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They also tend to write on the dry side--which I'm guessing was a deliberate design choice to make the ink go further, dry a bit quicker, and probably a bit less prone to ghosting or bleeding through to the other side of crappy paper. (I normally prefer the smoothness of wetter nibs, but sometimes the drier writers can be quite pragmatic.)
I have a LAMY AL-Star and I can attest to this. The first time the cartridge looked dry I thought “Why’s it still writing?”. I was able to write a couple more pages before really having to swap out cartridges.
Many "older" designs are dryer writers. Before the explosion of colors and "special properties," was the more important thing to consider. And this was designed for students, and who wants to clean up the messes a 10 year old can make with a fountain pen?😂
@@LePainQuiFaitDesMathsMany Waterman pens tend to be wetter writing. And they have an equivalent to the Safari in their unfortunately not made anymore JIF lines.
This man can truly sell a pen. Not only have I purchased one, but I have also purchased a container of ink, a refillable cartridge, and a special notebook specifically for the pen. He didn’t even try to upsell me! Assuming I remember this comment when I receive the pen and all of the items, I’ll write a little review. Insane salesmanship, and he’s not even getting commission. 🙌
@@bakedpotatouwu Hey! Sorry for the delay in responding. I’ve been using the pen for several months now, and I don’t think I could ever go back to using anything else. I’m planning to get a second one soon, probably with a fine nib (currently, I’m using a medium). The pen itself, along with the disposable cartridges, is amazing. It works extremely well and feels even better in hand. However, when using the ink converter, which allows you to use any ink, it takes the experience to a whole new level. While the pen’s performance remains the same, having the freedom to choose any ink is really cool. I typically stick to black ink since I use the pen for official documents, but it’s great to have the option to experiment with special inks-like those with glitter-for other occasions. That’s why I’m planning to buy a second one. Overall, I’d give this pen a solid 10 out of 10. If you’ve got some extra cash, I highly recommend picking one up!
welcome to the rabbit hole of penmanship ... just one more stubby nib, how many shades of green ink are there exactly? perhaps a red pen for my red inks so i know what's in there, how many weights of paper work best with this ink ..... ad infinitum. I love a Lamy Joy, so nice holding a longer elegant barrel. How are you loving your new obsession?
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With the Safary, Lamy wanted to create a utility item that was practical, inexpensive and functional. It is a “low budget design masterpiece”! It is now a real classic, just like a Pelikan M 200, Montblanc Meisterstück or Kaweco Sport.
I like my Pilot Vanishing Point. Had it for years and I've had no issues other than the matte black finished wearing on the pocket clip and the barrel where it's held and where it lays on its side. It has worked flawlessly with converter or ink cartridges. If you are looking for a daily use fountain pen, I cannot recommend it highly enough
Vanishing Point is a bit pricey with gold nibs but more reasonable with stainless steel nibs about half the price of gold ones. Retractable nibs are sure fit to daily use purposes.
@@rayaxy8285 In my humble opinion, for a pure writing experience, nothing beats Pilot. I also have a couple of those. The Safari just suits my hand really well. It’s hard to explain.
Lamy is a German brand, and in germany we have rules starting from first grade where we need to show up with an ink pen like this. Lamy profited highly from that, as they first came out with a more children friendly version thats made from primary colours and soft wood. Later on they released multiple models of plastic pens that felt smooth and nice to the touch, right at the time where most elementary school kids moved up to secondary schools. They're very expensive in comparison to their competitors, but they're famous for their good quality. So while Lamy might be popular for said reasons, if definitively got its fame from my generation of impressionable young teens that wanted to establish trends in the classroom.
My Lamy fountain pen served me well for over a decade of almost daily use. I got it in first grade and I think the cap was the first thing to break in year 10 or so. Great product
@@SpySxlar Lol I feel old saying "back in my day" 28... but seriously: I think its largely not done any more, but when I first went to school at 6 years old in Germany, we only used fountain pens throughout primary school (and only wrote in cursive). Ballpoint pens weren't really used by us students until 6th grade or something.
@@SpySxlar Lamys are from Germany and in Germany, students only write with pencils in first grade (now, schools use them a little longer, usually until Christmas in second grade). Writing with pencils isn't allowed in exams because they can be erased. That's why we got introduced to fountain pens young. Another reason is that you need more pressure to operate a pencil and German students write A LOT. We generally do not have multiple choice tests but only exams consisting of essays. Math exams don't have multiple choice either, so a tenth grader may easily fill 5 pages with calculations during a 90min exam. So, fountain pens are less painful when held correctly. Pencils are for drawing only after first grade.
It's not only "the best fountain pen for beginners". It's the best fountain pen, period. I used one in school and I still prefer them over ballpen at work.
My Lamy is still my go to writing device. Even when all my schoolmates started using ballpoint pens in the "Oberstufe" I stayed true to my Lamy and use it to this day to fill out documents (I'm German, so that's a lot of it's use case) and making notes. I have mine for 15 years now. I changed its tips and other parts with my classmates... It's a true love story.
As a german this brings back amazing memories. Almost everybody had these in a wooden design that came with either a red or a blue lid. You could write your name ontop of the lid :)
@@pahom2Ballpoints are more convenient and usually cheaper, but fountain pens have a better feel, are refillable, are usually built better due to not being disposable, are better for the environment due to not being disposable, and often end up cheaper long term due to not being disposable. Tldr, ballpoints are convenient, fointains are better in most other ways.
When I was 9 and we were learning how to write cursive instead of individual letters, we were using pen and nib. Basically a stick with a nib on the end which you dipped into the inkwell built into the school desk. And if you think that's primitive, we also had slates that were kept in the cupboard just in case we ran out of ink. We had a new bottle of ink (about 4 pints iirc) at the start of every term and it HAD to last the whole term. Consequently, the black ink we had at the start of the term was a very pale grey by the end of the term. Once in secondary school (age 11 to 18) it was fountain pens all the way - bring your own ink.
