The Red Pyramid's strange inner sanctum
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- The Red Pyramid of Dahshur is the most commonly attributed monument for the burial of pharaoh Sneferu. A superficial look at the pyramid makes it appear to adopt classic mastaba defensive principles.
When taking a closer look at significant design features, the Red Pyramid seems to abandon the opportunity to be the most secure pyramid ever built. Instead, it's pyramid complex remains incomplete and the mystery of its 'hidden' upper chamber is laid bare.
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Keith Hamilton's guide to the Red Pyramid can be found here:
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Eratta: The Bent Pyramid has a longer descending corridor, but being fractured it couldn't be plugged as much.
0:00 Intro
1:28 Red Pyramid nickname
2:02 Snefru's 3 pyramids
3:05 Tomb security
3:55 [correction] 2nd longest corridor
4:20 Pyramid entrance
5:24 Descending corridor plugging?
6:16 Locating the upper chamber
7:34 Upper corridor ceiling
9:36 No camouflage evidence
10:37 Upper floor excavation
13:39 Search for burials
I'd love it if it turned out that the upper chamber floor and the corridor to it were intentionally left that way by the builders to make it look like it had already been looted if any looting party came and attempted to loot it. Would be interesting to see if muon tomography reveals any hidden chambers in the future.
I like the way you think!
The back wall of last chamber above the " conspicuously dark stone" could be a lintel ?
Ancient architect did a vid on it. The looters may have been close but dug the wrong direction?
I have often thought it would be very clever if the builders built the ‘kings chamber’ and deliberately left it empty to make looters think they were not the first in. And that suspicious non load bearing block right next to the sarcophagus NEEDS investigated asap. Some muon detection of that wall would show up any passages behind it. Maybe they’ll look in the next 30 years.
Its hard to say. The Red Pyramid was built during the Fourth Dynasty, ancient Egypt's 'golden age' and the Kingdom was already hundreds of years old at that time. It would have been exceedingly difficult for contemporary Egyptians to imagine a future without the kingdom intact and so security measures were surely seen from a different perspective while planning the construction of the pyramids.
Also, Ötzi (the iceman) who lived in the Alps region of Europe at about the same time as the founding of the early Egyptian kingdom had the curious feature of his shoes being made of deer skin leather for the uppers and bear skin leather for the soles, which is confusing because bear skin is much thinner than deer skin. It would have made more sense to make the soles with the deer skin and the upper with bear skin.
It just shows that humans thought about things differently back then, (what made sense to them makes no sense to us, today).
We can only guess as to what thought process' the Egyptians used to make decisions, but one thing for certain, we would have had a hard time understanding those decisions.
It was used to mass produce chemicals. Go watch land of chem if u want ur mind blown…
I get the impression that there was some sort of megalithic structure already there, and they considered it sacred - so they built the pyramid on top, preserving the old rocks underneath (hence such a sharp contrast)
I actually visited that pyramid in May 2021. I was shocked that there was absolutely nobody there except 1 guard at the door. I went down there alone (my guide stayed out) and the tunnel had no lights. Climbing down there alone with only my phone flash was a horribly uncomfortable experience, and I couldn’t wait to get out of there.
I think they have lights now.
I think that is so cool you were able to do that but yeah it definitely sounds spooky by yourself with just a phone flashlight. 😀
better bring a buddy next time hahaha, id be shoock if the guide didnt want to go with me and i had to go alone, but still must have been a unique experience.
That's odd, I was there in June 2019, also having the pyramid all to myself for hours without a guide, but it was fully, fairly well lit. Definitely a perplexing place, enjoyable to explore. In June, one gets to have many ruins to oneself, even only 3 or 4 people inside the great pyramid. It was low, low season, I travelled everywhere seeing everything. Ancient humanity was a different breed than us, obviously knowing something critically important about Earth and Nature we've forgotten about. To explore all the ruins of Egypt is to feel like an ant looking at a castle and wondering, standing in the shadow of perfectionist giants that mysteriously aren't around but still ominously dominate.
Yeah. Must have been very spooky/ unsettling with only the cell's flashlight. Most speleologists recommend 2 or 3 alternate light sources. I would have been somewhat more prepared, because I almost always carry a small tactical flashlight.
@Christopher Perry exactly, these are the real questions. How did they work the internal tunnels to perfection without any light to see??
