@@monkedude1863 Sin la ayuda de John la Revolución Mexicana Hubiera Perdido, Es mas Cuando John Trabaja Para el Ejército Mexicano, Abraham le dice que Están perdiendo Gracias a él, cuando john "Ayuda" La Revolución Mexicana es la que termina Con la victoria Gracias a el.
@@bluejackyjames1384 durability goes to Arthur he got shot point blank with a double barrel+ mercilessly beaten and tortured and killed all his captors and survived John got shot 10 times but was already dead so it doesn't count as a durability feat
@@mohammedrachdi9376 thinking about it as John had 20 bullets in him and he stand more than 20 seconds and died in rdr1. Plus he took a whole mexican army all by himself while Arthur had to take help to defeat the Spanish army in rdr2 guarma
@@elimsyldog4858 Maybe, but i'm not buying that argument, some game mechanics make every """realistic""" game have it upside down with realism but i dont see myself carrying out 99 of 4 types of alcohol in my bag like arthur and john do, rdr2 may be detailed, but that doesnt mean realistic, in one of the sidemissions of rdr2 you have to chase a tiny guy that can teleport around and pull animals out of his ass, so i'd say both games are unrealistic due to those "game mechanics", unless we can theorize about how a realistic rdr2/1 would look like, then make the it more "realistic" Edit:another thing to add is if we made this game realistic, the characters would've died a lot sooner, for example, where the army has arthur and dutch at gunpoint, they would've just killed them, another one is when milton asked the gang to surrender and they kicked out of the camp, what would've happended is the pinkertons and even the military showed up and massacred them, another one is when john gets captured, milton said he'd given them enough chances, so why didnt they just execute him there?, those characters plot armors add more unrealism to it
@@ImperialStormtrooper-lv4djArthur beat Micah’s ass and died like a boss😂 John would die there And at least Arthur didn’t die infront of his family …..
@@ImperialStormtrooper-lv4djOk, I love John more than Arthur, but there is no way John beats Arthur in a fist fight. Do you even remember melee in RDR1? There is a reason I do not remember fistfights in RDR1.
Finally someone understands the absolute demon named "John Marston" Arthur participated in multiple gang wars and duels, which are impressive because he survived all of them before dying to tuberculosis. But John's a different breed, dude actually canonically carried the Mexican Army, and won against a army.
Arthur still is just as good as john or even better than John he just wasn't given enough time to shine and wasn't in the same scenario as him to shine the same way
@@daniellewis4117 close range - close quarters Arthur wins long range john wins because Arthur is just as accurate as john but he got the fastest draw in all the games
Quick Draw goes to Arthur since, if you played the last mission where Arthur does a stand-off with Micah. If you pay attention you see he outdrew him. Not to mention the fact that he outdrew the famous gunslingers expect for black belle. Accuracy is a tie. Agility goes to John. Edit: Forgot to mention IQ should be a tie and battle IQ tooz
@KEN ŔEEVE agility has nothing to do with agility bro let me explain why john can jump higher run faster thats it agility is when you move quickly and easily john is more skinnier and faster then arthur
@@TheLeperKing178 until the mission where Arthur goes on to fight Angelo bronte he doesn't even cough. Tb becomes a hindrance and takes a toll on him after guarma
People saying Arthur don’t remember/don’t know just how much of a menace John was in rdr1 This is a man who pretty much singlehandedly won the Mexican revolution, has wiped out numerous gangs of outlaws by his lonesome as a bounty hunter, wiped out Bill Williamsons Gang to a man with some minor assistance Fucked up Dutches second gang as well Oh also for Javier, Bill and Dutch Ross sent John to deal with them. To deal with John he sent an entire fucking army to kill him (and uncle too ig) the sheer amount of lead it took to put this man down is wild
Arthur got beaten, tortured and mentally tortured in O Driscolls camp, got shot in the shoulder by a double barrelled shotgun at point blank range which could get rid of your arms still managed to escape the whole gang. Arthur took down most of the US Army, pinkertons and lawmen by himself, fought Micah just 5 minutes away from death and also gave Tommy a freakin brain damage, giving him permanent thinking impairment Still it took everything to take down Arthur. It took US Army, Pinkertons, Lawmen, Micah and Tuberculosis to took him down. Still, Micah was struggling to defeat Arthur, who is just in his deathbed. The beast is wild.
Arthur survives while getting mauled by a bear, saved John's ass like a million times, gave a guy twice his size brain damage, shot up Leviticus Cornwall's entire squadron in Valentine, shot up Strawberry just to save a rat, got shot multiple times by O'Driscolls and once in the shoulder by a nearby rifle, got captured by the O'Driscolls but self-cauterized himself and escaped, snapped someone's neck while escaping, shoots down most of the Pinkertons in the Saint Denis bank robbery (there was a lot), fends off a fort from a battleship, single-handedly destroyed the battleship with a canon, Arthur gets tuberculosis but that does not stop him from riding with the Natives and absolutely decimating the US ARMY, has outgunned gatling guns several times, has quickdraw killed most of the legendary gunslingers, managed to fight Micah despite having tb and would have actually won against Micah if it wasn't for Dutch's intervention
@@Why44400nah his character development was insane in that time span. He's more badass, a better father, a better person, a better draw and a better gunslinger overall
RDR1 John with very little help from Jack and Uncle at the end was able to fight off an army of agents and military personnel just so Abigail and Jack could escape, if John was not willing to die, he would’ve survived. Remember that scene from RDR2 at the end of chapter 3, Milton allowed the gang to escape before he arrives with an army of Pinkertons, the gang fled because they knew that 10+ active gang members couldn’t handle an army of Pinkertons. John at his prime basically did what the Van Der Linde gang couldn’t do. John wins this.
