It’s a shame as I enjoy the Wizarding world and my sister said she wasn’t going to play Hogwarts Legacy because of Rowling’s statements. Me? I’m playing the game (when it comes out on PS4) because I want to see how things were in the 1800’s! Besides I don’t associate the art with the artist’s beliefs. (Though I’ll be amazed if someone asked if she actually took a peak at the Cursed Child before saying it should be canon especially with what she said about time turners and why she destroyed them)
I watched the first FB thinking I would see a Nick Fury type scene with Dumbledore at the end,but come the second movie and it was just a glorified filler tv episode with a 6 minutes scene of the most popular Harry Potter legacy character plus many plotholes and while the 3rd tries to fix many things it became mediocre while the movie needed to be at least good.
Two things I'm mainly bummed about with Fantastic Beasts being cancelled: 1. Not seeing Grindelwald and Dumbledore's epic duel 2. Newt and Tina not kissing once I do hope we get to see Newt, Jacob, Tina, and Queenie again in the franchise and that this won't be the last we see of them.
The reason it failed was because it didn't know what it wanted to be. If you want to make a prequel about Dumbledore and Grindelwald, make it about that and nothing else. If you want to make it about Newt and his Fantastic Beasts, make it about him and his beasts and nothing else, similar to what happened to The Hobbit Trilogy, which should not have been a trilogy.
Exactly. I loved Newt and the gang and I enjoyed the first movie. But the Dumbledore and Grindelwald story absolutely didn't do it for me. And unpopular opinion: I was never a fan of casting Depp (completely unrelated to the abuse stuff btw). So the movies lost me with the second movie and thus I didn't bother to watch the third. I might have enjoyed the Grindelwald story if it didn't start off with the Phantastic beasts story but rather it being more separated.
Exactly, should've been four or five different films around books in the HP films. Fantastic beasts Quiddich through the ages Hogwarts a history Are a few examples, then why not some origin type things like dumbledor, Tom Riddle, the Mauraders, honestly it's not rocket science and would've made a ton of money if done right.
My only real problem with the fantastic beast movies is that the magic just seems even more inconsistent then the original books were. The magic in Harry Potter always felt like we were missing a bit of an explanation, but the magic in fantastic beasts movies especially secrets of Dumbledore left me feeling like we are missing a lot context to the magic on top of no explanation
Eddie Redmayne as Newt Scamander was one of the best thing that happened to the whole HP franchise! I find it amazing that a whole new storyline emerged out of a single character (Scamander) that nobody knew nothing about except that he'd written a book!
TO: @@MasterMonix ... RE: type cast so, if you "see" where I am coming from you understand that ~ 1) sometimes the part makes the actor & sometimes the actor creates a character. 4EX: Johnny Depp ~ he ~ he can create a character, even though he is not particularly great with dialogue vs. someone like Alan Rickman who was extraordinarily great with dialogue where he demands listening to with every syllable. In this case, the part was so well written by JK that any not incompetent typecast child who looked the part could play the part of Harry Potter. Dan, Mr. Radcliffe was typecast as a bright eyed little boy for which he was natural; he was indeed a bright eyed little boy with an emphasis on little. This started to show in the third film in addition to the fact that we could see that he trying to act and you could see it ~ you could see the techniques that he was using. BTW... he, Mr. Radcliffe himself tells us that this is true. . 2) For me and a "few" others that I've discussed the point, Daniel's "shortcomings" came to a head in the scene where Harry goes to the court yard to reveal to Cedric that the first task is about facing a dragon. As he approaches Cedric he is “stomping” (great acting technique~barf) through the colonnade and he bumps into Ron and boom ~ all suspension of belief is lost ~ Harry is not there ~ no longer a little boy ~ little adolescent Daniel Radcliffe is there showing the world that he was no longer little Harry Potter because Harry Potter is not suppose to be so little at this point. Harry Potter is suppose to be somewhere between 5'11” and 6'1”. Rupert Grint's intensity, Ron next to Dan showed just exactly what a “gitt” that Radcliffe is by comparison. The Harry “stomps over” (great acting~barf) to talk to Cedric and Cedric stands up to his full height and reveals the real Dan, “little” Dan ~ you know, Radcliffe in the naked without a camera angle to help his acting. Instead of a teenager, he looked and acted like a little boy. The fact is that Daniel cannot emote things from his being that are not inside his being. Sadly Radcliffe's insides, like his outsides never grew and he was doomed to spend the rest of the films, acting, acting the part of Harry Potter instead of being Harry Potter. . 3) From that point forward, the movies were ruined for me and ruined for those “few” of whom I have made mention. :( But … but, but, but … by then, we've read and RE-read the books several times. Hence, we all wanted to see what Hollywood could do; therefore we supported the movies in spite of the fact that Radcliffe stunk the movies up to the highest heaven. Emma Watson also suffers from the delusion that she is an actress when in fact her weaknesses and immaturity began to show in the same film on the stairs after the dance (but that's another story.) Only one of the “big three” maintained a consistent character and growth throughout the films ~ Rupert. IOW... although there were quite a number of standout performances ~ compared to the material they had to work with, the films were not particularly well done ~ and the main culprit is Daniel Radcliffe, the producers, and the directors. Nevertheless, the films were great because JK's writing and vision was so very very great that no matter who played the parts or who directed the movies ~ they were going to be a success. Some things were great ~ the crew ~ the CGI, the props, the costumes and etc. They were half the movies. Nevertheless, the only one that I can think of that made a huge contribution, a huge difference to the movies that wasn't already in the books by JK was ~ John Williams. Composer Maestro Williams, in my humble opinion is responsible for half of the success of the movies. . Here's my parting words about Radcliffe. Let's take a look at his most notable parts. . ~ “Equus” ~ he is “affectionate” with a horse. When he asked the director for advice about what to do he was told ~ Go - - - - the horse … so he reached deep into the depths of his soul and did what the director directed. ~ “Kill Your Darlings” … once again, he looked like a little child next to DeHaan ~ who won an award for his performance. Here, Radcliffe shows his depth of acting prowess by filming his famous “backdoor” scene. ~ “Imperium” ~ a RE-inactment of the scene with Cedric where this time as an FBI agent, he stands toe to toe with neo-Nazi and looks like the juvinille that he still is. ~ “Swiss Army Man” … an updated version of “Week-end at Bernie's”. As a half dead ~ dead person he plays his best part to date. ~ Radcliffe was in a little movie “Now You See Me 2” with Michael Caine. Radcliffe said that when he grows up he wants to be like Michael Caine. That's a joke … That's never going to happen … Here's what Caine said to Radcliffe in the movie. WM: Dad, I promise you I will fix this. AT: You can't. Stop calling me dad. There were so many women, I have no idea whose bastard you are. Once again, Radcliffe looked and acted like what he really is ~ a celebrity. He's not an actor. He is a celebrity ~ not because of any personal talent, but because of the genius of JK ~ and nothing else. . So … You said, “I can see where you are coming from.” So … I've explained “a little” of where I am coming from. I have not explained how great an actor Edward John David Redmayne really is ~ but he does have an Oscar to explain all that for him. In other words... Academy Award winner vs. a little child star celebrity. Dan Radcliffe started to stop being Harry Potter during the third movie and died a sad death in the fourth. But a lot of people were blinded by their love for the book Harry Potter and transferred that love to Radcliffe ~ and now, though he can't act, he is very popular and a very big celebrity who hasn't done much else except, jockey a horse, open the back door for a guy off the street, play a half dead zombie, and cast as a villain in Now You See Me 2 ~ because of his celebrity ~ in which film, as a villain, he had no where near the gravitas that James Cagney brought to the screne, who is also a little man at 5'5” but a giant in the category of talent. By comparison ~ Radcliffe is no Mickey Rooney nor is he any where near an Edward G. Robinson who was also 5'5”. In my opinion... Edward Redmayne not only did a better job than Radcliffe but Redmayne's Newt was deeper, more sensitive, more real, and better than any character that Johnny Depp ever created. Redmayne should have received another academy award. BTW … If you can't tell... I hate hero worshiping. But.... but, but, but If there were a real hero here it would be JK who is responsible for everything in and about the Wizarding World ~ except the music ~ and like JK … Maestro Williams is still awesome ~ even at 90. So... Did you … could you … can you Do you see where I am coming from? & Does it still seem like a stretch ~ or well considered & totally legitimate ??? . peace.
@@harryabelpotter9630 was newt Scamander ur childhood? is he nostalgic? was the the first the OG? i am not saying from a point of acting i am saying from childhood love btw i watched the movies before i knew the books even existed btw Radcliffe was so famous that every movie worked in oh there's harry potter so yes i still think its a longshot and i see where ur coming from
This really sucks. Crimes of Grindelwald is actually my favorite of the three despite its flaws. It's the only one that felt like a Harry Potter movie and in terms of lore it was awesome to see that stuff play out. I don't even mind the long flashback. Not their fault that nobody has an attention span today. That was one of my favorite scenes. I hope the plan is to end the "Fantastic Beasts" branding, and that in a few years they come out with a standalone movie of Dumbledore vs Grindelwald.