@@theymon mhm I've seen this... I wouldn't be surprised if they're easing the fandom into Mamamoo being finished. Since her and Hwasa both left the company; and Solar+Moonbyul forming the weirdly named "Mamamoo+”. I think RBW is losing interest. They're running Purple Kiss and writing for Cherry Bullet and lots and lots of projects. But indeed let's see if the 4 get together again this year or next.
@@SianaGearz it's mostly just schedule conflicts honestly. but I mean, they literally had a world tour last year with Wheein already out of that company for 2 years already. Hwasa moving out just added more things to adjust
OMG I thought I was seeing things. Okay I'm not the only one. She is my bias. Also I went to go see them on tour in the US and they were addressing the rumors of them splitting up and to clear the air they said they aren't. Everyone in the audience screamed from it then I lost my hearing.
We are a fountain pen nerd and own several. They are the best pens to use, hands down. They can handle any paper quality or type with incredible smoothness and ink flow. Amazing pens.
In Germany in primary school, everyone has to write with a fountain pen. And I, like most others, started with that exact pen. We even did a fountain pen license in 2nd grade, learning how to hold and write correctly with a fountain pen. Only recently I've started using fountain pens again, got myself a Twsbi Eco.
@@Maddie-Chanel I referred to myself as "no-so-professional" because I really love Mamamoo's songs and performances, but in the same time I have no idea about their albums name by name nor the members' info like brithday/blood type/hobby... ect. I even don't know Mamamoo's company name! Or if my condition doesn't fit the criteria of being a moomoo, then it's okay. Cheers.
I remember giving mine to a friend as their first fountain pen after I bought my first TWSBI! Ah good times, I hope it’s at least sitting in a junk drawer somewhere 🤣
These things are indestructible. I dug mine out of an old box from like 10 years ago (used it all throughout college) and worked fine with a little hot water cleanup.
I bought this, and as an artist, HIGHLY RECOMMEND. Clean lines, easy ability to vary line thickness, and if you get a converter, you can use any ink, you don’t need to buy cartridges, and it cleans super easily. Definitely worth the money.
That’s basically the pen every child uses starting in the 2nd grade in Germany. And then there are these using Pelikan. Of course if you ran out of ink the only child carrying spare ink capsules were from Pelikan and so didn’t work with Lamy. Imagine this happened during a test
In France the mainstream was Waterman and Parker pens in school, then if you wanted to play the spoiled kid , Creeks or Chevignon were also available ( more looks than anything) However the LAMY pens had a "glide "on the paper that was very satisfying and unmatech in my personal experience. As you probably know, Parker and Lamy cartridges are interchangeable.
This brought back memories. The relief I felt when my teacher told me I no longer needed to write in cursive in third grade was amazing. Having to adjust my handwriting to a style that felt this unnatural to me was somwhat traumatizing I think. I might try a fountain pen again some day but the scratching of an empty ink cartrige or a dry pen after holidays still haunts me.
I’m not a newbie to writing with a pen and I hold mine with 4 fingers, gives me significantly greater control which means I can write smaller than anyone can imagine
idk, on my side i much prefer mechanical pencils. they will never leak, you can erase what you wrote (ink feels too permanent) and they're much less messy. i have a few good ones but the one i carry the most is my pentel kerry
This was the default pen in German schools growing up. I remember going to the local supply store to test different nib sizes to what felt right for me. Felt like choosing a wand at Ollivanders. Thanks for unlocking that memory.
I like mine so much that even though I switched to soft nib flex fountain pens, I specifically bought a stub nib for it so I could keep using it. So it is specifically used as my italic and needle point pen. Though I do wish the xf was a little more extra.
I sold a lot of high-end writing instruments over the years. Montblanc, Montegrappa, Cartier, Dunhill, St DuPont and plenty others. I have to say the Lamy didn’t write the best, but the overall value was great.
Yeah I always disliked the nib on the lamy, I bought two thinking I got just a bum nib but nope they're just not great. Disagree with value though, for similar you can get a pilot metro, solid metal and better nib quality.
@@nut1324 @kesuwen-ci4kb ST Dupont is very consistent and usually produces buttery smooth nib. However, when it comes to special editions, Montblanc and Montegrappa makes stunning pieces. Montblanc utilizes precious resin. Montegrappa has such a beautiful art with celluloid materials in their pieces. Nibs adjust to the individual writers, there is a break in period for most brands.
I would say Parker pers are pretty good for begginers aswel and are a bit less pricey but I would say Lami safari will be more reliable in terms of build quality for lasting long and stuff
One of these brought me all the way through secondary school (grades 5 through 12) and my graduation... Still have it, still use it, still love to write with it
Teachers in Germany generally recommend not to put the cap on the back (and the more “learner” variants of lamy fountain pens have stuff that prevents it) The weight on the back makes the pen much less stable and unbalanced
@@theshoppingexpert I went with medium and fine. For general writing I much prefer the fine. It feels like you're actually writing something. Has more texture (if that makes sense?) to it than medium. That scratchy sound is most satisfying. But for signing documents and such I prefer the medium. It flows much more smoothly than the fine and littler chance of errors or tremors or the nib poking through that horribly thin paper that is common place.
I don't like the triangle grip. For a start I am an artist, and therefore using a utensil in my hands needs to be able to be held in a variety of ways. When I write, I don't use the standard grip. Just because you believe in a "correct" way to hold a pin doesn't mean you should be forcing your way in to others
@@TheJohnLights You're probably mistaking orientations of the nib with a way of holding the pen. I agree that the triangular grip is indeed rather distasteful. I use the proper grip, however, I would still prefer the grip section to be without any shapes, i.e. smooth.
I lived and went to school in Germany for five years between the ages of 12 to 17 (1989-1994). That ink window was a great way to cheat by putting a tiny piece of paper with notes around the ink cartridge. By simply twisting the pieces apart, you could change what notes you saw. I'm not a huge fan of cheating in general, but considering I was taking tests for Latin language into German less than a year after moving there, it was a life saver! 😅
I remember when I ordered the Muji aluminum fountain I was amazed by its smoothness and consistent lines especially its featherweight. But one day I visited a Virgin Megastore and they had a LAMY booth and I tried the Safari for the first time and holy shit.. I finally understood where all the hype came from, must’ve been one of the smoothest pens I’ve ever used in my life. Unfortunately here in our country the safari is hard to get at MSRP, all shops up sell it so high it sometimes turns me away from buying it, but I’m hoping to get it soon.