@@elimsyldog4858 first of all I didn’t say siska I’m talking abt the end of Arthur’s story when John escaped and Sadie probably could’ve helped John alone
@@Patatras_5325 john became an outlaw at 12 years old and arthur at 14 not to mention john outlived arthur, so arthur had 22 years and john has 26 years
@@pizza9566 bro john was an outlaw since he was 12 until he was 26 and stopped being an outlaw then and for the next 8 yrs was on the run then he became a rancher for 4 yrs so even of he outlived Arthur Arthur was an outlaw for longer
I think they’re equal on durability since Arthur was tortured and had to endure the symptoms of tuberculosis for a period of time. Meanwhile John gets shot twice and survives a wolf attack.
@@sekmineballe that's endurance not durability, durability is withstanding damage and surviving john didn't survive those 20 bullet wounds but he did endure it for some seconds and was still awake despite the shock and bloodloss
@@sekmineballelast time I checked dying to bullets is not durability, he stood for 45 seconds or so because his brain was in shock, if anything that’s endurance
@@Patatras_5325 Well alright then lets see.. John was shot more than once, with a open gun wound he walked 2 states home, and still fought pinkertons with Arthur, and escaped all in the same day.
Both are extremely capable and powerful. I think it would be a close fight. But if I had to pick one, I think it would be a bit closer to John Marston, due to his superior gun skills. I think Arthur Morgan is strong in physical combat, but Marston has the upper hand in long-range weapon throwing skills. I think the winner would be hurt, but not dead. I think it would be the toughest battle they have ever fought. What do you think?
Best feat Arthur has is fending off Cuban soldiers during chapter 5. While John does that more often with the Mexican military who are arguably more powerful and he does that during a war
John feats: Destroys micah's gang Carried the mexican revolutionaries Destroys dutch's gang (Not van der linde gang) Enters mexico illegally without trouble Killed half of the former van der linde gang members Still breathing after being shot by dozens of us soldiers
No offense to Arthur but I think Johns the best out of the van der line gang he ended it or as he said “I’ll outlive all you” it is pretty interesting to see the gang fall
John killed Javier, Bill, Micah, Cleet, Joe and Dutch what did Arthur do? Cry like a girl after Micah stabs him 😂😂😂😂 Arthur is a 🤡 Cry about it Also, John lived more than Black lung
durability goes to arthur : he survived quite a long time with something tb and was still able to fight micah minutes before dying of his sickness (that is if you get the high honor ending)
@@West_is_Jelqingya. Also epilogue gives all Arthur’s skills to John. So canon wise John in epilogue is end game Arthur skill wise. I think Arthur is a prodigy but John even more so. Remember them saying how Dutch viewed John as his golden boy because of how quick he learned. End game Rdr1 John wins I love Arthur too but someone that plays both and not being biased has to give it to John.
John is just too OP lol! He literally almost Solo'd an army of well over 50 Soldiers, Marshalls, and Federal Agents. He even was surrounded and was able to quickdraw and kill half a dozen people before he died, and the rest only started shooting AFTER he killed them. Literal Superhuman speed! Hell, had he thrown dynamite out thd barn door before charging out, he'd have probably survived. Most would have died from the blast, the rest would have been disoriented and easy pickings. He literally made the US Government look like a little bitch that could only win because he let them.
@@Soccər_Guythe real fight. Strenght Arthur Durability Arthur Endurance john Iq Arthur iq battle Arthur Experience Arthur (24 years) John is 20 of years. ACURRACY John Quick DRAW: Arthur Speed: john AGILITY: John Combat: Arthur Winner? Arthur high diff
@@Soccər_Guy Bro Bully zone is a trash canal. 1 vídeo of bully zone trevor vs Arthur: Winner: ARTHUR. Other vídeo of BULLY zone of Arthur vs Trevor: Winner: trevor Bro what☠️ 2 videos and 1 video is lie Bully zone 💩💩💩
@@Soccər_Guy John no WINS Man what hell ☠️ Bully zone Góes AGILITY.. AGILITY for Arthur ☠️☠️☠️ AGILITY for Arthur ☠️ This vídeo IS purê cap AGILITY for Arthur John AGILITY feats is better. And endurance Góes to John And durability goes to Arthur. This vídeo Is purê cap☠️
@@Vengeance1996I mean John got shot twice and attacked by wolves in start of rdr2 and shot again at end and fell off a speeding train. John is hard af to kill he just keeps coming back 😂😂😂
Most people are saying durability to Arthur yet some dont realize that John got filled with bullets by around 15+ pinkertons and was still standing after it.