I don't see why that would be necessary, especially when you realize that Secrets of Dumbledore only bombed because Johnny Depp wasn't in it. Newt Scamander's specific personality and skill set, and yes, the fantastic beasts, are still necessary for the story. You would have to completely rewrite Crimes of Grindelwald and Secrets of Dumbledore in order to remove those elements and still tell the same stories. I don't think the complaints that the fantastic beasts and Newt are no longer the focus of the story and that they should be removed are valid.
Yeah! Would’ve preferred more as Newt and the new characters were the best parts overall for me. No matter what, Eddie Redmayne’s performance as Newt was underrated solid that deserves more appreciation.
I wish the first movie had been an independent film apart from its later installments. The story of Dumbledore and Grindelwald should have been a different trilogy than Fantastic Beasts, focusing more on dumbledore. What a loss for all fans, including me. It had so much potential.
I agree with you👍🏻 Also if the first film was independent from the other two I think it could've led to a potential TV series focused on Newt writing his book with each episode dedicated to a certain beast.
Absolutely. Mixing Americans, American muggles and a bookworm was a terrible decision. Grindlewald story should be a passionate violent affair, rated 15 - the animals and the before mentioned characters just detracts from what could be one of the best plots. Also, Johnny portrayed sacrifice, pain, love and anger. We didn’t get that with Mads, just a normal psychopathic villain.
Exactly . They should have introduced everyone in fantastic beast and where to find them. And next film should be focused on Dumbledore and grinderwald mostly. And the next one about the past life between them and the blood pact. 4th movie should be about the havocs grinderwald created and the hero squad trying to find a way to stop him. 5th movie them executing the plans in order and defeating him
I can not speak for everyone but for me the Cursed Child also played a role. After spending money for it which I considered in hindsight wasted I went in the series thinking: "Am I making the same mistake twice, falling for the next cash grab?" and reacted to canon mistakes like McGonagalls appearance a lot harsher than I normally would.
I agree with you that Fantastic Beasts should have been a book series first and a film franchise second. There was so much stuff that didn't add up or that wasn't explained properly and then all the stuff happening with the actors; it just wasn't cutting it and as much as I'd love to see all five movies, I am aware of the flaws and the problematic behaviour of three major people involved.
Personally, I still wish JK Rowling would've released the novels for this series first (or atleast simultaneously along with the films) and I think it would of had a lot more source material to go with just like the original Harry Potter series.
Given that she often stated that Dumbledore was her favourite character to write I'm honestly surprised she didn't decide to turn his backstory into novels first.
Bro, HUGE props to you for admitting that you fell in with everyone else and were brainwashed: That type of honesty and self-awareness is SEVERELY lacking in most places today, so I was stunned and pleasantly surprised to see your admission. I've seen myself get caught up in popular criticism at times and go against how I TRULY felt, so it's cool to see a creator of your stature admit the same thing. Well done, man!
Yeah, except that Secrets of Dumbledore actually did SUCK BALLS. I put aside the pre-dispositions of JK Rowling, WB and Ezra Miller, and evaluated the movie for what it was. The plot was moronic and puzzling to say the least. Watch the SuperCarlinBros review to get a full idea.
@@nahor88 Yeah fanboys can't admit when a movie just sucked. They have to use mental gymnastics to claim that they were brainwashed to hating it. This comment section has some cult-like delusions. Most Potter fans I know like some of the movies and dislike some of the movies. This channel just worships all the movies.
There’s lots of GOOD reasons to dislike these awful movies and boiling it down to superficial bandwagon effects doesnt give enough credit to the actual reasons why these movies suck.
I think the franchise can be saved just by hiring someone other than David Yates. Apart from Deathly Hallows Part 2, all his other 6 movies were poorly received. Why they are still trusting him to do Harry Potter movies is a mystery to me. Hogwarts Legacy proved that controversies don't matter, if a Harry Potter project is good, it's gonna be a success.
Keeping Johnny Depp might have saved this franchise. Riding on the coattails of his win in court and the fandom that surrounded him, it might have propped up the box office performance. I hope one day we can see the conclusion of this story. I would it to be finished in book form but I don't think that is likely.
I think a trick they missed out on was why Grindelwald changed his face between the 2nd and 3rd film. I think it would have been an interesting plot point that we don't know what he actually looked like, what his true motive were, who he really is, until he's defeated by Dumbledore. You could then change the actor for that role in each film and so it wouldn't seem odd that he changed between the 2nd to the 3rd. It could tie in with their love story too, how Dumbledore is trying to get back the person that he loved but realises that just isn't possible. I've not written this very well but I hope you get the gist.
When I watched the 3rd movie I honestly thought Grindelwald changed his face to be more appealing to other wizards to follow him. I didn’t even know that Depp was replaced until I looked it up😂
I didn't watch the third movie, just seen a bunch of commentary videos but YES they should have definitely explained why he looked different. This is like one of the few movies universes where you can actually explain an actor change that fits with the lore and they just didn't do it which is honestly a stupid move. I can't believe they didn't.
It does indeed make me wonder if there’s any other magical people or practices that can make a person change their appearance at will aside from just Polyjuice Potion or Animagi.
I really resonate with your message about social media kind of having a cascading effect of either negative or positive views of a movie/show. Like if all you see/hear on social media about a movie/show is negative, even if you haven't seen it yet, that can affect how you view it when or if you do see it. I honestly wish people were a bit more restrained on being so overly hateful at least until they've actually seen it (or in case of a tv show, seen the entire series before passing judgement).
The main thing for me was the writing. The movies had the same problem that some super hero films have, in that they tried to cram too many storylines into one series. This can work in a book, but for me it felt like the series whole premise changed. This isn't to say I didn't want to see Dumbledore explored, but he almost needed his own movie. There could have been a duology or trilogy focused on Newt and the beasts, and then a movie or two focused on Dumbledore (in which Newt could have made a cameo). That way it would have been clear who the protagonist was (Newt or Dumbledore) and what the focus was supposed to be (the beasts or Grindelwald). Even Marvel makes a point of giving characters their own series, before mashing them together in a multi-protagonist team up. Of course the controversies didn't help. While I think the writing was the main reason for the film's failure (as controversy alone hasn't stopped the success of Hogwarts Legacy), the controversy COULD have prevented the films from JUST squeaking by. Plenty of mediocre or disappointing films have still been finished, after all. No one calls the Transformers movies masterpieces, and Marvel has its misses, but the movies still do okay, if not great, because of fan support. All in all, it was just a bad combination. The scripts were disappointing, and then there was anger from the fans on top of that. I still love the first film, because it was clear who and what it was about, and I loved Newt's character. However, even as a diehard Potterhead, I'll admit I haven't seen the third film yet. I was disappointed when I watched the second film (I've seen it twice now, and I definitely don't remember Lolly, and I've already forgotten why Leta Lestrange was important). There's more I could say, but maybe I should just make my own video at this point. 😅
I am honestly so bummed by this! The movies aren't bad at all. I enjoyed watching them SO MUCH. The only reason I couldn't watch FB3 in the theatres was because of my exams. The duels, the creatures, the plot of this movie (as I later found out for myself) were REALLY good. Even the people of my Twitter feed, who hated the fact that Depp had been fired, actually seemed to love Mads' portrayal of Grindelwald. As for the mirror dimension scene, I know it was really confusing and not explained well, but there are so many things in the original Harry Potter movies that haven't been explained at all, and we needed to read the books to understand that stuff. I honestly feel that hating these movies had sort of become a trend on the internet. I don't understand why it is so hard to separate the art from the artist, especially when there are so many other people involved in it. This is so unfair to the cast and crew who had worked so genuinely hard on these movies. It's sad that we won't get to see the Epic Duel between Dumbledore and Grindelwald, and the fall of Grindelwald's tyranny. The last 2 movies would've been EPIC.😕
I am honestly disappointed that the fantastic beast series was cancelled just about halfway through its intended 5 movie story. I enjoyed all 3 of the movies, along Newt Scamander's character and role in the battle against Grindelwald, as well as many of the other main characters. I am even glad that the secrets of Dumbledore touched upon what happened between Albus, Aberforth, and Arianna, which the Harry Potter deathly hallow movies kind of glossed over. I also wish we got to see how Newt played a role in Grindelwald's final defeat, as well as the famous duel between Gellert Grindelwald and Albus Dumbledore that was considered the greatest duel in the history of the Wizarding World. At the very least, the fantastic beasts movies ended with the good guys beating the bad guys, and having a somewhat happy ending.
I'm glad you explained how Johnny was innocent. WB kinda shot themselves in the foot there. It's insane that they're keeping AH and Ezra on for Aquaman 2 but they'll fire Depp over empty allegations.
@@piratesswoop725 completely different justice systems, and it’s much easier to win those types of cases in the UK, where everything including verdict falls on the subjective opinion of a judge. And if you don’ understand why the endless lies exposed in the US case spoke against nearly every allegation Heard levied against Depp, I’m not sure much will help you.
@@kanpoe7043 As opposed to the total unbiased and subjective opinion of a jury, the majority of whom have no legal background. Please lol. Especially with that case. A high profile case like that where you don’t sequester the jury is absurd.
