I've thought about this a lot recently. There are so many good science champs its honestly hard to choose between them. On one hand, it allows players to choose their favorite science champion since they are all so good. On the other hand, I understand that an entire class destroying everyone isnt necessarily a good thing for the game. But Im scared of the toxicity level of the next Skill champion defender needed to correct the path 😢
It doesn’t have to go that way Kabam can correct it in 1 month release new good skill and mystic attackers buff already existing mystic tech mutant champion One massive overhaul can change the game
Trust me Nagase, I was the only guy who ranked up Luke Cage before the buff and was enjoying playing him. But, after the buff, he got a nice damage ramp... I am currently the Sasquatch Slayer in AWs😂. 🔥
I'm soo happy Red Guardian got the buff he deserves I hate Midcage lol. Red Guardian all day baby. And remember they nerfed Red Guardians original buff😊
I don't think it's a huge problem. The only thing that makes the science class seem as good as it is right now, is that we've seen a lot of great science champs come out after the introduction of 7*s - meaning, all of these top-tier science champs are available as 7*s. If all of the different classes' best champions were available as 7*s, we'd probably not have a discussion about the science class being lopsided. How much wouldn't an r3 Hit-Monkey tear through? How annoyingly beefy wouldn't an r3 Apocalypse be? Just imagine how annoying an r3 version of Future Ant-Man would be, or if we're talking about the mystic class, Man-Thing or Mephisto. And I haven't even talked about the biggest, monumental elephant in the room: the cosmic class. We have almost none of the best cosmic champions available as 7*s. No Hulkling, no Galan, no CGR, and obviously no Hercules. While no, there hasn't been an incredibly broken mystic defender in a while, all of these science champions came out as a response to a lot of broken mystic defenders already being in the game. We're basically seeing the science equivalent of how a lot of cosmic attackers came out in response to Peni a few years back. They're not just there to be over-the-top crazy good on attack - they're there to solve a problem the science class was having. The pendulum will swing back in time, I'm sure.
@@Brei.Trippin. Cosmic still has knull Adam Odin hype cgr Angela galan Capt sparkles gamora and even champs like venompool do mad damage. Cosmic is right up there with science class. There's a bunch of OP cosmic champs. Even og Thor ascended with abs and stryfe synergy is wrecking fights with 15 hits..
@@Brei.Trippin. Cosmic still has knull Adam Odin hype cgr Angela galan Capt sparkles gamora and even champs like venompool do mad damage. Cosmic is right up there with science class. There's a bunch of OP cosmic champs. Even og Thor ascended with abs and stryfe synergy is wrecking fights with 15 hits..
yeah, whenever human yorch is a good option. he is still just a beast. dont use him too often. but any boss that has energy base attacks or incinerates without really high energy resist. he is still one of the best options
I think this has been such a longstanding issue at this point that we need a couple of skill defenders that are just completely Debuff immune when fighting science attackers, that's where their control comes from. This video also goes a long way to credit Kabam's recent decision to have those top tier defenders introduced, though it'll be interesting to see over time how Serpent gets handled by some of these top tier champs
It made little sense to me to do Red Guardian then Luke. Happy for the buffs. But a bit odd. Also I’d love an OG Cap buff….but yeah. He could/should be a great dual threat.
While true yes, there ia something we should remember, science besides photon doesnt really have defender, its fine to have good attackers when thats all you have really
Youre also playing RG unoptimally You can get the trauma debuff right away at the start of the fight by just blocking a heavy attack with no loss. 30 second BG fights go brr
Skill literally has an option on hand for every OP science champ. The only problem as I see it is more OP champs from the other classes need to be released as 7stars, that’s where the imbalance lies.
Every class has this weird cadence they go on where there WAYYY to weak and that last for about two years. Then it seems that they just release banger after banger for that class. THE AGE OF MUTANTS IS COMING!!