I don't think that counts because both of them are able to do the legendary gunslinger but it's up to us if we go playing us Arthur or John and it's exactly the same thing just different protagonist so yeah...but yeah Arthur is good at QuickDraws and same goes to John and both of them have proved it well enough, but I think QuickDraw On RDR1 John is way way faster than Arthur (but that's my opinion I like both protagonist and both of them are good on their own experience)
Strength: Arthur Speed: Arthur (running comparison to both games, Arthur more athletic) IQ: Tie Battle IQ: Arthur (bro fought against Cuban army in guarma while outnumbered) Durability: Arthur (survived TB longer than anyone in time period despite all the working he was doing) Experience: John (RDR1) Quick Draw: Arthur (rockstar said he was faster than Landon ricketts) Accuracy: Arthur Skill: Arthur (eagle eye, feat John doesn’t have) Agility: John Combat: Arthur Stamina: John Endurance: Arthur Reflexes: John Feats: Arthur (eagle eye) Winner? Arthur 9-4 low-mid dif
The two goats
Of rdr
@@Mono_Autophobic video game history
@@Mono_Autophobic Video Game History
@@reddust3308 yes
@@reddust3308Mario And Sonic Laughing Rn
❎: Arthur vs John
✅: Arthur and John
I don't get it
@@Shockkings0714 me either 😂😂
Not John vs Arthur it John and Arthur
@@Djgamer5-5He’s saying that Arthur and John shouldn’t fight. They should remain bros
BROS FOR LIFE
I remember when this game first came out and everyone wanted to play as John, and in the end everyone did not want to leave Arthur.
Rockstar really outdid themselves
He killed Javier, Bill, Micah and Dutch what did Arthur do? Cry like a girl after Micah stabs him 😂😂😂😂
@@ImperialStormtrooper-lv4djArthur saved the all many times he even saved John 😊 and saving is more difficult than killing!
@@ImperialStormtrooper-lv4djbuilding a house in the place where he's wanted dead or alive, pretty smart I see.
@@ahmadjamal200a5That's actually just dumb writing from Rockstar's part.
Prime Marston is an absolute unit
Prime arthur☠️
prime john wins@@anthonybastos1040
@@anthonybastos1040prime John is better than
@@UrielGonzalez-ic1du Non prime Arthur still sh!ts on prime John in h2h combat.
Imagine bringing fists to a gunfight 💀 @@nerdtom4513
RDR1 John is on a different level. My man single handed won the Mexican revolution
No he didn't he helped but didn't do it single handedly
@@monkedude1863 Sin la ayuda de John la Revolución Mexicana Hubiera Perdido, Es mas Cuando John Trabaja Para el Ejército Mexicano, Abraham le dice que Están perdiendo Gracias a él, cuando john "Ayuda" La Revolución Mexicana es la que termina Con la victoria Gracias a el.
@@Dannycs17 i don't understand nacho varga language
@@monkedude1863 para algo existe el Botón de "Traducir" porque yo tampoco Hablo el idioma "Tiroteo Escolar".
@@monkedude1863 🤡
Battle IQ goes to Arthur
@@vegetasticknodes27 explain
@@vegetasticknodes27 not experience
@@vegetasticknodes27 Jesus, have you played RDR1 or are you just making assumptions?
@@vegetasticknodes27 not durability And john slams Arthur
@@bluejackyjames1384 durability goes to Arthur he got shot point blank with a double barrel+ mercilessly beaten and tortured and killed all his captors and survived John got shot 10 times but was already dead so it doesn't count as a durability feat
Rdr2 fans know him as John, Rdr1 OG's know him as Mr. Marston
You mean Jim Milton
Yeah man, for me John is the face of Red Dead
@@mr.noname5731relatable
Hell yeah!
@@mr.noname5731 Arthur has taken that place
Stamina to john
Im currently replaying rdr1
And damn it he never tires
also john is skinnier than arthur, as arthur is a muscular buils person, so arthur would need to move more weight than john
@@Modelta but to think about it arthur robbed the train then saved abigail then saved john then fought micah all while having tb
@@mohammedrachdi9376 true
I never skip Cardio
@@mohammedrachdi9376 thinking about it as John had 20 bullets in him and he stand more than 20 seconds and died in rdr1. Plus he took a whole mexican army all by himself while Arthur had to take help to defeat the Spanish army in rdr2 guarma
But John can’t swim, Arthur can
just because he can’t swim doesn’t mean he isn’t good at fighting
He can just shoot Arthur while he’s swimming lol. He’s called a gunslinger for a reason.
Where do you even need swimming??
Arthur doggy paddles for 18 seconds bruh
@@DreadRobby Arthur would just need to throw some water on John's face and he'd instantly die lmao
John marston in rdr1 is another level bro.
Fr he so badass
@@West_is_Jelqingnah arthur in chapter kill overkill red dead redemption 1
@@West_is_Jelqing Arthur is more badass though in personality
@@anthonybastos1040Guess you never played rdr 1
@@anthonybastos1040John Marston>>>>exército mexicano
John got shot, fell off a train, and walked three states home. He takes endurance.
