He actually predicted the whole plot, literally all of them died, all the ones presented at the meeting. And this would make sense that V is from another timeline, as I dont know how you would open a vault from the inside..and it looked like he was not bitten by the alpha
@Kristopher Bailey he clearly was. Zack Snyder said in an interview with Polygon: “I’d make it in a second,” Zack Snyder said of Army of the Dead 2 in an interview with Polygon. “What we have planned is too crazy. Once we knew Vanderohe was bit, and he’s going to Mexico City, I was like, ‘You know what’s gonna happen?’ And then I just went on a tear. And by the time it ended, Shay [Hatten, co-writer] was like, ‘OK.’”
I believe the safe is some sort of time machine. In the Army of Thieves Sebastian/Ludwig realized something about Hans Wagner (the creator of the safe) and why he locked himself in the safe. I think it's because by going inside the vault he could time travel or whatever and be with his family and that was the happy ending of their story.
@@Anon-qp3kt actually it’s not stupid at all it completely makes sense if u have watched army of thieves. Because Sebastian/Ludwig clearly tells at the end of the movie that he understands now why Hans locked himself inside the safe.
When Vanderohe went into the vault, it was clear that he had no bites from his fight w Zeus, but when he came out, he was bitten! So he basically just switched timelines while he was in the vault!
Maria's key on her necklace has 4 holes in it while the skeleton resembling her only has 3. Again confirming this might be the 4th timeloop. Also the safe looks slightly different on the montage.
I just want to point out that noob Ludwig's amazing shooting skills are most likely not natural but rather due to repeated practice and real life experience shooting zombies, which he simply cannot remember from one time loop to another. But the skill and muscle memory is somehow retained.
@@Aristocratic13 I'm referring to the scene where he practices on a bottle and hits it first try. Not the scene where he kills the bride. I was suggesting that skills carry over between loops subconsciously - not direct memories.
Nah The movies fine but not some masterpiece Snyder is a competent and visual director but not a particularly great storyteller imo But I respect your opinion 🙂
@@BobChillison agree, the movie is good and enjoyable, snyder's visual cinematography are amazing. but he's not like Nolan or other brilliant storyteller.
I noticed another hint. Martin, Tanaka's head of security, escapes with the bag "with the zombie head" and he closes the hatch in front of Lily and he says "I fooled you again" (I can't remember the exact quote). To me this didn't make sense, unless is the second time he escapes with the head from that hatched or the second time he fools Lily.
I think by again he meant when he got the queen's head instead of her blood . Since lily said that martin just wanted the blood of the alpha not her head
@@StandcomVideos no i know what you mean but it stood out 'ha got you twice', one of those moments that just stands out and feels like there's something more. sure the primary implied meaning if what you speak of but i wish so bad that it meant something else
My best guess so far: 1st loop: the team made it into the casino but failed, leaving the blueprint on the table 2nd loop: made it to the hallway of the save but failed there, leaving the skeletons 3rd loop: the dream sequence, they actually succeeded & got the money out, so now Tanaka & the government decided they can start the real mission 4th loop: sending in Martin with the team to get an alpha's head I hvnt figure out how Vando retains his memories... maybe he got bit by Zeus in the 1st loop & remember all of these...?
What doesn't make sense is that Marianne is also among the skeletons in the vault. But why is she even there if she's the helicopter pilot? In the version WE see, she never enters the vault area.
But, what’s the reason for creating this timeloop idea? Maybe because of alien might be mad about something so they made this loop especially for them?🤔
I finally got to see the robot zombie. Blew my mind. Wonder if it's connected to the time loop theory. For anyone who didn't catch it, but want to, it's when Lilly, Scott and Guz are running through the casino. A zombie jumps onto Guz's back, and Guz throws him. When Guz shoots the zombie a moment later, you can see the inside of the head was robotic and sparks.
you also just see some zombies in the pool scene with zeus who have blue glowing eyes (very alien/robotic) and anotherone when Guz is holding off the zombies while they are cutting the wall he shoots a zombie and sparks fly
Also when Coyote is cutting the wall with the saw, Guzman is shooting down a dark hallway. One of the zombies that doges his bullets has blue eyes too.
@@robertabramovich9588I agree when Zeus himself was killed he had some blueish blood too and his even his zombie alien baby was completely blue before it died
The Zombie Queen was pregnant, if there is a time loop. Love too see how that loose end ties in if she doesn't die and does give birth. Also the zombie tiger idea was bad ass, loved it 🥀.
They should've made this a series, the movie felt like another basic zombie movie but didn't feel like it would resemble walking dead too much so I think a show would've been the route to go
How do people want a sequel to a movie like this?? Maybe I should have dropped a shitton of LSD or something before watching this in order to enjoy it with the absolute ridiculous number of inconsistencies in it.
What peaks my curiosity is the two deaths we don't see. These 2 characters are also the key players to success. Coyote and Dieter. We never see them straight up die. Dieter is snatched away by the zombies while closing the safe on Van and Coyote is confronted by Zeus on the roof but neither are shown dying. It's something that I'm still questioning.
My theory is that Zeus bit coyote right before she died so that she would come back to life as a zombie. He probably noticed how badass she is and he wants her to replace the previous dead zombie queen.
