BMW i5 eDrive40 - All electric 5 Series maybe the best BMW EV so far ! | 4K
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- The BMW i5 eDrive40 is the first all electric 5 Series and is maybe the best BMW EV so far. We first saw the 5 Series in 1972, 51 years later the 5 Series becomes the last segment of BMW to be electrified. The BMW i5 is such an important car for BMW and it is nice to see an EV that isn't an SUV !
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I think they've nailed it by the sound of things. It's a car, not a spaceship, it looks relatively handsome and drives well. Classic 5 series DNA.
Yep 👍
Fabulous car, 99% will be on company car lease, you don’t want to buy an EV . The car is huge, almost the same size as a 2019 7 series. Best EV on the market
Great review Pete. Love the interiors of the latest Beemers and quite like the ambient lighting too.
Nice video Pete. Even better for me as I live in Fleet and drove round with you on the local roads when you did the test drive.
Nice one 👍
Agree with you - I like the design language on this one - solid review as always. Caught up with JA in Oz and love the podcast you guys are doing too.
Really enjoying the content on the channel best of luck with everything ahead 👍👍
Much appreciated!
Hi ped yet another very good review you are my go to guy for reviews great stuff
Thanks for testing the basic model as it is more relevant in the current interest rate environment!
Great point!
Another great Video 👍
Love the smile on your face when you pulled the trigger
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Wish the missus was with you when you did that and would of loved to see her response or raised eyebrows 🤣
Can’t wait to see u in the EV9 in December 👏👏👏
Great video mate
Thanks 👍
I love the lighted crystal strip. Looks awesome.
My 530D is Euro 6 and has a range of 650 miles on Eco Pro. Range anxiety is really stressful, you end up in a right state! Sold my EV 3 months ago pleased it’s gone.
range anxiety is something I and any of my friends dont understand. I need a pause every 300 km and charging my Taycan for 15 minutes is doing the job. I would never ever go back to ICE car, let alone a diesel. huhh.......
Good for you only loopy misguided tree huggers would have an EV. They are not even green. Diesel is far cleaner.
Totally agree. Nothing wrong with Euro 6 diesel, very efficient vehicles.
Euro6 doesn’t mean the exhaust gases are clean. Diesel vehicles are still dirty polluters - put a pipe from the exhaust into the cabin with the engine running and you will be dead within 30mins !😱
Follow a diesel on the road and there is black soot coming out of the exhaust under every acceleration.
The majority of people on the road don’t need 650 miles of daily range - that’s the tiny minority of drivers.
@peterhammer4644 300km sounds more tham 186 miles!
I wouldnt even comsider an EV if travelled long distances. A 15 minute stop is no major hardship if you can get on a charger when you need one. For now, I'll stick to ICE.
Great test Ped, as always.
I think the estate version of this will definitely be in my sights. Unless the charging infrastructure improves markedly in the next 12 months though, then it's likely to be as a plug in, rather than a full electric.
What experience do you have of the UK public charging infrastructure?
18 months of running a Hyundai Ioniq 5.
A fast EV wagon 👌
The charging infrastructure IS improving daily. There hasn’t been a motorway services I’ve stopped at in the last 2 years that hasn’t either got a huge array of chargers or is having them installed.
Love it. The new BMWs I think are really quite impressive. Looking forward to driving an i5 fairly soon.
Good choice!
Have got an X5 and a 4 Series on my driveway, why would I pay £75k for a basic 5 Series…no future in electric until the prices come down…
It looks very nice and you've said it drives well too, I believe it does because I trust you. For me to drive that one, I will have to wait probably for 20 years. The best I can do right now is to watch your clips.
Great video. Really interesting.
Had a 530e G30 until last year and sold it because I didn’t like the dual-‘engine’ powertrain or the lack of boot space.
The i5 Estate may well really appeal.
Another great review Pete I am not a fan of these EV fake grills but this one looks better than most. I love to see a review of comparing the i5 to the Petrol version. I expect the latter would put an even bigger smile on you.
Why? It would likely be far slower.