He fell off half way to annesburg
John also takes stamina bc in rdr1 stamina is infinite
not to mention he survived like 15 bullets for a good 5 mins
@@pakas3274 It's just terrible game mechanics. 'infinite Energy' sounds ridiculous.
@@elimsyldog4858 Maybe, but i'm not buying that argument, some game mechanics make every """realistic""" game have it upside down with realism but i dont see myself carrying out 99 of 4 types of alcohol in my bag like arthur and john do, rdr2 may be detailed, but that doesnt mean realistic, in one of the sidemissions of rdr2 you have to chase a tiny guy that can teleport around and pull animals out of his ass, so i'd say both games are unrealistic due to those "game mechanics", unless we can theorize about how a realistic rdr2/1 would look like, then make the it more "realistic"
Edit:another thing to add is if we made this game realistic, the characters would've died a lot sooner, for example, where the army has arthur and dutch at gunpoint, they would've just killed them, another one is when milton asked the gang to surrender and they kicked out of the camp, what would've happended is the pinkertons and even the military showed up and massacred them, another one is when john gets captured, milton said he'd given them enough chances, so why didnt they just execute him there?, those characters plot armors add more unrealism to it
Rdr1 John was cold af
Arthur would still win though.
@@H.K.5 in swimming yes
John is such a badass that it took an entire army to kill him.
It took a deadly disease to take down Arthur
Not even an army can
Even then, the only got him because John let them so they would leave Jack and Abigail alone
@@namedclaiming821He had to be nerfed or he would have destroyed the gang 💀
@@namedclaiming821Arthur Died in a 1v1 Bro 😂
@@namedclaiming821what Arthur died to 1 man and John could’ve survived if he wanted but he didn’t wanna put jack and Abigail in danger anymore
us Arthur fans have to admit how fucked up and strong John was in rdr 1
us bro us 🛐
Bro no
@@knitghfallvader2280 Bro yes.
Meh
@@Strangeminds38 bro no
As much as I love Arthur but RDR1 John was a beast
Arthur in blackwater >>>>> John 1911
He killed Javier, Bill, Micah and Dutch what did Arthur do? Cry like a girl after Micah stabs him 😂😂😂😂
@@ImperialStormtrooper-lv4djArthur beat Micah’s ass and died like a boss😂
John would die there
And at least Arthur didn’t die infront of his family …..
@@namedclaiming821at least John saw Jack grow up 💀
if not for arthur john wouldve died multiple times... john vs arthur would never happen idk why people are even fighting @@samarvir126
Gunfight: John
Fistfight: Arthur
Gunfight: John
Fistfight: John
@@ImperialStormtrooper-lv4djfan boy
@@ImperialStormtrooper-lv4djOk, I love John more than Arthur, but there is no way John beats Arthur in a fist fight. Do you even remember melee in RDR1? There is a reason I do not remember fistfights in RDR1.
Gun fight : Arthur
The guy literally takes down the majority of gangs by himself.
@@elimsyldog4858Fanboy
Finally someone understands the absolute demon named "John Marston"
Arthur participated in multiple gang wars and duels, which are impressive because he survived all of them before dying to tuberculosis.
But John's a different breed, dude actually canonically carried the Mexican Army, and won against a army.
Arthur still is just as good as john or even better than John he just wasn't given enough time to shine and wasn't in the same scenario as him to shine the same way
@@Patatras_5325RDR1 John beats Arthur, stop fanboying over Arthur.
@@finleydoyle4913 Arthur is far stronger in many ways lol just look at the facts
@@Patatras_5325 in a gun fight john wins
@@daniellewis4117 close range - close quarters Arthur wins long range john wins because Arthur is just as accurate as john but he got the fastest draw in all the games
Quick Draw goes to Arthur since, if you played the last mission where Arthur does a stand-off with Micah. If you pay attention you see he outdrew him. Not to mention the fact that he outdrew the famous gunslingers expect for black belle.
Accuracy is a tie. Agility goes to John.
Edit: Forgot to mention IQ should be a tie and battle IQ tooz
@KEN ŔEEVE agility has nothing to do with agility bro let me explain why
john can jump higher
run faster
thats it
agility is when you move quickly and easily
john is more skinnier and faster then arthur
Well I played both games and i think Arthur moves faster and i don't know if it like 100% a fact because i haven't had them side by side
@KEN ŔEEVE Arthur's seem faster imo i dunno why lol
@@slangmyshang9653 “agility has nothing to do with agility” 💀
@@Patatras_5325 To me the seem like the same speed. But then again gameplay is not canon according to these guys.