@@scrrin Actually it wouldn't be a time loop in a sense but instead the changing wing of a butterfly, the effect of making an altering decision in the path. If this theory is true that would mean there are alternate timelines where events could have occurred differently and the future would have changed accordingly. If the key holes were represented for a reason its not that drastic to assume in this timeline something different in the past cause it to have 4 holes instead of 3. Either way this has nothing to do with sequential looping or indicators its just an arbitrary number caused by a random generation. Perhaps the 3 holes were chosen for a reason but the event where it was decided to make 3 altered slightly so instead it was 4 this time. Either way this theory of looping makes the story 10 times better because I don't want Sebastian to be dead, man really deserved to live.
@@Liam-gu2ig Which part exactly? Didn't see him get bit. He was about to but Dieter bonked the head of the Alpha and pushed Vanderohe into the vault while Dieter's the one getting targeted by the Alpha.
@@Moa_SmugVan got into a private jet going to Mexico and there, he was having a toast together with two flight attendants. Suddenly, one flight attendant said to him that he feels a little cold and he just wanted to have a rest. He went into his room, checks himself and there, he got bit on the right shoulder
@@its...Nnovaa I watched the movie, i know that. What i'm asking is how in the world he got bit when we literally saw him get pushed into the vault before the Alpha could even bite him. He got out of the nuked city *UNHARMED*? by the radiation, and took some hours before he starts to turn. Some things don't add up. Those bitten turns almost immediately so if he was bitten how did that even happen and why it took so long to affect him?
@@PLNKYELLOWBLACK yeah I remember that, it was so retarded. She fought her way out, 6 zombies around her en 4 people with guns in front of her. And she doesnt say the bodygaurd whatever guy screwed her over, it was so dumb
another question is: In Army of Thieves Dieter tells how the Götterdämmerung was thrown in the sea with Wagner inside. But there is no explanation on how it get to Vegas and where is Wagner's body
What if when the safe maker killed himself in the safe by closing it, the safe became possessed and part of that possession is a time loop? Dieter was working in the safe business when Bautista came to get him, so he probably was not part of the loop till that moment.
It would explain why so many scenes and things that characters do make zero sense. Maybe we are seeing cuts from multiple timelines all pieced together to appear as one timeline.
@@michaelestrada3613 he meant Coyote, why she didnt leave with them in the helicopter from the roof, she could have just slowly backup to the helicopter and then toss the head to Zeus when taking off
1st was at olympus pool area. There 1 there in 2 scenes (same guy,by the left). My take:Saw it wasn't sure about the theory at 1st about robots zombies. 2nd was while escaping the vaults, guzman was hold them off while lily was using the saw,the 1st one that guzman head shot. The note that the area didn't have any lights or electricity was in the background. My take:This part was the clearest confirmation of the robots zombies theory. The 3rd of was on the casino floor. That part you'd have to freeze frame forward to see it. My take :too quick and unclear to decide. The vault escapes scared is the most visible part of robot zombies there would be no need using freeze forward frame by frame to see it .
Definitely an alien plague or something like that. Zeus's baby glows blue when he pulls it out and the light fades when it dies. When his head explodes his blood is blue. A couple zombies have blue eyes and metallic skeletons underneath. And they straight up left Area 51 in the beginning...
If you see the first shot of vanderhoe in the movie, then you'll see that he gets tensed on seeing his old friends, why would he get tensed? It felt like he has been there before and knows what's going to happen.
I believe certain events must take place in order for them to break the loop. Finding out what those events are is gonna be a huge pain because nobody remembers what the other past events were like. Only leaving behind their dead bodies as clues without any context as to what happened. Deja Vu, that's what this movie feels like.
I think this amplifies the themes of the movie. The fact that people go into gambling or risky activities thinking they will do it differently when they are unknowingly retreading the same steps towards inevitable ruin
@@BaronEurchild then why are you here go watch something productive while we watch this people should realise if u dont like something dont ruin it for others
@@justiceleague-wo1zs To be completely honest, I am here because people's appreciation of Zack Snyder, and this film in particular, don't make any sense to me. I wanted to do more research on other people's opinions to expand my horizons a little more. Unfortunately after watching literally (I checked my watch history) 12 different videos about the movie that has not happened. However, what you will hopefully notice is that I did not do anything to "ruin it for others", whether it meant the film or this youtube video. If I ruined the experience for you by expressing my distaste for the film, I am sorry. You have my permission to like things I do not.
@@herloss448 he literally asks if its robots in his comment ?? And "robots" acting just like a zombie would raises a lot of questions so instead of being a smartass, maybe try to think before you post
the whole movie had very videogame-like aspects and a lot of the shots seemed very cutsceney. the loop makes sense in this case, they die, respawn, come back better, just like you play a video game because you know what has and hasn't worked for you in the past.
The ending was stupid lmao. Also, a sequel wouldn't make sense because that plane is definitely going to crash once everyone inside gets turned into a zombie. Vanderhoe also seemed like he would be smart enough to delete himself before he turns or at least warn the others.
To Netflix and Zack, I'll say this... You guys should made a trilogy based on this, or hell, expand this Zombie Universe as much as you can. Zack is a genius and I'm sure we as a fans / viewers, will be beyond satisfied. Fighting and dying. Fighting and dying. Fighting and dying.
I wondered if this a more video game element to it, some of the zombies seem to have faint blue glow and almost an electrical reaction to be shot. My theory is this is a fourth loop as said but it a video game, the characters being used for different runs and reruns trying to do it with different outcome and team load outs
there are actually several robot zombies (the ones with glowing eyes), this is confirmed but we dont know what they mean, Snyder teased its either government planted survilance, to infiltrate the zombies, or some kind of next evolution of some otherworld technology or something like that
What if Vanderhoe gets bitten > survives the nuke > rents the private plane > gets infected > attendants open the restroom > attendants and pilot get bitten > plane crashes but somehow they survived because vandarhoe is an alpha > the military captures vandarhoe to put into area 51 > back the first scene were trucks crashes and an alpha escapes and vandarhoe is zeus > time loop Possibly the one behind this loop isnt tanaka but rather its dieter i think
I hope the time loop theory is actually true. It would be nice to see a favorable ending where most of the team members we enjoy survive. And also discover new angles concerning the aliens & robot zombies.