I just want to say thank you for not being conspiracy focused. I really appreciate your alternative thinking, how you have a hypothesis and ideas worth exploring without turning it into power cables too great for just lighting and covert exploration with loud machines digging... like another YT channel.
I agree, tho his language in some places keeps me on edge. Maybe i'm oversensitive to terms like "megalithic" and "mainstream egyptology" which are usually used by conspiracy nutcracks but so far he's proved to be very reliable.
@@kacperwoch4368 Megalithic just means old monuments made of large stone. And mainstream Egyptology has been proven wrong in many many instances. I’m not a conspiracy theorist nut either but that doesn’t mean you should believe everything “mainstream Egyptology” tells you is fact. Like the old jars found under the steppe pyramid. They just don’t know everything and fill it in with guesses and call it “mainstream Egyptology”. They are afraid to say “we just don’t know.”
@@kacperwoch4368 There's good reason to talk about "mainstream egyptology" It's a handful of people with absolute control of the narrative who have made up their minds about ancient egypt and give very minimal proof for their claims. Many times they just say "trust me bro". In one case about the Sphinx we're still waiting for "evidence" to be published from the 1980s. Every single time they get asked they say "Soon."
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These videos contain a rare depth of insight and common sense. Well done.
Nothing compares to Egypt in human history. I'd love to time travel there and see it in all it's glory. Great video/
In terms of scale maybe but otherwise India beats it like a rented mule. Not that I wouldn't sell my children to organ dealers for a seat in that time machine though.
Same here. Would love to go to the golden age of every civilization to ever exist to get a peak at what it was like to be alive in those times.
Thats not necessarily true.
@@lostpony4885 it is an opinion. a subjective statement
If you've never being to Egypt, my advice go and then go again because they is so much to see you cart possibly see everything in 2 week,I spent 1mth there cruise in down the nile and still missed loads
Just finished up watching this video! I watched all of them starting with the oldest.
I really appreciate how you follow the clues and come up with well reasoned theories and/or conclusions!
Matt from Ancient Architects sent me here and now I look forward to your next video 👍👍
You binged them all? That’s fantastic!
@@HistoryforGRANITE Yep, and I learned some new things that nobody had brought up before!
@@HistoryforGRANITE I will do so too!... So interesting,and one mystery goes to one other, and my daughter is fan of french egyptology, we have a lot of books here, so I will digg myself, not in the king's chambers, but in that library. Great channel and Matt sent me here too, I don't regret!🙏💚🧡
Have you checked 3-minute "Egyptian Pyramids Start Making Sense" disclosing functionality and technology of Red Pyramid?
Unfortunately clickbait alien voodoo crap magic nonsense tends to get the views. This channel is a beacon of logic in a sea of nonsense.
Can't get enough of this superb content! Thank you!
It would be nice to see a video of your take on the suspicious blocks in the kings chamber, and the ‘window’ part way up the queens chamber northern shaft, and what you think about the possibilities of these anomalies. ?
Your channel and ancient architects are my favorites
Another amazing video. Always shows us something different than the rest. Thank you
Great job as always! Very interesting and educational!
Another greatly interesting video, on an intriguing mystery. Please keep going!
I love this channel!!!
Me too!
me too !
I love your enthusiasm!
Thank you! I love your videos, as I am fascinated by ancient Egypt. Keep up the great work
Awesome video mate. keep them up! I love your approach and your perspective ☺️
Awesome video with some great insight on this. Really enjoy your content thanks
History is often told in stone.
I like your channel and the insights and conclusions you draw.
I was lucky enough on my honeymoon in 2011 to go inside the red pyramid and even into the floating burial chamber. it was and awesome experience. we also wanted to do the bent pyramid but it was still closed at that time. plz do an episode on the black pyramid plz as that one always interested me and I know little about it. cheers
Thank you for such great videos!
Outstanding as always my friend 👍
Another great and interesting video. Thank you, good sir! ❤
Many thanks!
I found the modern "red" pyramid absolutely fascinating with the comparisons you drew with the two larger ones, and the other two supposedly by the same pharaoh. Thank you -- just brilliant analysis!
Thank you. I cannot get enough information on egyptian history. I have been fascinated since i was a small child. Just from a school library book. I would like to visit the pyramids again, since they have excavated so much more. Altho we visited the valley of the kings many times, we still didnt get to see many tombs because they always seemed to open mostly the same ones.
the question remains... if the looters dug out another course to remove the larger items, how did they get them in to begin with ?