I mean the Mexico arc of RDR1 basically cements John as a fucking god among men
@ruminantdastellar7740we saw prime arthur in chapters 1-4
@@LuunieTuunie in only chapter 1-2 in 3-4 he got TB
@@TheLeperKing178 until the mission where Arthur goes on to fight Angelo bronte he doesn't even cough. Tb becomes a hindrance and takes a toll on him after guarma
Props to Hosea and Dutch, who created this two legends
Feats go to Arthur bc he saved John’s life
Nah feats go to Arthur cuz john can't swim lol
@@randomdude8846 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@@randomdude8846 🗿🗿🗿
John literally fought the entire revolution in mexico
do u even know what feats is? ☠️
People saying Arthur don’t remember/don’t know just how much of a menace John was in rdr1
This is a man who pretty much singlehandedly won the Mexican revolution, has wiped out numerous gangs of outlaws by his lonesome as a bounty hunter, wiped out Bill Williamsons Gang to a man with some minor assistance
Fucked up Dutches second gang as well
Oh also for Javier, Bill and Dutch Ross sent John to deal with them. To deal with John he sent an entire fucking army to kill him (and uncle too ig) the sheer amount of lead it took to put this man down is wild
Arthur got beaten, tortured and mentally tortured in O Driscolls camp, got shot in the shoulder by a double barrelled shotgun at point blank range which could get rid of your arms still managed to escape the whole gang.
Arthur took down most of the US Army, pinkertons and lawmen by himself, fought Micah just 5 minutes away from death and also gave Tommy a freakin brain damage, giving him permanent thinking impairment
Still it took everything to take down Arthur. It took US Army, Pinkertons, Lawmen, Micah and Tuberculosis to took him down. Still, Micah was struggling to defeat Arthur, who is just in his deathbed.
The beast is wild.
Nah uncle out there killed 10 or more of ross's army he's the true goat🗿
@@coffeefueled9879 so true
Arthur survives while getting mauled by a bear, saved John's ass like a million times, gave a guy twice his size brain damage, shot up Leviticus Cornwall's entire squadron in Valentine, shot up Strawberry just to save a rat, got shot multiple times by O'Driscolls and once in the shoulder by a nearby rifle, got captured by the O'Driscolls but self-cauterized himself and escaped, snapped someone's neck while escaping, shoots down most of the Pinkertons in the Saint Denis bank robbery (there was a lot), fends off a fort from a battleship, single-handedly destroyed the battleship with a canon, Arthur gets tuberculosis but that does not stop him from riding with the Natives and absolutely decimating the US ARMY, has outgunned gatling guns several times, has quickdraw killed most of the legendary gunslingers, managed to fight Micah despite having tb and would have actually won against Micah if it wasn't for Dutch's intervention
@@Ravvox Rightly analysed.
alternate version: They never fight because they're brothers.
He killed Javier, Bill, Micah and Dutch what did Arthur do? Cry like a girl after Micah stabs him 😂😂😂😂
@@ImperialStormtrooper-lv4djshut up
@@ImperialStormtrooper-lv4djJohn also killed Micheal and the head of mexican army..
@@ImperialStormtrooper-lv4djget a life bro😂
@ImperialStormtrooper-lv4dj You chose the low honor ending, didn't you
BOTH ARE GREAT 🔥🔥🔥
John killed Javier, Bill, Micah and Dutch what did Arthur do? Cry like a girl after Micah stabs him 😂😂😂😂 Arthur is a 🤡
Meanwhile john having infinite stamina.
Not canob
Yes, I was an Arthur's fanboy but if you think John has done things better, in rdr1 he was unstoppable and didn't have black lungs
Just because he looks cool doesn't mean he is a better draw tbh hes the same as he was in the first game
@@Why44400nah his character development was insane in that time span. He's more badass, a better father, a better person, a better draw and a better gunslinger overall
@@West_is_Jelqing wtf does all that have to do with anything fighting related
@@West_is_Jelqing he can barely beat random NPC sow idk wtf are u talking about
@@West_is_Jelqing WTF DOES THAT MATTER
You should’ve given arthur a point for “can swim”
He swims for 10 seconds then drowns lmaoo. Ain't much better if u ask me.
@@West_is_Jelqingtrue, but with iq, skill, stamina, agility that should go to john, i can let a free point to arthur
And sketching
He killed Javier, Bill, Micah and Dutch what did Arthur do? Cry like a girl after Micah stabs him 😂😂😂😂
Shoulda given John a point for breathing without coughing
Arthur would be proud of John growing even stronger than him.
John is still weaker
@@CadeNicholsNot really.
@@zombiekiller4313 he is definitely
@@CadeNichols Powerful enough to turn the tides of war.I disagree heavily.
@@zombiekiller4313Arthur is strong enough to beat up a 7 ft giant so...
Reflexes goes to Arthur there is many times in the game where Arthur only has seconds to draw his gun and shoot
more like milliseconds
Gun fight = John
Fist fight = Arthur
Arthur is twice the man John will ever be. John owes Arthur a lot, and Arthur helped shape John to be who he turned out
No he isn't.John died for his family while arthur chose a egomaniac over his.John is a way better man.Hosea and dutch shaped john,not arthur.
Shut your ass up fan go crawl back in your mom's hole @@zombiekiller4313
@@zombiekiller4313stfu just shut up
The Best Edit Of Arthur Vs John.
Brothers don't fight. 🗿
John killed Javier, Bill, Micah and Dutch what did Arthur do? Cry like a girl after Micah stabs him 😂😂😂😂 Arthur is a 🤡
RDR1 John with very little help from Jack and Uncle at the end was able to fight off an army of agents and military personnel just so Abigail and Jack could escape, if John was not willing to die, he would’ve survived. Remember that scene from RDR2 at the end of chapter 3, Milton allowed the gang to escape before he arrives with an army of Pinkertons, the gang fled because they knew that 10+ active gang members couldn’t handle an army of Pinkertons. John at his prime basically did what the Van Der Linde gang couldn’t do. John wins this.