Cosmic as well it's super powerful with Hercules and CGR. Science is a jack of all trades with both utility and damage. Also from the video it looks like you want these science champs to get nerfed.
its an old trend. for a while mystic was the best defensive class. for a while was cosmic the best class. then mutant. and now it has been science for a bit. and ofcourse this trend seems more and more crazy. but champs over all are getting better and better so that probably has a big part in it. kabam hasnt really ever been about staying balanced. there is and probably will always be a bit unbalanced. they tend to overcompensate
This literally sounded like a video to Kabam to please nerf the Science class. I don’t get what we are supposed to hope for the game to go back to majority meme tier champs. This is coming from one of the very best players in this game. Don’t forget Nagase that these champs seem this way in your very capable hands. There is skill and knowledge involved in using these champs to perform like you are showing and that’s not the standard bro. Not everyone is as good as you are or knowledgeable about the game as you are with champion mechanics. And this is not a dig at you personally just remember that not everyone can make the game look as easy as you do.
no it's not because not everyone have all those options if a whale have all the champs it's not the game. it's about having options the better the champs are the more the options
Whats the point though how hard do we want mystic defenders to be i agree kabam hasn't evened it out yet they had to give us more annoying skill and Mutant defenders first lmao. But 65 seconds is considered like an okay fight in what is kinda of a nuke meta but i agree we need better mystics for sure. I like the Science class where it is its just so uneven when talking about the other classes especially Mystic. 😊
This is true. But your presenting it like it's a problem. It's not. This has happened with so many classes before. Like specific champs, their time ends. Science was the weakest not long ago
For my ranking in science : 1 Photon 2 Hulk 3 Titania 4 silk 5 human torch But I am still confused between top 3 😂 I love photon bcz I easily kill doom,absorbing man but human torch can take doom and many of the mystic but photo is best for me in absorbing man fight
Don’t hate on me but I feel like tech the weakest and has been the most undermined class since the start of the game , if you look at anyone’s roster , they only like maybe 3 techs , shuri, hulk buster , red skull , maybe starky , everyone else kinda fell off
The title doesn't make any sense. The same situation happened with the Mutant class and after that the Cosmic class being OP. If they want to nerf the Science class Kabam can easily do that. Just like they nerf Hercules for Necropolis. The Science class is not even great for Incursion. They are at least 4 champions that are far better in Incursion than any champions in the Science class. 1. Angela 2. Hela 3. Aegon 4. Hercules
"Silk is broken" lol. Silk is so broken she had to be nerf. Ooh never mind. I do want to say might be top 10 in Incursion but has many flaws. Silk has no immunities and doesn't have Regen. She is not damage mastery friendly and can't handle like 100 straight fights by herself.
Science class 5 years ago: I'm too weak......
Science class now: UNLIMITED POWER!
They just make science so fuckin good, it’s like mystic back in the day
I've thought about this a lot recently. There are so many good science champs its honestly hard to choose between them.
On one hand, it allows players to choose their favorite science champion since they are all so good. On the other hand, I understand that an entire class destroying everyone isnt necessarily a good thing for the game.
But Im scared of the toxicity level of the next Skill champion defender needed to correct the path 😢
We might’ve already gotten that in bullseye
It doesn’t have to go that way Kabam can correct it in 1 month release new good skill and mystic attackers buff already existing mystic tech mutant champion
One massive overhaul can change the game
@@065harieshkumarn8 just like iron man
They've been designing all science champs for war & bgs but other classes for story type content aka useless
good yap video 10/10
Lmao
I kinda agree with you about that Sassy fight, but I also think your opponent was a fool not to ban a r3 Silk being the nuke she is.
Trust me Nagase, I was the only guy who ranked up Luke Cage before the buff and was enjoying playing him. But, after the buff, he got a nice damage ramp... I am currently the Sasquatch Slayer in AWs😂. 🔥
If kabam starts making Mystic stun immune im blaming you 😂.
I'm soo happy Red Guardian got the buff he deserves I hate Midcage lol. Red Guardian all day baby. And remember they nerfed Red Guardians original buff😊
Titania won't care
I don't think it's a huge problem. The only thing that makes the science class seem as good as it is right now, is that we've seen a lot of great science champs come out after the introduction of 7*s - meaning, all of these top-tier science champs are available as 7*s.
If all of the different classes' best champions were available as 7*s, we'd probably not have a discussion about the science class being lopsided. How much wouldn't an r3 Hit-Monkey tear through? How annoyingly beefy wouldn't an r3 Apocalypse be? Just imagine how annoying an r3 version of Future Ant-Man would be, or if we're talking about the mystic class, Man-Thing or Mephisto.
And I haven't even talked about the biggest, monumental elephant in the room: the cosmic class. We have almost none of the best cosmic champions available as 7*s. No Hulkling, no Galan, no CGR, and obviously no Hercules.