My back really hated me after getting out of this one. :-) The corridor is really long. To me, this is the best pyramid I've been to. And I've been to Khufu as well.
Perfect video, as always! Keep up the good work👍🏻
Much appreciated!
Another great video. Thank you so much!
I love your videos, been waiting for a new one, hope you're all good and in production :)
Thank you! Yes I’ve been writing a lot - and the next video is recorded. I’ve got a special in the works that will be an hour long or more, might do a live premiere for it. It might be fun to do a live Q&A after with some special guests…
@@HistoryforGRANITE That sounds AWESOME!!! Thanks for the update dude.
The Bent Pyramid is also the only pyramid with 2 entrances and 2 separate internal passages. The idea that this pyramid is bent as a means of reducing weight on the unstable bottom section is imo ridiculous. The fact that this supposedly defective pyramid was, first of all completed and secondly still standing, throws a large spanner into this theory.
There is a duality to the Bent Pyramid’s interior that is also evident in the bend and second entrance that is not seen in any other Egyptian pyramid. And it was clearly never intended to be a tomb.
Form und Funktion stehen im Zusammenhang, nichts bei den Pyramiden war misslungen. Ein paar aufgeschlossene Techniker könnten das Ganze recht gut erklären.
@@hansburch3700 More than a few open-minded technicians have tried to explain it. Religious artefacts are rarely designed with mechanical functions in mind.
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This is very kind, thank you so much. Lots of great stuff to come.
Really enjoying your series
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Thankyou History for Granite!
My mind is blown everytime I see more videos like this!
I was in this pyramid some years ago.The steep narrow ascent is an effort but what an experiance.
I subscribe to the idea that none were used as burial but as places of ceremony or ritual.
Bam! Exactly what I've been thinking. Kings probably thought keeping subjects busy was a good thing so make some for the subjects. A person dies and is brought to a pyramid for some kind of ritual. Who knows what but it would be used in turns. Maybe bring the dead there after X days. Fam takes them to inner room. Leaves them in it overnight. Comes back and takes the dead out. Next day another fam with someone dead does the same thing. Years later it was people stopped doing it and looters thought it's just another kings tomb. From what I seen the security in some of them was very weak. Why make it weak with all that work? Unless it was not security at all. Who knows. I just think at least on of the pyramids was the peoples pyramid.
I always learn something new with your videos.
Another excellent video. Thanks!
Bravo! Fine Analysis! And, PS: I really learned something about Pyramid construction. Thank you.
14:10 "Unless the looting party who made this excavation was the dumbest of all time"
I have seen it with my own eyes. A crew of 5 man dig 4 deep meters hole in the middle of the wood - because they were having a feeling, and because the place is having stories of holding a treasure.
You really underestimate people on the hunt of treasures. It's actually more likely whoever enlarge the upper corridor have nothing to do with whoever dig that hole. Two different groups.
Yes, I think a lot of things can be attributed to stubbornness or, given how long the Pyramids have been there, the passage of time has obscured how many people were there and what they were doing. It's easy for me to think that one group cleared out the burial chamber (if it was a burial chamber at all), then another group made a probe hole in the floor and gave up after finding nothing. Then years, decades, or even centuries later another group dug out more of the floor thinking the previous looters just didn't look hard enough. And then the next group thought "well there's a hole in the floor, something has GOT to be down there, and they dug further, and so on. There could have been a hundred different looting parties over the course of time, we just don't know.
Awesome video. I have already watched this video multiple times :)
Excellent video. Thank you.
12:32 what a good point, as well as the "the looters would have made a small hole to research". As a former urban explorer (urbex), I know of several separate occasions where the "small hole" approach was used for infiltration, there's no real need to make a grandiose entrance if your primary objective is to get from underground room A to underground room B.
id love to hear your explanation/teachings of how mastava were protected by various means of security. very intriguing
Great job again.
Another very insightful vid. You da man. Always looking forward to your new posts. Keep up the awesome work 👍👍👍
Comments like these are great encouragement!
@@HistoryforGRANITE my pleasure. Your work is unique and I thoroughly enjoy each new post
So my only question is why would they not use the pyramid after putting so much effort into building it? If it was not used for burial, then what would it have been used for? Absolutely love your videos, I am learning SO much! Thank you for all the effort you put into these videos, they are absolutely excellent!
