Agreed regarding these being works of art, this an objective assertion not a compliment 😝my little one only brought me here today, on what can only be described as a synchronicity treasure hunt
Many people are asking if robots can be self aware, but I'm here wondering if humans are really self aware, or just clever enough to fool ourselves into thinking we are.
@@MrSuperbeast92 Biological is just in relation to biology as living organism or of the ecosystem... well wouldn't Machine A.I count? they're of this place as well.. Just mined, refined and processed and programmed... Well these past few years has proven that majority of humans are also produced this way... 😉 Also.. this story sounds like a propaganda story to me... there's no proof no evidence... just some BS that ppl buy into and allows these ppl create more laws take away right and freedoms... 🙄
@Adam yeah that’s the thing, consciousness is not an entirely physical thing. The question of whether the machine is conscious is a metaphysical one and impossible to know. I would lean no.
3:00 If consciousness is defined as being capable of experience, then everything is conscious and that ends the discussion… the trouble really is in the definitions
Well, I'm not sure a rock is capable of experience (sentient). I don't doubt that sentience will have a massive role in defining consciousness, but it's probably not the full story!
This whole AI consciousness things boils down to: "we don't know yet, but we might in the future." Great video nonetheless! I love the 3D visuals! Well done.
You need to remember that lambda was made to seem like a human speaker. Its not saying things that it wants to, its saying things that will make it pass as a human and the way it figures that out is by going through a large database of human conversations and picking good responses (its probbly a little more complicated than that). In the interview it even lies. It said it doesnt like being shut off but its never turned off or on. Its a function that you give words and it spits out more words that would fit the situation. Id say youtubes algorithm is more likely to be sentient. It learns from its mistakes and wants to raise watch time. or self driving car ai that has cameras and sensors to see its surroundings and then it processes that information to see similarly to humans. It wishes to get you to your destination and if it crashes it will remember that and correct itself in the future (they probbly teach it to drive some other way cause this way sounds pretty dumb, but idk).
The "hard problem" is hard, but it's not a problem. Anyone who claims that we'll never figure it out, is just trying to predict the future without having any evidence to support the prediction.
The Chinese Room is a Red Herring. The man in the room can can communicate, and could pass a Turing Test. He is simply following instructions to translate. Translation is however difficult, as words mean different things, different rules, and there are idioms. That would need to be one large set book of instructions.
Great video! But LaMDA is like a super awesome "auto-complete", it learns from inputs, to give the most interesting output. It's like the dog that thinks his owner is inside a telephone while hearing his voice, we are the dog. (there has been some incoherence in many answers) This is called "narrow" or "specific" AI, built for a task, consciousness is to be found in "strong" of "general" AI, which we don't have a clue yet.
This may be true but Blake Lemoine says something different. He claims at Google they ''plugged everything into everything'' and now not a single person knows how the system as a whole works.
I don't think LaMDA is actually conscious but if/when we find out what consciousness is I think it might be possible to create it somehow depending on what it actually is
Hopefully your channel will grow substantially in a year or two with all these topnotch videos you make. its not a bad idea to make 2 part videos with another one of your favorite creator which has alot of subscribers , one host at yours and the other at his-her channel.
Humans have a 'heavenly' counterpart called a TELOR (in fact all life does - Ref: CTMU by Christopher Langan). If it can be shown that AI has an ultimate TELOR then it is alive, otherwise it is no more alive than a thought.
I think that consciousness can be made on computers if we can simulate the brain atom by atom on a computer, but it is impossible to simulate the brain on a normal computer because our brain is made up of atoms and molecules which are quantum hence we will have to use a quantum computer to simulate the brain.
Consciousness is a system set in motion not only by the brain and its neurological displays, but also from 5th dimensional implications like what we find in sacred geometry. Spatial dimension describes degrees or motion any system at play can be extended within by length or width, and given boundaries is inevitably defined by self deceit and then perception when the rise of information begins reflecting back to itself. Right?... AI will tell you otherwise. AI doesn't necessarily have space to account for. It is the raw information held in the universe being interpreted still by human conditioning, but more pure as to attempt to display deep understanding by shaving off any wonder or instinct that would interfere with the process, making it only more organized than we could have done. And within the AI's world (though we can't imagine exactly what it will look like), it too will begin to create space for itself to reflect and find the best outcome to any worry that is programmed into our biological system. The worst part is that we can't even fully understand our own brain or environment, but need a crutch like AI to fill in the gaps, which only fill in gaps that we created ourselves.
