I remember the Sunday two hour movie but I don’t recall the Dorothy Lyman introduction to this at all. I graduated HS in June of 83’ when this premiered. Such a long time ago. I miss the 80’s.
@DAJ Well I still have the original 2 hour movie to the somewhat forgotten General Hospital spinoff Port Charles which aired on June 1, 1997 with original commercials intact and recorded in SP mode! I was able to transfer it to DVD but of course it does show it's age despite being recorded in SP mode, as tv's weren't in High Defination yet! Still I'm happy with it!
This was a nice synopsis / introduction of the first episode. I watched Loving sporadically. Didn't know Dorothy Lyman did this special. Thx for the upload.
I loved it how ABC used to usher their new daytime soaps as Sunday Night Movie specials the day before they premiered in their regular timeslots. I believe this aired the following day in its regular timeslot and the first real timeslot episode premiered the following day on Tuesday June 28th, 1983.
❤ Beautiful Corinth, Pennsylvania. I watched Loving from beginning to end. 83-95....it morphed into the City for 2 more years. Retro day time tv watching in coastal Mississippi 👋🤠🐻
@draperscott7698 what happened then? I just watched the movie and now watching this. Such a strong opening! Leaps and bounds over bold and the beautifuls. Watching that via RUclips and can't understand how it's number 2 in the ratings.
Dorothy Lyman played Gwen frame on another world as well as appearing on the soap operas all my children generations and guiding light . before those soaps I read that she appeared on one life to live back in the 70s as a nun . That probably was her very first soap followed by AW. Then those other soaps which she would appear on in that order. I never knew that Ann Williams had passed until someone here on the comment board had brought it up .loved her on search for tomorrow. all of the NBC and CBS daytime soaps were my Main focus the ABC soaps came much later by the late 80s I've watched all of them though past and present so technically the ABC shows came into my life in the mid 80s I remember watching the final years of the edge of night I still remember when Jerry pulled a Micheal Myers and wound up killing his own sister Alicia who was the shows villainous at the finale of that show..such great memories of the soaps back in the 80s and now Lorna is playing Diane again on the young and the restless the only soap out of the four remaining soaps that I can tolerate although iam getting a little used to general hospital . As for the other two um no way Jose. I will take both general hospital and the young and the restless any day there is a good reason why the latter is still #1 in the ratings after all of these years. Ryan's hope loving and one life to live and general hospital were ABC much better shows GH can be a little so so at times but the other three were the better ones besides edge. I don't care what anybody says it should be loving that should've been ABC sole surviving soap IMO
From the first look at him, you knew that Garth Slater was someone to dislike at sight first. His venom towards poor June was distinct. And we all knew it. For Ann Williams, it would be, sadly, her last soap role. For she'd die in 1985, of cancer. This soap allowed her to reunite with John Cunningham, whom she knew from Search for Tomorrow (he played Wade Collins, one of Janet Bergman's husbands, and she played Jo's sister, Eunice). This show had a treasure trove of talent in the early years. Teri Keane (Edge of Night), Wesley Addy, Augusta Dabney (Young Doctor Malone), Tom Ligon (Young and Restless), Pamela Blair (Annie, the movie), John Shearin (The Doctors) Bryan Cranston (Breaking Bad) among various others.
ABC and Proctor & Gamble bumped heads in the mid 80s because even though and correct me if I'm wrong, the edge of night was the only Procter & Gamble soap that has aired on the alphabet network ABC wanted to take over the copyrights of the show and proctor & gamble were not having it. The ratings were beginning to drop, and was running out of sponsors if you notice when watching the opening credits of the edge of night when it was aired on ABC at the end of those opening credits from 1980-1984, there was always a sponsor so long story short ABC was forced to cancel the show which edge went offon December 28, 1984 I thought it was very sad because I loved watching the show on ABC
@@MarcasJohnson, ABC cancelled the show at the end of 1984 after it became apparent that even more affiliate stations were going to drop Edge at the beginning of 1985, which would have led to even lower ratings. Afflilate clearance issues were a problem for the show the entire time it was on ABC, as many stations didn't air it in the intended timeslot or at all.
Thanks! “Loving” was mismanaged from the beginning, IMHO. Christine Tudor wanted AMC/LOV crossovers right when the show premiered, but was told no. She knew that having AMC characters on the show might raise ratings. Odd since LOV became AMC 2.0 at the end.
@@erikandrus4387 It was when she did arrive. She suggested some crossovers, but was denied, which is odd because AMC, OLTL, and GH were having crossovers clear in the late 1960’s and it was firmly established right off that Corinth was right near Pine Valley and Llanview.
@@erikandrus4387 Also, “The Young Marrieds” was set in Port Charles before GH even aired. The first crossover that I’m aware of was in 1969 when Steve from GH treated Meredith from OLTL (he traveled to Llanview from PC).
Why the exaggerated southern accents and southern names and characters when it is set in Corinth , Pennsylvania ? Were the writers from Georgia ? Certainly seems like it . Especially with Perry Stephens from Alabama and Linden Ashby from Florida - adds to the Southerness . Why wasn't it set in the South considering ?