I knew it when I noticed the Skeletons on the vault and that robot zombie. I think they really gave those loopholes intentionally. Great great movie. Loved it. 👌
They did talk about it, it's the safe wagner ( the guy who built it) locked himself in and killed himself. In the end of army of thieves gwen told dieter to go and find it for her,, for the both of them,, so that their legend may complete. And dieter sacrificing himself in the vault just closes another circle of love and death, just like the story on the vaults,so now the new legend they created is completed, the same way the old ones did
Just want to get fact straight, they are not robbing Bly's Casino, right? Coz if it is his casino, shouldn't Bly had the code for the safe, therefore they didn't need the safe creacker guy and they at least safe 30 min more (coz in the film they had to wait 30min). If turns out its his casino then this movie just plain stupid, i mean nobody ask for the code to the owner of the safe.
Bly wasn't going for the money, he needed soldiers to protect his security guy while he secured the Queen head. The security guy was going to kill them all anyways, Bly didn't want them to survive after his security guy got the head. The vault was a wild goose chase, and maybe he made up some BS to explain why he doesn't have the code for it.
@@TheJuggernaut88 I know what Bly really wants its either Queen's or King's head, i dont question that matter. The problem here is they dont explain why nobody in the group doesn't ask for the code for the safe. Don't you find it wierd to not ask for the code? That's why I want to know if its really Bly's Casino or not.
I think the safe is trying to find the perfect version of the team where they open the safe, get the cash and get out of there safe. but unfortunately it hasn't found it yet
People called it a shallow pointless movie but they failed to realize it was a Zack Snyder film. It was bought d to mess with your head. It'll be a cult classic in time.
I'm one of those people... I couldn't get past all the convenient plot devices, obvious 'twists' and dead horse clichés to be inspired enough to care what happens in any potential sequel.
Hahahhahahahhahaha this was a terrible movie. It'd be forgotten just like Sucker Punch. Only reason Man of Steel is still remembered was because Cavill is a charismatic nerdy hunk
It doesn’t show all the bodies. It’s like in a video game when the corpse from your previous death is on the ground with all your gear. It is just the current body not all previous iterations. Maybe a video game speed run time loop.
It's like Project Zomboid - you respawn as yourself and can find yourself again. That's why the intro seems like a tutorial / cutscene, then with the music's soft 4th break "watch out Elvis" from Mr. Cheese (yeah it's the lyrics, but we're bending reality here), then the game can begin (again?)... Also, isn't that them when they enter the casino floor for the dramatic exit? Table towards the middle of the screen. I can't post a screenshot here, but the time is around 1:27 ish and between the slots.
I believe it was a reference to call of duty zombies. How the 4 main characters are stuck in a loop only surving up to a certain round, but when the player figures out the Easter egg the game ends and the characters move on to the next map.
I think if the ending was another time loop, that shows 3 in total in the movie. Also the 3 AKs and the 3 “fighting and dying” tweets from Snyder might also be a clue that AOTD is hopefully 1/3 films
Dieter is the one who made the safe. Also the story about the safe are the clues that defines what will happen in the future. Remember it was Greek mythology. The evil zombie king be called Zeus.? Tell it doesn't sounds suspicious
Thing I noticed, if you watch the VERY beginning, it shows a timeline. They succeeded in coming back to the quarantine area but 2 people get bitten leaving them crushed by blocks that block the quarantined zone from the city. Personally I thought that was how the movie was going to end but it ended different from what we’re shown from the VERY beginning of the movie. 🧐
I have a theory. What if Vanderohe just made everything up? This would mean there is no time loop theory and everything just moves forward. Sorry if this disappoints anyone.
Bruh... Zack Snyder is slowly building his own "comic book-esque" universe on Netflix and I'm all for it. We've got zombies, aliens, multiverse theory, and soon superheroes. Oh boy!
This is a big brain movie. It's mindblowing that you didn't even realize that you just watched a mindblowing plot because you got mindblown by the "crossing the line" zombie tiger.
Just give us a simple coherent storyline about a zombie apocalypse. But NO! You gotta put a zombie society, time loop, cyborg zombies, sequels, prequels and so much more!
Guzman's friend was literally the smartest person in the film.
Ikr
He actually predicted the whole plot, literally all of them died, all the ones presented at the meeting. And this would make sense that V is from another timeline, as I dont know how you would open a vault from the inside..and it looked like he was not bitten by the alpha
Exactly
He's dead tho. Tanaka won't let any evidence go out. Even Tanaka gave his bodyguard look uneasy. Probly his bodyguard killed him
@Kristopher Bailey he clearly was. Zack Snyder said in an interview with Polygon:
“I’d make it in a second,” Zack Snyder said of Army of the Dead 2 in an interview with Polygon. “What we have planned is too crazy. Once we knew Vanderohe was bit, and he’s going to Mexico City, I was like, ‘You know what’s gonna happen?’ And then I just went on a tear. And by the time it ended, Shay [Hatten, co-writer] was like, ‘OK.’”