The excavation of the floor is the result of the age-old looters prank:
Robber 1"accidentally" drops his prying stick and exclaims surprised "You hear that? The floor is hollow!"
Robber 2, conspirator, shouts "He is RIGHT, the floor DOES sound hollow.
Others, hearing nothing special, but frustrated of not finding a spec of gold, start to think "Well if THEY hear it..."
Not much later robber 1&2 disappear into the night with the camels and personal possessions of their fellow-looters..
Great channel!! Excellent!!
Bravo great work as always
I completely agree with your skepticism about Sneferu's intent to use all of these as a burial place and growing dissatisfied with each. It would appear that it took most of the Kingdom's surplus resources to build one pyramid; and I think three by one Pharaoh for the same purpose doesn't make sense. There has to be a better explanation.
Maybe he was super paranoid about having his tomb robbed and willing to take extreme precautions to protect it, up to and including building decoy pyramids.
Have you looked into The Land of Chem’s theory about the pyramids being plants to make basic chemicals, like the red pyramid being used to make aqueous ammonia as a basis for fertilitzer for crops?
All your videos are great 👍
Love to see more on the other pyramids of Egypt. Lots of stuff about Giza, but not a lot about the other ones on you tube.
At 12:17 when you see the person in the video showing the size of the blocks excavated and massiviness of the burial chamber I could better understand the scale of this room. Another great video. Thanks for sharing.
The pulley holes are not contemporary with the structure
Why would you say this? It would have been fairly impossible for robbers to have made them. And we see them in other pyramids that were originally used to hold floors and lift stones.
Great video and great channel.
Your quote - only the stones can reveal! Wow! So true! I have spent 50 years studying Stonehenge - the people who built Stonehenge knew as long as the stones remained - the information would be carried. It is Written in Stone!
The "restoration" works in modern times renders Stonehenge an unsolvable mystery, it's literally impossible to know what the original builders had in mind.
I speculate just because pyramids might have been used as tombs, it doesn't necessarily mean they were built for that purpose.
Pharaohs might have inherited pyramids built for another purpose, and being impressed by them, converted them into tombs for their own use.
Also, if pyramids were originally built for another purpose, they might have utilized internal furnishings made from valuable materials which
were then looted. One of many possibilities
It also appears to me that these monuments were glorious tourist attractions, initially. Maybe someday Mount Rushmore might become a political burial chamber as well (but hopefully not suffer the same pseudo-science fate).
No. Pyramids were sealed and were only forced open by looters in most recent times. I bet there was no way any pharaoh would figure an easy way in due to the constraction technic applied to the entrances. They didnt even know were the secret entrance was unless they were the builders themselves. In conclusion, whoever built them had onnly one purpose in mind.
Excellent, unbiased view as always. High quality :)
Thanks for the nice words!
Great video loved hearing this 👌
Thank you and Kudos for your professionalism - History for Granite is probably the best and most informative YT channel I have come across concerning ancient Egyptian pyramids. When it comes to presenting sensible and credible hypothesis, I think mainstream Egyptologists could definitely learn a thing or two from you!
When you consider that all three pyramids are attributed to one reign and that they are all different, you could almost imagine they were models, or the results of a competition.
Or different size power stations like energy companies
all 3 are fails...he lost competition...the level of egoism to build that is just worst of a human state of mind,whole community put so much efford and resorces for one men deluded sickness which gived nothing in return we shouldnt said his name ever never...all pyramids are workers monuments not deepshits tomb they didnt help build cause they were bizzy soaking in blood of a calf goat
I agree, different building families (companies). Someone telling the pyramid he as all these new systems that are better than the old system. Then fails to deliver a satisfactory outcome.
I think its probably more likely that all of them had a different purpose beforehand. this makes more sense to me. for example (and hypothetically) this pyramid is for my mother >this one is for my wife> and the most magnificent one of all is for ME.
"build me three tombs on sacred ground and I see which one Iike best and discard the rest" seems like a dubious thought process.
alternatively.. if they were build one after the other cause the previous one got compromised in some way that could make some sense.
@@dco1019 except they have never found a mummy in any pyramid... They aren't tombs, it's just typical that when archeologists do not know, they call it a tomb..
How it really went down in Dashur...
One pyramid says to the other "You received maximum plugging."