Don't quote me on this because I might not be right, but I think Agnes Nixon from All My Children, One Life to Live, and The City produced Loving and she was a northern girl which is why it took place in Pennsylvania where AMC's Pine Valley and Llanview took place which were fictional suburbs of Philadelphia. I think a lot of people from the north originated from the South, so everything had a southern tone to it back in those days.
This show tanked because of its constant turnover in writers and producers. From day one the show had a very inconsistent feel. For some reason ABC didn’t want to settle anyone in behind the scenes.
I have an idea that any successful soap has a core theme. Those that fail, generally don't (or have lost theirs). Loving never found one, and was not developed with one.
I wouldn't call it a failure though it lasted more than a decade. New soap operas in this era didn't last that long as there was a few that only got a year or two. I think you are right about the lack of consistency which probably kept it from reaching the 2000s.
I did like Edge of Night way better especially in its last few seasons where it was a good mystery soap, but I think Loving was way better than Ryan's Hope.
I liked all of the 30 minute shows ABC had at that time. I agree Edge did not get the promotion it deserved! Probably because so many affiliates had dropped it by the last two years. Still, Edge was good and deserved better!
A very young Susan Walters, now she is a "Grandmother" on CBS's "The Young and the Restless"...
I remember the Sunday two hour movie but I don’t recall the Dorothy Lyman introduction to this at all. I graduated HS in June of 83’ when this premiered. Such a long time ago. I miss the 80’s.
@DAJ Well I still have the original 2 hour movie to the somewhat forgotten General Hospital spinoff Port Charles which aired on June 1, 1997 with original commercials intact and recorded in SP mode! I was able to transfer it to DVD but of course it does show it's age despite being recorded in SP mode, as tv's weren't in High Defination yet! Still I'm happy with it!
I remember I was 2 or 3. I was born in 1980. Too young to go to school, when it came out.💛
What did happen to Lorna anyway ??
DAJ, I miss the 80s too.
Me to the 80s was the golden Era for soaps not so much today in 2023
This was a nice synopsis / introduction of the first episode. I watched Loving sporadically. Didn't know Dorothy Lyman did this special. Thx for the upload.
I loved it how ABC used to usher their new daytime soaps as Sunday Night Movie specials the day before they premiered in their regular timeslots. I believe this aired the following day in its regular timeslot and the first real timeslot episode premiered the following day on Tuesday June 28th, 1983.
❤ Beautiful Corinth, Pennsylvania. I watched Loving from beginning to end. 83-95....it morphed into the City for 2 more years. Retro day time tv watching in coastal Mississippi 👋🤠🐻
Awwww, Susan Walters was just a baby.
And she met her future husband , Linden Ashby, on it as well.
Married since April 1986.
Crazy seeing Bryan Cranston in this
Just loved the beginning of this show. Thank you so much for posting this!
@draperscott7698 what happened then? I just watched the movie and now watching this. Such a strong opening! Leaps and bounds over bold and the beautifuls. Watching that via RUclips and can't understand how it's number 2 in the ratings.
The actor who played Jack, Perry Stephens, passed away in 2005.
Dorothy Lyman played Gwen frame on another world as well as appearing on the soap operas all my children generations and guiding light . before those soaps I read that she appeared on one life to live back in the 70s as a nun . That probably was her very first soap followed by AW. Then those other soaps which she would appear on in that order. I never knew that Ann Williams had passed until someone here on the comment board had brought it up .loved her on search for tomorrow. all of the NBC and CBS daytime soaps were my Main focus the ABC soaps came much later by the late 80s I've watched all of them though past and present so technically the ABC shows came into my life in the mid 80s I remember watching the final years of the edge of night I still remember when Jerry pulled a Micheal Myers and wound up killing his own sister Alicia who was the shows villainous at the finale of that show..such great memories of the soaps back in the 80s and now Lorna is playing Diane again on the young and the restless the only soap out of the four remaining soaps that I can tolerate although iam getting a little used to general hospital . As for the other two um no way Jose. I will take both general hospital and the young and the restless any day there is a good reason why the latter is still #1 in the ratings after all of these years. Ryan's hope loving and one life to live and general hospital were ABC much better shows GH can be a little so so at times but the other three were the better ones besides edge. I don't care what anybody says it should be loving that should've been ABC sole surviving soap IMO
I watched Guiding Light for decades. I don't remember Dorothy Lyman being in the cast.
She was also on The Edge of Night and 8 other soaps!
Thank you so much for sharing this !
I loved this soap opera
never seen it.fantastic!!!!!!!!!
I miss loving
I don't remember loving, thank you for sharing
Oh WOW.
And thank you!!!!
I wood like to see loving videos of 1983 to 1995
Its weird to see Dorothy Lyman not as obnoxious Naomi Harper.