@@Pugjamin Ahh, but its the roar of the engine, the smell of those inefficiently burnt hydrocarbons and the joy of paying. homage to the gods of oil 😂
Not an EV fan but I watched this as it’s you mate and I enjoy your reviews. I’ve got to admit I do like this I5 and the idea of an I5 estate is very interesting. It’s got some really Gucci features and I’d say it’s fun to drive judging by your grin.
1:38 I LOVE the cut outs for the TailPipes.
It is nice but just too expensive,Nice one fella 👍😉💪
Thanks 👍
£75k options for a 5 series with an electric motor is insane. I paid £49k for a well spec’d 530d just over a year ago. I can’t see where the extra £25k of value is.
This i5 40 needs to be compared to the 540i, the 530 has much less power. The 540 in 2017 cost about £60k, which in today’s financial climate, high inflation for 3+ years, is £76k
Looks good and in estate form will be a fantastic addition to the range, but a shame BMW gave up on the lightweight construction approach they used for the i3 which is what makes them so much better to drive than most EV’s especially in i3s form. Because of that (and the average aerodynamics) you sense the real-world range will struggle.
"least jarring" but still has a face only its mother could love. Rear as you say not too bad. Front just a mess. (IMHO)
Agreed. And the digital screens are a mess
@krisdonnelly8122 I've got a 2021 m340i touring. Last of the non mahoosive grilles, and an actual dash rather than a 2 foot ipad!
It’s EV’s and SUV’s with the extra weight that have got our roads in the state they are in. Plus the dust from the tires and brakes are a insidious pollutant, as all that weight takes some stopping, and some grip getting around a bend in the Road. The romance of the motor car will end with EV’s and possibly that’s what the planet needs.
In addition insurance costs for EVS are going through the roof because of their complexity in relation to accident damage etc .
@@hpman911Yep, and how many EV miles need to be driven to make up for one thermal runaway fire?
And then the child slavery in extracting the minerals.
Etc etc
Family car now £75,000 for a 5 series. 😭
I know, it’s crazy isn’t it? I have a G31 5 Series and if I wanted to replace it with an i5 Touring I’d probably be looking at close to £80K with a few options. However, I was chatting to a salesman at my local BMW dealer a few weeks ago and he said they are so busy and have no problem selling £100K + cars!!!
Exactly. I had a G31 530d I sold a few years back. Regretted it every day since !
It is a joke. Who has that kind of money?! I am on a 6 figure salary and can't even afford a £45k car. In fact I am still driving my 2011 318d Touring, and happy as Larry. I get great mileage in comfort.
@@jay26ceecan I ask how you're not affording it? I'm on about 30k and I'm leasing an electric car costing £42k.
@@timaustin2000 supporting family on single salary, most of my net income goes on mortgage, insurances, monthly bills, etc. Especially my mortgage! The price have to pay to live in a fairly nice area. And what makes me avoid another commitment of a new car or fairly new 2nd hand car is interest rate have gone up a lot and my mortgage is expected to go up another £600 per month soon. Not even sure how I am going to afford that without moving.
I really like bmws but there just not a option for me. Definitely a good looking car. Great review and video Sir Pete
I enjoyed watching the Video. Will be a very popular choice with Company Car Drivers 😊
It is really nice to see a saloon instead of crossover or 4x4 in electric vehicle.
Just had i4 35 as my company which was great. Lucky enough to have just been given i5 40 as my next car which is simply fantastic. Your right about the bongs though😂
Very nice!
Have just watched your i7 test drive. So this is the smaller «premium » sedan as opposed to the luxury offered by the i7. All is logical just as it always has been between the 5 and the 7-series. I prefer the front end of the i5, but still prefer the 6 cylinders on the ICE versions. Agree with you on BMW getting their electric vehicles right though, especially being careful with looks (way nicer than the brand beginning with T) and driving dynamics.
Two Petrol Ped BMW videos in the same evening ! 😊 Who needs telly ?
Cheers, Tom.
This car is spot on, but new car prices even for those with resources are just getting too high, especially with manufacturers having such high interest rates.