The other pyramid turns red from embarrassment and says "No I didn't. Get bent."
I think this is the solution.
Good stuff, man!
Thank you for your videos. I learn a little more on every one.
Great video! Thank you!
A couple of questions and thoughts come to mind:
The so called "pulley holes"; what evidence is there that they were an original detail? Could they not have been created by the tomb raiders to help the removal of whatever they were removing?
Why would they remove the lower section of the inner entrance tunnel? To just remove the blocks from the floor of the "burial" chamber? What would be the point of that? Could they not have spent the time just breaking up the floor blocks in the chamber and then removing them if they needed the space? Could it be that there was a sarcophagus built into the floor and they needed to dig up the floor to remove it? I think I've seen examples where there is a locking mechanism for the sarcophagus built into the walls/floor, even sarcophagus built into the floor a little bit. Could that be what the grooves in the east/west walls are for? I noticed that the groove on (I think) the east wall looked like it had been chiselled out, perhaps to aid in the unlocking?
Could that be the reason for the enlarging of the entrance tunnel, to remove the large sarcophagus and lower it to the floor of the lower chamber (using the freshly created pulley system) to then break it up to take up the entrance tunnel.
Hmm, but if that was the case, why not just break it up in the burial chamber. I guess it's the same issue as enlarging the tunnel to remove the floor blocks.
Anyway, fantastic series of videos and I can't wait for the next one! :)
Thank you again!
The pulley notches are inaccessible without some major scaffolding. Seems like by that point you wouldn't need them to get objects down. There are similar pulley logs in the Meidum pyramid, and it would be quite a coincidence for both to be later additions.
hindsight is 20/20
@@GroberWeisenstein that’s the wrong analogy for the unknown history of others.
Good questions and observations. I am wondering also where are the dug up stones from the floor..no need to carry or pull them out from the pyramid? They should be on the bottom of the second chamber. And think about the logistics of the looting crew, food, water, lightning (torches i guess, is there soot in ceilings?). I mean the work needed to make that destruction is enormous in that limited space and with primitive(?) tools.
@@lfvett725 He covered that in the video. The stones were probably thrown down from above and broke on hitting the bottom. Later Egyptologists had no trouble removing the rubble of broken stones.
When I was in Egypt on tour with Ben last year (Uncharted X) I was checking the east west alignment of the Red and the Bent pyramid with a compass app on my phone, the Red pyramid is 6 degrees off, and the Bent pyramid is true east west. To me, it indicates they were built at vastly different times, the Red being older and true north was different then. Even now we see the magnetic north pole on the move, and it's affecting travel that depends on its location. It appears the Bent pyramid was a later copy, and internally, it is very crude, made with a lesser talented labor pool. Granted a cell phone app perhaps isn't the best tool for the job, but that's the results I got.
all those pyramids' orientation have been carefully measured by researchers, Red Pyramid's north orientation is only off by 5'(0.08 degree), slightly worse than the Great Pyramid(0.05 degree), but still is one of the best among all pyramids.
The north orientations of those mega structures are remarkably accurate, even in today's standard. A true engineering marvel.
you can see academic paper here:arxiv.org/vc/arxiv/papers/1302/1302.5622v1.pdf
Wow - my phone wasn't off significantly. Amazing. What about the bent pyramid? Is it off or on?
@@summerbreeze50 What my cell phone showed was there was a difference in orientation - and your link validates that:
Dashur, south
(‘Bent Pyramid’)
Snefru 2613-2589 -0° 12!±2! Belmonte 2001: S2
-0° 12!±2! Belmonte 2001: S2
Dashur, north
(‘Red Pyramid’)
Snefru 2613-2589 -0° 5´ 0' Isler 2001: 158. Measured
by Joseph Dorner
Ben has no idea about masonry techniques and hard work. He thinks they had special technologies LOL.
Excellent analysis!
another interesting video, keep up the good work.
I will!
Another great video! Amazing work! How do you find such details? I am curious about your approach, you probably have some background in engineering/architecture. For example, I would never see the ceiling stone details of the tunnel towards the chamber (I am taking it for granite haha). I like how you give respect to mainstream egyptology too while still keeping reasonable critical thinking, unlike other channels that dwell very deep into conspiracies. I actually find this kind of research very interesting.