Zack in BvS: what about time travel
WB: SHIT NO HIDE THAT SHIT ERASE IT
Zack in AoTD: what about a time loop
Netflix: WHAT ABOUT A GODDAMN TIME LOOP
I love this comment 😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥
WB we don't understand the flash reversing time in JL erase it, also WB let's make The Flash a flashpoint, multiverse, time travel movie WTF
@@fcukhataz1 also let nolan make tenet
@@justiceleague-wo1zs To be fair nolan has chashet.
It's Netflix. All their content has time shennanigans.
I believe the safe is some sort of time machine. In the Army of Thieves Sebastian/Ludwig realized something about Hans Wagner (the creator of the safe) and why he locked himself in the safe. I think it's because by going inside the vault he could time travel or whatever and be with his family and that was the happy ending of their story.
interesting :)
If you don't see how stupid this is then I can't help you
@@Anon-qp3kt actually it’s not stupid at all it completely makes sense if u have watched army of thieves. Because Sebastian/Ludwig clearly tells at the end of the movie that he understands now why Hans locked himself inside the safe.
@@tanishqshastri2233 and that nobody understands the creators genius. I think what youre thinking is what im thinking so what does everyone think?
@@jeffreyybanez1090 maybe😂 well it doesn’t matter what everyone thinks. Some believe in this theory some don’t
Remember dieter saying safe is a doorway to another realm?!?
That would really make sense because not all the clues can be seen but might have also been spoken in dialogue.
When Vanderohe went into the vault, it was clear that he had no bites from his fight w Zeus, but when he came out, he was bitten! So he basically just switched timelines while he was in the vault!
I think you solved the mystery.
*BOOM*
Ooo
Maria's key on her necklace has 4 holes in it while the skeleton resembling her only has 3. Again confirming this might be the 4th timeloop.
Also the safe looks slightly different on the montage.
Good catch. The safe also had four dials, maybe it had three before.
well spotted👍
In the beginning montage, the liberace impersonator says " Are you ready? 1..2...3..4.."
Un Fazed that was decided on the day, wasn’t in the script. Just a coincidence
You fucked my head up even more...
It's a game. Mission fails, they respawn and restart the whole thing.
Payday but with zombies
aotd being video game is like the offspring of payday and left 4 dead. both are co op games
damn right
Explains the poster.
Thats what i was thinking too
I knew Zack wouldn't just do an ordinary zombie movie. What a madman
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It was such a shit film
So many unnecessary deaths like chambers as a huge example. Stupid and not much thought put into it.
Too many contradictions.
Lol it was a piece of shit film
This actually completely changes the nature of the movie.
Yeah? What would you say if I tell you that you can see two UFOs in the start of the film?
@@parthapratimroy8282 I saw that as well.
Exactly
Nope, is still a bad movie
No shit Sherlock...
I just want to point out that noob Ludwig's amazing shooting skills are most likely not natural but rather due to repeated practice and real life experience shooting zombies, which he simply cannot remember from one time loop to another. But the skill and muscle memory is somehow retained.
I was going to say, his shots were on point for a newbie
I really hope it’s like a time loop I’d really like to see chambers again
SAME, honestly I wanna see the whole cast again
If Zack really makes a sequel then Dave might reprise his role he might end up alive till the end.
@@doctorslayer2106 he make prequal.. Army of thief
@@KinG4ReaLOfficial Yea it was good (kinda)
@@leroyvermilion7708 dont spoil it for me im just gonna start watching now
also, this explains dieter and the Latino girl saying they can't shoot, and then suddenly they are badass shooters.
Wasn't it about killing zombies? Chambers and Dieter are the two who have not killed a zombie before the mission.
@@Slade_The_Deathstroke you're right.
Dieter was trained a little tho also he still sucked lol only killed like one
Imagine if it turns out the whole movie is actually showing each scene across different timelines
@sunbro of astora it does matter, thanks for correcting us
Dieter is really good with a gun despite never using one before. The scene where he shoots the bottle first try. Almost like he's done it before
And why is Dieter rocking the old school 80’s Sony Walkman headphones.
He’s not good lol
@@Aristocratic13 Yo, you watched the film? They legit make a point to say Dieter is good at shooting despite never firing a gun.
@@samhoned8277 He killed only one zombie and was almost blind firing
@@Aristocratic13 I'm referring to the scene where he practices on a bottle and hits it first try. Not the scene where he kills the bride. I was suggesting that skills carry over between loops subconsciously - not direct memories.
hell yes . I was expecting this Netflix .
heck
This Is what happens when a studio gives their 200% support on an artist Director, the results are outstanding
Nah
The movies fine but not some masterpiece
Snyder is a competent and visual director but not a particularly great storyteller imo
But I respect your opinion 🙂
@@BobChillison only if you saw the movie and understood it, am a film maker and I appreciate the art of mysteries
@@evansojuka1399 Don't be a joke.This movie has ton of plot holes and is cringe fest. Booring with worst characters.
I'm looking forward to the tie-in short film, showing when/how the US created radiation free nukes..
@@BobChillison agree, the movie is good and enjoyable, snyder's visual cinematography are amazing. but he's not like Nolan or other brilliant storyteller.
I noticed another hint. Martin, Tanaka's head of security, escapes with the bag "with the zombie head" and he closes the hatch in front of Lily and he says "I fooled you again" (I can't remember the exact quote). To me this didn't make sense, unless is the second time he escapes with the head from that hatched or the second time he fools Lily.
I think by again he meant when he got the queen's head instead of her blood .