@@piratesswoop725 lol wow, you might need this written in crayon. Yes a jury, being a group of people, unanimously agreeing on a verdict holds much more weight than a single individual. And legal expertise was not the least bit required to understand how AH lies were exposed. The trial aired on television and streamed across the internet, if you didn’t see what was clear as day, or understand why Heard was found at fault, you probably think OJ is innocent as well.
I actually really liked the 3rd one and it was becoming more exciting and the blood pact being broken would mean we would have been getting closer to the duel between the two. Hopefully warner bros can announce their plans and hope we can see a movie of the duel one day. I also think the reasoning for poor box office has more to do with controversy of people than the film itself.
I really like a lot of the Characters from Fantastic Beasts. Especially Newt. He gives me a lot of Luna-Vibes and she's one of my favorite Characters from the Original Cast. Due to the huge controversy of the Franchise, I'm not really suprised about the cancelation. It's still sad.
In the Pottermore lore, Luna marries Newt's grandson. I too loved the character of Newt and Eddie in that role!! Such a breath of fresh air for a leading character. I identified so deeply with his connection to animals and difficultly with people.
I agree, Luna was one of my favorites over Harry… people lack empathy and how to be kind and don’t like characters that display those types of qualities. This is why I don’t like humanity, People suck so they don’t appreciate nor do they deserve good hearted people like Newt…🤷🏽♀️
This is so not fair, I was so glad we got a prequel series for Harry Potter and I had so much faith that it would pay off, to see it just get canceled like this and put in the dirt such a sad and terrible waste, I don't think I'll ever recover from this tragedy, I'll miss you Newt Scamander and your wonderful creatures, you deserved better💔😭
Don't look at it like this! You got 3 amazing movies with him, and noone can take that from you! The series ended on a high. Everything else can play out in your head, and I am convinced there is more to come in the future!
It's a movie series getting cancelled not 9/11. And two of the movies bombed for being allegedly terrible (I won't say they were terrible cause I haven't seen them). Sucks the way things turned out but it's hardly a tragedy
I just watched your latest video and heard that Fantastic Beast was cancelled and it broke my heart researching on it. Though I'm not shocked mainly because of the third film but I know that I want to see all of the things that they build up on those 3 films. For me, Warner really screwed up big time especially when they fired Johnny Depp which made the third film confusing especially for casual fans because it looks and feels just not the same. It's really sad, I just hope that JK makes a book series to continue everything. I think I need to watch the first film to reminisce that joy of the first time I watched it 😢
I think the biggest mistake was the announcement of 5 movies because thats way too big of a number to announce especially when the main screen writer has no experience in writing a movie. That’s a trap that many studios (Warner bros especially) had walked into far too many times and it only gives the fans false hope. Now let’s hope that they handle the Hogwarts legacy HBO series that’s apparently happening a lot better by just focusing on the subject at hand instead of trying to set up something big that may or may not happen
I have a few issues with these films. But the one I’d like to mention is that the 3rd movie changed the storyline so much that the second movie didn’t even feel like the one that led up to it. I also wanted more newt and his journey with the magical creatures. Love how they were incorporated into the first movie. Kinda felt like a game lol
I'm sad that Fantastic beasts were cancelled. Anybody can say anything, but I enjoyed it, especially the first one but crimes of grindelwald and secrets of dumbledore were definitely not bad too in my opinion.
I basically think people wanted Wizard Steve Irwin and we got the rise of Wizard Hitler in super rushed format. I loved the beasts parts of the movies.
Did people really like the beasts part???? I really couldn’t give a flying fuck abojt beasts. I wanted the prequels to focus only on Dumbledore and grindewald
I hate that it was cancelled . I enjoyed Fantastic Beast more than Harry Potter. It goes to show how toxic masculinity is celebrated more than an empathetic, authentic, kind man such as Newt. Hufflepuffs are the better men and women that the world needs over Griffindor, Slytherin and Ravenclaw! The world would be a better place if people would be more like Hufflepuffs like Newt. It’s very disappointing that it’s gone because I enjoyed it and respect Newt even as a fictional character and even more the man who plays the part. I fell immediately in love with him the first 5 minutes starting on the first movie. I wish they could finish the franchise for those who loved it and wanted a conclusion of his story! I seriously hate this! 😢- A Griffindor
To me that it failed once the og cast wasn’t happy with her, and they fired Johnny without seeing if he was guilty or innocent. Also besides the internet, I think there is a lot of unhappiness that was made with the many errors they made in the movies. Also with jk being as she is, and the controversies that wb was in with the actors; I felt like they should’ve made a few stances in better direction than they did.
@@redshed2020 Him suing The Sun for defamation. He lost the lawsuit and was proven to be a wife beater on 12 occasions according to the civil standard in the UK. The best part is that he technically had the advantage in the UK court system, but lost anyway. He’s scum.
The Dumbledore and Grindelwald relationship didn't bother me. Who cares of they love each other? The problem was, their relationship had nothing to do with the title and direction the first movie took. Outside of the first movie, "Fantastic Beasts" is a complete misnomer.
I thoroughly loved all of the movies honestly as much as the original Harry Potter series, while the original gives me nostalgia and cozy feelings, the Fantastic Beasts franchise allowed me to peek further into the world of Harry Potter and I loved that. I'm pretty sad that they won't be continuing it as I love ALL the characters, but I think it left off at a good place and I'm not left feeling frustrated on a cliffhanger or anything. I would love though if the Harry Potter world got a Star Wars treatment and we got a few shows based on a few different characters, if done well it could be really awesome.
OMG YES! I too said JK should have written them as books first! She's good at it! Get all your ideas out and then let someone skilled in scripts adapt it.
I’m really sad we won’t see the last few films. I absolutely loved the three films we got. One thing I didn’t much like was how political it got in the third film but other than that I loved them! I wante d more from the relationships and I wanted to see an epic battle and stuff!! It’s a real shame really but now everything was outlined like that you realise how unlikely it was we’d ever get to the end of the story 😩 great video by the way!
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Fantastic Beasts was something that was different but was within the same wizarding world Once the second film came out, even though I knew Johnny Depp was innocent, everybody HATED the films more because not long before were the things that J.K. said. The only thing I felt during that time was ashamed. Because I loved these films for the magic & the stories. So I stored away all my wizarding items. Shirts, wands, behind the scenes books.... everything. To this day I dont feel as though I can love a Hufflepuff hoodie without that feeling of shame. Time & time again , stories would appear due to things behind the scenes. & I think that's what got everybody. Feeling like we got stabbed in the heart because there was so much that was affecting the films. That people couldn't watch because they knew something was wrong & couldn't see that name or character without shaking their head. I really wanted to see where Newts story was going as well. I get why they cancelled the plans.....but I also feel like we're never going to see the battle between Dumbledore & Grindelvald,....we can only imagine from now on. 😔
@@PoolKid75 I don’t want it to happen either but considering how everything else is getting rebooted nowadays I wouldn’t be surprised if it happens especially since I’m sure the og cast wouldn’t want to work with Jk Rowling again
They honestly could have made a whole series solely about Newt and his fantastic beasts at this series ending make newt capture Grindelwold. Now start another series that solely focuses on his rise to power and tyrany and end it with the duel, his imprisonment and as an epilogue, have him die to Voldemort. That way it ties all three series together.
I'm in a bit of a mixed scene on this. I appreciate the work you do on these and that you - more than others I've seen - are able to give credit where it's due even when it conflicts with other popular opinions. I don't think Dumbledore's relationship was what sank the franchise, nor do I think it was well foreshadowed in the existing HP books. I am, however, in the camp that Fantastic Beasts was Newt's thing and he got sidelined in his own series to showcase Grindlewald and such. I would not have minded them continuing down a separate road... but, what about Newt? I go into Fantastic Beasts I want the Fantastic Beasts. How about showing us a young Newt just discovering his love for Magical creatures? I know that suitcase of his with its own pocket dimension didn't just apparate. Ahh the Johnny Depp story. I had almost forgotten that. It's far too easy to "believe" that a woman is being taken advantage of by a man, but the reverse can be true and it's harder to prove. My own Uncle was physically abused by his wife for many years - something we didn't know until they were going through a divorce. Thinking "Warner Bros. DId their research" - I love your optimism there. No, I think they do knee-jerk reactions. The reason Amber Herd and Ezra still have their jobs (IMHO) is because they are hiding behind their sex and sexuality as a shield - and WB doesn't want the bad press for firing them. Yes, they've gotten plenty of bad press for keeping them on and it may be long term more detrimental than firing or at LEAST suspending them pending a full investigation, but they have decided in their limited wisdom that the immediate bad press isn't so bad. Depp is not the only victim in #metoo
I believe that they're not over yet thay just took a break and we might see more because when it's something over then it's when the people appreciate it the most
I was really looking forward to seeing other wizarding schools / cultures!! It’s a huge let down the movies ended, I wish they could’ve worked together more harmoniously within their group and also with us to make these movies amazing. Still … the ones we got are something at least.
Even though there were plot holes and the movies got a bit boring, I really liked and enjoyed just seeing the wizarding world, and I personally was invested in knowing more about Nagini, life of Dumbledore, and many more things..