I loved exploring this pyramid wen I was in Egypt,it's beautifully made, the burial chamber is a fake, they is a different colour blocking stone that looks like it's leads to another chamber,
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Interesting video, but why would the robbers dig deep into floor of the upper chamber to look for a potential burial chamber as opposed to all the other places they could have dug though? I don't see why not finding a burial would make the robbers choose this single place to attack over other possible locations of a hidden burial chamber. Maybe there was something about the floor that seemed suspicious to the robbers, but if that was the case then they would probably dig up the floor even if they did find a burial in the upper chamber.
I will say I am open to the possibility that Sneferu was not buried in the red pyramid. I think it's possible that he had always planned to build both the bent and red pyramid, and could have chosen the bent pyramid for his burial. I don't think we can rule out a red pyramid burial based on the hole in the upper chamber though.
The back upper chamber would follow the same trend as the burial chamber location for the other pyramids, so it could've convinced the robbers they were in the right location. Perhaps the floor was ripped out in desperation since it *was* higher up than the others.
If I'm understanding your comment correctly ,they made the passage larger in order to push the excavated material (large blocks) through it and into the lower hallway where it will hopefully smash onto the floor.
This doesn't seem right to me ,excavating that tunnel alone took a lot of work wouldn't it be easier to leave the tunnel alone and break up the stones in the chamber before removal? Why do they need to drop them onto the floor when the enlarged tunnel shows they have the skill to break through rock.
Also I'm not sure that the stones would be broken up from the fall,if you are lucky one might break in half.
Not that I have any better theory's,as usual nothing makes sense with the pyramids.
Generally speaking, the pyramids themselves show Egyptians preferred to move larger blocks rather than chisel them down for easier transport.
@@HistoryforGRANITE But they would have to chisel them down anyway once they hit the floor,I don't think they would smash into pieces upon impact.
Although that leads onto another point,why even bother removing the debris after it's landed onto the floor? There seems to be plenty of space there to start to form a ramp with the waste
And how would you safely drop debris from the top without taking out the scaffold? Unless they used a ladder which they retracted once in the room.
@@ThePolicenaut It wasn’t the looters removing the stones out of the pyramid. That probably occurred many centuries later around the 26th Dynasty.
@@HistoryforGRANITE I must have completely misunderstood , who excavated the floor and who excavated the tunnel ? Or are you saying each of those happened at different periods? Il have to watch the video again.
@@ThePolicenaut I know your comment was from two months ago but allow me to answer your question. Or at least try to. But I believe the looters were the ones that made the tunnel larger. So they could physically remove the burial treasures. Once the tunnel was big enough they could remove what they were trying to steal.
GREAT VIDEO!
Great video
Thank you, so could it be that these pyramids are isolation chambers where a high priest or pharaoh goes to meditate or some such. Sheltered from the prying gaze of the heavens. Isolated from the moon and sun and stars they are released to consider the subterranean gods / underworld and to bask in their influence. Did purpose commence with the esoteric and progress to burial (if at all) as the millennia progressed?
And to have maybe a kip in a big stone box after a steep climb ?!! There are buildings outside these pyramids which add to the solution of what the big buildings were for . None look like chemical or electrical stations , no , they are religious in intent ......
You should do a video about the proposed hidden chambers behind the wall of the kings chamber in the great pyramid. You probably know the theory that there may be two antechambers, similar to the red pyramids, behind a stone which seemingly doesnt support any weight in the kings chamber.
Yes, I'll definitely be talking about that in future videos!
@@HistoryforGRANITE I was thinking the same when I watched this new video! I wonder why investigation of this supposed hidden tunnel right next to the khufu sarcophagus was never done. I know that s few times drilling was allowed in the great pyramid in the past, but not on that spot. Or was there an attempt? It will be the greatest discovery if another untouched chamber lies hidden in the great pyramid!
Me too but I feel like Ancient Architects did a thorough investigation with that subject, unless we can get hands on new info
Nothing shows in the muons. Pay attention to the science.
@@scottzema3103 Maybe the big void is the thing i'm refering to, i'm all for science for sure!
Nice work!
Interesting! If looters dug into the floor looking for a burial chamber, that implies they thought it was a tomb, so if it wasn’t, then that knowledge was lost before the looting, so it would have to have been a long time between construction and the first looting. I’m not sure what the timeline is thought to be.