I've always just bought old dipping pens. 🤷♀️ They have removable nibs of different sizes and made of stainless steel. They also force you to properly hold the pen. Also, it's much more fun to pull out a whole ink bottle to dip in and get various reactions from people around you.
ABS is generally not considered a good plastic for some parts of keyboards. In the keycaps, PBT is generally preferred as it is much more resistant to typing, and does not become shiny, smooth and sometimes sticky like what ABS does after using it for a long time. ABS is however a lot cheaper, a good set of PBT keycaps may cost you around £80.
Wait really? I've seen and used pretty damn good mechanical keyboards that had PBT keycaps and cost around $100 for the whole thing... I'm pretty sure I've also seen PBT keycap sets for like a quarter of that.
Still, everyone loves GMK keycaps and those are famously made from ABS. And they're not exactly cheap either lol. Also PBT can look a little dusty in my opinion. Personally I kinda like POM like some of the Cherry keyboards use.
I'm a fountain pen collector and this is the only popular starter pen I don't have. I want to try it, but I have a very atypical grip, so I'm worried it'll be super uncomfortable. I do have a Pilot Kakuno which has a softer triangular grip which doesn't bother me, as well as a Pilot Vanishing Point, and the clip doesn't bother me even though I hold my thumb over the clip. Maybe I should try it still, I dunno.
It’s worth the 20 bucks for sure. As much as I love the Sharpie gel pens I’d been using before, it really just doesn’t compare. If you like writing by hand a nice fountain pen is a worthwhile investment.
Hmm, my phrasing could have been better. What I had meant was that stainless steel nibs *also* resisted corrosion like gold nibs, but I see how the structure of the sentence + using “not only” to start the sentence can make that less clear
This isn’t over-engineered at all. These are all traits everyone is constantly wanting or trying to add to their fountain pens. This is a perfectly engineered piece.
@@ExhaustedScarfthey're being genuine but youre also right, its quite simple but the average person doesn't really care about these things. It's nice to have something that's designed by people who care about it.
@@hellohaveagoodday I wasn’t worried that they weren’t being genuine, just responding because my opinion differs. I get that, though. I suppose everyone I know who uses fountain pens wants these features, but I don’t know about those who don’t use them. The friends I have who don’t ise fountain pens don’t know much about them, since they don’t use them. It might have been a bit hyperbolic of me to say that “everyone is constantly trying to make their fountain pens have these features.”
Can’t believe someone noticed it even if it was up there for just a split second! My friends were watching it while I was over at their place and I literally did the Leo x pointing meme when I saw it
@@theshoppingexpert I can't believe you read this comment or that you've actually seen Gatchaman crowds. But fun fact Lamy did an actual collab with Crowds to release a special edition lamy safari with gatchaman Crowds logos
Steel nibs have harsh writing experience but what Lamy useful is how sturdy it is. You can keep it unused for weeks and it will still write whereas other pens will refuse as jnk dries
Nah, Lamy's fine and EF may be a little bit feedbacky but try their Medium and Broad nibs.They are really quite smooth. And if you dont like the steel nib, Lamy also offers a 14K gold nib as a replacement.
Not all steel nibs are harsh, but what you're talking about is feedback, most likely. This could be a result of numerous things (unaligned nib tines, the fineness of the nib, etc) and not just that the nib is steel. I've used some gold nibs that are more scratchy than certain steel nibs. It really just depends.
Gold does not get corroded because it is one of the least reactive metals in the reactivity series and it does not react with air or moisture easily. Gold does not get affected by oxygen and most acids. Gold is more stable than any other compounds such as sulfides or oxides.
@@大砲はピュ He was probably referring to the part where the video mentioned of steel nibs in comparison to gold nibs. The sentence wasn't worded very clearly, leading some to take it as gold being "more" prone to corrosion than steel.
In India we have Many Fantastic Indigenous Manufacturer's. I was an person whom used Parker's, Schaeffers,Cross etc but after using indigenous brands I felt that I was an idiot. I Baught foreign crappy pens for high price and didn't buy Superior quality fountain pens that I had in India for fraction of its price.
@@HyenaEmpyema and you dont know that language evolves over time and that the word "literally" has transitioned to being used as an exaggeration of sorts. "It's literally just a pen" The "literally" is used as an amplifier of the fact that it's just a pen. Peace out
I technically hold pens/pencils the “wrong way” (lateral quadrupod) but its how i’ve always done it, and unless I rush it my handwriting looks totally fine. All the others feel awkward Also I have adhd as well lol
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Where is the bio that house the link? I love this pen
@@leads823look up “LAMY safari fountain pen”
It's weird to see a lefty with a fountain pen. Do you have to use a hook??
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and fun fact,in egypt they make the same exact shape. of the pen with cheap weak ahh carbon on the tip and an eraser inside and a 100% plastic body 💀
it‘s also suited for left hand and right hand
ambidextrous must dual wield
And it was the perfect pen to boild a triangle ruler plane
Aren't most writing utensils designed to be useable in different hands?
Not when you've got ink all over your hand no.
@@skoobster4358time to dual wield I guess (I don't know how to write tho)
They also tend to write on the dry side--which I'm guessing was a deliberate design choice to make the ink go further, dry a bit quicker, and probably a bit less prone to ghosting or bleeding through to the other side of crappy paper.
(I normally prefer the smoothness of wetter nibs, but sometimes the drier writers can be quite pragmatic.)
I have a LAMY AL-Star and I can attest to this. The first time the cartridge looked dry I thought “Why’s it still writing?”. I was able to write a couple more pages before really having to swap out cartridges.
