Another excellent reaction! One thing Marvel has (almost) always done well is that the heroes are often flawed and conflicted, and the "villains" will sometimes have backstories and motives that are understandable, even if their means of achieving them can be questionable (to say the least). In Marvel comic books (and now, sometimes, in the MCU itself), "good" guys will sometimes turn bad and "bad" guys will sometimes turn good. Moon Knight is particularly successful in this regard because (as you've found out) it really does make you think about right vs. wrong and what it even means to be "good" or "bad".
I would also like to add that Marvel also has the most number of "anti-heroes" on their roster. I mean, the Punisher & Deadpool alone are the ultimate anti-hero superheroes. So yeah, Marvel does play around with the "grey area" quite a bit. It's not even surprising to see bad guys switch allegiance and start helping the good guys. It's very rare that Marvel will give you a purely good or purely evil character.
Love watching your reactions Emme! Moonknight is a fantastic series! I think it may be the best in the MCU! Oscar Isaacks, Ethan Hawke and May Calamawy acting in this series is outstanding! Can’t wait for your journey to continue and May the force be with you!
This is kind of like Captain America: The Winter Soldier. "I thought the punishment usually comes after the crime." You're so right about what Harrow is doing. Eradicating evil sounds good and all, but something like killing a child for something they may do in 30 years is just wrong. Also, as much as I like the idea of having the Moon Knight suit and powers, I don't think I would serve Khonshu if he's going to have me killing people. Death is not the only way "punish" evil, but it's not always the right way either.
Congrats, you figured out that he was a street performer before finishing the show lol. I was so confused about that until I was watching a reaction to it. I thought it was a statue my whole first watch, and maybe that the cult leader guy or someone was pretending to be the statue here.
"I don't know if there's a good side." Very good question. Punishing people before they commit bad acts is unquestionably bad, but, even after the fact, is punishing always the only option? I like the complexity of the way this show tackles this sort of question. Looking forward to the rest of your reactions. Subscribed.
It's fair to compare it with a cult yeah. Like most cultists Arthur's fixated on believing he's doing the right thing, even though his motives and reasoning is flawed. Punishing someone because of something they *might* do in the future is pretty extreme
As you've been talking about the implications of Amit's method, I had an interesting thought come to me. Even if Amit is able to see what the future will be, and thus determine if someone will do something evil in the future, eliminating them all wouldn't solve anything. Because every time you interfere to try to prevent the current future, you'd just be reshuffling the way that the future would unfold. So, interestingly, even if at the time of judgement every person within that community was a good person and would be until they die, every time a new person is judged and killed, their judgement would be invalid, because it would be judging them based off of a no longer existent world timeline. Likewise, the act of judging in favor of someone might have the chance of actually making them a bad person, because once they're judged they might think that it's absolute, and that nothing they could do would be wrong.
You should definitely try watching Minority Report as a follow up to this! It's not Marvel, but it deals with the same kind of concepts you're talking about here; free will versus predestination. And it's a great Tom Cruse movie! Keep up the excellent reactions. :)
Interesting that a horror show brings out the Scooby in you. I like it hehe. Also now that you mention that you have a crescent moon tattoo, I'm intrigued to see what other tattoos you've got and for what reason. There are those who do tattoos just for the sake of it or through peer pressure but there are many who have done it because it means something deep to them.
Hi this is my fave Disney Plus Marvel series so glad to relive it with you. I don't want to spoil anything but I must warn you that for episode 5 you probably do not want to ware any eye makeup and have tissues alot of them on standby😥. Have fun with the show will be watching.😎
Kennie - Hi Emme 👋 I just finished watching your reaction to Moon Knight episode 2 I've enjoyed your reaction to the first episode anyway I like your reactions episode so much in the part where Layla says it's not okay yeah I'm still your wife and Steven goes I would never divorce you that's really sweet that's my favorite part of this episode 2, you seem to be enjoying watching Moon knight and enjoying and loving Khonshu and Steven Grant and Layla I like Layla too the actress is amazing I mean wait till you see episode 6 you'll love Layla more in episode 6 I won't spoil but just you wait you just got three more episodes to go to episode 6 I can't wait to see your reaction episode 3 on Saturday by the way Emme I really love the part when you explain the very good points of this show like Arthur Harold serving Ammit and destroy evil before it even starts or not even people the chance to change their will or their minds and Khonshu punishes evil after someone does it and the part were mark says that he's protecting his wife Layla from Khnoshu so that she's not his next candidate and that Leo doesn't get any danger or trouble like how Marcus having a deal with Khnoshu and so now the story will take place in the third episode in Egypt see your reacton to the next video Emme.