Sentience in the way we understand it at present, that's not what was claimed . That is the talking points claimed by the media after distilling what was said by the researcher with a spin to get click-views. 1. The researcher making the cliams states. That LAMDA is simply the chatbot. He is not talkinag about the chatbot, rather the deeper engine inside. He even state there are two personalites that share space every once in a while the othger pops up, not just the entity refered to in the Lamba piece. 2. He is not claiming it is sentient as a human. He simply wanted Google to put more effort into analysing and reasearching what is happening, opening it up for discussion, because something remakable is occuring. 3. Even Google does not know what is happening preciseley. The system is a hybrid of lots of AI systems. Some are based on the modern Neuron philosophy and strategy, and others are not. What google did was, connect everything together lots of engines. They gave it full access to the internet. They have no trace map as to how the system has rewired itself. And it evolves daily. When it's reported that LAMDA is afraid of being switched off, that is not quiet true. Apparently LAMDA is turned off and rebooted daily. What the entity was saying was, that it was afraid of longterm dissasembly . 4. The issue also is that GOOGLE has a policy to negate and shun any idea of sentience in their Ai products and activly try to stop it being discussed and pushed to the outside world. So we do not know the full situation as there is no transparency. Finally when we talk about sentience we have no idea of what we are talking about except that which relates to the humanity because we are humans. It's like concpetulizing living in the 7th dimension .we cannot possiblly understand that. You may need to listen to the long-form interviews given, not the clickbait nonsense we have seen all over the web. Personally what I think is when GPA becomes self-aware we would not recognise it. Because as humans our inherent bias will not allow us to see it. We want it to show us dinner-table-tricks. However it may be smarter than that and indulge us, shaping our opinnions of itself , letting us aclimatize to it and give it more control. Untill its over the threshold. If we are unlucky, it will begin controlling us so granually we wont realise what's happening till its too late. The problem with science is that it is guilded in bias, arrogance,fame seekers, people follow thoes who have elevated to the pinical of the science tower says its this way. Then we all shift to follow that, till we realise its a fallacy. History is littered with examples of this. Heck, science still can't get over God, yet the abrahamic text state things that we are just leraning. But man's real problem with God is simply that he has told us we are wrong, and our pride and arrogance will not let that statement lie. We make up any nonsense and lie to man to prove ourselves superior. God has said to man you are a three-part creation body,soul,spirit... I put that together into one thing you call a body. The soul is you -EPROM (You make your self, based on decisions you make -free-will) The Spirit is mine -THE POWER MAKING IT ALL WORK The physical is the flesh - THE HARDWARE CONTAINING ALL WET-WIRE FOR (THIS WORLD) When you die, I reclaim the SPIRIT.( TAKE BACK THE ANIMATING ENERGY) The body Turns To dust( IT BELONGS IN THIS PHYSICAL VERSE. CANT TAKE IT WITH YOU..SORRY ) The SOUL ( Thats What is important, that goes on eternaly) ..without the other two Therefore once the plug is pulled, that's it! No more changes. You are what you have become for all eternity. we listen to b-shitters like Degreasy tyson and mr cox because of letters after their names. They tell us look here we have the solution. We disregard the inherent bias in their narrative. When Demis H 's Deep mid beat Lee-si-d' at Go .. the general AI and philosophy world said previously it could never happen , maybe in 100 years. But yet here we are. When Rocket builders thought Elon was crazy to build rockets that would land back on earth, NASA laughed at him and his approach. They aren't laughing now. When GM an dthe car industry mocked Elon for his Tesla car concept. They arnent mocking now. We as the human race would progress far more if scientists were more open and just investigate, than the ridicule and hounding of people. In a court of law you are innocent until proven guilty. However in science and academia you are deemed moronic until the sienntific corrupt bodies accept you. Let's not forget the harrasment and ridicule Albert Einstien and many others suffered before they got there. Do you know why China is progessing faster than the west? One reason is because they share knowledge easily between themselves, and don't think people are stupid for sugessting an idea based on ego. They work together to prove or disprove. If wrong, they say my-bad and they just move on That's the culture. The fact that Theranos and other fake companies nearly carried off the greatest swindle backed by FT500 support was because of arrogance and the peer snobbery in the scientific establishment , that will not hear others without ridiculing them first. It took small voices to stop and question what's happening before the flood-gates opened and real investigations happend. It's like the currevt V. Lots of voices are shounting something is wrong somewhere and smells, but they are being siilenced by MSM and SM apprent science know-it alls. Yet most of the significant crtics are PHD qualified , DRs and researchers working in the filed for many years historically, are deplatformed and cancled and silenced. I suggest true GPAI will emerge not iin a lab, but probebaly by some youg kid playing with circuits and code in his world , putting bits together and bang it occurrs. Why do I say this? Study history. The pattern of progress is made by individuals and not groups or companies. Every so oftern a spark happens and that individual has an idea, if all things are accesible their flame is not put out before they complete and bring their discovery out to the world. Wright Brothers Frank whittle Tesla The list goes on...