Since lily said that martin just wanted the blood of the alpha not her head
@@StandcomVideos agreed that’s exactly it
@@StandcomVideos no i know what you mean but it stood out 'ha got you twice', one of those moments that just stands out and feels like there's something more. sure the primary implied meaning if what you speak of but i wish so bad that it meant something else
"I got you twice"
Referring to how he was able to trap chambers and let her die, same with Lilly.
@@samspiano7070i wasnt really paying attention at that moment but that line did stood out to me
Guzman's Friend: This is crazy Your all gonna die
Scott: Amateurs...
My best guess so far:
1st loop: the team made it into the casino but failed, leaving the blueprint on the table
2nd loop: made it to the hallway of the save but failed there, leaving the skeletons
3rd loop: the dream sequence, they actually succeeded & got the money out, so now Tanaka & the government decided they can start the real mission
4th loop: sending in Martin with the team to get an alpha's head
I hvnt figure out how Vando retains his memories... maybe he got bit by Zeus in the 1st loop & remember all of these...?
It's not a dream, it's a planning montage.
This theory needs applause 🔥🔥🔥🔥
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What doesn't make sense is that Marianne is also among the skeletons in the vault. But why is she even there if she's the helicopter pilot? In the version WE see, she never enters the vault area.
But, what’s the reason for creating this timeloop idea? Maybe because of alien might be mad about something so they made this loop especially for them?🤔
I finally got to see the robot zombie. Blew my mind. Wonder if it's connected to the time loop theory. For anyone who didn't catch it, but want to, it's when Lilly, Scott and Guz are running through the casino. A zombie jumps onto Guz's back, and Guz throws him. When Guz shoots the zombie a moment later, you can see the inside of the head was robotic and sparks.
you also just see some zombies in the pool scene with zeus who have blue glowing eyes (very alien/robotic) and anotherone when Guz is holding off the zombies while they are cutting the wall he shoots a zombie and sparks fly
Also when Coyote is cutting the wall with the saw, Guzman is shooting down a dark hallway. One of the zombies that doges his bullets has blue eyes too.
There's a scene in the beginning where there are 2 UFOs. Search it on RUclips, you'll see it
@@carlosmanzanares6133 blue eyes mean alpha
@@robertabramovich9588I agree when Zeus himself was killed he had some blueish blood too and his even his zombie alien baby was completely blue before it died
The Zombie Queen was pregnant, if there is a time loop. Love too see how that loose end ties in if she doesn't die and does give birth. Also the zombie tiger idea was bad ass, loved it 🥀.
THIS IS WHY WE NEED A SEQUEL ZACK MADMAN
Good news, the animated prequel is in the pipeline and they are talking about the sequel.
They should've made this a series, the movie felt like another basic zombie movie but didn't feel like it would resemble walking dead too much so I think a show would've been the route to go
@@speedracer8724 I dont care about wath you think lmao
@@JoaoVitor-ni6ku why are you so offended lol, and how old are you, literally no excuse if you don’t know how to spell “what” unless your under 10
How do people want a sequel to a movie like this?? Maybe I should have dropped a shitton of LSD or something before watching this in order to enjoy it with the absolute ridiculous number of inconsistencies in it.
What peaks my curiosity is the two deaths we don't see. These 2 characters are also the key players to success. Coyote and Dieter. We never see them straight up die. Dieter is snatched away by the zombies while closing the safe on Van and Coyote is confronted by Zeus on the roof but neither are shown dying. It's something that I'm still questioning.
this!
The nuke will kill them tho
Coyote is the new queen after she dethroned the previous.
@@icemanhernandez6649 that's what I'm thinking
My theory is that Zeus bit coyote right before she died so that she would come back to life as a zombie. He probably noticed how badass she is and he wants her to replace the previous dead zombie queen.
Yea, the key on the dead Marc has 3 holes in it. Maria has 4, but same design. So another sight of their 4th attempt
Makes total sense that a time loop changes the appearance of a random key.
@@scrrin yeah, because otherwise time loop makes total sense, its the changing key that makes it unrealistic, lmao smh
@@scrrin Actually it wouldn't be a time loop in a sense but instead the changing wing of a butterfly, the effect of making an altering decision in the path. If this theory is true that would mean there are alternate timelines where events could have occurred differently and the future would have changed accordingly.
If the key holes were represented for a reason its not that drastic to assume in this timeline something different in the past cause it to have 4 holes instead of 3. Either way this has nothing to do with sequential looping or indicators its just an arbitrary number caused by a random generation.
Perhaps the 3 holes were chosen for a reason but the event where it was decided to make 3 altered slightly so instead it was 4 this time.
Either way this theory of looping makes the story 10 times better because I don't want Sebastian to be dead, man really deserved to live.
Is its really a fan theory if your characters literally say it?
Well characters say it as a joke but its fan theories.
You got a point there, also how is this a theory ?....it sounded like a throw away joke in the movie
@@MrNeo901 uhm zack actually confirmed it. Not just a fan theory
@@anmatrix5207 he confirmed it after fans speculated it, some theories were wild so Zack confirmed few.
@@MrNeo901 ofc he won't put all out. He will save for the movies lmao
This might be the first zombie story where the apocalypse can be reversed.
Wow. Great point.
Warm bodies and another I can't remember ate zombie movies where it was reversed
Since Dieter prevented Vanderohe from getting bitten in his dying scene, I bet he's still alive in the timeline where Van got bitten.
Van did get bitten in the movie
@@Liam-gu2ig Which part exactly? Didn't see him get bit. He was about to but Dieter bonked the head of the Alpha and pushed Vanderohe into the vault while Dieter's the one getting targeted by the Alpha.