I like how Marvel does these things but without spoilers and taking Egyptian Mythology almost as it's given the question I think is more interesting. Khonshu never once says that Ammit predicts their actions incorrectly or that their actions are subject to change. In universe in some ways at least things are predetermined for most people - not that they don't have free will but that every variable that would contribute to the decisions you made is predetermined (to an extent) so your actions can be too why does knowing how your free will will react to things necessitate that you didn't have it to start. That sort of Divine Order, innate Truth and other aspects like this especially in the cyclical and the aristocratic divine beings knowing better are very common in Egyptian myth, as compared with Mesopotamina just looking at the simplest reasons that the Nile flooded regularly at the same time every year, and the Tigris and Euphrates flooded randomly, so their gods and worldview were more capricious. Marc we see is an outlier because of his disorder, his role in history is not yet fully determined - which strongly implies that for others it is known because we know what happens when it isn't. I think it's a much more interesting concept to take it at it's word and then follow from that. Like we have enough Captain America, Han Solo "never tell me the odds" stories which are frankly a terrible basis on which to build a worldview in the absence of the countervailing truth. Andor takes the alternate perspective, and Moon Knight to an extent did too but was more interested in exploring the interpersonal dynamics with this belief rather than it's merits. He takes the position that it is categorically wrong with little discussion as to where the lines are and why (given that khonshu even in Egyptian myth is an impulsive powerful teenager wearing a fake beard of adulthood like a young pharoah), but I think the actual question is much more interesting - what if someone's wrong prevents future worse wrongs, when we can't have others make mistakes for us how will we learn what right even means, is it wrong to kill hitler as a child if you know all possible future outcomes of that choice, and at that point the only question is do we trust Ammit to make these calls for us. If there's a 99.99% chance they are right that's far better than our justice system, and maybe if they can be measured to have a demonstrably negative effect on people and the timeline, not just through their own sins but that the commission of their sins isn't valuable enough to teach others or is past a degree of no return or harm like Murder of someone who is good- than is it justified? Final MCU question for you to think about whenever you get there, but how does He Who Remains feel about this.
I wonder under what criteria does Amit judge something as evil. We all do bad things so how bad does it have to be? A thought,,sneaking office supplies from work, candy bar from a store or only really heinous things, major theft, assault, murder
So I'm a little late to this rxn, but still enjoying it. As far as the prejudgement of wrongdoers goes you might like the Tom Cruise film "Minority Report" which explores the concept a bit more within the context of a near future whodonnit. I think you'll enjoy most of the rest of Marvel's MCU output, though imo "Moonknight" puts most of the rest to shame.
So to clarify does that mean at the end of episode 6? Or each episode? Because I haven't noticed that for the episodes I've filmed so far and hoping I didn't miss anything!
8:30 no she can't, since the mirrors are just tools for better communication between Marc & Steven. Marc isn't actually on the other side of the mirror but in Steven's head. You see it more clearly at the end of that episode
I want to post a comment so you get the engagement metrics to defeat the dreaded algorithm, but it's almost impossible to say anything without dropping spoilers. Eventually *most* of your questions will get answered. I can tell you this: The Moon Knight comics have been raising the question "Is Khonshu a good guy or a bad guy?" for several decades and the answer is, at best, ambiguous. Khonshu is literally the God of Vengeance and Righteous Justice. He sees all the terrible things that mankind does in the dark and his is the swift and terrible vengeance of the victimized, with the Moon Knight being his "Fist of Vengeance." Is he good? Kinda, he does avenge those who are made victims of crime and violence. Is he a bad guy? Kinda, as his idea of justice is rather brutal and high-handed -- Khonshu idea of justice seems to be along the line of "Oh, you robbed an old lady's purse, and she broke her hip when you knocked her over? Moon Knight, please drop this man off a tall building." Khonshu takes it a step beyond "an eye for an eye" and seems to think that, say, chopping off a pickpocket's hands is "letting him off easy." He definitely pushes Moon Knight to be far more brutal than we would accept from, say, a police officer. Khonshu is like one of those ultraconservatives who thinks "police brutality" is made-up nonsense by the faint hearted, too timid to do what is necessary. But he is an ancient god-like power that predates human civilization, so I guess that goes with the territory. I would ultimately put Khonshu in the category of "good, but a total asshole about it." At least he, unlike Ammunet, waits until *after* someone commits a crime to punish them.
I think a lot of the explanation of Khonshu's approach arises from the fact his morality is based on bronze age ethics. He's a god from the 2nd millenium bce and that largely defines his absolutist, 'old testament' style code.