From the first look at him, you knew that Garth Slater was someone to dislike at sight first. His venom towards poor June was distinct. And we all knew it. For Ann Williams, it would be, sadly, her last soap role. For she'd die in 1985, of cancer. This soap allowed her to reunite with John Cunningham, whom she knew from Search for Tomorrow (he played Wade Collins, one of Janet Bergman's husbands, and she played Jo's sister, Eunice).
This show had a treasure trove of talent in the early years. Teri Keane (Edge of Night), Wesley Addy, Augusta Dabney (Young Doctor Malone), Tom Ligon (Young and Restless), Pamela Blair (Annie, the movie), John Shearin (The Doctors) Bryan Cranston (Breaking Bad) among various others.
pitiful
Thanks for the Upload 👍 !! XD
Where is Edge of night.. That was on until 1984 ??
I wish I had a bunch more !
I appreciate you posting these 2 show though...
The food was a bit sparse at that party.
Does this have anything to do with the prime time pilot loving I was told yes but upon looking at it not sure
yes ! Loving started as a prime time pilot followed immediately by these first two episodes !
Thank you so much for sharing these episodes. Do you have any more episodes of Loving?
No mention of "Edge of Night" in the ABC daytime promo. Poor show was treated like a stepchild that the network didn't care about to promote.
ABC and Proctor & Gamble bumped heads in the mid 80s because even though and correct me if I'm wrong, the edge of night was the only Procter & Gamble soap that has aired on the alphabet network ABC wanted to take over the copyrights of the show and proctor & gamble were not having it. The ratings were beginning to drop, and was running out of sponsors if you notice when watching the opening credits of the edge of night when it was aired on ABC at the end of those opening credits from 1980-1984, there was always a sponsor so long story short ABC was forced to cancel the show which edge went offon December 28, 1984 I thought it was very sad because I loved watching the show on ABC
@@MarcasJohnson, ABC cancelled the show at the end of 1984 after it became apparent that even more affiliate stations were going to drop Edge at the beginning of 1985, which would have led to even lower ratings. Afflilate clearance issues were a problem for the show the entire time it was on ABC, as many stations didn't air it in the intended timeslot or at all.
Good.promo.very.fine.loving.
I like Jack and Lily's love theme.
Jennifer Ashe is a brilliant actor
@@arnoldjacoby5301 stacy forbes was part of the first episode.
Thanks! “Loving” was mismanaged from the beginning, IMHO. Christine Tudor wanted AMC/LOV crossovers right when the show premiered, but was told no. She knew that having AMC characters on the show might raise ratings. Odd since LOV became AMC 2.0 at the end.
Do you mean Agnes Nixon?
@@erikandrus4387 I’m not sure who told her no, but they did.
@@travisjames3517 I mean did Agnes Nixon want the AMC/LOV crossovers? Christine Tudor didn't show up until 1984 in the role of Gwyneth Alden.
@@erikandrus4387 It was when she did arrive. She suggested some crossovers, but was denied, which is odd because AMC, OLTL, and GH were having crossovers clear in the late 1960’s and it was firmly established right off that Corinth was right near Pine Valley and Llanview.
@@erikandrus4387 Also, “The Young Marrieds” was set in Port Charles before GH even aired. The first crossover that I’m aware of was in 1969 when Steve from GH treated Meredith from OLTL (he traveled to Llanview from PC).
Ok I reviewed it after one episode there is some good actresses I'm
Kinda shocked
I can’t believe this guy ends up becoming the best meth cook on National television lol
Why the exaggerated southern accents and southern names and characters when it is set in Corinth , Pennsylvania ? Were the writers from Georgia ? Certainly seems like it . Especially with Perry Stephens from Alabama and Linden Ashby from Florida - adds to the Southerness . Why wasn't it set in the South considering ?
Don't quote me on this because I might not be right, but I think Agnes Nixon from All My Children, One Life to Live, and The City produced Loving and she was a northern girl which is why it took place in Pennsylvania where AMC's Pine Valley and Llanview took place which were fictional suburbs of Philadelphia. I think a lot of people from the north originated from the South, so everything had a southern tone to it back in those days.
This show tanked because of its constant turnover in writers and producers. From day one the show had a very inconsistent feel. For some reason ABC didn’t want to settle anyone in behind the scenes.
Like all current soap opera.
I have an idea that any successful soap has a core theme. Those that fail, generally don't (or have lost theirs). Loving never found one, and was not developed with one.
@@heddalee You're totally right about that.
@@heddalee it tried to find its calling with a college audience.
I wouldn't call it a failure though it lasted more than a decade. New soap operas in this era didn't last that long as there was a few that only got a year or two. I think you are right about the lack of consistency which probably kept it from reaching the 2000s.
I don't remember this show at all.
maybe ?
Another Dumb soap ryans hope & Edge of night were much better
I did like Edge of Night way better especially in its last few seasons where it was a good mystery soap, but I think Loving was way better than Ryan's Hope.
I liked all of the 30 minute shows ABC had at that time. I agree Edge did not get the promotion it deserved! Probably because so many affiliates had dropped it by the last two years. Still, Edge was good and deserved better!
I watched at age 5😅😅 love it
I.wood like
To.see loveing.vidos of1983 to.1984