It's hard to make a series that is adult oriented, after such a successful children's series. I enjoyed the movies and screenplays. I like your positive input about the Secrets... I think Rowling should make a 3rd edition to the original Fantastic Beasts, with the creatures not in the 2nd edition. If they do a streaming HP include Dumbledore/Grindelwald's duel.
It's a shame but understandable that the Fantastic Beasts series had to end, but it is still sad we may never get to see the epic dual between Dumbledore and Grindelwald in 1945 play out. Obviously this series had it's faults when it came to the writing decisions and drama with the cast and JK Rowling but I still liked them. I loved Eddie Redmayne, Jude Law and Johnny Depp's performances as Newt Scamander, Albus Dumbledore and Gellert Grindelwald respectively, I was amazed with all the beasts that we got to see on screen especially Teddy the Niffler, Pickett the Bowtruckle and Frank the Thunderbird and I was shocked and intrigued when it was revealed that Nagini (Voldemort's snake) was once a human.
The movies and books will come back eventually. They need a cooling off period. The fantastic beasts and where to find them movies need to be books first then movies and we as a society need to speak only positive things. If you don’t have something good and nice to say then don’t say anything. I loved the books and films
Newt is my favorite Wizarding World character ❤ It's so sad that he got sidelined in his own stories 😢 We already know how the Dumbledore/Grindlewald story went - I wanted more Newt, beasts, and the NY gang!
Wonder how many fans hated Johnny depp for a while. Which is BS. I didn’t beleive that crap. Everyone always assumes the woman is telling the truth. Johnny Depp is almost as awesome as reeves. What happened if a wife of him accused him of that? Know one would believe it, just a totally genuine nice guy. Never thought Depp was guilty.
I've never seen any of those films, I always found it was a strange direction for the franchise to go. However, I greatly appreciate your sense of responsibility. You recognize the influence and charisma that you have, and instead of basking in it and moving others to your will, you are very careful and guarded with what you say and how you say it. That is a mark of true maturity. So many influencers use their platform to champion their cause and push their views as if it is truth, losing themselves in that euphoric cloud of attention. \
Ya well, I paid my ticket for the first three movies and I want my final two. The movie was the 9th biggest that year. It cost 200 million to make and took in 400 million. Don't tell me 200 million went for advertisement ... and besides from the one game over a billion take in ~ spend some of that on new content and my final 2 movies.
15:41 I wish more ppl would think for themselves. I never stopped loving the series. As far as what JK said y’all gonna have a long painful life worrying about other ppls opinions.
i can't believe they no longer making them. i was so looking forward to the next 2 though i was not 100% about the last one. then i rewatched and a few thing made more sense. i hope warner brothers change they minds and do the last 2.
It is a shame how Fantastic Beasts ended early and will never be able to live up to its full potential. I certainly enjoyed the ride. The first film is still one of my favs. On the plus side, the future of the Wizarding World is looking bright again. Hogwarts Legacy was absolutely fantastic and has been a smashing success. I look forward to all of the new Wizarding World games that will spawn from it!
I understand the films being cancelled, but I wish Rowling could still continue the series as a novel. I'm sure a lot of people still want to know what happened in the end.
I really liked the fantastic beasts, I loved Newt, Tina, Queenie and Jacob. I think there was just a lot of bad luck at the same time that made it not work out the way it should have
I really liked the first movie, since watching Newt doing Newt things with the creatures was just the best thing to me. I love stories about creature caretakers and Newt’s weird antics and obvious lack of some social skills with other people made it even better. Then I heard what the second movie was about and yeah I just pretended that the first movie was a singular film from then on. I don’t DESPISE the last two movies, but it did feel a little weird seeing a movie called FANTASTIC BEASTS be about Dumbledore and the first Wizarding War. I came here to vibe with Newt, not see a war with Grindlewald; if you wanted to do that story from the start, maybe change its name from Fantasic Beasts to like…Dumbledore and the Gay Psychopath 😂 😂, you get what I mean though. I haven’t seen CoG or SoD and don’t plan to, I am a little sad that it was canceled since I wanted to see this train wreck continue to the end, but I completely understand the lack of faith in the movies past SoD. Oh well 🤷♀️ Edit: Actually wait, I did see Crimes of Grindlewald with my parents, I just completely forgot the movie or my brain removed the memory and put it in cold storage. I think actually seeing CoG is what turned me off, not necessarily the word of mouth about it, although I was glad to see I wasn’t the only one who was like ‘wtf is this’. Lore-wise the movies are…interesting but otherwise I probably won’t watch any of them again except maybe the first movie and pretending it’s a one-off film
The one commonality I can see in the creation (and downfall) of The Cursed Child and the Fantastic Beasts franchise is that they were introduced as movies/ plays before the scripts were released to the public. What J.k Rowling should have done first was release actual books first rather than scripts and see how audiences received them and then okay the creation of movies much like Suzanne Collins did with her prequel The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. Personally; I enjoyed the first Fantastic Beasts film and I still think it was great as a stand alone but once it was turned into a series with the main focus on Dumbledore and Grindelwald it started losing its appeal for me, maybe because reintroducing characters I thought I knew was different than entirely new characters who were afterthoughts in the original and you could play with their stories more.
I was really hoping by the fifth film, we would have seen the greatest duel of all time between Dumbledore and Grindelwald. And Albus obtaining the Elder Wand in 1945.
I think J.K. Rowling finishing the Fantastic Beasts series by writing 2 books to replace the final 2 movies would be a great idea. As you said, its clear that Rowling's strengths lie with writing, not movie production. Finishing the series with books would let Rowling's strengths shine through and would bring closure to all of us who were hyped up for seeing the entire series.
I was really sad when they cancelled it. I think it had a lot of potential. I totaly agree with you. This sould have been books. I think it would have solved a lot of problems ( even if we can't solve all of them, like with the people who boycott jk). I personnaly didn't liked crimes of grindelwad but I really thought Secrets of Dumbledore would save the franchise. In my opinion, this movie was really interasting. We got to learn a lot about Dumbledore and Grindelwald's relationship, Credence, Ariana, etc... and I really thought the fans would like it as much as the first fantastic beasts movie. But apparently, no. Even with the issues with actors, I think this movie deserved more consideration and appreciation. I love your videos. Thank you for all the information you give us. ( btw I tried not to do gramatical mistakes in this comment but english is not my mother tongue)
Props to you Morgan for calling out the HP fandom on their BS, as well as yourself ! I mean come on, these films were great, and we're actually lucky they were made. I'm really, really, really bummed that we won't get to see the last two, not even have a proper end to the trilogy :(
Although I love the movies, I can sort of see why it started to fail. The first one was great because it was about Newt, a character that although we’ve heard of, we knew very little about. It was new and exciting and it was his story. Then the series just started to become about Dumbledore and Grindelwald, with other magical creatures thrown into the story so that it could still be considered Fantastic Beast. Not that there shouldn’t be connections between Newt and Dumbledore/Grindelwald, of course there could be. But don’t try to force and lump the two stories together.
Another way for doing the wizarding world stories was to make the "Dumbledore vs Grindelwald Saga" in novels and Newt's Journey around the world as movies.
I see the internet influencing myself as well with your videos. I always thought Goblet of Fire was a meh movie and thanks to your analysis, I realise why. I always liked Half-Blood Prince, and because of you, I realised it was because I love Romance movies and books, but the movie wasn't faithful to the novel. All these reasons caused me to view them similarly to you from a canon perspective. It is scary how the internet influences you without realising (as I only realised your influence on my thoughts now in this video when you were speaking of it).
They should have had one series where newt is off on some sort of adventure hunting down and finding the beasts... and a completely different series that involves Dumbledore. Having both plots in one story made the story dumb... the fact that they fired johnny depp but kept on fuck up Miller says something too.... they backed the wrong person and the wrong story
I enjoyed the movies. But I agree that Rowling should've written books that were later adapted. Warner Bros did jump the gun in the firing of Johnny Depp, then doubled down by not firing Amber Heard. Btw, Heard wasn't found guilty, but instead she was found liable, as it was a civil case, not a criminal case.
I don't get why she didn't just write out a novel set for these instead, obviously people were interested in Grindelwald. I didn't care about him or Dumbledore's past but personally would have liked a story on Voldemort during his time at and after Hogwarts. Who knows she might still write them since she is still invested in adding to it.
I love the first movie and really like the other two movies. However it is just unforgivable that you need the screenplay to understand important details in a movie. I’m not surprised it was cancelled.
Video idea. HP savage moments. I just thought of this after reading the part where harry said to draco "I think I can tell who the wrong sort are for myself, thanks"
When I saw the trailer for the second movie. I was excited that Johnny Depp was playing grindelwald I wanted to watch It just for him. And then he wasn't in the third movie so I have no desire to watch them
I felt that J.K. Rowling saying that there were only 2 genders was the most sane thing she could have said! The fact that the 3 main characters from Harry Potter turned on her was unforgivable. Those 3 owe their careers to Rowling!! Their lack of gratitude is the main reason I can't watch these movies anymore. Honestly where has free speech gone!?! I really liked your channel. I am a new subscriber, but now I get the same crap here? Before anyone decides to judge my comment, know that I have a gay son, grandson and a non-binary granddaughter. They agree with me on this topic! This world has gone literally insane!😐
What she said was not only sane, but she's openly defended lesbians who were getting crap for being...lesbians (not being attracted to biological males.) She said without sex, there is no recognition of same sex attraction. I hope more people realize the serious problems coming from the gender stuff right now.