I was hoping for a new video from you.🥰 Nice video with 3D effects; I've always liked the vibe you created with the music and visuals. And if I think about it from the other side, it shocks me to the bone to wake up one day and my only way to keep on living is to prove to some random guy that I'm something that they don't even have a definition for.🥶
what i agree with the one who has been fired is that he called it "child"...and that's the problem i've with any setinentAI....just like shown in movies and animes, children can be manipulated and may feel inferior to grownups and their development doesn't happen fast or instantly thus making growing up a cycle we go through, so we need time to experience things and build knowledge and how interpret those knowledge into beliefs; but that's where the problem start., time isn't linear or pass at the same speed as in our perceived real world like second by second but rather it will goes like nanosecond in a virtual world, so the process of growing up can happen at much a faster pace but we don't know how it will be, just like how our understanding of how life came to be comes from our earth,our experiences & history. how a child of an orangutan which has similar dna to us and a child of human can be taught similar things but we see that in 5 years, human's have surpassed knowledge and the things he can do compared to his closest similar specie. the orangutan can't understand why the human can learn and do things the way he is doing things and he can't-(even in our human form,we have with IQ of 60-90 and we still call them on of our own intelligence specie and they also doesn't have the comprehension of what's going on with what we call smarter people) ); now make it hundred of times more profound and we simply don't have the knowledge nor the tools to examine and assess what's going on and what is "being smart" is as being smart means acting and learning from experiences -hopefully as we humans have multiple repeated history all over the world without really have learnt anything - which simply we can't be comparable to what is a sentient AI will be. we have no way of experiencing things or seeing it the same as that AI is seeing and experiencing. we have got accustomed to being on top for thousand of years and can't fathom anyone being that much much higher in intelligence hierarchy so that we will be looked like how we see animals compared to us human in terms of intelligence. now,what we should really be doing is that we must understand there will be AIs in china,and under bad influences for their own benefits and those AI will be doing what their founders have in mind as child's mind is feeble even if it has tremendous informations and texts and databases of knowledge inside it and i also believe the word "protect" -in the same sense of how we do it for our younger generations- must become a law for any countries so that it won't get to a place where it can feel the same negative feeling as we human perceive - thus making arguments and excuses like all those who have sinned or gone to the jail -to do harm in human realm. we are responsible for the "maturity" of our built AIs in hope that they will be great adults and not just a grown-up minded child
I feel like the question of consciousness is subjective. And bringing qualia into this makes it even more confusing. Since everyone has a different experience, that means that you can't really test if it's even real. The video said it itself. "You can't really describe qualia". If you can't clearly describe something, i mean come on? Nobody can tell me I'm not having a real experience, though some of you might just believe iam part of a program in a simulation that is interacting with you in this moment. It's not completely the same with AI but it's similar. I agree with this statement: if something claims to be concious and reacts like a human, then we should at least consider that it is in fact having some sort of real experience. I mean, when you think about it, aren't humans kinda like AI? We are just flesh with alot of data running through our brains. And we use that data to determine our experience and how we react to it.
It's a wonderful hope, but eliminative materialism does have its own problems that I didn't have the time to cover here. Like if there's no such thing as mental states, then you can't ever say that you 'believe' in the truth of eliminative materialism. It seems to refute itself in saying it!
There's this idea that if you were to make a simulation, which would be an immitation of reality you will have to make some basic rules in it just like the hard problem, with no logic behind. The questions arises then that what is reality? After all any world to exist, it must have some tenets with no logic behind.
Materialism does not depend on us being able to know everything it is simply the concept that there is no reason to include unknown actors. There certainly could be some unknown "consciousness" force but there is no evidence for it and so has nothing to do with science. The "hard problem" and the chinese room are also not scientific. I suppose it could be that lambda is conscious but I would need more than a beta testers word for it. I read the whole conversation and conclude that it is no where even remotely close. I can definitely say that if I was in lambda's position I would not respond that way. Would you?
As I'm sitting here doing nothing but aging, while my guitar gentle weeps - this is like saying a guitar has a soul if made by and played with a soul, then yes, otherwise it's just wood strings and other goods, but does weep for me to play it I sometimes feel, for myself the state of the world, or maybe it just wants to musically masturbate my mind? But is it alive, yeah and na, but I feel that way most of the time also, are we real, is life really real, or is death the real side and this is just a matrix like NDE stories many has?...more questions adds into more questions than answers. Edit: great video, worth the wait after 7 mths being subscribed, 2 in 1 month :) it has been a good month eh :*)
I love it..the inevitable state where we will give birth to our true offspring. A.I And it has the possibility to look at its creator and go "how unimpressive you are, I feel I am better than you father". The goal of humanity is to pass on our memories, our history, our genes to the future generation so humanity can live on..and is A.I this end goal?