@@Moa_SmugVan got into a private jet going to Mexico and there, he was having a toast together with two flight attendants. Suddenly, one flight attendant said to him that he feels a little cold and he just wanted to have a rest. He went into his room, checks himself and there, he got bit on the right shoulder
@@its...Nnovaa I watched the movie, i know that. What i'm asking is how in the world he got bit when we literally saw him get pushed into the vault before the Alpha could even bite him.
He got out of the nuked city *UNHARMED*? by the radiation, and took some hours before he starts to turn. Some things don't add up. Those bitten turns almost immediately so if he was bitten how did that even happen and why it took so long to affect him?
So the timeline we watched was set in the universe where all of the characters take the most stupid decisions we can think of? Got it
I was so frustrating at everything and everyone haha
Guzman and the girl that got screwed over in the dark deserved to live. Literally no one tried to help them they just waited for them to get eaten.
@@PLNKYELLOWBLACK yeah I remember that, it was so retarded. She fought her way out, 6 zombies around her en 4 people with guns in front of her. And she doesnt say the bodygaurd whatever guy screwed her over, it was so dumb
@@PLNKYELLOWBLACK even let his second girlfriend die by the elevator. Scott just not a good leader bro.
Its like making all the wrong decisions like in Until Dawn
noticed all of that. my take: the US army is training the army of zombies with a time loop. sending the same group to die.
@@ivy2007 also Zeus fights with his fists in the vault, not biting.
@@ivy2007 maybe Zeus trained them. Je was a weapon on his way to Iran. Until the containment breach.
Huh if they have access to something that can cause a time loop, zombie apocalypse is pretty useless and dangerous and not necessary
That could also explain the robot zombies. They’re keeping tabs on the group’s and zombie’s performances in combat.
another question is: In Army of Thieves Dieter tells how the Götterdämmerung was thrown in the sea with Wagner inside. But there is no explanation on how it get to Vegas and where is Wagner's body
What if when the safe maker killed himself in the safe by closing it, the safe became possessed and part of that possession is a time loop? Dieter was working in the safe business when Bautista came to get him, so he probably was not part of the loop till that moment.
The Götterdämmerung was just the fourth safe Wagner made and its location was unknown. The safe Wagner sealed himself in was another unnamed one.
Zack is a genius, how we can’t admire his work? This movie is amazing, I hope this is the start for a new zombie franchise
MADMAN. This franchise is gonna be EPIC.
It would explain why so many scenes and things that characters do make zero sense. Maybe we are seeing cuts from multiple timelines all pieced together to appear as one timeline.
That's one way to explain terrible film making haha
The daughter made no sense to me. Neither did the hot French girl not leaving on the helicopter make any sense
@@Aristocratic13 EXACTLY ^^ they made a big deal out of the daughters friend just to forget about her In the helicopter it was really stupid
@@Ollybunn ahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha o m f g, lets hope
@@michaelestrada3613 he meant Coyote, why she didnt leave with them in the helicopter from the roof, she could have just slowly backup to the helicopter and then toss the head to Zeus when taking off
Zeus, I've come to bargain.
Not just time loops but the alien zombies Zeus was experimenting with making robot zombies as well.
Anyone agrees?
Cos there was 2 scene with robot zombies in them
@@MEMPHISLOKE agreed
I only saw 1 scene where a zombie with blue eyes was shot and it looked robotic
1st was at olympus pool area. There 1 there in 2 scenes (same guy,by the left).
My take:Saw it wasn't sure about the theory at 1st about robots zombies.
2nd was while escaping the vaults, guzman was hold them off while lily was using the saw,the 1st one that guzman head shot. The note that the area didn't have any lights or electricity was in the background.
My take:This part was the clearest confirmation of the robots zombies theory.
The 3rd of was on the casino floor. That part you'd have to freeze frame forward to see it.
My take :too quick and unclear to decide.
The vault escapes scared is the most visible part of robot zombies there would be no need using freeze forward frame by frame to see it .
Definitely an alien plague or something like that. Zeus's baby glows blue when he pulls it out and the light fades when it dies. When his head explodes his blood is blue. A couple zombies have blue eyes and metallic skeletons underneath. And they straight up left Area 51 in the beginning...
If you see the first shot of vanderhoe in the movie, then you'll see that he gets tensed on seeing his old friends, why would he get tensed? It felt like he has been there before and knows what's going to happen.
Patiently waiting for the Canadian lad to watch it in 0.25 speed and tell reveal all the details.
I believe certain events must take place in order for them to break the loop. Finding out what those events are is gonna be a huge pain because nobody remembers what the other past events were like. Only leaving behind their dead bodies as clues without any context as to what happened. Deja Vu, that's what this movie feels like.
I think this amplifies the themes of the movie. The fact that people go into gambling or risky activities thinking they will do it differently when they are unknowingly retreading the same steps towards inevitable ruin
“One fan theory” or in other words, something that Snyder actually specifically wrote in the film...
Is this movie good for my 10 year old sister to watch
@@yrnsteph6396 No, it's very, very gory and violent. There's also nudity.
@@yrnsteph6396 This movie is not good for anyone to watch.
@@BaronEurchild then why are you here go watch something productive while we watch this people should realise if u dont like something dont ruin it for others
@@justiceleague-wo1zs To be completely honest, I am here because people's appreciation of Zack Snyder, and this film in particular, don't make any sense to me. I wanted to do more research on other people's opinions to expand my horizons a little more. Unfortunately after watching literally (I checked my watch history) 12 different videos about the movie that has not happened. However, what you will hopefully notice is that I did not do anything to "ruin it for others", whether it meant the film or this youtube video. If I ruined the experience for you by expressing my distaste for the film, I am sorry. You have my permission to like things I do not.