The i5 needs a bigger battery. Having a range over 400 miles for a sales executive is vital. 200 miles there 200 miles back. Charge at home or hotel. Then you have it.
Does not getvround the safety issue with EVs though. Diesel is the real answer. Make diesel even cleaner and the EV is dead. Insurance premioms for EVs have increased ten fold in the last year. My car premium has only risen by 40 pounds.
@@Anonymous-ib8so so buy a diesel. It’s your choice.
As a EV the i5 is clearly one of the best yet. If you like your noisy old diesel good for you. Everyone has life choices.
I currently drive a BMW with a silky smooth 6 cylinder petrol engine and love it.
But I have driven the i4 40 and M50 and both were incredible cars.
Range and ease of ownership with the petrol car suits me.
@@Anonymous-ib8sowhat safety issues with EV’s? The imagined ones? The reality is that EV’s are 20 times less likely to be involved in a fire than ice. And yes, that’s allowing for differences in numbers. EV fires are less likely to spread to other vehicles as they don’t dump litres of burning fuel on the floor to flow around as it pleases. They are also less likely to have fire spread to them as they don’t have plastic tanks full of flammable liquid under them.
Yes, the fires can be more violent and difficult to fight, but most services now have started carrying additive chemicals what can be added to the water to smother EV fires, plus there are also devices that deploy under the car to pierce the battery and deploy water / extinguisher chemicals directly into the battery.
You’re telling me that sales executive doesn’t stop for a p155 and a Starbucks on the services half way there and half way home on a 200 miles journey? And / or doesn’t have the ability to charge at their hotel?
YoubEV abngelists arecliving in a fairy tale worls. EVs are dirtier more expensive and dangerous than ICE cars. Modern diesels are cleaner less polluting than perol or EVs. They are also as quiet as EVs without the fire risks associated with EVs. Insurance companies who unlike EV ers live in the real world have increased EV premiums massively so that EV renewals are often ten or twenty times higher than those for diesel cars
I prefer the look of the i3 in that nice blue
Don't know how most people will be able to afford one of these starting at 75k, I really don't?
If you work for a company that does EV via salary sacrifice you can afford a lot more car than you’d think. I’ve ordered a fully loaded i4 m50 for the same monthly cost as a base M240i - and with the i4, maintenance and insurance is included.
…and remember, you’re not going to the petrol pumps either so monthly costs are dramatically reduced
They paid attention in class…
Love the colour! Bit pricey? Touring should be epic!
I totaly agree all of us would do that try and find out rather than read the instructions
😂😂😂
It costs a lot and will be worth half the price within 12 months.
Lucid Air Pure is more appealing at the same price range as this BMW.😮
How times have changed, back in the sixties Timo Makinen had all the chrome on his Mini instruments painted with Matt black blackboard paint to stop any reflection entering the cabin on the snow covered Monte, and from Henry Liddons map reading light! now it seems manufacturers are fitting as much multi coloured lighting as possible to the cars interiors 🤔
Great review as always.Nice car ,but £75000,that's pricey.I think most will be bought as company cars.
I like it but definitely a touring version for me because I need dog space. Also think a hybrid works better for me but would consider the all electric. 👍👍
If I win the lottery this is one electric car I could go for.
Amazed that the arm rest in the back looks quite cheap with open cup holders that your elbows will be stuck in
Recommend Harrys review of this sled. Harry is a man of great knowledge and he zonked this 2.4 ton very expensive beast.
Harry is a dinosaur that can’t change, in my view his reviews are like watching your grandad trying to use the remote control for the TV…..
"Electrify everything?" on Patrick Boyle's channel is a wakeup call to those who think that the majority of vehicles are going to be electric any time soon. 24 minutes of blunt facts.
Great car Ped, however 75k is eye watering for a mid range executive car. They all have to get the battery price down. 70% less components in an BV, so what the price. Will stick to Tesla for the considerable future. 😊
Cheaper, better built than a tesla, but ok
A real shame Hendy don’t do BMW (AFAIK) as the i5 would make an interesting long-termer.
I like the i5 a lot and it’s really good to see another non-SUV EV. Like you I’m looking forward to the estate version.
Yeah true 👍
People should review the basic model to show how BMWs come with an exceptionally low spec. It doesn't even have adaptive cruise control which Nissan had 15 years ago and a Toyota yaris has now. If you want any modern tech you have to add a tech pack for over £2k. Seems odd that it's not standard on a car that now starts at £68k
Pros: attractive looks, proper dashboard and controls, build quality ( the complete opposite of Tesla!) Cons: Too expensive, will depreciate heavily, real world summer range c.280 miles, winter c.220 miles. Newish used 530d or X5 30d ( if you like SUVs) makes more sense for the next 7 years or more unless compelling reason to get an EV, e.g, company car tax.
Lovely looking car. More efficient than my i4 M Sport. And better handling from reviews. Good work BMW!
Thanks! 👍
Obviously no idea of well made cars
Very interesting. It's a BMW, what's not too like. Range is everything and it looks like BMW have tackled that challenge. The only issue is the price, £70K and upwards but it's too be expected.
Love your vids always, but I do have a small complaint haha. Your piano track at the end of your vids always comes on so loud compared to everything else. Honestly, the instant the piano kicks in, I immediately close the video cuz it annoys me. First world problems of course, but maybe turn the volume down on the piano please 😁
Thanks for the feedback. Great you are still watching at the end 👍
@@PetrolPed well I watch right up to the piano kicking in hahahaha . Love your content P, keep it up 😀👍
Sorry you didn't get to keep it longer Pete, It's been great driving different i5's from a personal point of view and seeing how they have performed over the last few weeks , especially since the weather has dropped. I am certain this car will be the peoples choice . 🙏🙏💯💯👍👍
Mad to think a 5 series is a near 6 fig car (with options)
I5 looks an impressive package. Just not getting excited by the move to electric cars. Can’t wait to hear more about your opinion of the M3 Touring. Now that is my kind of car. Next step up from my M340i Touring.
I'm liking them less and less. I don't like the way they are being pushed as so environmentally kind ...and we know that they are not, all things considered. I dont like the way they keep exploding either.
I had several M3:s before my Taycan and granted the M3 E92 was a great great car. But now after having the Taycan for 3 years I could never even think going back to ICE. No, no and no.
@@allosaurusfragilis7782all things considered they are still much more environmentally friendly than ICE (there are plenty of comparisons out there - look at Engineering Explained). They also don’t keep exploding. And if they do, for every 1 that does, 20 ICE do the same, because the figures prove that EV are 20 times less likely to catch fire than ICE. (That’s adjusted for numbers on the road as well) suggest you check out Ped’s mate Richard from Vintage Voltage as he has a number of videos on the subject.
@@allosaurusfragilis7782they don’t keep exploding. And in the long run they are more climate friendly. Do your research. There’s more petroleum cars that blow up/ burn. Just the anti electric lobby trying to give EV’s a bad name.
As for driving experience: I have an EV and wouldn’t want to go back to petrol. Driving an EV is loads of fun. Only problem it’s still too expensive.
Currently on my 3rd 5er, (530d G31)...I'm sure this new i5 is superb.....but its too big, has insufficient range, and is crazy money...?
Seems like the ambient light bar, crystal dials and massive touch screens are here to stay.....
Nice review - I hope you can turn off the "engine" sound - 5 series has always been a great mile eating beast - had various tourings for over 20 years - can't wait for next year
Hello Ped, love this, always been a close 2nd to Audi for me.
Same here!
Artificial noise sounds like an Austin 1100 transmission
Saw one at the dealer when I picked my i4 up yesterday. Lovely car in the flesh. Just a bit too big and pricey for my liking.
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The previous five series was the best looking car they've ever made. Now they don't make a single good looking car. Everything looks Chinese. It's really sad, as I've been a huge bummer fan my whole life. Audi have been making some nice cars lately. Fingers crossed for rs6 etron 🤞
When you accelerate, it sounds like a Jowett Jupiter Javelin from the fifties.