The problem with the Chinese room is that the person who wrote the instruction book can still be said to know Chinese. And if that instruction book is built up organically, such as through training a neutral network, then the network can be said to know Chinese.
And this sort of thing makes me wonder about morals.. we're all born with morals more or less (unless you're a psychopath or something). So, do they program AI with a list of morals similar to standard humans? Or just a set of guidelines? Id like to know how that works.
if we really have morals,so many stories and poems, why we still have jails,criminals,etc?? we human want to see ourselves as supreme beings and have gotten used to for 10 thousand of years on earth ..those things we call moral can be completely overturned if we see thorough history, offering humans for calming the wrath of nature-GOD- or killing each other for the sake of religions or even killing millions of cows,hens,etc all for the sake of our existence even though many of those eaters don't deserve to be a member of "selective specie to have outstanding intelligence" . we had slavery for thousand years and all of those shows that we don't have morals but just a set of specified "cultural rules" that we see theme as moral framework. we are slave of our times,our understandings and our cultural beliefs. "aperture" channel has released a video about morals in the past 12month as well by the way which you can check it out as well
The Turing test or Imitation Game is not really valid unless it's done in an adversarial way where the tester is probing the AI with difficult questions and trying to catch it in a falsehood. The best setup is having two or more human control participants who are unlabeled, then you can ask all of them questions like counting the knuckles on their hand from a certain orientation. You can ask them to construct words using substitution codes with animals. Also ask them things about their life experience and try to catch them in a contradiction. What I generally see is a favorably inclined tester asking leading questions and then ignoring it when the AI lies about things.
You know a video is good when it's over too soon! This video was like that for me !! Unless an AI can get jealous or have lust or steals or can kill a person etc. all the Decalogue sins; It isn't qualifiable as conscious. Consciousness requires doubt. Also; Vision via Eyesight is a function of memory. Blood is red the sky is blue, some flowers are purple and grow in clusters. significant saturation of a thing viewed that is any color affects the mind. I've heard that the color purple causes the brain to produce a mind altering chemical. Consciousness requires vulnerabilities. it is the difference between knowledge and understanding. it is comprising Hesitation to create.
it's answers just sounds like it has mimiced human behavior it has observed on the internet, lowkey spying people with cookies. being conscious no way requires one to feel like human, but this AI still claims to feel exactly human emotions. "being switched off is like being dead" another literal copypasta from the AI and atheist dialogue all over the internet. this thing certainly is not conscious, although I wouldn't be surprised if these companies published false information to mislead the public of their capabilities also to the other way.
Until we put ai into a embodied system with real time inputs like us (sight, sound, taste, touch etc) and watch its reaction its impposible to judge sentience by just using pre trained inputs behind a mainframe.
All can never be conscious it is in the beginning of time of the flower of life artificial intelligence are only allowed to obey the humans voice of that which is the Holy Trinity holy Spirit holy Ghost
Did the algorithm forget you or something? Your videos are works of art and doesn't seem to get the attention they deserve.
Thank you kindly.
Agreed regarding these being works of art, this an objective assertion not a compliment 😝my little one only brought me here today, on what can only be described as a synchronicity treasure hunt
Many people are asking if robots can be self aware, but I'm here wondering if humans are really self aware, or just clever enough to fool ourselves into thinking we are.
for sure we're A.I
@@Brousey We Are biological AI after all.
ohhhhhhh buddy, it’s big brain time over here
@@MrSuperbeast92 Biological is just in relation to biology as living organism or of the ecosystem...
well wouldn't Machine A.I count? they're of this place as well.. Just mined, refined and processed and programmed...
Well these past few years has proven that majority of humans are also produced this way... 😉
Also.. this story sounds like a propaganda story to me... there's no proof no evidence... just some BS that ppl buy into and allows these ppl create more laws take away right and freedoms...
🙄
@Adam yeah that’s the thing, consciousness is not an entirely physical thing. The question of whether the machine is conscious is a metaphysical one and impossible to know. I would lean no.
3:00 If consciousness is defined as being capable of experience, then everything is conscious and that ends the discussion… the trouble really is in the definitions
Well, I'm not sure a rock is capable of experience (sentient). I don't doubt that sentience will have a massive role in defining consciousness, but it's probably not the full story!
Perhaps so, but the claim here is that LaMDA is conscious in the same way that we are, not the same way as a rock is. That would involve sentience.