Also ppl gotta stop saying that Arthur is the main reason John escaped yeah he helped but John would’ve escaped regardless
@@GuhnnasHow was John going to escape Cicika without the help of Arthur? 💀
@@elimsyldog4858 first of all I didn’t say siska I’m talking abt the end of Arthur’s story when John escaped and Sadie probably could’ve helped John alone
im a big fan of arthur morgan myself but some people just cant understand the things john was able to do in the first game
Like what y'all make it seem like this nigga was superman
There is no rdr1 without Arthur saving johns ass like 3 times in rdr2
@@Htown_babyyyyyArthur doesn’t even exist in the rdr1 storyline so that’s not true
John killed Javier, Bill, Micah and Dutch what did Arthur do? Cry like a girl after Micah stabs him 😂😂😂😂 Arthur is a 🤡 Cry about it@@Htown_babyyyyy
@@Htown_babyyyyy there wouldnt be rdr2 if rdr1 wasnt
Both are great but bruh 💀 quickdraw goes to arthur
And experience
No, it doesn't.
@@NorthTexasNewYork yes experience goes to Arthur he's been an outlaw for 22yrs John only 17~yrs
@@Patatras_5325 john became an outlaw at 12 years old and arthur at 14 not to mention john outlived arthur, so arthur had 22 years and john has 26 years
@@pizza9566 bro john was an outlaw since he was 12 until he was 26 and stopped being an outlaw then and for the next 8 yrs was on the run then he became a rancher for 4 yrs so even of he outlived Arthur Arthur was an outlaw for longer
Two Goats don ‘t figth 💀
Fight
Anyone that thinks Prime Arthur > Prime John has never played RDR1
Yes we have arthur wins
@@ÕkamiMeansWolfnah lol u clearly didn’t play rdr1
@@hardy7357 Arthur's canonically faster
@@ÕkamiMeansWolfno he is not I get it you played rdr2 first you’ll always see Arthur better than all the characters but you gotta admit rdr1 John wins
@@Guhnnas Nope, I started with rdr1 and then played rdr2
I think they’re equal on durability since Arthur was tortured and had to endure the symptoms of tuberculosis for a period of time. Meanwhile John gets shot twice and survives a wolf attack.
Durability would go to John no question, he got shot 20 times and was still living for 30 seconds
@@sekmineballe that's endurance not durability, durability is withstanding damage and surviving john didn't survive those 20 bullet wounds but he did endure it for some seconds and was still awake despite the shock and bloodloss
That was in rdr2 alone.
@@sekmineballelast time I checked dying to bullets is not durability, he stood for 45 seconds or so because his brain was in shock, if anything that’s endurance
@@Patatras_5325 Well alright then lets see.. John was shot more than once, with a open gun wound he walked 2 states home, and still fought pinkertons with Arthur, and escaped all in the same day.
This shouldn’t even be a comparison both are goats 🔥🔥
John killed Javier, Bill, Micah and Dutch what did Arthur do? Cry like a girl after Micah stabs him 😂😂😂😂 Arthur is a 🤡
Arthur < John
Both are extremely capable and powerful. I think it would be a close fight. But if I had to pick one, I think it would be a bit closer to John Marston, due to his superior gun skills. I think Arthur Morgan is strong in physical combat, but Marston has the upper hand in long-range weapon throwing skills. I think the winner would be hurt, but not dead. I think it would be the toughest battle they have ever fought. What do you think?
Rdr john never misses. everyone in rdr2 got sh sh sh shaky ass hands
John was a master at everything required of a genuine cowboy gunslinger
John literally was a one man army. People forget his feats
Best feat Arthur has is fending off Cuban soldiers during chapter 5. While John does that more often with the Mexican military who are arguably more powerful and he does that during a war
Arthur is wiser and more of a mentor. John is like his student
John is a student of Dutch and Hosea. Arthur is just his brother
John killed Javier, Bill, Micah and Dutch what did Arthur do? Cry like a girl after Micah stabs him 😂😂😂😂 Arthur is a 🤡
where the fuck did you come up with that im geniully curious. What exactly did John learn from Arthur?
Arthur meeatriders logic😂😂😂😂 @@badsie1
Arthur = hand to hand fight
John = gun fight
John has the superior story and is the superior character.
@@IDKBRO5025Johns story has simple themes but the setting and characters help elevate it a lot
Stamina goes to John in rdr1 John has infinite stamina
Goats dont fight against each other They fight with each other
John feats:
Destroys micah's gang
Carried the mexican revolutionaries
Destroys dutch's gang (Not van der linde gang)
Enters mexico illegally without trouble
Killed half of the former van der linde gang members
Still breathing after being shot by dozens of us soldiers
No offense to Arthur but I think Johns the best out of the van der line gang he ended it or as he said “I’ll outlive all you” it is pretty interesting to see the gang fall
Yep John was there at 12 year old at the very start of the gang. Went through all of it. And then ended it. Great character.