@@barkingmonkee Oh, yeah. Khonshu is, as my dad would put it, "older than dirt." When Hammurabi was carving his code into stone tablets, Khonshu had already been enforcing justice for millennia. I don't even know if "Bronze Age" is the right term. Maybe "Stone Age." Khonshu literally thinks it's acceptable for Marc to *murder* people for the mere crime of *not giving him information fast enough.* That is several levels past "hardcore."
Just a heads up (I know a little late), I know the show is amazing, especially the music, but you shouldn't take the mythology presented as overly accurate. They do add more accurate info than the average hollywood movie, but it was still so bad that my fellow egyptology students in uni wouldn't even want to hear the name of the show, this is how upset they are. Also Egyptian mythology doesn't have a canon like other religions, like Christianity has. Every place in Egypt has their own local stories and myths and the gods presented in the show are mostly from Heliopolitan mythology (after the city Heliopolis (it's Greek name)). The most important religious sites in Egypt were Thebes, Memphis and Saqqara. (I can talk about this for a lot longer, but I fear that would break the RUclips-comment characterlimit lol.) But I've loved your reaction of the show so far and can't wait to finish your videos!
y'all khonshu is SO COOL but still unsure of figuring who the "right" and most "just" person is to deal with evil. i'm loving this series so far!
This is such a cool series. Oscar Isaac turned in a phenomenal performance! It's a bit of a wild ride but it's never boring and I loved it!
"I was doin it for the moon!"
😆 The Moon Knight battle cry
Honestly maybe I should say that to myself before doing homework and it would be more motivating
Omg, how can that not be motivating? The moon needs you now more than ever!
Steven trying to summon the suit had me cackling.
Another excellent reaction! One thing Marvel has (almost) always done well is that the heroes are often flawed and conflicted, and the "villains" will sometimes have backstories and motives that are understandable, even if their means of achieving them can be questionable (to say the least). In Marvel comic books (and now, sometimes, in the MCU itself), "good" guys will sometimes turn bad and "bad" guys will sometimes turn good. Moon Knight is particularly successful in this regard because (as you've found out) it really does make you think about right vs. wrong and what it even means to be "good" or "bad".
I would also like to add that Marvel also has the most number of "anti-heroes" on their roster. I mean, the Punisher & Deadpool alone are the ultimate anti-hero superheroes. So yeah, Marvel does play around with the "grey area" quite a bit. It's not even surprising to see bad guys switch allegiance and start helping the good guys. It's very rare that Marvel will give you a purely good or purely evil character.
22:10 Steven said 'being on the inside' not 'on the other side' that's an important detail. Steven is inside their mind now, not in the mirror
Great analysis of free will! That plot point makes the show really interesting!
The series gets more interesting and mysterious as you watch it! Very excited for your next reaction!
Love watching your reactions Emme! Moonknight is a fantastic series! I think it may be the best in the MCU! Oscar Isaacks, Ethan Hawke and May Calamawy acting in this series is outstanding! Can’t wait for your journey to continue and May the force be with you!
This is kind of like Captain America: The Winter Soldier. "I thought the punishment usually comes after the crime." You're so right about what Harrow is doing. Eradicating evil sounds good and all, but something like killing a child for something they may do in 30 years is just wrong. Also, as much as I like the idea of having the Moon Knight suit and powers, I don't think I would serve Khonshu if he's going to have me killing people. Death is not the only way "punish" evil, but it's not always the right way either.
I love when you say "Rut Row" such a Scooby Doo thing!
Congrats, you figured out that he was a street performer before finishing the show lol. I was so confused about that until I was watching a reaction to it. I thought it was a statue my whole first watch, and maybe that the cult leader guy or someone was pretending to be the statue here.
Thank You .
I really like that you stop the program when you speak for an extended period. A lot of reactors don’t and end up missing things!
I think I especially learned that early on in Moon Knight, this show causes me to have a new train of thought every minute sometimes LOL
@@emme That sounds appropriate while watching this show in particular. 😄
"I don't know if there's a good side." Very good question. Punishing people before they commit bad acts is unquestionably bad, but, even after the fact, is punishing always the only option? I like the complexity of the way this show tackles this sort of question.
Looking forward to the rest of your reactions. Subscribed.
That's why I love characters like ghost Rider, punisher and moon knight, I agree that the guilty need to be punished
Letsss gooooo 💜💜this show gets better and better
Your videos are like watching the TV series themselves, im always excited for the new episodes
Thank you so much!! That's kind of you to say.
the psycho colonel Sanders line was hilarious to me 😂
It's fair to compare it with a cult yeah. Like most cultists Arthur's fixated on believing he's doing the right thing, even though his motives and reasoning is flawed.