And less prone to smearing when the user is writing quickly - the Safari is widely used as a 'school pen'
@HipposHateWater do you have any recommendations of wetter-nibbed fountain pens ? I also prefer writing with those
Many "older" designs are dryer writers. Before the explosion of colors and "special properties," was the more important thing to consider. And this was designed for students, and who wants to clean up the messes a 10 year old can make with a fountain pen?😂
@@LePainQuiFaitDesMathsMany Waterman pens tend to be wetter writing. And they have an equivalent to the Safari in their unfortunately not made anymore JIF lines.
This man can truly sell a pen. Not only have I purchased one, but I have also purchased a container of ink, a refillable cartridge, and a special notebook specifically for the pen. He didn’t even try to upsell me! Assuming I remember this comment when I receive the pen and all of the items, I’ll write a little review. Insane salesmanship, and he’s not even getting commission. 🙌
Review pls!!
@@bakedpotatouwu Hey! Sorry for the delay in responding. I’ve been using the pen for several months now, and I don’t think I could ever go back to using anything else. I’m planning to get a second one soon, probably with a fine nib (currently, I’m using a medium). The pen itself, along with the disposable cartridges, is amazing. It works extremely well and feels even better in hand.
However, when using the ink converter, which allows you to use any ink, it takes the experience to a whole new level. While the pen’s performance remains the same, having the freedom to choose any ink is really cool. I typically stick to black ink since I use the pen for official documents, but it’s great to have the option to experiment with special inks-like those with glitter-for other occasions. That’s why I’m planning to buy a second one.
Overall, I’d give this pen a solid 10 out of 10. If you’ve got some extra cash, I highly recommend picking one up!
@@Greatiblong Sounds great!!
I'm seriously considering one
welcome to the rabbit hole of penmanship ... just one more stubby nib, how many shades of green ink are there exactly? perhaps a red pen for my red inks so i know what's in there, how many weights of paper work best with this ink ..... ad infinitum. I love a Lamy Joy, so nice holding a longer elegant barrel. How are you loving your new obsession?
A lot of german kids learned to write with a Lamy. I still have one, for special occasions.
I still have mine from my school years
One i got in first grade and the second i got in fifth grade.
Same here 😊
It's either Lamy or Pelican
but what do they write
Poetry, mostly. As any first grader does.
A friend that passed away recently happened to give me this fountain pen as a gift. It reminds me of her when I use it at times. RIP Marci.
womp womp
@@sweetdude1298you are a horrible person, get help.
I am so sorry for your loss, I hope you can heal from the pain and that you know your friend will also always watch over you and love you from the other side. May their soul rest in piece❤ all my strength and love you, my friend
@@sweetdude1298wtf bro
@@sweetdude1298you are 12
I didn’t expect Danny ric would show up 💀💀
Found that out 💀💀
yep 😂
Me neither
When he showed up, i found out why this video was on my fyp 😂😭
me either lol (lets hope he stays in f1 after yesterday lmao)
With the Safary, Lamy wanted to create a utility item that was practical, inexpensive and functional. It is a “low budget design masterpiece”! It is now a real classic, just like a Pelikan M 200, Montblanc Meisterstück or Kaweco Sport.
I’ve been working on a video about the Sport! Love mine
My blue ink Pelikan Pointec Super Suave is a delight to use. Lays down a nice bright blue line with hardly any skipping.
dude, you're a pen pro! 😝 👍
@@theshoppingexpert a pen that could glide across the room and then glide on top of paper.
Maybe I'm exaggerating but it works very well
And don't forget the top dog, the BIC Cristal
I like my Pilot Vanishing Point.
Had it for years and I've had no issues other than the matte black finished wearing on the pocket clip and the barrel where it's held and where it lays on its side.
It has worked flawlessly with converter or ink cartridges.
If you are looking for a daily use fountain pen, I cannot recommend it highly enough
Thanks, I’m looking at several different pens. I’ll definitely add this one to my list.
Holy smokes it’s $160. It damn well BETTER be a daily use pen for that price 😂😂
I just received my Decimo in the mail today. I love it already.
Very different market though. A $160 pen is *not* a "beginner" pen.
@@mynamedoesntmatter8652Also take a look at the Decimo. It's the same pen but slightly smaller.
Vanishing Point is a bit pricey with gold nibs but more reasonable with stainless steel nibs about half the price of gold ones. Retractable nibs are sure fit to daily use purposes.
Daniel Riccardo spotted
NOT AFTER HE LEFT 😭
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Lick the stamp and send it
They kicked out the only person that is helping Max.
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No matter what new pen I get, I always come back to my Lamy Safari.
Get an farber castell (u also can use ur old overpriced lami ink evry ink works and the writing Feeling is much better)
@@rayaxy8285 In my humble opinion, for a pure writing experience, nothing beats Pilot. I also have a couple of those. The Safari just suits my hand really well. It’s hard to explain.
I have a quite expensive (ish) sailor pen gifted for me and I still go back to be cheap Lamy 😂 love the grip and weight is perfect
@@dunkyourdonuts2282 I was using the Safari yesterday and, quite honestly, it and my Muji are my favourites! Two very affordable pens.
I prefer my Lamy Al-Star
This guy needs to go on shark tank with that sales pitch.
Yeah... I've had this one for decades and never realised all this. 🫡
I don’t think Lamy needs the sharks money…
You sold me on this just for putting Mamamoo's Wheein in the video 😂😂
Lamy is a German brand, and in germany we have rules starting from first grade where we need to show up with an ink pen like this. Lamy profited highly from that, as they first came out with a more children friendly version thats made from primary colours and soft wood. Later on they released multiple models of plastic pens that felt smooth and nice to the touch, right at the time where most elementary school kids moved up to secondary schools. They're very expensive in comparison to their competitors, but they're famous for their good quality. So while Lamy might be popular for said reasons, if definitively got its fame from my generation of impressionable young teens that wanted to establish trends in the classroom.
I remember trying to pick the coolest color in the stationary isle 😅 I‘m 31 now but Lamy sure made an impression
In the UK they wouldn't even let us use pens until we turned ten 😅
That's business vision 😅
You make small children write with fountain pens? Is there a special educational reason for it or is it just tradition?