Brother's would never kill each other
John >Arthur midgan
Seeing this hurts my heart.. they should only be bros and nothing less
John killed Javier, Bill, Micah, Cleet, Joe and Dutch what did Arthur do? Cry like a girl after Micah stabs him 😂😂😂😂 Arthur is a 🤡 Cry about it Also, John lived more than Black lung
@@ImperialStormtrooper-lv4dj nice troll comment lol
@@ImperialStormtrooper-lv4dj this sounds like a comment that Micah would actually write ironically
Im not a Troll im telling the truth@@Zyjuila
@@ImperialStormtrooper-lv4dj sure
I think Endurance goes to John, he literally survived +20 Army Gun shots
Endurance means stamina u dumb nut and he didn’t survive he died 💀🤦🏿
Arthur's agility combat stamina and endurance over John is crazy 💀
Durability, Accuracy, Battle IQ, Reflexes and feats go to Arthur
I’d give John agility
Real
Arthur < John
1911 John wins
The man practically became a one man army
rip van winkle has a place in my hearth but arthur callahan has a place in my soul
durability goes to arthur : he survived quite a long time with something tb and was still able to fight micah minutes before dying of his sickness (that is if you get the high honor ending)
what abt the wolf attack, being shot on 3 seperate occasions, then still standing for around half a minute after being shot repeatedly by the us army
@@yfernandthey r just 2 biased to understand
@@West_is_Jelqingya. Also epilogue gives all Arthur’s skills to John. So canon wise John in epilogue is end game Arthur skill wise. I think Arthur is a prodigy but John even more so. Remember them saying how Dutch viewed John as his golden boy because of how quick he learned. End game Rdr1 John wins I love Arthur too but someone that plays both and not being biased has to give it to John.
John Marston at his best was just like Arthur. They are both goats, man
IQ to John..
Arthur says to Hosea that John was a quicker learner than he was
John is just too OP lol! He literally almost Solo'd an army of well over 50 Soldiers, Marshalls, and Federal Agents. He even was surrounded and was able to quickdraw and kill half a dozen people before he died, and the rest only started shooting AFTER he killed them. Literal Superhuman speed! Hell, had he thrown dynamite out thd barn door before charging out, he'd have probably survived. Most would have died from the blast, the rest would have been disoriented and easy pickings. He literally made the US Government look like a little bitch that could only win because he let them.
Exactly and these kids be saying Arthur solos 💀💀💀
@@Soccər_Guythe real fight.
Strenght Arthur
Durability Arthur
Endurance john
Iq Arthur
iq battle Arthur
Experience Arthur (24 years)
John is 20 of years.
ACURRACY John
Quick DRAW: Arthur
Speed: john
AGILITY: John
Combat: Arthur
Winner? Arthur high diff
@@Soccər_Guy Bro Bully zone is a trash canal.
1 vídeo of bully zone trevor vs Arthur: Winner: ARTHUR.
Other vídeo of BULLY zone of Arthur vs Trevor:
Winner: trevor
Bro what☠️
2 videos and 1 video is lie
Bully zone 💩💩💩
@@anthonybastos1040bro Tgtme even said John won 💀💀💀 tf you yapping about
@@Soccər_Guy John no WINS Man what hell ☠️
Bully zone Góes AGILITY..
AGILITY for Arthur ☠️☠️☠️
AGILITY for Arthur ☠️ This vídeo IS purê cap
AGILITY for Arthur
John AGILITY feats is better.
And endurance Góes to John
And durability goes to Arthur.
This vídeo Is purê cap☠️
Then there is Jack 🕺
I think what really made John get the upper hand was Landon Ricketts, John got much stronger after training with him
Gunfight: John
Fistfight: John
Cannot get enough of these 🔥
Even though Arthur is slower than John in deadeye, his deadeye sound really shows him that he is not a man to messed with.
feats go to Arthur my boy killed all the legendary gunslingers
Yes but John was shot by 15 people and he was still standing for a bit then he died to injuries.
Not a feat at all. They were all frauds
@@user-hx6gs9rq7u did you play the game?
you can do that mission as John 🤡🤡
Gunfight: John
Fistfight: John
Winner
Neither because brothers don’t fight 🐐🐐
Cringe
Arthur < John
@@RiodeJaneiroRoleplayRobloxyes but in dreamsb
Arthur morgan sucks
Both are legends
I love them all😢😢😢😢
If you guys played RDR1, You would know John is a literal beast I mean he literally helped win the Mexican revolution.
W edit💪🗿
Arthur < John
John in rdr1 was smarter and more ruthless,he just straight up kill you to save his family
Endurance goes to John guy survived multiple gunshots from close range and still stood
That was for cinematic effect
@@Vengeance1996 yup
@@Vengeance1996and?
@@West_is_Jelqing it doesn't matter if he survived it for 30 seconds. It's not physically possible, they did it to make it dramatic.
@@Vengeance1996I mean John got shot twice and attacked by wolves in start of rdr2 and shot again at end and fell off a speeding train. John is hard af to kill he just keeps coming back 😂😂😂
Arthur goat. Arthur winner
@@tak-mv8qj Arthur has 2 Wifes. Arthur winner.