Netflix & Zack Snyder. Ah, I love it! I love bringing people together!
Lex😂
@@noone-js1kb ;)
oohh lex huh
Entendí esa referencia
When they shot a zombie with blue eyes. Didn’t it look robotic? So maybe those who had blue eyes are robots bc not all of them had blue eyes
Them are robots man why didn't u recognize them?
@@herloss448 he literally asks if its robots in his comment ?? And "robots" acting just like a zombie would raises a lot of questions so instead of being a smartass, maybe try to think before you post
@@koohpa i meant that if u pause the scene where that one blue eyed zombie gets shot inside the casino u can see inside of his face is metal
@@herloss448 yes thats what he meant when he said "when they shot a zombie with blue eyes"
@@koohpa more of why were the you were there?
the whole movie had very videogame-like aspects and a lot of the shots seemed very cutsceney. the loop makes sense in this case, they die, respawn, come back better, just like you play a video game because you know what has and hasn't worked for you in the past.
What the hell. This blew my mind. We need a sequel.
Now. Explain the ufo, zeus origin, robot zombies, and how vanderohe survive all those heat & radiation
Because zack Snyder thats why
Yes! Glad I’m not the only one who saw the robot zombies. So confused but interested about them
patience my child
May be vanderrohe survived because of the virus inside him...a normal person can't survive thd radiation
It's 12 movies glued together into one using bad writing
Fighting and Dying.
The last guy also has the Omega sign tattood on him, possibly indicating that he's the last.
NEED THE SEQUEL ABOUT HOW THEY GONNA SUCCEED THE MISSION
U good boi?
The first line of the end credits song is 'I'm caught in a trap' so I took it as confirmation they are in a time loop 🤣
The ending of this was mental. Feel like I need a part 2 negl, even if it's short.
The ending was stupid lmao. Also, a sequel wouldn't make sense because that plane is definitely going to crash once everyone inside gets turned into a zombie. Vanderhoe also seemed like he would be smart enough to delete himself before he turns or at least warn the others.
Love the Theory but its not any of ours, It was literally given to us in the script by the writer himself.
The song at the opening of the movie is Suspicious Minds by Elvis. The opening line of the song is "We're caught in a trap. I can't walk out."
I really enjoyed the cast of this movie. I'm hoping they do have a sort of "time loop" to see them all alive again.
To Netflix and Zack, I'll say this...
You guys should made a trilogy based on this, or hell, expand this Zombie Universe as much as you can. Zack is a genius and I'm sure we as a fans / viewers, will be beyond satisfied. Fighting and dying. Fighting and dying. Fighting and dying.
I wondered if this a more video game element to it, some of the zombies seem to have faint blue glow and almost an electrical reaction to be shot. My theory is this is a fourth loop as said but it a video game, the characters being used for different runs and reruns trying to do it with different outcome and team load outs
there are actually several robot zombies (the ones with glowing eyes), this is confirmed but we dont know what they mean, Snyder teased its either government planted survilance, to infiltrate the zombies, or some kind of next evolution of some otherworld technology or something like that
Zeus makes all the alphas though. So how would one infiltrate the alpha group?
What if
Vanderhoe gets bitten > survives the nuke > rents the private plane > gets infected > attendants open the restroom > attendants and pilot get bitten > plane crashes but somehow they survived because vandarhoe is an alpha > the military captures vandarhoe to put into area 51 > back the first scene were trucks crashes and an alpha escapes and vandarhoe is zeus > time loop
Possibly the one behind this loop isnt tanaka but rather its dieter i think
I hope the time loop theory is actually true. It would be nice to see a favorable ending where most of the team members we enjoy survive.
And also discover new angles concerning the aliens & robot zombies.
While I was watching this scene, I actually thought it is really happening
I knew it when I noticed the Skeletons on the vault and that robot zombie. I think they really gave those loopholes intentionally. Great great movie. Loved it. 👌
Why is nobody talking about the safe and the orgin story of it. (In the Army of Thieves) Was it not an example of foreshadowing?
They did talk about it, it's the safe wagner ( the guy who built it) locked himself in and killed himself. In the end of army of thieves gwen told dieter to go and find it for her,, for the both of them,, so that their legend may complete. And dieter sacrificing himself in the vault just closes another circle of love and death, just like the story on the vaults,so now the new legend they created is completed, the same way the old ones did
Just want to get fact straight, they are not robbing Bly's Casino, right? Coz if it is his casino, shouldn't Bly had the code for the safe, therefore they didn't need the safe creacker guy and they at least safe 30 min more (coz in the film they had to wait 30min). If turns out its his casino then this movie just plain stupid, i mean nobody ask for the code to the owner of the safe.
I was wondering about this too! Was it really his casino? Or were they just all dumb
Lol kinda lost me on this 1 I expected a development that never came
Bly wasn't going for the money, he needed soldiers to protect his security guy while he secured the Queen head. The security guy was going to kill them all anyways, Bly didn't want them to survive after his security guy got the head. The vault was a wild goose chase, and maybe he made up some BS to explain why he doesn't have the code for it.
@@TheJuggernaut88 I know what Bly really wants its either Queen's or King's head, i dont question that matter. The problem here is they dont explain why nobody in the group doesn't ask for the code for the safe. Don't you find it wierd to not ask for the code? That's why I want to know if its really Bly's Casino or not.
@@snowlied Ikr.