@gemmeldrakes2758 we learn cursive very early, and a fountain pen is ideal for the flowing lines.
But surly tradition is also a part ^^
My Lamy fountain pen served me well for over a decade of almost daily use. I got it in first grade and I think the cap was the first thing to break in year 10 or so. Great product
Wow 😮❤
first grade??? what? what are you doing with a fountain pen in first grade??
@@SpySxlar Lol I feel old saying "back in my day" 28... but seriously: I think its largely not done any more, but when I first went to school at 6 years old in Germany, we only used fountain pens throughout primary school (and only wrote in cursive). Ballpoint pens weren't really used by us students until 6th grade or something.
@@SpySxlar In Germany it is very common to use fountain pens in the first grade, hope this helps
@@SpySxlar Lamys are from Germany and in Germany, students only write with pencils in first grade (now, schools use them a little longer, usually until Christmas in second grade). Writing with pencils isn't allowed in exams because they can be erased. That's why we got introduced to fountain pens young. Another reason is that you need more pressure to operate a pencil and German students write A LOT. We generally do not have multiple choice tests but only exams consisting of essays. Math exams don't have multiple choice either, so a tenth grader may easily fill 5 pages with calculations during a 90min exam. So, fountain pens are less painful when held correctly. Pencils are for drawing only after first grade.
It's not only "the best fountain pen for beginners". It's the best fountain pen, period. I used one in school and I still prefer them over ballpen at work.
My preference is with the TWSBI personally. But either one is better than any ballpoint.
He actually did it. He's the guy who can sell a pen.
I got one, and I absolutely love it. It’s my favorite pen of my little collection.
IKR! 😂💀💀💀💀
tbf, he asked to sell another pen...
My god, why I didn't think of that... Economists must be proud
Bro im too broke and plus i lose pens sll the time. Id rather buy a pack instead 💀
Had this in my school years. 10 years, no tearing, no damages and especially the tip is still aligned. Wonderful product which i can recommend
Lamy pens are nice
throughout my school years I primarily used a Lamy fountain pen until like 11th/12th grade where I started using whatever pen lol
My Lamy is still my go to writing device. Even when all my schoolmates started using ballpoint pens in the "Oberstufe" I stayed true to my Lamy and use it to this day to fill out documents (I'm German, so that's a lot of it's use case) and making notes.
I have mine for 15 years now. I changed its tips and other parts with my classmates... It's a true love story.
As a german this brings back amazing memories. Almost everybody had these in a wooden design that came with either a red or a blue lid. You could write your name ontop of the lid :)
Aah the nostalgia!
I had one as well, not German tho
I have the red one, it's so old but still works
absolutely! basically everyone i knew in elementary school had a lamy pen lmao
I absolutely love these kind of pens…fairly easy to use and so beautiful. oh and the feel!! the way these feel when writing is a different experience
The most basic pen in german schools explained like it's a new rolls royce 😂
For most people it IS a new rolls royce. Most people have never used a fountain pen.
In german schools fountain pens are mandatory by grade 2/3 depending on the school.
@@derkarlotto Up until 7th grade which is about the time teachers stop giving a fuck about what you do in general. 😂
@@derkarlotto soo ball pen is better and the fountain pen use can only be enforced
@@pahom2Ballpoints are more convenient and usually cheaper, but fountain pens have a better feel, are refillable, are usually built better due to not being disposable, are better for the environment due to not being disposable, and often end up cheaper long term due to not being disposable.
Tldr, ballpoints are convenient, fointains are better in most other ways.
When I was 9 and we were learning how to write cursive instead of individual letters, we were using pen and nib. Basically a stick with a nib on the end which you dipped into the inkwell built into the school desk. And if you think that's primitive, we also had slates that were kept in the cupboard just in case we ran out of ink. We had a new bottle of ink (about 4 pints iirc) at the start of every term and it HAD to last the whole term. Consequently, the black ink we had at the start of the term was a very pale grey by the end of the term. Once in secondary school (age 11 to 18) it was fountain pens all the way - bring your own ink.
You've just revealed your age 😊
Too much bullshit for a writing utensil
I heard American schools don’t teach cursive anymore. If so, it’s a big mistake!
@@im-gi2pg Cursive has been obsolete since we stopped writing with quills.
It’s also reasonably priced. In germany many school children use(d) it (me included), since parents could get good quality for good money
Best random Wheein sighting omg haha
OMG YES! I instantly rewinded cause I really didn't expect that XD
SO TRUE!! 😂 had to scrub back just to make sure i wasn’t just seeing things and it was actually wheein
i thought I was insane seeing Whee in 😂
yesss
ACTUALLY
The way I IMMEDIATELY spotted Wheein lmaoo
Ok where is it from? Wheein -ex- Mamamoo right?
@@SianaGearz yusssss, also not an ex-member, they're still together, just focusing on solos this year since they're in different companies
@@theymon mhm I've seen this... I wouldn't be surprised if they're easing the fandom into Mamamoo being finished. Since her and Hwasa both left the company; and Solar+Moonbyul forming the weirdly named "Mamamoo+”. I think RBW is losing interest. They're running Purple Kiss and writing for Cherry Bullet and lots and lots of projects.
But indeed let's see if the 4 get together again this year or next.
@@SianaGearz it's mostly just schedule conflicts honestly. but I mean, they literally had a world tour last year with Wheein already out of that company for 2 years already. Hwasa moving out just added more things to adjust
OMG I thought I was seeing things. Okay I'm not the only one. She is my bias.
Also I went to go see them on tour in the US and they were addressing the rumors of them splitting up and to clear the air they said they aren't. Everyone in the audience screamed from it then I lost my hearing.
Not a single pen can beat the original BIC office pen
We are a fountain pen nerd and own several. They are the best pens to use, hands down. They can handle any paper quality or type with incredible smoothness and ink flow. Amazing pens.
In Germany in primary school, everyone has to write with a fountain pen. And I, like most others, started with that exact pen.