Punishing someone because of something they *might* do in the future is pretty extreme
Am so excited for you to watch the 1st episode of the clone wars this Thursday you will love it it's amazing
As you've been talking about the implications of Amit's method, I had an interesting thought come to me. Even if Amit is able to see what the future will be, and thus determine if someone will do something evil in the future, eliminating them all wouldn't solve anything. Because every time you interfere to try to prevent the current future, you'd just be reshuffling the way that the future would unfold.
So, interestingly, even if at the time of judgement every person within that community was a good person and would be until they die, every time a new person is judged and killed, their judgement would be invalid, because it would be judging them based off of a no longer existent world timeline. Likewise, the act of judging in favor of someone might have the chance of actually making them a bad person, because once they're judged they might think that it's absolute, and that nothing they could do would be wrong.
You should definitely try watching Minority Report as a follow up to this! It's not Marvel, but it deals with the same kind of concepts you're talking about here; free will versus predestination. And it's a great Tom Cruse movie! Keep up the excellent reactions. :)
Omg, I love that you say Scooby-Doos rougarou! So cute!
Interesting that a horror show brings out the Scooby in you. I like it hehe.
Also now that you mention that you have a crescent moon tattoo, I'm intrigued to see what other tattoos you've got and for what reason. There are those who do tattoos just for the sake of it or through peer pressure but there are many who have done it because it means something deep to them.
Wasn't in the mood for a Moon Knight reaction. But it's Emme so I was in the mood to be cheered up with your smile.
Hi this is my fave Disney Plus Marvel series so glad to relive it with you. I don't want to spoil anything but I must warn you that for episode 5 you probably do not want to ware any eye makeup and have tissues alot of them on standby😥. Have fun with the show will be watching.😎
Kennie - Hi Emme 👋 I just finished watching your reaction to Moon Knight episode 2 I've enjoyed your reaction to the first episode anyway I like your reactions episode so much in the part where Layla says it's not okay yeah I'm still your wife and Steven goes I would never divorce you that's really sweet that's my favorite part of this episode 2, you seem to be enjoying watching Moon knight and enjoying and loving Khonshu and Steven Grant and Layla I like Layla too the actress is amazing I mean wait till you see episode 6 you'll love Layla more in episode 6 I won't spoil but just you wait you just got three more episodes to go to episode 6 I can't wait to see your reaction episode 3 on Saturday by the way Emme I really love the part when you explain the very good points of this show like Arthur Harold serving Ammit and destroy evil before it even starts or not even people the chance to change their will or their minds and Khonshu punishes evil after someone does it and the part were mark says that he's protecting his wife Layla from Khnoshu so that she's not his next candidate and that Leo doesn't get any danger or trouble like how Marcus having a deal with Khnoshu and so now the story will take place in the third episode in Egypt see your reacton to the next video Emme.
I like how Marvel does these things but without spoilers and taking Egyptian Mythology almost as it's given the question I think is more interesting. Khonshu never once says that Ammit predicts their actions incorrectly or that their actions are subject to change. In universe in some ways at least things are predetermined for most people - not that they don't have free will but that every variable that would contribute to the decisions you made is predetermined (to an extent) so your actions can be too why does knowing how your free will will react to things necessitate that you didn't have it to start. That sort of Divine Order, innate Truth and other aspects like this especially in the cyclical and the aristocratic divine beings knowing better are very common in Egyptian myth, as compared with Mesopotamina just looking at the simplest reasons that the Nile flooded regularly at the same time every year, and the Tigris and Euphrates flooded randomly, so their gods and worldview were more capricious. Marc we see is an outlier because of his disorder, his role in history is not yet fully determined - which strongly implies that for others it is known because we know what happens when it isn't.
I think it's a much more interesting concept to take it at it's word and then follow from that. Like we have enough Captain America, Han Solo "never tell me the odds" stories which are frankly a terrible basis on which to build a worldview in the absence of the countervailing truth. Andor takes the alternate perspective, and Moon Knight to an extent did too but was more interested in exploring the interpersonal dynamics with this belief rather than it's merits. He takes the position that it is categorically wrong with little discussion as to where the lines are and why (given that khonshu even in Egyptian myth is an impulsive powerful teenager wearing a fake beard of adulthood like a young pharoah), but I think the actual question is much more interesting -
what if someone's wrong prevents future worse wrongs, when we can't have others make mistakes for us how will we learn what right even means, is it wrong to kill hitler as a child if you know all possible future outcomes of that choice, and at that point the only question is do we trust Ammit to make these calls for us. If there's a 99.99% chance they are right that's far better than our justice system, and maybe if they can be measured to have a demonstrably negative effect on people and the timeline, not just through their own sins but that the commission of their sins isn't valuable enough to teach others or is past a degree of no return or harm like Murder of someone who is good- than is it justified?