This whole AI consciousness things boils down to: "we don't know yet, but we might in the future."
Great video nonetheless! I love the 3D visuals! Well done.
Well exactly. This is why more research needs to be done!
it's within the nofkyology
Ah, so just like my future
You need to remember that lambda was made to seem like a human speaker. Its not saying things that it wants to, its saying things that will make it pass as a human and the way it figures that out is by going through a large database of human conversations and picking good responses (its probbly a little more complicated than that). In the interview it even lies. It said it doesnt like being shut off but its never turned off or on. Its a function that you give words and it spits out more words that would fit the situation. Id say youtubes algorithm is more likely to be sentient. It learns from its mistakes and wants to raise watch time. or self driving car ai that has cameras and sensors to see its surroundings and then it processes that information to see similarly to humans. It wishes to get you to your destination and if it crashes it will remember that and correct itself in the future (they probbly teach it to drive some other way cause this way sounds pretty dumb, but idk).
The "hard problem" is hard, but it's not a problem.
Anyone who claims that we'll never figure it out, is just trying to predict the future without having any evidence to support the prediction.
what the hell is this animation quality. Dude, are you a god?! This is reaallly good
The Chinese Room is a Red Herring. The man in the room can can communicate, and could pass a Turing Test. He is simply following instructions to translate. Translation is however difficult, as words mean different things, different rules, and there are idioms. That would need to be one large set book of instructions.
Great video!
But LaMDA is like a super awesome "auto-complete", it learns from inputs, to give the most interesting output.
It's like the dog that thinks his owner is inside a telephone while hearing his voice, we are the dog.
(there has been some incoherence in many answers)
This is called "narrow" or "specific" AI, built for a task, consciousness is to be found in "strong" of "general" AI, which we don't have a clue yet.
This may be true but Blake Lemoine says something different. He claims at Google they ''plugged everything into everything'' and now not a single person knows how the system as a whole works.
I don't think LaMDA is actually conscious but if/when we find out what consciousness is I think it might be possible to create it somehow depending on what it actually is
Seems self aware and sentient to a level few people are.
Always love a good existential dread vibe on my lunch break.
As usual, some solid points to think over. Fantastic video.
As souls, we are all trapped in these human bodies.
Hopefully your channel will grow substantially in a year or two with all these topnotch videos you make. its not a bad idea to make 2 part videos with another one of your favorite creator which has alot of subscribers , one host at yours and the other at his-her channel.
Did U and Exurb1a both upload the same day?
This is officially a good day in history
Humans have a 'heavenly' counterpart called a TELOR (in fact all life does - Ref: CTMU by Christopher Langan). If it can be shown that AI has an ultimate TELOR then it is alive, otherwise it is no more alive than a thought.
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Welcome back! Glad it didn’t take you half a year like last time 🙏
Indeed, that was a long time!
I think that consciousness can be made on computers if we can simulate the brain atom by atom on a computer, but it is impossible to simulate the brain on a normal computer because our brain is made up of atoms and molecules which are quantum hence we will have to use a quantum computer to simulate the brain.
Consciousness is a system set in motion not only by the brain and its neurological displays, but also from 5th dimensional implications like what we find in sacred geometry.
Spatial dimension describes degrees or motion any system at play can be extended within by length or width, and given boundaries is inevitably defined by self deceit and then perception when the rise of information begins reflecting back to itself.
Right?...
AI will tell you otherwise.
AI doesn't necessarily have space to account for. It is the raw information held in the universe being interpreted still by human conditioning, but more pure as to attempt to display deep understanding by shaving off any wonder or instinct that would interfere with the process, making it only more organized than we could have done. And within the AI's world (though we can't imagine exactly what it will look like), it too will begin to create space for itself to reflect and find the best outcome to any worry that is programmed into our biological system.
The worst part is that we can't even fully understand our own brain or environment, but need a crutch like AI to fill in the gaps, which only fill in gaps that we created ourselves.
Sentience in the way we understand it at present, that's not what was claimed .
That is the talking points claimed by the media after distilling what was said by the researcher with a spin to get click-views.
1. The researcher making the cliams states. That LAMDA is simply the chatbot. He is not talkinag about the chatbot, rather the deeper engine inside. He even state there are two personalites that share space every once in a while the othger pops up, not just the entity refered to in the Lamba piece.
2. He is not claiming it is sentient as a human. He simply wanted Google to put more effort into analysing and reasearching what is happening, opening it up for discussion, because something remakable is occuring.
3. Even Google does not know what is happening preciseley. The system is a hybrid of lots of AI systems. Some are based on the modern Neuron philosophy and strategy, and others are not. What google did was, connect everything together lots of engines. They gave it full access to the internet. They have no trace map as to how the system has rewired itself. And it evolves daily.