We even did a fountain pen license in 2nd grade, learning how to hold and write correctly with a fountain pen.
Only recently I've started using fountain pens again, got myself a Twsbi Eco.
I have a blue pelikan
A bit expensive, but thanks
That sounds cool, I wish I had that exposure growing up
Most don't get this kind of pen, but those red or blue grip, wooden body Lamy pens.
I know a few people that have the wooden ones
I bought this pen years ago. Never going to change it. It looks elegant and timeless and it fits perfectly in the hand.
Buying this pen now. Thank you Wheein.
What's a Wheein.
@@Greenballoffire K-pop star
@@Lucas-sk5iy alright thanks for letting me know !
The woman with the blue hair in this video. @@Greenballoffire
I've been using them for 5 years now, I simply love to draw, doodle and write with em they are so amazing
What's the name of this pen? I want to buy one haha
Lamy Al Star is very similar & bur made from aluminium (hence the name).
Its a good alternative
I'm a Mamamoo fan and have never noticed before that Wheein is using this pen in the 'HIP' video!
Not-so-professional moomoo here.
BTS video or the actual music video? BECAUSE HOLYYYY I AM A BIG FAN OF WHEE IN
@@hiankunnot that kind if you aren't just joking around, moomoo's are rarely like that.. sad to see
@@Maddie-Chanel I referred to myself as "no-so-professional" because I really love Mamamoo's songs and performances, but in the same time I have no idea about their albums name by name nor the members' info like brithday/blood type/hobby... ect. I even don't know Mamamoo's company name! Or if my condition doesn't fit the criteria of being a moomoo, then it's okay. Cheers.
christ this takes me back. had one of these get me through school. wonder if I still have it...
I remember giving mine to a friend as their first fountain pen after I bought my first TWSBI! Ah good times, I hope it’s at least sitting in a junk drawer somewhere 🤣
@@Guadaxc4god forbid
@@Guadaxc4 Good ducking god
Jesus Christ
@@Guadaxc4Jesus fucking christ
I have one of these, I use it everyday. Great pen.
Is Daniel Riccardo there in it ❤
Ofc Danny is there
he's a high performance athlete
Kikiraraa sweat he’s an athlete so duh lol
The first thing that caught my eye was this
Dude he said Athletes. Jhi is a Formula 1 driver
These things are indestructible. I dug mine out of an old box from like 10 years ago (used it all throughout college) and worked fine with a little hot water cleanup.
😮amazing
I bought this, and as an artist, HIGHLY RECOMMEND. Clean lines, easy ability to vary line thickness, and if you get a converter, you can use any ink, you don’t need to buy cartridges, and it cleans super easily. Definitely worth the money.
That’s basically the pen every child uses starting in the 2nd grade in Germany. And then there are these using Pelikan. Of course if you ran out of ink the only child carrying spare ink capsules were from Pelikan and so didn’t work with Lamy. Imagine this happened during a test
In France the mainstream was Waterman and Parker pens in school, then if you wanted to play the spoiled kid , Creeks or Chevignon were also available ( more looks than anything)
However the LAMY pens had a "glide "on the paper that was very satisfying and unmatech in my personal experience.
As you probably know, Parker and Lamy cartridges are interchangeable.
In my school it was the opposite, everyone had Pelikan, but one kid.
Yeah i looked for the German comment.
I learned with a lamy but switched after primary school to faberKastelk because the ink is cheaper
We had pelikan in 1st or 2nd grade and then switched over to lamy later. Cant remember why though
This brought back memories. The relief I felt when my teacher told me I no longer needed to write in cursive in third grade was amazing. Having to adjust my handwriting to a style that felt this unnatural to me was somwhat traumatizing I think. I might try a fountain pen again some day but the scratching of an empty ink cartrige or a dry pen after holidays still haunts me.
I’m not a newbie to writing with a pen and I hold mine with 4 fingers, gives me significantly greater control which means I can write smaller than anyone can imagine
One of the German essentials, when starting school. Good old times ❤️
Been using my Lamy for 4 years now, and I've only recently had to get new ink! Love how sustainable these pens are, and so smooooth too.
@Michael-ur3on I write every night my friend!
idk, on my side i much prefer mechanical pencils. they will never leak, you can erase what you wrote (ink feels too permanent) and they're much less messy. i have a few good ones but the one i carry the most is my pentel kerry
@@oliviersavard8676 I use my faber castel pen for daily writing and my lamy for non eraseable signatures and similar stuff
It looks like a great pen, my only problem is the triangle hand grip.
Was not expecting to see Wheein here ❤
Yess, was about mKing the same comment😅
My moomoo heart 😍❤️ I was wondering if I just imagined seeing wheein I had to rewind haahhahah
@@jenicananteza i had to slow it down too 😅
@HagiaGratia I was like, that scene looks familiar, but nahhh its just my imagination 🤣🤣🤣
wheein caught me off guard
This was the default pen in German schools growing up. I remember going to the local supply store to test different nib sizes to what felt right for me. Felt like choosing a wand at Ollivanders. Thanks for unlocking that memory.
I've had bad quality control experiences with Lamy Safaris. If it's your first pen, try a Platinum Preppy or Pilot Kakuni
That was surprisingly wholesome
Thank you for such an informative and wholesome video!!! ✨👏
I like mine so much that even though I switched to soft nib flex fountain pens, I specifically bought a stub nib for it so I could keep using it. So it is specifically used as my italic and needle point pen. Though I do wish the xf was a little more extra.
I sold a lot of high-end writing instruments over the years. Montblanc, Montegrappa, Cartier, Dunhill, St DuPont and plenty others. I have to say the Lamy didn’t write the best, but the overall value was great.
which one writes the best in your opinion?
Same question here
Yeah I always disliked the nib on the lamy, I bought two thinking I got just a bum nib but nope they're just not great. Disagree with value though, for similar you can get a pilot metro, solid metal and better nib quality.