Bear in mind the builders would be long gone and the layouts would be forgotten. They probably thought there was untold jewels and gold under that next, in-the-way piece of stone. Probably within a generation or two the detail is lost
@@juniorballs6025 Sure, I was more thinking, would they still know what the building was basically for-e.g., tomb vs temple vs some other specific use. Probably only in the tomb case would you expect riches to be left behind hidden.
@@jeffclites743 I'm sure they would have, there would have been myths and legends surrounding them, but how accurate they were is anyone's guess I suppose. Fascinating to think about 👍
I find I'm a little sceptical of the architectural emphasis placed on defending from looters... that seems to undermine the status of the Pharaohs, to me, suggesting that they felt their timeless legacy was threatened by every bod with a pickaxe. I find it hard to believe that the sites were not, firstly, guarded and, secondly, it would surely be considered a traitorous act to even consider looting them. The Pharaohs hiding like otherwise defenceless victims from robbers... it just doesn't seem "kingly" to me. So, I would personally see the portcullis' and plugging blockages as rather more ceremonial acts i.e. creating a silent place where the Pharaohs rested undisturbed through time from the trivialities of the living world... rather than expressions of fear of looters etc.
Obviously, pure conjecture, but the other, to my eye, seems to entirely contradict the Pharaoh's dominion and Godlike status.
Well, we know some tombs were robbed very quickly after they were sealed. The quest for treasure overrode any respect for the Pharoahs.
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Great stuff.
Love this stuff. I'm still waiting for someone to explain how they move such large stones to such a height.
if they explained it to you would you accept it? and how would you know if their explanation was correct? unless, you already knew how it was done in which case why would you seek an explanation?
@@GroberWeisenstein Yep, its been explained in 3 or 4 complete working theories, but still none are really accepted 100%, as history is never completely known.
@@mokiloke who is in a position to accept or deny it unless they know for sure ? Precedence servings as examples are the only surefire way to arrive at solid ground in understanding these otherwise conceptual arguments.. Tried and true.
@@GroberWeisenstein Exactly. There likely will never be any absolute explanations for many things from ancient history, we can only propose rational theories. Also we can barely agree on recent history, so ancient history thats another ballgame.
@@mokiloke fortunately, we have photos, illustrations, records, analogous works, and legacy trade knowledge in circulation. The problem for the most part is the general population wanting simple answers to what was and still is a very specialized and complex trade. Not easy to understand from a layman's perspective.
great video (as usual^^) if he built 3 pyramids, i would be interested to know how much (unlimited) money/gold Sneferu must have had 😉
Egypt had plenty of food. It's possible the workers were paid in food.
I once read, long time ago, that ancient Egyptian workers were paid with onions and garlic and maybe salt ...
So interesting! I hope you are going to do one one the Bent Pyramid-my favorite of all the Pyramids.
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This is a very good and interesting channel, Can't wait for more video! Btw, can you talk about the sphinx and it's mysteries?
I must admit I don't find the Sphinx as interesting as the pyramids, but perhaps I can fit it in to a future video.
@@HistoryforGRANITE so you don’t think there’s any granite in the Sphinx?
@@agelesswarrior9100 Just a bunch of gold, gems and ancient texts inside, nothing of interest really.
I feel like these videos would benefit from a bit of a stronger and more explanatory conclusion. By the end of this one, I was confused about what exactly you were implying and I feel like whatever conclusion was obvious to you totally went over my head since your channel is my first exposure to Egyptology outside of high school level "history" books. This stuff is really interesting, but I just don't really get what this all means unless you directly tell me. I'm sure other Egyptology nerds appreciate the evidence you put here to support your hypotheses, but to me they're just cool rocks right now, so some additional layman's explanation of what your hypothesis is and how you arrived there at the end of the video would leave me less confused lol. I love the videos, but sometimes they're just a little too opaque to me. Thanks.
they all reach a similar plateau and predicament since their knowledge and recycling of old logic has constraints.
Es ist schon längst klar, dass die Pyramiden Maschinen sind, jeder Seismologe mit ein paar Technikern könnte vieles rekonstruieren um die Funktion zu verstehen. Andere Erklärungen sind schon längst überholt!
A lot of people like to see a video like this wrapped up into a nice conclusion at the end, but that is often not possible. Until we have further insights or knowledge about the pyramids that uncertainty is the best perspective.