I actually, for the first time, watched all 3 films (Blu-Ray so I could get the special features) just a few days ago. And I loved them all for different reasons. (Although I still think Mads should have been cast as Grindelwald in the first place, as much as I love Johnny) And now I'm really upset that we'll never find out how the story ends.
MAN do I have opinions on this. I love Harry Potter and the Wizarding World. I’ve enjoyed all the movies and material (cursed child not withstanding). And you made many great points about the flaws these movies had. What I think also drew people away from these movies was the lack of “kids go to the Wizarding school”. That’s what made the series so big back in the day. We were kids reading about kids going to hogwarts. It was awesome. And while a select group like me and you grew up and love seeing places like they show off in the fantastic beasts movies, the more general, wider audience just doesn’t care. It’s not relatable. I’d love to see a whole new take on hogwarts. Movies about the Marauders. Or brand new characters we’ve never seen. Maybe there’s just one kid who’s really obsessed with Quiditch and that’s the premise. Idk. Might help. Either way I hope they do SOMETHING with the IP.
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It’s a shame as I enjoy the Wizarding world and my sister said she wasn’t going to play Hogwarts Legacy because of Rowling’s statements. Me? I’m playing the game (when it comes out on PS4) because I want to see how things were in the 1800’s! Besides I don’t associate the art with the artist’s beliefs. (Though I’ll be amazed if someone asked if she actually took a peak at the Cursed Child before saying it should be canon especially with what she said about time turners and why she destroyed them)
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I’m sad that Fantastic Beast was cancelled because I really wanted to see the end of Fantastic Beasts.
Me too
We did see the end, Secrets of Dumbledore. This series didn't deserve a better ending, it got exactly what it deserved.
This series was trash as fuck. I only watched half of the first and didn’t need to see anymore.
I watched the first FB thinking I would see a Nick Fury type scene with Dumbledore at the end,but come the second movie and it was just a glorified filler tv episode with a 6 minutes scene of the most popular Harry Potter legacy character plus many plotholes and while the 3rd tries to fix many things it became mediocre while the movie needed to be at least good.
It hasn’t been cancelled. There just aren’t any future films planned yet, but difference
Two things I'm mainly bummed about with Fantastic Beasts being cancelled:
1. Not seeing Grindelwald and Dumbledore's epic duel
2. Newt and Tina not kissing once
I do hope we get to see Newt, Jacob, Tina, and Queenie again in the franchise and that this won't be the last we see of them.
😢 Newt & Tina
I still think it’s not fair that people should hate someone but I still love harry potter
Never listen to the internet lol
Film franchise is DEAD, thank you J.K.
Rowling.
Who cares about a kissing scene? Lol. I'm with you on the battle duel. I think everyone wanted to see that.
The reason it failed was because it didn't know what it wanted to be. If you want to make a prequel about Dumbledore and Grindelwald, make it about that and nothing else. If you want to make it about Newt and his Fantastic Beasts, make it about him and his beasts and nothing else, similar to what happened to The Hobbit Trilogy, which should not have been a trilogy.
This. So much this.
Exactly. I loved Newt and the gang and I enjoyed the first movie. But the Dumbledore and Grindelwald story absolutely didn't do it for me. And unpopular opinion: I was never a fan of casting Depp (completely unrelated to the abuse stuff btw). So the movies lost me with the second movie and thus I didn't bother to watch the third. I might have enjoyed the Grindelwald story if it didn't start off with the Phantastic beasts story but rather it being more separated.
Exactly! it also the bad writing and didn't care to follow the rules of the lore neither the timeline
Exactly, should've been four or five different films around books in the HP films.
Fantastic beasts
Quiddich through the ages
Hogwarts a history
Are a few examples, then why not some origin type things like dumbledor, Tom Riddle, the Mauraders, honestly it's not rocket science and would've made a ton of money if done right.
@@Eagle_Owl2 you are not alone,Deep just feels foreign from the Harry Potter Universe,more like a cartoon or something.
My only real problem with the fantastic beast movies is that the magic just seems even more inconsistent then the original books were. The magic in Harry Potter always felt like we were missing a bit of an explanation, but the magic in fantastic beasts movies especially secrets of Dumbledore left me feeling like we are missing a lot context to the magic on top of no explanation
Eddie Redmayne as Newt Scamander was one of the best thing that happened to the whole HP franchise! I find it amazing that a whole new storyline emerged out of a single character (Scamander) that nobody knew nothing about except that he'd written a book!
Eddie Redmayne was a better Newt than Dan Radcliffe was a Harry.
@@harryabelpotter9630 i feel like that bit of a strech but i see where ur coming from
TO: @@MasterMonix ...
RE: type cast
so, if you "see" where I am coming from you understand that ~
1) sometimes the part makes the actor & sometimes the actor creates a character. 4EX: Johnny Depp ~ he ~ he can create a character, even though he is not particularly great with dialogue vs. someone like Alan Rickman who was extraordinarily great with dialogue where he demands listening to with every syllable.
In this case, the part was so well written by JK that any not incompetent typecast child who looked the part could play the part of Harry Potter.
Dan, Mr. Radcliffe was typecast as a bright eyed little boy for which he was natural; he was indeed a bright eyed little boy with an emphasis on little. This started to show in the third film in addition to the fact that we could see that he trying to act and you could see it ~ you could see the techniques that he was using. BTW... he, Mr. Radcliffe himself tells us that this is true.
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2) For me and a "few" others that I've discussed the point, Daniel's "shortcomings" came to a head in the scene where Harry goes to the court yard to reveal to Cedric that the first task is about facing a dragon. As he approaches Cedric he is “stomping” (great acting technique~barf) through the colonnade and he bumps into Ron and boom ~ all suspension of belief is lost ~ Harry is not there ~ no longer a little boy ~ little adolescent Daniel Radcliffe is there showing the world that he was no longer little Harry Potter because Harry Potter is not suppose to be so little at this point. Harry Potter is suppose to be somewhere between 5'11” and 6'1”. Rupert Grint's intensity, Ron next to Dan showed just exactly what a “gitt” that Radcliffe is by comparison.
The Harry “stomps over” (great acting~barf) to talk to Cedric and Cedric stands up to his full height and reveals the real Dan, “little” Dan ~ you know, Radcliffe in the naked without a camera angle to help his acting. Instead of a teenager, he looked and acted like a little boy. The fact is that Daniel cannot emote things from his being that are not inside his being. Sadly Radcliffe's insides, like his outsides never grew and he was doomed to spend the rest of the films, acting, acting the part of Harry Potter instead of being Harry Potter.
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3) From that point forward, the movies were ruined for me and ruined for those “few” of whom I have made mention. :(
But … but, but, but … by then, we've read and RE-read the books several times. Hence, we all wanted to see what Hollywood could do; therefore we supported the movies in spite of the fact that Radcliffe stunk the movies up to the highest heaven. Emma Watson also suffers from the delusion that she is an actress when in fact her weaknesses and immaturity began to show in the same film on the stairs after the dance (but that's another story.) Only one of the “big three” maintained a consistent character and growth throughout the films ~ Rupert.
IOW... although there were quite a number of standout performances ~ compared to the material they had to work with, the films were not particularly well done ~ and the main culprit is Daniel Radcliffe, the producers, and the directors.
Nevertheless, the films were great because JK's writing and vision was so very very great that no matter who played the parts or who directed the movies ~ they were going to be a success.
Some things were great ~ the crew ~ the CGI, the props, the costumes and etc. They were half the movies.
Nevertheless, the only one that I can think of that made a huge contribution, a huge difference to the movies that wasn't already in the books by JK was ~ John Williams. Composer Maestro Williams, in my humble opinion is responsible for half of the success of the movies.
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Here's my parting words about Radcliffe.
Let's take a look at his most notable parts.
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~ “Equus” ~ he is “affectionate” with a horse.
When he asked the director for advice about what to do he was told ~ Go - - - - the horse … so he reached deep into the depths of his soul and did what the director directed.
~ “Kill Your Darlings” … once again, he looked like a little child next to DeHaan ~ who won an award for his performance.
Here, Radcliffe shows his depth of acting prowess by filming his famous “backdoor” scene.
~ “Imperium” ~ a RE-inactment of the scene with Cedric where this time as an FBI agent, he stands toe to toe with neo-Nazi and looks like the juvinille that he still is.
~ “Swiss Army Man” … an updated version of “Week-end at Bernie's”. As a half dead ~ dead person he plays his best part to date.
~ Radcliffe was in a little movie “Now You See Me 2” with Michael Caine. Radcliffe said that when he grows up he wants to be like Michael Caine. That's a joke … That's never going to happen … Here's what Caine said to Radcliffe in the movie.
WM: Dad, I promise you I will fix this.
AT: You can't. Stop calling me dad.
There were so many women,
I have no idea whose bastard you are.