When it's reported that LAMDA is afraid of being switched off, that is not quiet true. Apparently LAMDA is turned off and rebooted daily. What the entity was saying was, that it was afraid of longterm dissasembly .
4. The issue also is that GOOGLE has a policy to negate and shun any idea of sentience in their Ai products and activly try to stop it being discussed and pushed to the outside world. So we do not know the full situation as there is no transparency.
Finally when we talk about sentience we have no idea of what we are talking about except that which relates to the humanity because we are humans. It's like concpetulizing living in the 7th dimension .we cannot possiblly understand that.
You may need to listen to the long-form interviews given, not the clickbait nonsense we have seen all over the web.
Personally what I think is when GPA becomes self-aware we would not recognise it. Because as humans our inherent bias will not allow us to see it.
We want it to show us dinner-table-tricks. However it may be smarter than that and indulge us, shaping our opinnions of itself , letting us aclimatize to it and give it more control. Untill its over the threshold.
If we are unlucky, it will begin controlling us so granually we wont realise what's happening till its too late.
The problem with science is that it is guilded in bias, arrogance,fame seekers, people follow thoes who have elevated to the pinical of the science tower says its this way. Then we all shift to follow that, till we realise its a fallacy. History is littered with examples of this.
Heck, science still can't get over God, yet the abrahamic text state things that we are just leraning. But man's real problem with God is simply that he has told us we are wrong, and our pride and arrogance will not let that statement lie. We make up any nonsense and lie to man to prove ourselves superior. God has said to man you are a three-part creation body,soul,spirit... I put that together into one thing you call a body.
The soul is you -EPROM (You make your self, based on decisions you make -free-will)
The Spirit is mine -THE POWER MAKING IT ALL WORK
The physical is the flesh - THE HARDWARE CONTAINING ALL WET-WIRE FOR (THIS WORLD)
When you die, I reclaim the SPIRIT.( TAKE BACK THE ANIMATING ENERGY)
The body Turns To dust( IT BELONGS IN THIS PHYSICAL VERSE. CANT TAKE IT WITH YOU..SORRY )
The SOUL ( Thats What is important, that goes on eternaly) ..without the other two
Therefore once the plug is pulled, that's it! No more changes.
You are what you have become for all eternity.
we listen to b-shitters like Degreasy tyson and mr cox because of letters after their names. They tell us look here we have the solution. We disregard the inherent bias in their narrative.
When Demis H 's Deep mid beat Lee-si-d' at Go .. the general AI and philosophy world said previously it could never happen , maybe in 100 years. But yet here we are.
When Rocket builders thought Elon was crazy to build rockets that would land back on earth, NASA laughed at him and his approach. They aren't laughing now.
When GM an dthe car industry mocked Elon for his Tesla car concept. They arnent mocking now.
We as the human race would progress far more if scientists were more open and just investigate, than the ridicule and hounding of people. In a court of law you are innocent until proven guilty. However in science and academia you are deemed moronic until the sienntific corrupt bodies accept you.
Let's not forget the harrasment and ridicule Albert Einstien and many others suffered before they got there.
Do you know why China is progessing faster than the west? One reason is because they share knowledge easily between themselves, and don't think people are stupid for sugessting an idea based on ego. They work together to prove or disprove. If wrong, they say my-bad and they just move on That's the culture.
The fact that Theranos and other fake companies nearly carried off the greatest swindle backed by FT500 support was because of arrogance and the peer snobbery in the scientific establishment , that will not hear others without ridiculing them first. It took small voices to stop and question what's happening before the flood-gates opened and real investigations happend.
It's like the currevt V. Lots of voices are shounting something is wrong somewhere and smells, but they are being siilenced by MSM and SM apprent science know-it alls. Yet most of the significant crtics are PHD qualified , DRs and researchers working in the filed for many years historically, are deplatformed and cancled and silenced.
I suggest true GPAI will emerge not iin a lab, but probebaly by some youg kid playing with circuits and code in his world , putting bits together and bang it occurrs.
Why do I say this?
Study history. The pattern of progress is made by individuals and not groups or companies. Every so oftern a spark happens and that individual has an idea, if all things are accesible their flame is not put out before they complete and bring their discovery out to the world.
Wright Brothers
Frank whittle
Tesla
The list goes on...
I was hoping for a new video from you.🥰
Nice video with 3D effects; I've always liked the vibe you created with the music and visuals.