Yeah and one of em is dead, same with his son. Again John winner
@@tak-mv8qj Same with John his wife is dead after his death. While Arthur's one of wifes is still alive so, Arthur is winner again.
Yeah but Abigail is in Red Dead 1 and 2. So again John wins.
AND John has his own zombie game.
For the endurance one:
Arthur took a fight while dying of a disease
John survived for 30 something seconds after being shot with over 50 rounds
Yeah compare their staminas when arthur has tb😂
Arthur < John
John gets stamina.
Even if John wins,Arthur touched our hearts
Arthur is best
No he isnt cry about it
Arthur >>>>>>
arthur=john
stop fanboying
Glazin
John is durable Arthur is resilient
Stamina goes to john, when you get Tuberculosis you cant run five feet without your stamina running out
but this is pre tb arthur
Ofc this post is referring to a pre tb Arthur, else combat endurance and pretty much everything would go to marston
Black Lung 🤡🤡
Most people are saying durability to Arthur yet some dont realize that John got filled with bullets by around 15+ pinkertons and was still standing after it.
He died because of it wdym
And he was whining over a wolf bite
@@ÕkamiMeansWolf Anyone would complain if they were scarred in the face by a wolf I guarantee Arthur would do the same
@@nottyler4212 Arthur wouldn't be on a Cliffside waiting to die in the cold
@@nottyler4212 i doubt it tbh because Arthur was shot at by a shotgun tortured and cauterized his wounds and yet he didn't whine at all
Bro gave experience to John
Yes he lived longer 😂
Arthur High diff, Arthur also gets battle IQ, and quick draw, accuracy is a tie
John mid diffs
@@captainvaughnidk hell naw it's probably extreme diff either way
Don't forget experience Arthur has more years of being an outlaw than john so he knows far more
@@Patatras_5325 no he doesn't
John was a outlaw sense 12
Arthur was a. Outlaw sense 14
Arthur even said Marston learned faster
Nah bro John gets battle iq
Gooooood edit bro,
Please leo Kasper Manhunt 2 vs Trevor GTA 5
Leo low diff
Yes
Leo Kasper Mid-high difficulty
The 2 greatest video game characters of all time
Battle iq, quick draw goes to Arthur, he won in a duel with many legendary gunslingers
John was trained by Landon Ricketts
@@Twizzlermanga9874 don’t care, 1 gunslinger vs many of them , also he was trained by Dutch , hosea and callander
They all had to cheat lmao none of them are as good as they’re made out to be
the legendary gun slingers were either drunk, retired, one was literally insane and one used a knife instead of a gun
Song name ?
Heartbeat by childish gambino
Just a reminder Arthur is a fuckin Beast he had TB and still manage to be a monster
w edit bro and the two goats
Goats do not fight ✅✅
When it comes to his family, John will do ANYTHING to keep them safe. Even if that means hunting down the people he once considered brothers.
The Arthur fanboys are butt hurt
Fr 😂 they are mad
@@backlandjbreaker24not really Arthur beats 1911 John you know John had to get trained by two legendary gunslingers Arthur beats him
John trash fans makinm john trash like them
Quick draw easily goes to Arthur and accuracy is equal
Also experience because Arthur has 22yrs of being an outlaw under his belt whilst John only has about 17~
@@Patatras_5325 have u not played rdr1?
@@Thedarkness-10210 i have 100% it
@@Patatras_5325 Arthur doesn't get experience against rdr1 John, John has more experience.
@@Thedarkness-10210 john has less than 17 yrs of experience as an outlaw Arthur has 22+yrs as an outlaw wdym
John literally has infinite stamina
Horrible game mechanics. Comparable to GTA 5 infinite gas. 😂
good video bro
Quick draw goes to Arthur he out drew 4 legends in quick drawing
They all had to cheat lmao none of them are as good as they were made out to be. Calloway even shot slim grant in the back
Two of them cheated so really he only defeated one which was midnight. And belle doesn’t even try to fight you so
I don't think that counts because both of them are able to do the legendary gunslinger but it's up to us if we go playing us Arthur or John and it's exactly the same thing just different protagonist so yeah...but yeah Arthur is good at QuickDraws and same goes to John and both of them have proved it well enough, but I think QuickDraw On RDR1 John is way way faster than Arthur (but that's my opinion I like both protagonist and both of them are good on their own experience)
Strength: Arthur
Speed: Arthur (running comparison to both games, Arthur more athletic)
IQ: Tie
Battle IQ: Arthur (bro fought against Cuban army in guarma while outnumbered)
Durability: Arthur (survived TB longer than anyone in time period despite all the working he was doing)
Experience: John (RDR1)
Quick Draw: Arthur (rockstar said he was faster than Landon ricketts)
Accuracy: Arthur
Skill: Arthur (eagle eye, feat John doesn’t have)
Agility: John
Combat: Arthur
Stamina: John
Endurance: Arthur
Reflexes: John
Feats: Arthur (eagle eye)
Winner?
Arthur 9-4 low-mid dif
Can you tag me in where rockstar said he was faster then landon rickets