Once again, Radcliffe looked and acted like what he really is ~ a celebrity. He's not an actor. He is a celebrity ~ not because of any personal talent, but because of the genius of JK ~ and nothing else.
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So …
You said, “I can see where you are coming from.”
So …
I've explained “a little” of where I am coming from.
I have not explained how great an actor Edward John David Redmayne really is ~ but he does have an Oscar to explain all that for him.
In other words...
Academy Award winner vs. a little child star celebrity.
Dan Radcliffe started to stop being Harry Potter during the third movie and died a sad death in the fourth.
But a lot of people were blinded by their love for the book Harry Potter and transferred that love to Radcliffe ~ and now, though he can't act, he is very popular and a very big celebrity who hasn't done much else except,
jockey a horse,
open the back door for a guy off the street,
play a half dead zombie, and
cast as a villain in Now You See Me 2 ~ because of his celebrity ~ in which film, as a villain, he had no where near the gravitas that James Cagney brought to the screne, who is also a little man at 5'5” but a giant in the category of talent. By comparison ~ Radcliffe is no Mickey Rooney nor is he any where near an Edward G. Robinson who was also 5'5”.
In my opinion...
Edward Redmayne not only did a better job than Radcliffe but Redmayne's Newt was deeper, more sensitive, more real, and better than any character that Johnny Depp ever created. Redmayne should have received another academy award.
BTW …
If you can't tell...
I hate hero worshiping.
But.... but, but, but
If there were a real hero here it would be JK who is responsible for everything in and about the Wizarding World ~ except the music ~ and like JK … Maestro Williams is still awesome ~ even at 90.
So...
Did you … could you … can you
Do you see where I am coming from?
& Does it still seem like a stretch ~ or well considered & totally legitimate ???
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peace.
True that was the best casting and awesome to watch. It’s too bad the story couldn’t keep up. The casting office did very well. The writers didn’t
@@harryabelpotter9630 was newt Scamander ur childhood? is he nostalgic? was the the first the OG? i am not saying from a point of acting i am saying from childhood love btw i watched the movies before i knew the books even existed btw Radcliffe was so famous that every movie worked in oh there's harry potter so yes i still think its a longshot and i see where ur coming from
This really sucks. Crimes of Grindelwald is actually my favorite of the three despite its flaws. It's the only one that felt like a Harry Potter movie and in terms of lore it was awesome to see that stuff play out. I don't even mind the long flashback. Not their fault that nobody has an attention span today. That was one of my favorite scenes. I hope the plan is to end the "Fantastic Beasts" branding, and that in a few years they come out with a standalone movie of Dumbledore vs Grindelwald.
the fact that grindelwald wasnt played by Depp was the biggest turnoff tbh
I’m surprised to see you here, love your vids.
@@common.sens3 He's a Potterhead.
Interesting...
I don't see why that would be necessary, especially when you realize that Secrets of Dumbledore only bombed because Johnny Depp wasn't in it. Newt Scamander's specific personality and skill set, and yes, the fantastic beasts, are still necessary for the story. You would have to completely rewrite Crimes of Grindelwald and Secrets of Dumbledore in order to remove those elements and still tell the same stories.
I don't think the complaints that the fantastic beasts and Newt are no longer the focus of the story and that they should be removed are valid.
I was hoping to see Newt and Tina’s relationship blossom like my heart is broken 😢
It has not been canceled. This channel is lying for clicks.
Yeah! Would’ve preferred more as Newt and the new characters were the best parts overall for me. No matter what, Eddie Redmayne’s performance as Newt was underrated solid that deserves more appreciation.
@@TheMoviePlanetSo who's the liar now bitch say sorry now
I wish the first movie had been an independent film apart from its later installments. The story of Dumbledore and Grindelwald should have been a different trilogy than Fantastic Beasts, focusing more on dumbledore. What a loss for all fans, including me. It had so much potential.
I agree with you👍🏻
Also if the first film was independent from the other two I think it could've led to a potential TV series focused on Newt writing his book with each episode dedicated to a certain beast.
Absolutely. Mixing Americans, American muggles and a bookworm was a terrible decision. Grindlewald story should be a passionate violent affair, rated 15 - the animals and the before mentioned characters just detracts from what could be one of the best plots.
Also, Johnny portrayed sacrifice, pain, love and anger. We didn’t get that with Mads, just a normal psychopathic villain.
@Christopher Johnson A TV or streaming series about Newt and magical creatures would be awesome.
Exactly . They should have introduced everyone in fantastic beast and where to find them. And next film should be focused on Dumbledore and grinderwald mostly. And the next one about the past life between them and the blood pact. 4th movie should be about the havocs grinderwald created and the hero squad trying to find a way to stop him.
5th movie them executing the plans in order and defeating him
Agreed.
I can not speak for everyone but for me the Cursed Child also played a role. After spending money for it which I considered in hindsight wasted I went in the series thinking: "Am I making the same mistake twice, falling for the next cash grab?" and reacted to canon mistakes like McGonagalls appearance a lot harsher than I normally would.
I agree with you that Fantastic Beasts should have been a book series first and a film franchise second. There was so much stuff that didn't add up or that wasn't explained properly and then all the stuff happening with the actors; it just wasn't cutting it and as much as I'd love to see all five movies, I am aware of the flaws and the problematic behaviour of three major people involved.
Personally, I still wish JK Rowling would've released the novels for this series first (or atleast simultaneously along with the films) and I think it would of had a lot more source material to go with just like the original Harry Potter series.
Given that she often stated that Dumbledore was her favourite character to write I'm honestly surprised she didn't decide to turn his backstory into novels first.
Provided she's careful with how it's written and avoid screwups, like how they screwed up with McGonagall
Bro, HUGE props to you for admitting that you fell in with everyone else and were brainwashed: That type of honesty and self-awareness is SEVERELY lacking in most places today, so I was stunned and pleasantly surprised to see your admission. I've seen myself get caught up in popular criticism at times and go against how I TRULY felt, so it's cool to see a creator of your stature admit the same thing. Well done, man!
Yeah, except that Secrets of Dumbledore actually did SUCK BALLS. I put aside the pre-dispositions of JK Rowling, WB and Ezra Miller, and evaluated the movie for what it was. The plot was moronic and puzzling to say the least. Watch the SuperCarlinBros review to get a full idea.
@@nahor88 Yeah fanboys can't admit when a movie just sucked. They have to use mental gymnastics to claim that they were brainwashed to hating it. This comment section has some cult-like delusions. Most Potter fans I know like some of the movies and dislike some of the movies. This channel just worships all the movies.
There’s lots of GOOD reasons to dislike these awful movies and boiling it down to superficial bandwagon effects doesnt give enough credit to the actual reasons why these movies suck.
I think the franchise can be saved just by hiring someone other than David Yates. Apart from Deathly Hallows Part 2, all his other 6 movies were poorly received. Why they are still trusting him to do Harry Potter movies is a mystery to me. Hogwarts Legacy proved that controversies don't matter, if a Harry Potter project is good, it's gonna be a success.
Chris columbis was the best director
Deathly hollows part 2 was my least fav Harry Potter it changed the vibe entirely. Fantastic beasts continues to kill the vibe
@@BadrMoshayaNo, that title would go to Alfanso Curon.
@@OwenOgletree what
@@BadrMoshaya You heard me.
Keeping Johnny Depp might have saved this franchise. Riding on the coattails of his win in court and the fandom that surrounded him, it might have propped up the box office performance. I hope one day we can see the conclusion of this story. I would it to be finished in book form but I don't think that is likely.
I think the most disappointing thing out of all , is that we won’t get to see the greatest duel of all time any time soon on screen
No. The most disappointing part is that the franchise stopped being about its name sake: the fantastic beasts 🤦🏾♂️
I think a trick they missed out on was why Grindelwald changed his face between the 2nd and 3rd film. I think it would have been an interesting plot point that we don't know what he actually looked like, what his true motive were, who he really is, until he's defeated by Dumbledore. You could then change the actor for that role in each film and so it wouldn't seem odd that he changed between the 2nd to the 3rd.
It could tie in with their love story too, how Dumbledore is trying to get back the person that he loved but realises that just isn't possible.
I've not written this very well but I hope you get the gist.
When I watched the 3rd movie I honestly thought Grindelwald changed his face to be more appealing to other wizards to follow him. I didn’t even know that Depp was replaced until I looked it up😂
I didn't watch the third movie, just seen a bunch of commentary videos but YES they should have definitely explained why he looked different. This is like one of the few movies universes where you can actually explain an actor change that fits with the lore and they just didn't do it which is honestly a stupid move. I can't believe they didn't.
It does indeed make me wonder if there’s any other magical people or practices that can make a person change their appearance at will aside from just Polyjuice Potion or Animagi.
Kinda like Dr Parnassus movie, I like the idea
I really resonate with your message about social media kind of having a cascading effect of either negative or positive views of a movie/show. Like if all you see/hear on social media about a movie/show is negative, even if you haven't seen it yet, that can affect how you view it when or if you do see it. I honestly wish people were a bit more restrained on being so overly hateful at least until they've actually seen it (or in case of a tv show, seen the entire series before passing judgement).