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 I don't need answers, I need a less dense explanation of the facts and to be led by the hand through the facts. I'm not an archeologist, this is my first time learning anything deep about Egyptology. I am a layman in this field and I am saying that the video was inscrutable to me. I have a background in physics, so videos going into detail about quantum mechanics are fine for me, but he just needs to explain more of, like, what certain stones or internal layouts actually mean to him versus, "letting the viewer come to their own conclusion," cause the conclusion I came to was, "this doesn't mean anything to me."
@@tech2tiger Thanks for explaining your perspective more completely. I get your point too as I have noticed this channel is long on descriptions of what is seen, but not as much on interpretation.
If supposed looters dug out a corridor to remove items, how did the funeral directors get those items into the chamber in the first place? 🤔
Certain objects could be placed inside the chamber as the Pyramid is being constructed, perhaps when the top of the pyramid is level with the floor of the chamber, before the walls were built.
@@JoelRSmith It’s certainly plausible, I wonder if a King would want his grave goods sitting in a half finished pyramid for X amount of years until their death though
to answer your question about how the items would get into the chamber in the first place.... Said items were built within the chamber. After all he is or was the king so he'd have his people bring the materials and build whatever it was he was going to take with him to the afterlife. Just an idea
@@philmccracken2012 For King Tut's tomb, chariots, beds and other items were disassembled and placed inside.
Once again, a suberb video. 👌👍
History for granite is the most satisfying and detailed pyramid series ever. The best carbon dating only pushes the time line back a few centuries. The building capabilities are still unexplainable. Cutting, placing and hoisting the corbelling stones are perfect. What was the light source for tunnel workers, where's the soot from torches, air depletion from torches. Frustrating!
Very good and informative, as always. But to me it just highlights how there is scant evidence that any of the Egyptian pyramids were royal tombs. The objections raised here would seem applicable to the others as well. Why use the same layout on all of them? Why explicitly advertise the entrances? Why not fill all of the corridors with granite blocks? We have to presume that the pyramid-builders were behaving rationally, so why would they make these rather obvious mistakes? To me it seems that a more realistic interpretation of the physical evidence is that the builders wanted to allow access to the various chambers, but also wanted to make such access difficult, and wanted to protect against unauthorized access. Or perhaps wanted to allow access to something stored within them, but not its removal. A rather straightforward analogy would be a bank vault: strong defenses, but no attempt to disguise it, or prevent orderly access.
These are excellent questions and observations. We'll definitely be talking about this more.
I’m struggling to wrap my head around how anyone could be stupid enough to think they’re anything other than tombs.
@@Whiteyy191 Simply because there were never any bodies discovered in some of them and no clues left that there ever was any.
There were no sarcophaguses found in any of the pyramids at Giza.
@@wichitadisciple9874 Yeah…because they’re 5,000 years old and were stripped bare by looters between them and now. Any other mysteries you need solved?
@@Whiteyy191 yeah, Jimmy Hoffa. Where is he at buddy?!?!
Please sir, can we ahve some more?
Sooner than you think! ;)
@@HistoryforGRANITE That's good, cause your work is top shelf. Thanks for this high quality, actual research presentations.
I really like this channel!
Thank you!
Keep em coming
I think this is the Pyramid that Flinders Petrie entered in the 19th century, and was met by a pack of hyenas coming up the shaft.
Imagine how scary that would have been, when he only had an oil lamp!
Petrie never made it into the upper chamber of the Red Pyramid. A great example of how difficult it would be if you were unprepared and constrained on time.
Im sorry but there is no way Sneferu built 3 pyramids
Why not?He was a hot guy!
I think he personally built them all. With his bare hands.
Game over for Tesla!
You’re right he didn’t, I say that because if anyone alive in this generation of humanity and I don’t mean short term, I’m talking in terms of thousands of years would’ve plastered their name ALL OVER that thing… I know I would’ve and so would you have, the fact of the matter is that we will never know who what when or how they were built until we meet our maker and ask these age old questions face to face…
The person hosting this RUclips channel is under educated and has absolutely no idea what they’re talking about.
Interesting info
I realize that you must keep some semblance of contemporary egyptology in your videos in order to maintain access to material and keep your website up but all of these pyramids have obvious industrial internal architecture incorperated in them. Thank you for the great video and still pictures of the internals. Keep up the great work!
According to our modern eyes
Those three pyramids are very strange. It doesn’t seem possible that they were all built during Sneferu’s reign, but I wouldn’t be too surprised if it were so.