Zack Snyder confirmed a time loop will factor into the plot of the sequel: Planet of the Dead
I think the safe is trying to find the perfect version of the team where they open the safe, get the cash and get out of there safe. but unfortunately it hasn't found it yet
People called it a shallow pointless movie but they failed to realize it was a Zack Snyder film. It was bought d to mess with your head.
It'll be a cult classic in time.
I'm one of those people... I couldn't get past all the convenient plot devices, obvious 'twists' and dead horse clichés to be inspired enough to care what happens in any potential sequel.
Hahahhahahahhahaha this was a terrible movie. It'd be forgotten just like Sucker Punch.
Only reason Man of Steel is still remembered was because Cavill is a charismatic nerdy hunk
@@Anon-qp3kt 😂🤦♂️
if it was a time loop why would their bodies even be there
It doesn’t show all the bodies. It’s like in a video game when the corpse from your previous death is on the ground with all your gear. It is just the current body not all previous iterations. Maybe a video game speed run time loop.
Exactly
Returnal
*BOOM*
The scene where the dude fights the Zombie and the Zombie knows his every move is a clue
It's like Project Zomboid - you respawn as yourself and can find yourself again. That's why the intro seems like a tutorial / cutscene, then with the music's soft 4th break "watch out Elvis" from Mr. Cheese (yeah it's the lyrics, but we're bending reality here), then the game can begin (again?)...
Also, isn't that them when they enter the casino floor for the dramatic exit? Table towards the middle of the screen. I can't post a screenshot here, but the time is around 1:27 ish and between the slots.
Maybe it's all an alien experience. Tanaka is one of them.
I think they're in a videogame, those bodies were their past avatars who failed the mission.
Can we please talk about the fact, that at least some of the zombies are *mechanical* somehow?! like the one at 1:55:15 in the movie!
Exactly!!!
Zach confirmed it in an interview that some r robots
@@ivy2007
Probably the Goverment?
@@ivy2007 yea
I believe it was a reference to call of duty zombies. How the 4 main characters are stuck in a loop only surving up to a certain round, but when the player figures out the Easter egg the game ends and the characters move on to the next map.
I think they are in a purgatory destined to suffer for their mistakes.
The one reason why we need a sequel 🗿
Also another huge giveaway is that Mariah’s key necklace 4 holes and the one on the dead body has 3 holes
So this is the 4th attempt perhaps... Znyder is meddling with my brain on this one...
@@MagosaDelBiosa me too! And i love it😁
I think if the ending was another time loop, that shows 3 in total in the movie. Also the 3 AKs and the 3 “fighting and dying” tweets from Snyder might also be a clue that AOTD is hopefully 1/3 films
Someone also mentioned that the girls necklace has 4 holes in it. But her skeletons necklace has 3 holes.
Vanderohe really scared the crap out of dieter and Guzman when he explained the loop xD
a zombie apocalypse time travel movie would be so epic!
Finally Zack loved by a studio. He deserves it.
All of this reminds me justice league,like first moving being not that good and second one coming in clutch.keep up the good work zack
Dieter is the one who made the safe. Also the story about the safe are the clues that defines what will happen in the future. Remember it was Greek mythology. The evil zombie king be called Zeus.? Tell it doesn't sounds suspicious
If it is a loop, it explains that helicopter, that had been through some rough shit before
I loved this film, it's not his best but it's still good
Thing I noticed, if you watch the VERY beginning, it shows a timeline. They succeeded in coming back to the quarantine area but 2 people get bitten leaving them crushed by blocks that block the quarantined zone from the city. Personally I thought that was how the movie was going to end but it ended different from what we’re shown from the VERY beginning of the movie. 🧐
Nah that’s just the initial outbreak and them rescuing the secretary of defense
The German guy said this is a gateway to another dimension when looking at the vault blueprint that might mean something
This is easier on my brain than tenet 😁
"ZACK SNYDER shall come again in glory to judge the living and the dead; and His kingdom shall have no end." ❤🙏
what the fuck
@@Despair505 Evil men do not understand justice, but those who seek the Lord Snyder understand it completely.
bro shut up
jesus is king
@@samoanpizza4427 Zack Snyder is The king of kings.
@@skullquarry no hes not. hes a human
Zack is a genius!
I bet this one also calls for A SNYDER CUT.
I have a theory. What if Vanderohe just made everything up? This would mean there is no time loop theory and everything just moves forward. Sorry if this disappoints anyone.
This is why I love Zack and his movies. 🤩🙌🏽
can't wait for the animated film to finally know the entire story
Bruh... Zack Snyder is slowly building his own "comic book-esque" universe on Netflix and I'm all for it. We've got zombies, aliens, multiverse theory, and soon superheroes. Oh boy!
This is a big brain movie. It's mindblowing that you didn't even realize that you just watched a mindblowing plot because you got mindblown by the "crossing the line" zombie tiger.
Just finished this and now it looked up on my screen
Thank you for posting this! Really neat video, I keep thinking about this!!
Just give us a simple coherent storyline about a zombie apocalypse. But NO! You gotta put a zombie society, time loop, cyborg zombies, sequels, prequels and so much more!
Dieter said "It's either Death or Reborn" which is a continues loop
If this theory pans out this means that Zack Snyder might be a genius 🤔
it’s not like it’s a new concept it’s been done before
I swear I completely missed the timeline quote when I watched the movie
Zack is amazing
Lol this isn’t a theory if the official netflix channel posts this
Watch it???? I lost count after watching it 13 times lol
I think the bomb being an hour away is probably just them spending two days doing the mission but they were brought back alive every time they died.