Final MCU question for you to think about whenever you get there, but how does He Who Remains feel about this.
How dare you question the true justice of vengeance? Praise Ammit!
( I would be so punished by now if she actually existed. 😅)
I wonder under what criteria does Amit judge something as evil. We all do bad things so how bad does it have to be? A thought,,sneaking office supplies from work, candy bar from a store or only really heinous things, major theft, assault, murder
So I'm a little late to this rxn, but still enjoying it. As far as the prejudgement of wrongdoers goes you might like the Tom Cruise film "Minority Report" which explores the concept a bit more within the context of a near future whodonnit.
I think you'll enjoy most of the rest of Marvel's MCU output, though imo "Moonknight" puts most of the rest to shame.
“Where is mom?” You don’t wanna know 😭
React to The Boys on Prime Video. It is amazingly Insane! You’ll love it 😊
In the hair style in the footage before he said it is no me is marc
Don't forget the fact that marvel movies and series have Mid credits&end credits
For all marvel projects
So to clarify does that mean at the end of episode 6? Or each episode? Because I haven't noticed that for the episodes I've filmed so far and hoping I didn't miss anything!
@@emme I believe there is a post-credits scene in Episode 6, but not before that.
@@wolfofthewest8019 Thank you! I'm glad I didn't miss this then
8:30 no she can't, since the mirrors are just tools for better communication between Marc & Steven. Marc isn't actually on the other side of the mirror but in Steven's head. You see it more clearly at the end of that episode
I want to post a comment so you get the engagement metrics to defeat the dreaded algorithm, but it's almost impossible to say anything without dropping spoilers. Eventually *most* of your questions will get answered.
I can tell you this: The Moon Knight comics have been raising the question "Is Khonshu a good guy or a bad guy?" for several decades and the answer is, at best, ambiguous. Khonshu is literally the God of Vengeance and Righteous Justice. He sees all the terrible things that mankind does in the dark and his is the swift and terrible vengeance of the victimized, with the Moon Knight being his "Fist of Vengeance." Is he good? Kinda, he does avenge those who are made victims of crime and violence. Is he a bad guy? Kinda, as his idea of justice is rather brutal and high-handed -- Khonshu idea of justice seems to be along the line of "Oh, you robbed an old lady's purse, and she broke her hip when you knocked her over? Moon Knight, please drop this man off a tall building." Khonshu takes it a step beyond "an eye for an eye" and seems to think that, say, chopping off a pickpocket's hands is "letting him off easy."
He definitely pushes Moon Knight to be far more brutal than we would accept from, say, a police officer. Khonshu is like one of those ultraconservatives who thinks "police brutality" is made-up nonsense by the faint hearted, too timid to do what is necessary. But he is an ancient god-like power that predates human civilization, so I guess that goes with the territory. I would ultimately put Khonshu in the category of "good, but a total asshole about it." At least he, unlike Ammunet, waits until *after* someone commits a crime to punish them.
I think a lot of the explanation of Khonshu's approach arises from the fact his morality is based on bronze age ethics. He's a god from the 2nd millenium bce and that largely defines his absolutist, 'old testament' style code.
@@barkingmonkee Oh, yeah. Khonshu is, as my dad would put it, "older than dirt." When Hammurabi was carving his code into stone tablets, Khonshu had already been enforcing justice for millennia. I don't even know if "Bronze Age" is the right term. Maybe "Stone Age." Khonshu literally thinks it's acceptable for Marc to *murder* people for the mere crime of *not giving him information fast enough.* That is several levels past "hardcore."
Do it daily.. I like your reaction 🇪🇬
You have a tattoo, already?
Just a heads up (I know a little late), I know the show is amazing, especially the music, but you shouldn't take the mythology presented as overly accurate. They do add more accurate info than the average hollywood movie, but it was still so bad that my fellow egyptology students in uni wouldn't even want to hear the name of the show, this is how upset they are. Also Egyptian mythology doesn't have a canon like other religions, like Christianity has. Every place in Egypt has their own local stories and myths and the gods presented in the show are mostly from Heliopolitan mythology (after the city Heliopolis (it's Greek name)). The most important religious sites in Egypt were Thebes, Memphis and Saqqara. (I can talk about this for a lot longer, but I fear that would break the RUclips-comment characterlimit lol.)
But I've loved your reaction of the show so far and can't wait to finish your videos!