While no, there hasn't been an incredibly broken mystic defender in a while, all of these science champions came out as a response to a lot of broken mystic defenders already being in the game. We're basically seeing the science equivalent of how a lot of cosmic attackers came out in response to Peni a few years back. They're not just there to be over-the-top crazy good on attack - they're there to solve a problem the science class was having. The pendulum will swing back in time, I'm sure.
Infamous iron man lowkey cracked
Ah old forgotten champ... antivenom is very powerfull
I agree, Science is so stacked right now
Yes! But not if you don't pull any of them. My science roster is weeeak
Such a great point
Yeah well they should be releasing more champs from other classes
Yeah mutant and tech need love
@@steezyhaha1163tech needs some love man😂
I just feel soo satisfied having a 7* r3 sig 40 hulk lol
Cosmic will always be the most broken
If you don’t have herc, cosmic will be one of the worst.
@@Brei.Trippin. Cosmic still has knull Adam Odin hype cgr Angela galan Capt sparkles gamora and even champs like venompool do mad damage. Cosmic is right up there with science class. There's a bunch of OP cosmic champs. Even og Thor ascended with abs and stryfe synergy is wrecking fights with 15 hits..
@@Brei.Trippin. Cosmic still has knull Adam Odin hype cgr Angela galan Capt sparkles gamora and even champs like venompool do mad damage. Cosmic is right up there with science class. There's a bunch of OP cosmic champs. Even og Thor ascended with abs and stryfe synergy is wrecking fights with 15 hits..
The lady interviewing them looked good too.
yeah, whenever human yorch is a good option. he is still just a beast. dont use him too often. but any boss that has energy base attacks or incinerates without really high energy resist. he is still one of the best options
Finally, it's about time someone spoke out about this issue!
I think this has been such a longstanding issue at this point that we need a couple of skill defenders that are just completely Debuff immune when fighting science attackers, that's where their control comes from. This video also goes a long way to credit Kabam's recent decision to have those top tier defenders introduced, though it'll be interesting to see over time how Serpent gets handled by some of these top tier champs
It made little sense to me to do Red Guardian then Luke.
Happy for the buffs. But a bit odd. Also I’d love an OG Cap buff….but yeah. He could/should be a great dual threat.
When science class gets obliterated later on remember this video
My less favorite class D:
While true yes, there ia something we should remember, science besides photon doesnt really have defender, its fine to have good attackers when thats all you have really
Scorpion? Spider-Ham? Cassie Lang? Quicksilver?
Quicksilver,photon,overseer,thing, Spiderham,modok,void, scorpion
@@talon532they are very easy in top competive bg
@@talon532 I wouldnt count any of them as good defender anymore, maybe against lower roster they seem that way
Scorpion, Spiderham, Modok, Void, Spidergwen, etc, all are solid defenders
Youre also playing RG unoptimally
You can get the trauma debuff right away at the start of the fight by just blocking a heavy attack with no loss.
30 second BG fights go brr
i have played both red guardian and luke cage. so far i like luke cage more myself. but the red russian is also quite amazing now
Got my RG at rank 5 acended max sig...hes heavy is insane...gits like a truck...
Skill literally has an option on hand for every OP science champ. The only problem as I see it is more OP champs from the other classes need to be released as 7stars, that’s where the imbalance lies.
Red Guardian is NUTS. I think a big part of him being overlooked is that he’s not a 7 star and the 7 star science class has so many op champs.
greetings champion. Tell me what are the best counters for gorr on node 42?
Mojo
I R3 spiderham because he is great for evading hard specials and no one is really immune to power stings except shrug skill champs.
Wish you would’ve yapped about spider ham more good yapathon though
As someone with 7* photon hulk Titania Silk capiw etc I agree there is not enough t6 science cats in the game to rank them all.
Every class has this weird cadence they go on where there WAYYY to weak and that last for about two years. Then it seems that they just release banger after banger for that class. THE AGE OF MUTANTS IS COMING!!
Make Captain America great again
Pleeeeaaaaaaaase! 😊
Better have fun champs, rather than have everything nerfed. Like they did with Dr.Strange
I think this is just science’s time to shine, for awhile mutant was the best class
the problem is Science champs doesn't even need to be awakened to be OP, while other classes champs do
Cosmic as well it's super powerful with Hercules and CGR. Science is a jack of all trades with both utility and damage.