@@nut1324 @kesuwen-ci4kb ST Dupont is very consistent and usually produces buttery smooth nib. However, when it comes to special editions, Montblanc and Montegrappa makes stunning pieces. Montblanc utilizes precious resin. Montegrappa has such a beautiful art with celluloid materials in their pieces. Nibs adjust to the individual writers, there is a break in period for most brands.
@@lolkthnxbai Interesting, I haven't tried a pilot metro , I had a cross with a steel nib and it wrote well, I still prefer gold nibs.
It hurts that you clearly damaged the nib in the beginning. Lamy nibs are NOT flex nibs, don't push on them
“It forces you to hold it correctly because of it’s shape-“
Me : **PUTS ON A PENCIL GRIPPER**
I have two of these pens and they are quite nice to write down notes. I also like the thin lines that they create but sometimes it can be scratchy
Learned to write with Pelikan and stayed with LAMY
Lamy🔛🔝
Classic pen. Born in 1973 I used it in school. Several 30 years later my son learned writing with one of those. I still use a lamy at the office. ❤
Who was born in 1973 the pen or yourself 😊..
I got my first one in 1988. Still a favorite, and I didn’t know I could change the nib!
I would say Parker pers are pretty good for begginers aswel and are a bit less pricey but I would say Lami safari will be more reliable in terms of build quality for lasting long and stuff
I saw wheein and suddenly i'm selling a lung to buy like 20 of these
literally
One of these brought me all the way through secondary school (grades 5 through 12) and my graduation...
Still have it, still use it, still love to write with it
I learned to write with a Lamy as a kid. Old reliable.
I love mine. I use the iroshizuku ink too, Shin-Kai.
god their bottles and inks are so beautiful
Teachers in Germany generally recommend not to put the cap on the back (and the more “learner” variants of lamy fountain pens have stuff that prevents it)
The weight on the back makes the pen much less stable and unbalanced
Thanks for letting me know
Posting the cap has never felt right to me, but all the pen enthusiasts seem to love it. Nice to be validated hahaha
With the Lamy AL Star (with aluminum body) it's nearly impossible to write with the cap on the back in a comfortable way because the extra weight
A pen losing balance after being posted sounds like no fun 😒
😮well then, what the hell am I supposed to do with it?!
Bought it after watching this video. And I love every sentence i write with it😂
Hey, I'm genuinely so glad to hear you're liking the pen! Just out of curiosity, which nib thickness did you go with (fine, medium, extra fine, etc)?
@@theshoppingexpert I went with medium and fine.
For general writing I much prefer the fine. It feels like you're actually writing something. Has more texture (if that makes sense?) to it than medium. That scratchy sound is most satisfying.
But for signing documents and such I prefer the medium. It flows much more smoothly than the fine and littler chance of errors or tremors or the nib poking through that horribly thin paper that is common place.
I remember getting shit from my teachers for using the tripod grip, but it seems that I was right all along.
I don't like the triangle grip. For a start I am an artist, and therefore using a utensil in my hands needs to be able to be held in a variety of ways. When I write, I don't use the standard grip. Just because you believe in a "correct" way to hold a pin doesn't mean you should be forcing your way in to others
Have you used a fountain pen? You're pretty much not gonna be able to write at all if you're not holding it the "correct" way..
@@TheJohnLights yes I have and yes I can
@@TheJohnLights You're probably mistaking orientations of the nib with a way of holding the pen. I agree that the triangular grip is indeed rather distasteful. I use the proper grip, however, I would still prefer the grip section to be without any shapes, i.e. smooth.
That's what I was thinking. Does Jimi Hendrix hold his guitar like Paco De Lucia? etc...
@@TheJohnLightsNonsense.
As a moomoo i was surprised to see wheein here in the second clip about music videos. It made my day a bit better ❤
She appears twice 😂
I have two of those. Safari with the abs body and Alstar with aluminum body. Both are my favorites.😊
Jung wheein from mamamoo 😲 on the music video
I lived and went to school in Germany for five years between the ages of 12 to 17 (1989-1994).
That ink window was a great way to cheat by putting a tiny piece of paper with notes around the ink cartridge. By simply twisting the pieces apart, you could change what notes you saw.
I'm not a huge fan of cheating in general, but considering I was taking tests for Latin language into German less than a year after moving there, it was a life saver! 😅
I remember when I ordered the Muji aluminum fountain I was amazed by its smoothness and consistent lines especially its featherweight.
But one day I visited a Virgin Megastore and they had a LAMY booth and I tried the Safari for the first time and holy shit.. I finally understood where all the hype came from, must’ve been one of the smoothest pens I’ve ever used in my life. Unfortunately here in our country the safari is hard to get at MSRP, all shops up sell it so high it sometimes turns me away from buying it, but I’m hoping to get it soon.
I've always just bought old dipping pens. 🤷♀️ They have removable nibs of different sizes and made of stainless steel. They also force you to properly hold the pen. Also, it's much more fun to pull out a whole ink bottle to dip in and get various reactions from people around you.
Dipping pens? We don't use such newfangled items. Creativity and imagination only fly with feathers...
🌬️ 🪶📖
😉
It also writes really smoothly!
Sales employers LOVE this guy
ABS is generally not considered a good plastic for some parts of keyboards. In the keycaps, PBT is generally preferred as it is much more resistant to typing, and does not become shiny, smooth and sometimes sticky like what ABS does after using it for a long time. ABS is however a lot cheaper, a good set of PBT keycaps may cost you around £80.
Wait really? I've seen and used pretty damn good mechanical keyboards that had PBT keycaps and cost around $100 for the whole thing... I'm pretty sure I've also seen PBT keycap sets for like a quarter of that.
@@astra6640 I mean a good set, from something like PBTFans which are quite thick and durable.
Still, everyone loves GMK keycaps and those are famously made from ABS. And they're not exactly cheap either lol. Also PBT can look a little dusty in my opinion. Personally I kinda like POM like some of the Cherry keyboards use.