Sharp thumbnail. I would have lighter tan interior but not a fan of two tone style. I also find it odd there is no normal silver currently. Interested to hear more on phone integration when you get more time with it. Interested how the ICE feel too with straight six
Trying to up my thumbnail game 😜👍
Needs an opening sunroof!! BMW stop putting fixed roofs in you EV’s for the UK - please give us an opening sunroof for the i5 like you offer in the USA!
What's that thing you touch at @8:30? Made a clicking sound.
I don't think I've ever seen one in a BMW,...
Ah very funny. They are an optional extra 😜😂
I really do like the fact that it looks like an ordinary car. I know we have to embrace technology, but is it really necessary for the car to be giving you so many instructions and you being required to read and select all those options to turn something off when driving.
For me safety should come first. Bring back old switch gear and get rid of all the technology that isn't essential.
Do we really need mobile offices!
But congratulations to BMW. Fantastic looking car.
Nice summary review of a very impressive car but £75K wow way beyond my budget, neighbour has a 3 series EV saloon and loves it but a company car, maybe now better tax breaks, might be worth doing a video of the re-emergence of company EV vehicles looking popular gain
It’s certainly a good looking car and as much as BMW’s have always been expensive, I suppose £70k plus for a German saloon is acceptable….
Most of the up-class hotels where I work in London are running fleets of EV 7 series and they have lights around the grills and I have to admit they do look impressive.
Looks good for a BMW
Just in the USA, 4 new coal burning power stations just to satisfy the need to charge EVs. 1 being built just to power an EV battery factory. Environmentally friendly? I think not.
Interestingly my new to me 2008 Volvo XC70 SE Sport D5 with a full tank shows me a range of 600 miles using good old heavy oil. So would never have range anxiety. Plus it only cost me £12k with 18,000 miles.
I sold the Lexus CT200H as I am not going electric ⚡️
The sound that the 5 series makes is pure London Underground 🚊 😅😅😅😅
When was the last time time you did 200 miles without a break?
Is the pan roof standard?
That downward slope boot lid is very E12
drive exactly this one for 3 weeks and cannot explain the massive up grade vs my last 3 yrs old 540 d. yes, adjustment in behavior is reqired for range , but who cares really. the electronics create this upgrade. Autonomos as much as allowed today, intuitive.
Great to hear 👍
Have had 3 x 530d, just took delivery of 550e, bit apprehensive at first but its an awesome car, starting to like it a lot!
That car would be good as a hatch back
An estate version? Aces! Based on your report...so help me...I have nothing to whinge about 😆🤣! I like it. I hope they turn you loose on that estate when it comes, too. Aloha.
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"Maybe" the best, but for sure the most expensive 5 so far. Ridiculous price. Given the number of reviews all over the internet recently, they have thrown quite a bit of money into ads too. But I still wish them luck to sell this car for this money.
450 mile range and £45/50,000 and I’ll consider it
£45k for a BMW 5 Series 🤔🫣
Even the new 2017 520d cost more than that, and we’ve just had 3 years of 10%+ inflation
Just need far more rapid chargers up and down the UK to reduce anxietyv about finding a charging ststion beyond the range of one's home address
Definitely a challenge unless you own a Tesla. I wanted to buy elsewhere but they just have that totally sorted
plugin hybrid -> yes. fully electric -> no.
The next press guy getting the car after you will be like "what only 15 miles range leff?"
😂😂😂
Well done BMW for launching a car with a mix of electric and combustion power units. But I would forgo a lot of the technology for 6 cylinder diesel engine.
Hi Peds
Hi 👋
I need to go and take a look in the dealer, because (pedantry warning) there is something rather odd about the angle of the central armrest - seems higher at the front than the back?
Otherwise, not keen. Screens overload again, those light strips look tacky and unlike in the 7, the fact it's not a continuous strip just looks odd. It will sell well of course, they always do.
Not a fan at all of the new 5series. It looks bloated and not like a BMW. Great review though, as always
Thanks! 👍
Touring version should be good and more useful than an SUV !
I like the cleaner lines of this 5 Series but I still don’t think it is a looker. The best looking cars are those which you turn around and look at with pride and affection after you have locked the doors. The i5 does not fit into the drop dead gorgeous category for me. Unfortunately I suspect most cars are now “styled” to appeal to US and Chinese tastes.
What was not mentioned was the exterior size of the car - which seem to follow the well trodden formula of within two generations becoming the size of the next model up in the manufacturers range. For a car with sporty pretensions I imagine the i5 is too wide to be able to thread down B roads without too much care as to vehicles coming in the opposite direction. I understand the safety issues that have led to small cars having to get bigger but cars bigger classes just seem to get bigger to accommodate the obese size of their occupants. Another worry I have is all that battery weight must reduce the nimbleness of the car. So overall I guess the i5 will be great for those long weekend runs to the South of France but is it so good for negotiating the B roads of West Sussex or the streets of Chichester?
When I bought a small EV, all I cared about was; how it looked, the drivetrain, efficiency, crash protection, servicing costs and reliability. The tech was of zero interest to me as all this fiddling with the tablet distracts the driver from concentrating on the road, and it has remained switched off apart from changing the charging rate when the car is parked.
Then you're the safest and most considerate EV driver on the road.
I still dont get how a new company like tesla can deploy its own excousive charging network, and yet behemoths like bmw and others cant do the same. Amazing cars but prehistoric thinking on the infrastrucure...or maybe just lazy
Well said! China is adding over 50,000+new charging piles a month ytd. Almost as many chargers every 30days as tesla has in total!
Yet the morons over here with me in the us bemoan we can't spend ANYTHING on ev infastructure. Yet we make 6x the GDP per capita as the Chinese and gave Ukraine over 150billion in the last 18months.
Plus we spent like 10trillion on covid and pandemic related b.s. since early 2020 now. 😑
May I ask for an honest opinion Stage 1 and Stage 2
Question is if you had £80k what would be your choice of car/suv for u and your wife after driving this between the BMW I5 or A Land Rover Defender or a KIA EV9 this is STAGE 1
Then Can u answer this question after December 6 after driving the EV9 class this as STAGE 2 the reason I ask this is I feel u have a very similar life style requirements as me I’d really appreciate this thanks so much
Or If u would pick something totally different for £80k I’d be keen to hear also may we ask Mrs Ped too 👍👍👍
I never understood why BMW stopped selling the i3. What a shame.
Because it didn't make a profit....that carbon fibre cell is expensive
Also I guess it probably doesn’t meet the latest crash zone requirements.
Great car 👌
What kind of salary would you need in the UK to afford this kind of car to buy it outright? Not very many people in the UK could afford it.
Not sure many people will buy it outright 👎
My salary isn’t high, yet I drive a new BMW iX50 (£100k car)
You mention the I3 but what about the lovely i8?
Cool looking car but I found the i8 very underwhelming to drive 😢
@@PetrolPed I found the sill so wide made it hard to get in and boot space barely big enough for a small office breifcase. I have never driven one though. Fairly recently I saw and heard one being given the beans away from my local dealership. Never realised how cool it sounds. It wheelspun up the road looked real quick. Very un 120mpg like. Grown to really like the look of them too. Though as I say I haven’t driven one so if underwhelming then they are not what I was thinking they would be. I recall the lead guy on top gear raving about one saying he preffered it to the M3 of the time.
Is Chris Bangle back?
Awesome looking car but at £105000.
What will the touring cost at launch next year
Not sure yet
Nice car - the problem is the i5 40 M Sport electric version is £24,000 more than the 520i M Sport petrol version.
I'd like to see them justify that… 🤔
Makes sense to not just look at the base price but compare the cars when optioned out.
That ‘s about the same price difference between the previous 520 and 540. The 40 has significant performance increase of the 520, which BMW has always monetized.
If this passed me in the street I would assume it was a 6GT.
New BMW i 5 I like it pp 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Electric to safe the planet 😂……….hydrogen ped why are these manufacturers persisting 😊……value dropped 2k in the time of your brilliant video 😊
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100kwh wagon and I might be interested. This seems too much like i4. With same size battery