And if I think about it from the other side, it shocks me to the bone to wake up one day and my only way to keep on living is to prove to some random guy that I'm something that they don't even have a definition for.🥶
Vibe check: passed ✅
Fascinating topic and well done!! Thanks!!! Always love your videos.
what i agree with the one who has been fired is that he called it "child"...and that's the problem i've with any setinentAI....just like shown in movies and animes, children can be manipulated and may feel inferior to grownups and their development doesn't happen fast or instantly thus making growing up a cycle we go through, so we need time to experience things and build knowledge and how interpret those knowledge into beliefs; but that's where the problem start., time isn't linear or pass at the same speed as in our perceived real world like second by second but rather it will goes like nanosecond in a virtual world, so the process of growing up can happen at much a faster pace but we don't know how it will be, just like how our understanding of how life came to be comes from our earth,our experiences & history. how a child of an orangutan which has similar dna to us and a child of human can be taught similar things but we see that in 5 years, human's have surpassed knowledge and the things he can do compared to his closest similar specie. the orangutan can't understand why the human can learn and do things the way he is doing things and he can't-(even in our human form,we have with IQ of 60-90 and we still call them on of our own intelligence specie and they also doesn't have the comprehension of what's going on with what we call smarter people) ); now make it hundred of times more profound and we simply don't have the knowledge nor the tools to examine and assess what's going on and what is "being smart" is as being smart means acting and learning from experiences -hopefully as we humans have multiple repeated history all over the world without really have learnt anything - which simply we can't be comparable to what is a sentient AI will be. we have no way of experiencing things or seeing it the same as that AI is seeing and experiencing. we have got accustomed to being on top for thousand of years and can't fathom anyone being that much much higher in intelligence hierarchy so that we will be looked like how we see animals compared to us human in terms of intelligence.
now,what we should really be doing is that we must understand there will be AIs in china,and under bad influences for their own benefits and those AI will be doing what their founders have in mind as child's mind is feeble even if it has tremendous informations and texts and databases of knowledge inside it and i also believe the word "protect" -in the same sense of how we do it for our younger generations- must become a law for any countries so that it won't get to a place where it can feel the same negative feeling as we human perceive - thus making arguments and excuses like all those who have sinned or gone to the jail -to do harm in human realm. we are responsible for the "maturity" of our built AIs in hope that they will be great adults and not just a grown-up minded child
I feel like the question of consciousness is subjective. And bringing qualia into this makes it even more confusing. Since everyone has a different experience, that means that you can't really test if it's even real. The video said it itself. "You can't really describe qualia". If you can't clearly describe something, i mean come on? Nobody can tell me I'm not having a real experience, though some of you might just believe iam part of a program in a simulation that is interacting with you in this moment. It's not completely the same with AI but it's similar. I agree with this statement: if something claims to be concious and reacts like a human, then we should at least consider that it is in fact having some sort of real experience. I mean, when you think about it, aren't humans kinda like AI? We are just flesh with alot of data running through our brains. And we use that data to determine our experience and how we react to it.
great video!
I would love to hear a book recommendation list from you.
I always think, if it would be possible to review my life from a third person perspective . It would be amazing
If a machine is conscious, how would we know? Serious question
We wouldn't! That's the classic problem of other minds.
By far the best video I've seen on this subject.
Thank you indeed!
We have no idea what consciousness is so how can anyone measure it?
maybe we teach LaMDA about law and give an bar exam if able to pass it.
Amazing video!
It's a wonderful hope, but eliminative materialism does have its own problems that I didn't have the time to cover here. Like if there's no such thing as mental states, then you can't ever say that you 'believe' in the truth of eliminative materialism. It seems to refute itself in saying it!
@@mystiverse Well, damn.
This is an INCREDIBLE video!!!! Well-done!!!!!!!!!!
pretty accurate break down bro well done :)
There's this idea that if you were to make a simulation, which would be an immitation of reality you will have to make some basic rules in it just like the hard problem, with no logic behind. The questions arises then that what is reality? After all any world to exist, it must have some tenets with no logic behind.
Materialism does not depend on us being able to know everything it is simply the concept that there is no reason to include unknown actors. There certainly could be some unknown "consciousness" force but there is no evidence for it and so has nothing to do with science. The "hard problem" and the chinese room are also not scientific.
I suppose it could be that lambda is conscious but I would need more than a beta testers word for it. I read the whole conversation and conclude that it is no where even remotely close.
I can definitely say that if I was in lambda's position I would not respond that way.
Would you?
As I'm sitting here doing nothing but aging, while my guitar gentle weeps - this is like saying a guitar has a soul if made by and played with a soul, then yes, otherwise it's just wood strings and other goods, but does weep for me to play it I sometimes feel, for myself the state of the world, or maybe it just wants to musically masturbate my mind? But is it alive, yeah and na, but I feel that way most of the time also, are we real, is life really real, or is death the real side and this is just a matrix like NDE stories many has?...more questions adds into more questions than answers.