The main thing for me was the writing. The movies had the same problem that some super hero films have, in that they tried to cram too many storylines into one series. This can work in a book, but for me it felt like the series whole premise changed. This isn't to say I didn't want to see Dumbledore explored, but he almost needed his own movie. There could have been a duology or trilogy focused on Newt and the beasts, and then a movie or two focused on Dumbledore (in which Newt could have made a cameo). That way it would have been clear who the protagonist was (Newt or Dumbledore) and what the focus was supposed to be (the beasts or Grindelwald). Even Marvel makes a point of giving characters their own series, before mashing them together in a multi-protagonist team up.
Of course the controversies didn't help. While I think the writing was the main reason for the film's failure (as controversy alone hasn't stopped the success of Hogwarts Legacy), the controversy COULD have prevented the films from JUST squeaking by. Plenty of mediocre or disappointing films have still been finished, after all. No one calls the Transformers movies masterpieces, and Marvel has its misses, but the movies still do okay, if not great, because of fan support.
All in all, it was just a bad combination. The scripts were disappointing, and then there was anger from the fans on top of that. I still love the first film, because it was clear who and what it was about, and I loved Newt's character. However, even as a diehard Potterhead, I'll admit I haven't seen the third film yet. I was disappointed when I watched the second film (I've seen it twice now, and I definitely don't remember Lolly, and I've already forgotten why Leta Lestrange was important).
There's more I could say, but maybe I should just make my own video at this point. 😅
I am honestly so bummed by this! The movies aren't bad at all. I enjoyed watching them SO MUCH. The only reason I couldn't watch FB3 in the theatres was because of my exams. The duels, the creatures, the plot of this movie (as I later found out for myself) were REALLY good. Even the people of my Twitter feed, who hated the fact that Depp had been fired, actually seemed to love Mads' portrayal of Grindelwald. As for the mirror dimension scene, I know it was really confusing and not explained well, but there are so many things in the original Harry Potter movies that haven't been explained at all, and we needed to read the books to understand that stuff. I honestly feel that hating these movies had sort of become a trend on the internet. I don't understand why it is so hard to separate the art from the artist, especially when there are so many other people involved in it. This is so unfair to the cast and crew who had worked so genuinely hard on these movies. It's sad that we won't get to see the Epic Duel between Dumbledore and Grindelwald, and the fall of Grindelwald's tyranny. The last 2 movies would've been EPIC.😕
It has not been canceled. This channel is lying for clicks.
Very well said! :(
I dislike people of hating movies becuase of the writers and the company. I enjoy movies because of the plot
He is not lying. He would never do that
I am honestly disappointed that the fantastic beast series was cancelled just about halfway through its intended 5 movie story. I enjoyed all 3 of the movies, along Newt Scamander's character and role in the battle against Grindelwald, as well as many of the other main characters. I am even glad that the secrets of Dumbledore touched upon what happened between Albus, Aberforth, and Arianna, which the Harry Potter deathly hallow movies kind of glossed over. I also wish we got to see how Newt played a role in Grindelwald's final defeat, as well as the famous duel between Gellert Grindelwald and Albus Dumbledore that was considered the greatest duel in the history of the Wizarding World. At the very least, the fantastic beasts movies ended with the good guys beating the bad guys, and having a somewhat happy ending.
I'm glad you explained how Johnny was innocent. WB kinda shot themselves in the foot there. It's insane that they're keeping AH and Ezra on for Aquaman 2 but they'll fire Depp over empty allegations.
How was he innocent when A) he wasn’t the defendant in the US case and B) he was found at fault in the UK case?
They didn't keep them. Their movies are already filmed before the drama happened but they are not coming back for any more Flash or Aquaman movies.
@@piratesswoop725 completely different justice systems, and it’s much easier to win those types of cases in the UK, where everything including verdict falls on the subjective opinion of a judge. And if you don’ understand why the endless lies exposed in the US case spoke against nearly every allegation Heard levied against Depp, I’m not sure much will help you.
@@kanpoe7043 As opposed to the total unbiased and subjective opinion of a jury, the majority of whom have no legal background. Please lol. Especially with that case. A high profile case like that where you don’t sequester the jury is absurd.
@@piratesswoop725 lol wow, you might need this written in crayon. Yes a jury, being a group of people, unanimously agreeing on a verdict holds much more weight than a single individual. And legal expertise was not the least bit required to understand how AH lies were exposed. The trial aired on television and streamed across the internet, if you didn’t see what was clear as day, or understand why Heard was found at fault, you probably think OJ is innocent as well.
I actually really liked the 3rd one and it was becoming more exciting and the blood pact being broken would mean we would have been getting closer to the duel between the two. Hopefully warner bros can announce their plans and hope we can see a movie of the duel one day. I also think the reasoning for poor box office has more to do with controversy of people than the film itself.
No love, the film was boring asf, had terrible writing, weak characters and was only enjoyed by the most gullible. You got what you deserved.
Even more reasons why we need these as book series! But hope someone will pick up and carry on as seeing the beasts is amazing.
I really like a lot of the Characters from Fantastic Beasts. Especially Newt. He gives me a lot of Luna-Vibes and she's one of my favorite Characters from the Original Cast.
Due to the huge controversy of the Franchise, I'm not really suprised about the cancelation. It's still sad.
In the Pottermore lore, Luna marries Newt's grandson.
I too loved the character of Newt and Eddie in that role!! Such a breath of fresh air for a leading character. I identified so deeply with his connection to animals and difficultly with people.
I agree, Luna was one of my favorites over Harry… people lack empathy and how to be kind and don’t like characters that display those types of qualities. This is why I don’t like humanity, People suck so they don’t appreciate nor do they deserve good hearted people like Newt…🤷🏽♀️
I fell half in love with Newt at some point. He is so kind and gentle but I always was worried he would die at some point, I'm glade he will not.
This is so not fair, I was so glad we got a prequel series for Harry Potter and I had so much faith that it would pay off, to see it just get canceled like this and put in the dirt such a sad and terrible waste, I don't think I'll ever recover from this tragedy, I'll miss you Newt Scamander and your wonderful creatures, you deserved better💔😭
Don't look at it like this! You got 3 amazing movies with him, and noone can take that from you! The series ended on a high. Everything else can play out in your head, and I am convinced there is more to come in the future!
Good grief. Get a grip.
It's a movie series getting cancelled not 9/11. And two of the movies bombed for being allegedly terrible (I won't say they were terrible cause I haven't seen them). Sucks the way things turned out but it's hardly a tragedy
Like I said, I thought it was on hiatus until 2025
good lord, when you experience a real tragedy in life (you will) come back and read this comment
Critics: I'm not a homophobe
*proceeds to rage about how Dumbledore being gay is bad*
I just watched your latest video and heard that Fantastic Beast was cancelled and it broke my heart researching on it. Though I'm not shocked mainly because of the third film but I know that I want to see all of the things that they build up on those 3 films. For me, Warner really screwed up big time especially when they fired Johnny Depp which made the third film confusing especially for casual fans because it looks and feels just not the same. It's really sad, I just hope that JK makes a book series to continue everything. I think I need to watch the first film to reminisce that joy of the first time I watched it 😢
I couldn’t agree more about wanting to see more countries Wizarding communities. So much room for creativity
I agree with how Secrets of Dumbledore has a nice ending to these movies before official cancellation.
It has not been canceled. This channel is lying for clicks.
Stop saying that! Why are you here just to try to destroy this channel’s reputation? Shame on you @TheMoviePlanet
I think the biggest mistake was the announcement of 5 movies because thats way too big of a number to announce especially when the main screen writer has no experience in writing a movie. That’s a trap that many studios (Warner bros especially) had walked into far too many times and it only gives the fans false hope. Now let’s hope that they handle the Hogwarts legacy HBO series that’s apparently happening a lot better by just focusing on the subject at hand instead of trying to set up something big that may or may not happen
Never have I been so in love with a series' outfit/fashion. I already had an affinity for long coats, this series amplified that.
I didn't go see the newest one because of what they did to Johnny Dep.
I think I speak for everyone when I say that even though this kind of news was to be expected it’s still surprising to hear about it
It has not been canceled. This channel is lying for clicks.
He is not lying
Without Johnny Deep, it's downhill and the books series are now at the end, what a rip off!
I have a few issues with these films. But the one I’d like to mention is that the 3rd movie changed the storyline so much that the second movie didn’t even feel like the one that led up to it. I also wanted more newt and his journey with the magical creatures. Love how they were incorporated into the first movie. Kinda felt like a game lol
In Fantastic Beasts 4, I was expecting that when the movie starts, at least 10 years have passed since the last movie
I'm sad that Fantastic beasts were cancelled. Anybody can say anything, but I enjoyed it, especially the first one but crimes of grindelwald and secrets of dumbledore were definitely not bad too in my opinion.
There's still HOPE
LET'S RAISE A VOICE FOR FB4!
Fans have the power to resurrect the series
I basically think people wanted Wizard Steve Irwin and we got the rise of Wizard Hitler in super rushed format. I loved the beasts parts of the movies.
How is a 5 movie arc "rushed"?
Did people really like the beasts part???? I really couldn’t give a flying fuck abojt beasts. I wanted the prequels to focus only on Dumbledore and grindewald
@@MrFineWhiteWine it’s almost like the name of the movie was fantastic beasts, crazy concept right?