I'm a fountain pen collector and this is the only popular starter pen I don't have. I want to try it, but I have a very atypical grip, so I'm worried it'll be super uncomfortable. I do have a Pilot Kakuno which has a softer triangular grip which doesn't bother me, as well as a Pilot Vanishing Point, and the clip doesn't bother me even though I hold my thumb over the clip. Maybe I should try it still, I dunno.
For $20 that pen had better give me head on command
LMFAO
I'm not a pen, but $20 is $20
It’s worth the 20 bucks for sure. As much as I love the Sharpie gel pens I’d been using before, it really just doesn’t compare. If you like writing by hand a nice fountain pen is a worthwhile investment.
@@panickedshears ur art is rlly nice
@@Furious_Frost oh thanks :)
Imma stick with my pencil cuz it can write in zero gravity and also in the void.
I'm so glad I brought my pencil when I went to the void. Aved my bacon on numerous occasions.
One of my favorite pens. Not just fountain pen. It’s one of my favorite out of all the pen types.
Using the song “making water” for this short was genius.
If that "gold" can corrode it's not real gold.
When you pay $1000+ it's real gold.
Hmm, my phrasing could have been better. What I had meant was that stainless steel nibs *also* resisted corrosion like gold nibs, but I see how the structure of the sentence + using “not only” to start the sentence can make that less clear
Rewatch the video then
@@theshoppingexpertNo, Your words were clear.
His English was fine, he says. ’ resisted corrosion like gold nibs’
Yup. I bought one years ago. It's not the best at any one thing but it does everything very well and is well worth the price
The Martian music in the background goes so hard
It just feels so pleasant to use an overengineered everyday item
This isn’t over-engineered at all. These are all traits everyone is constantly wanting or trying to add to their fountain pens. This is a perfectly engineered piece.
@@ExhaustedScarfthey're being genuine but youre also right, its quite simple but the average person doesn't really care about these things. It's nice to have something that's designed by people who care about it.
@@hellohaveagoodday
I wasn’t worried that they weren’t being genuine, just responding because my opinion differs. I get that, though. I suppose everyone I know who uses fountain pens wants these features, but I don’t know about those who don’t use them. The friends I have who don’t ise fountain pens don’t know much about them, since they don’t use them.
It might have been a bit hyperbolic of me to say that “everyone is constantly trying to make their fountain pens have these features.”
You must live a very simple life if this is overengineering to you.
This made me put this on my Christmas list
Can't believe someone remembered about Gatchaman Crowds even if it's for a fountain pen vid
Can’t believe someone noticed it even if it was up there for just a split second! My friends were watching it while I was over at their place and I literally did the Leo x pointing meme when I saw it
@@theshoppingexpert I can't believe you read this comment or that you've actually seen Gatchaman crowds. But fun fact Lamy did an actual collab with Crowds to release a special edition lamy safari with gatchaman Crowds logos
Steel nibs have harsh writing experience but what Lamy useful is how sturdy it is. You can keep it unused for weeks and it will still write whereas other pens will refuse as jnk dries
Nah, Lamy's fine and EF may be a little bit feedbacky but try their Medium and Broad nibs.They are really quite smooth. And if you dont like the steel nib, Lamy also offers a 14K gold nib as a replacement.
So is that why I tried and hated it? I ended up liking Parker Vector the most, I still use it, and I also use Herlitz now and then.
Not all steel nibs are harsh, but what you're talking about is feedback, most likely.
This could be a result of numerous things (unaligned nib tines, the fineness of the nib, etc) and not just that the nib is steel. I've used some gold nibs that are more scratchy than certain steel nibs. It really just depends.
Being used by a high performance athlete is crazy
Gold does not get corroded because it is one of the least reactive metals in the reactivity series and it does not react with air or moisture easily. Gold does not get affected by oxygen and most acids. Gold is more stable than any other compounds such as sulfides or oxides.
Who asked?
@@大砲はピュWho asked for the Video? Still: Both are very interesting.
@@大砲はピュ He was probably referring to the part where the video mentioned of steel nibs in comparison to gold nibs. The sentence wasn't worded very clearly, leading some to take it as gold being "more" prone to corrosion than steel.
Background Music: The Martian OST 😂
Hahah I love you for noticing 🤜🤜 the scene where “Making Water” plays is one of my favorites
I've used them for over 20 years and they're amazing!
Dude took Belfort too seriously
Jokes on you, I have double shot PBT keycaps!
In India we have Many Fantastic Indigenous Manufacturer's. I was an person whom used Parker's, Schaeffers,Cross etc but after using indigenous brands I felt that I was an idiot. I Baught foreign crappy pens for high price and didn't buy Superior quality fountain pens that I had in India for fraction of its price.
There is so much rich man snobbery in fountain pens as a western market. I am a big fan of Jinhao ones from China, well made.
It's also really inexpensive considering that they make everything in house.
But the exklusiv lami ink isent realy inexpensive just get farber castell
@@rayaxy8285 What?
@@rayaxy8285 faber castell is more expensive and honestly just ugly
@@rayaxy8285 There are better inks out there
@@rayaxy8285 Faber Castell inks aren't the best. Montblanc or any other good brand should do the job.
I don't understand why this pen is so special. It's literally just a pen
Its an actually good fountain pen for a low price. That's special.
Made in Germany
You don't know what literally means.
@@HyenaEmpyema and you dont know that language evolves over time and that the word "literally" has transitioned to being used as an exaggeration of sorts.
"It's literally just a pen"
The "literally" is used as an amplifier of the fact that it's just a pen. Peace out
Funnily enough there is no “correct way to hold a pen” if it’s comfortable and writes then it’s correct
You’d catch me hold that thing the incorrect way and still getting it to work, because my adhd is stubborn like that.
I technically hold pens/pencils the “wrong way” (lateral quadrupod) but its how i’ve always done it, and unless I rush it my handwriting looks totally fine. All the others feel awkward
Also I have adhd as well lol
There is no "correct way" to hold a pen, do what is most comfortable for ypu
This
No there is, half the kids in my school complain about bad penmanship and then hold a pen like they're tryna stab the paper or smt
A cartridge variant was one of the standard models used at school during my elementary school days.