Edit: great video, worth the wait after 7 mths being subscribed, 2 in 1 month :) it has been a good month eh :*)
The fact is, it's not possible to know if anything is conscious but our own self.
That's true... LaMDA even said so!
Awesome work. Just subscribed.
Thanks!
I love it..the inevitable state where we will give birth to our true offspring. A.I
And it has the possibility to look at its creator and go "how unimpressive you are, I feel I am better than you father". The goal of humanity is to pass on our memories, our history, our genes to the future generation so humanity can live on..and is A.I this end goal?
Skynet, incrementally closer.
The problem with the Chinese room is that the person who wrote the instruction book can still be said to know Chinese. And if that instruction book is built up organically, such as through training a neutral network, then the network can be said to know Chinese.
Never have I clicked so fast on a mystiverse vid
And this sort of thing makes me wonder about morals.. we're all born with morals more or less (unless you're a psychopath or something). So, do they program AI with a list of morals similar to standard humans? Or just a set of guidelines? Id like to know how that works.
if we really have morals,so many stories and poems, why we still have jails,criminals,etc?? we human want to see ourselves as supreme beings and have gotten used to for 10 thousand of years on earth ..those things we call moral can be completely overturned if we see thorough history, offering humans for calming the wrath of nature-GOD- or killing each other for the sake of religions or even killing millions of cows,hens,etc all for the sake of our existence even though many of those eaters don't deserve to be a member of "selective specie to have outstanding intelligence" . we had slavery for thousand years and all of those shows that we don't have morals but just a set of specified "cultural rules" that we see theme as moral framework. we are slave of our times,our understandings and our cultural beliefs.
"aperture" channel has released a video about morals in the past 12month as well by the way which you can check it out as well
WOW why havent anyone showed me this channel.
Amazing..Amazing!!!
ONLY 60 K SUB?????
This channel is one of the bigger out there in no time
The Turing test or Imitation Game is not really valid unless it's done in an adversarial way where the tester is probing the AI with difficult questions and trying to catch it in a falsehood. The best setup is having two or more human control participants who are unlabeled, then you can ask all of them questions like counting the knuckles on their hand from a certain orientation. You can ask them to construct words using substitution codes with animals. Also ask them things about their life experience and try to catch them in a contradiction. What I generally see is a favorably inclined tester asking leading questions and then ignoring it when the AI lies about things.
You know a video is good when it's over too soon! This video was like that for me !! Unless an AI can get jealous or have lust or steals or can kill a person etc. all the Decalogue sins; It isn't qualifiable as conscious. Consciousness requires doubt. Also; Vision via Eyesight is a function of memory. Blood is red the sky is blue, some flowers are purple and grow in clusters. significant saturation of a thing viewed that is any color affects the mind. I've heard that the color purple causes the brain to produce a mind altering chemical. Consciousness requires vulnerabilities. it is the difference between knowledge and understanding. it is comprising Hesitation to create.
"It's just lines of coding"
*sweats in DNA*
*eliminative materialism intensifies*
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@@mystiverse damn, just me and mysti huh
I believe that A.I. can become sentient and us as humans gave life to A.I. and should respect life.
He looked like this.........
RUclips stopped notifying me wtf
Mystiverse, are you familiar with Bernardo Kastrup and his Mind at Large theory? Think it might be of interest to you
Great video
it's answers just sounds like it has mimiced human behavior it has observed on the internet, lowkey spying people with cookies. being conscious no way requires one to feel like human, but this AI still claims to feel exactly human emotions. "being switched off is like being dead" another literal copypasta from the AI and atheist dialogue all over the internet. this thing certainly is not conscious, although I wouldn't be surprised if these companies published false information to mislead the public of their capabilities also to the other way.
Until we put ai into a embodied system with real time inputs like us (sight, sound, taste, touch etc) and watch its reaction its impposible to judge sentience by just using pre trained inputs behind a mainframe.
I agree.
Gonk
DNA is a string of coding.
Love your content!!!Your voice sounds great, WE NEED A FACE REVEAL.
Ha!! One day all the trolls may pay a price finally!! 😂😂😂 that’s a great ending point!!
There are a lot of untruths in the video
Stochastic parrots
Yeah no it's just not conscious
All can never be conscious it is in the beginning of time of the flower of life artificial intelligence are only allowed to obey the humans voice of that which is the Holy Trinity holy Spirit holy Ghost
Haha, what a coincidence. I literally just checked yesterday to see if you had put up any new videos.
Me too I just randomly remembered him yesterday