Also from the video it looks like you want these science champs to get nerfed.
its an old trend. for a while mystic was the best defensive class. for a while was cosmic the best class. then mutant. and now it has been science for a bit. and ofcourse this trend seems more and more crazy. but champs over all are getting better and better so that probably has a big part in it. kabam hasnt really ever been about staying balanced. there is and probably will always be a bit unbalanced. they tend to overcompensate
Science is so good but still prefer Cosmic
remembered when everybody is complaining about mutants' domination ? Man, good old days
Just r3ed my 7star overseer. He outdamages rol wolverine lmao!
This literally sounded like a video to Kabam to please nerf the Science class. I don’t get what we are supposed to hope for the game to go back to majority meme tier champs. This is coming from one of the very best players in this game. Don’t forget Nagase that these champs seem this way in your very capable hands. There is skill and knowledge involved in using these champs to perform like you are showing and that’s not the standard bro. Not everyone is as good as you are or knowledgeable about the game as you are with champion mechanics. And this is not a dig at you personally just remember that not everyone can make the game look as easy as you do.
We need OG Cap buff ! Right now for God sake ! He's the avengers leader and the living legend. Give Steve his credits Kabam ! 💪🤘
This game have a big trouble is the distance between money players and free players is too far.
no it's not because not everyone have all those options if a whale have all the champs it's not the game. it's about having options the better the champs are the more the options
Whats the point though how hard do we want mystic defenders to be i agree kabam hasn't evened it out yet they had to give us more annoying skill and Mutant defenders first lmao. But 65 seconds is considered like an okay fight in what is kinda of a nuke meta but i agree we need better mystics for sure. I like the Science class where it is its just so uneven when talking about the other classes especially Mystic. 😊
😂 dude compares a top 3 science option to Dani Midstar to support this take.
No the class is not too powerful.
This is true. But your presenting it like it's a problem. It's not. This has happened with so many classes before. Like specific champs, their time ends. Science was the weakest not long ago
For my ranking in science :
1 Photon
2 Hulk
3 Titania
4 silk
5 human torch
But I am still confused between top 3 😂
I love photon bcz I easily kill doom,absorbing man but human torch can take doom and many of the mystic but photo is best for me in absorbing man fight
you tried to sneak in red guardian on the thumbnail
He got a massive buff, he's good now
@@polidon1577 i haven’t seen it to judge but having him in the thumbnail is still probably crazy 😂
@@jahlilmcoc8856He was actually broken in the beta, they nerfed his buff slightly before releasing.
He dominates low-mid health pools. Great for bgs and aw.
Why you trying to get hulk nerfed my guy
Don’t hate on me but I feel like tech the weakest and has been the most undermined class since the start of the game , if you look at anyone’s roster , they only like maybe 3 techs , shuri, hulk buster , red skull , maybe starky , everyone else kinda fell off
Tech is my favorite class, very underrated
@@justinbarnes87jb it’s underrated bc every other class except maybe mutant is 10x better
@@RyomenSukuna41 True
how did you miss warlock when the topic is about tech calss😢
The title doesn't make any sense. The same situation happened with the Mutant class and after that the Cosmic class being OP. If they want to nerf the Science class Kabam can easily do that. Just like they nerf Hercules for Necropolis.
The Science class is not even great for Incursion. They are at least 4 champions that are far better in Incursion than any champions in the Science class.
1. Angela
2. Hela
3. Aegon
4. Hercules
i agree
Mystic was really broken back in the day too when scarlet witch and dr strange destroyed the whole game
@@NoobGamer-di1dw now that is what I call broken.
Silk with enhanced stun duration and the hack that gives you furies when debuffs end is insane in incursions
@@weic4680 I know Tide Of Combat I said it on another comment.
"Silk is broken" lol. Silk is so broken she had to be nerf. Ooh never mind.
I do want to say might be top 10 in Incursion but has many flaws. Silk has no immunities and doesn't have Regen. She is not damage mastery friendly and can't handle like 100 straight fights by herself.
Nah science is mid. Mutant, tech, mystic all still better. Shit science might be the worst class tbh. 🤷♂️
What about spidy 2099!!! The best counter for many mystic champs!!! And certainly for sassy😂😂 and all powergain champs!!!
My less favorite class D: