing straight pool against the ghost lately instead of 9 ball…. I find it more helpful for me
That is absolutely the way I learned to play pool. Thanks for sharing.
@@FXBilliards really? Wow! … I thought I was on to something… now I know so! Lol
Good video Bryan it really helps.
Glad to hear it!
Great advice. Thank you again
And thank you very much for being such a loyal viewer.
Good morning my guy. How many edits did it take you to make every one of those 8 balls? Because if you're just making them like that, think about going pro! FOR REAL AND WE WILL PLAY SOMEDAY! Were you a boyscout? CAUSE BE PREPARED! LOL AS ALWAYS MUCH LOVE MY GUY! GREAT VIDEO! Never thought of it like that and is Very True!❤
Too old to turn pro now - plus pro pool players don’t make nearly enough money. Anyway, been shooting that shot for at least 15 years now, so I’m a favorite to make at least two or three in a row.
Never too old. Money comes money goes. That's why you should turn pro! Get rid of all them BOZOs! 😂
@@FXBilliards that’s why my boy Danny Green never went fully pro and preferred hustling …..RIP🙏. He was an amazing player though (and a bit of a dirtbag too lol)
@@FXBilliards You know Brian your comment about the pros not making enough money is so true. It is getting better, but has a long ways to go. I just watched, last week, Ko Pi Chung win the Chinese-Taipai Open. The winning share was $5000. That is sorta sad actually. I was in the Philippines a few years ago (I actually lived there for 16 years) and was playing a very good player and I told him I thought he was professional level or very close to it.
He said he had thought about turning pro but could actually make MORE money gambling and playing the small regional tournaments than turning pro and playing in the much bigger events. I hope by the time I drop over dead the purses in these bigger tournaments get a lot bigger. Pool is such a great game and the skill level the pros have is amazing - they should be playing for more.
I'm too old to think it's a good idea: I know better. Also I have a family, houses and toys to take care of. The 50k a year the average pro makes is not gonna get you there. That's why you see so many of them running to RUclips to make money. It's sad that any group of people who are the "best in the world" at anything, would make so little money. Not to mention the endless travel in shitty cars staying in shitty hotels in places they don't even get to enjoy because they cant afford to enjoy the sites. It's not worth it these days. Maybe 30 years ago, or 10 years from now. But not these days. I'v been telling young guys for years. Learn to play poker and blackjack as a counter, and you will make a lot more money and live a nicer lifestyle. That is where I made my most money in the last 20 years. As much as I love pool, CARDS pay a lot better. - I was interviewed for a new TV show that will be coming out in 2024 where we cover this very subject. I will keep you guys updated as we get close. And I will be starting my poker channel soon. The goal is to do for poker players what we do for pool players. Hope you will subscribe, even if you don't play cards ♠️ ♠️ ♠️
What is your opinion of One Pocket?
I think it’s a great game, but I don’t play it because I don’t play it well. I think I lack the patience to shoot so many shots in a row without pocketing balls. But at one of my favorite pool halls, they play at constantly.
I love the creativity of one pocket
Bryan! Thanks as always for your videos. Can you explain what you mean by "8-ball bails you out"?
When I say eight ball bails you out what I’m saying is there’s so many options on the table that when players don’t get in position, they get bailed out by having their other balls on the table. A player can play bad position seven times in a row and still run a rack. Thanks for watching. I hope that answers your question.
@@FXBilliards It did thank you!