@@WAyuso34 that’s why I said I wanted to movies to focus on Dumbledore and grindewald………
@@MrFineWhiteWineThen that shouls have been different
I hate that it was cancelled . I enjoyed Fantastic Beast more than Harry Potter. It goes to show how toxic masculinity is celebrated more than an empathetic, authentic, kind man such as Newt. Hufflepuffs are the better men and women that the world needs over Griffindor, Slytherin and Ravenclaw! The world would be a better place if people would be more like Hufflepuffs like Newt. It’s very disappointing that it’s gone because I enjoyed it and respect Newt even as a fictional character and even more the man who plays the part. I fell immediately in love with him the first 5 minutes starting on the first movie. I wish they could finish the franchise for those who loved it and wanted a conclusion of his story! I seriously hate this! 😢- A Griffindor
To me that it failed once the og cast wasn’t happy with her, and they fired Johnny without seeing if he was guilty or innocent. Also besides the internet, I think there is a lot of unhappiness that was made with the many errors they made in the movies. Also with jk being as she is, and the controversies that wb was in with the actors; I felt like they should’ve made a few stances in better direction than they did.
They fired Johnny Depp because he’s a nightmare to work with and lost a lawsuit.
@@imaginarylivingbody7154 he won his suit against heard.
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Not the first one! He was found to be a court certified wife beater and that ruling still stands. He’s a piece of shit.
@@imaginarylivingbody7154 Exactly what lawsuit did he lose?
@@redshed2020
Him suing The Sun for defamation. He lost the lawsuit and was proven to be a wife beater on 12 occasions according to the civil standard in the UK. The best part is that he technically had the advantage in the UK court system, but lost anyway. He’s scum.
I would love it if Rowling released the rest of the series as books so we can still get the story
That would be awesome
Justice for Johnny ❤
The Dumbledore and Grindelwald relationship didn't bother me. Who cares of they love each other? The problem was, their relationship had nothing to do with the title and direction the first movie took. Outside of the first movie, "Fantastic Beasts" is a complete misnomer.
Hopefully the story does get finished as books or some other medium I can tell this was all headed towards an epic finale.
I thoroughly loved all of the movies honestly as much as the original Harry Potter series, while the original gives me nostalgia and cozy feelings, the Fantastic Beasts franchise allowed me to peek further into the world of Harry Potter and I loved that. I'm pretty sad that they won't be continuing it as I love ALL the characters, but I think it left off at a good place and I'm not left feeling frustrated on a cliffhanger or anything. I would love though if the Harry Potter world got a Star Wars treatment and we got a few shows based on a few different characters, if done well it could be really awesome.
OMG YES! I too said JK should have written them as books first! She's good at it! Get all your ideas out and then let someone skilled in scripts adapt it.
I’m really sad we won’t see the last few films. I absolutely loved the three films we got. One thing I didn’t much like was how political it got in the third film but other than that I loved them! I wante d more from the relationships and I wanted to see an epic battle and stuff!! It’s a real shame really but now everything was outlined like that you realise how unlikely it was we’d ever get to the end of the story 😩 great video by the way!
About Displate: I love the designs and the concept.
I got one for my birthday two years ago and although I installed it correctly, the plate and magnet fell off after about 8 months, meaning the magnet stopped sticking to the wall (or rather the protective sheet thing). The plate kept falling off every now and again and on one corner it's already dented so I had to drill holes and use nails.
Fantastic Beasts was something that was different but was within the same wizarding world
Once the second film came out, even though I knew Johnny Depp was innocent, everybody HATED the films more because not long before were the things that J.K. said.
The only thing I felt during that time was ashamed. Because I loved these films for the magic & the stories.
So I stored away all my wizarding items. Shirts, wands, behind the scenes books.... everything.
To this day I dont feel as though I can love a Hufflepuff hoodie without that feeling of shame.
Time & time again , stories would appear due to things behind the scenes. & I think that's what got everybody. Feeling like we got stabbed in the heart because there was so much that was affecting the films. That people couldn't watch because they knew something was wrong & couldn't see that name or character without shaking their head.
I really wanted to see where Newts story was going as well.
I get why they cancelled the plans.....but I also feel like we're never going to see the battle between Dumbledore & Grindelvald,....we can only imagine from now on. 😔
I was really looking forward to the next two films and it was very surprising that the series will end now
Wait… It’s cancelled?! I wanted to see Newt and Tina kiss 😢😭😭😭😭
Me too 😪
I feel like a lot of people don’t know that writing a novel and writing a screenplay are two very different styles of writing
Noo, I didn't know it was cancelled until now! 🥺 Such a shame, I was really looking forward to it.
I’d assume WB will just reboot Harry Potter sooner rather than later at this point
NO!!!! Don't even think that!!!
@@PoolKid75 I don’t want it to happen either but considering how everything else is getting rebooted nowadays I wouldn’t be surprised if it happens especially since I’m sure the og cast wouldn’t want to work with Jk Rowling again
I heard the new reboot will include:
- Kevin Hart as Harry Potter
- Ezra Miller as Ron Weasley
- Sam Smith as Hermione Granger
@@raizanskywalker6969 sounds better than the original already
Welp, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. I actually enjoyed these films 💔
There's still HOPE
LET'S RAISE A VOICE FOR FB4!
Fans have the power to resurrect the series
They honestly could have made a whole series solely about Newt and his fantastic beasts at this series ending make newt capture Grindelwold. Now start another series that solely focuses on his rise to power and tyrany and end it with the duel, his imprisonment and as an epilogue, have him die to Voldemort. That way it ties all three series together.
I'm in a bit of a mixed scene on this. I appreciate the work you do on these and that you - more than others I've seen - are able to give credit where it's due even when it conflicts with other popular opinions.
I don't think Dumbledore's relationship was what sank the franchise, nor do I think it was well foreshadowed in the existing HP books.
I am, however, in the camp that Fantastic Beasts was Newt's thing and he got sidelined in his own series to showcase Grindlewald and such. I would not have minded them continuing down a separate road... but, what about Newt? I go into Fantastic Beasts I want the Fantastic Beasts. How about showing us a young Newt just discovering his love for Magical creatures? I know that suitcase of his with its own pocket dimension didn't just apparate.
Ahh the Johnny Depp story. I had almost forgotten that. It's far too easy to "believe" that a woman is being taken advantage of by a man, but the reverse can be true and it's harder to prove. My own Uncle was physically abused by his wife for many years - something we didn't know until they were going through a divorce. Thinking "Warner Bros. DId their research" - I love your optimism there. No, I think they do knee-jerk reactions. The reason Amber Herd and Ezra still have their jobs (IMHO) is because they are hiding behind their sex and sexuality as a shield - and WB doesn't want the bad press for firing them. Yes, they've gotten plenty of bad press for keeping them on and it may be long term more detrimental than firing or at LEAST suspending them pending a full investigation, but they have decided in their limited wisdom that the immediate bad press isn't so bad. Depp is not the only victim in #metoo
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I believe that they're not over yet thay just took a break and we might see more because when it's something over then it's when the people appreciate it the most
I was really looking forward to seeing other wizarding schools / cultures!! It’s a huge let down the movies ended, I wish they could’ve worked together more harmoniously within their group and also with us to make these movies amazing. Still … the ones we got are something at least.
Even though there were plot holes and the movies got a bit boring, I really liked and enjoyed just seeing the wizarding world, and I personally was invested in knowing more about Nagini, life of Dumbledore, and many more things..
It's hard to make a series that is adult oriented, after such a successful children's series. I enjoyed the movies and screenplays. I like your positive input about the Secrets... I think Rowling should make a 3rd edition to the original Fantastic Beasts, with the creatures not in the 2nd edition. If they do a streaming HP include Dumbledore/Grindelwald's duel.
I really like these films, im upset we possibly wont see eddie playing newt or jude playing dumbledore again
Whats even more sad is that you actually believed amber heard😂 my god
It's a shame but understandable that the Fantastic Beasts series had to end, but it is still sad we may never get to see the epic dual between Dumbledore and Grindelwald in 1945 play out.
Obviously this series had it's faults when it came to the writing decisions and drama with the cast and JK Rowling but I still liked them.
I loved Eddie Redmayne, Jude Law and Johnny Depp's performances as Newt Scamander, Albus Dumbledore and Gellert Grindelwald respectively, I was amazed with all the beasts that we got to see on screen especially Teddy the Niffler, Pickett the Bowtruckle and Frank the Thunderbird and I was shocked and intrigued when it was revealed that Nagini (Voldemort's snake) was once a human.
The movies and books will come back eventually. They need a cooling off period. The fantastic beasts and where to find them movies need to be books first then movies and we as a society need to speak only positive things. If you don’t have something good and nice to say then don’t say anything. I loved the books and films
Newt is my favorite Wizarding World character ❤ It's so sad that he got sidelined in his own stories 😢 We already know how the Dumbledore/Grindlewald story went - I wanted more Newt, beasts, and the NY gang!
I got high hopes after Secrets of Dumbledore and I'm so sad rn :(
you could make a video about ranking Harry Potter fan theories, from the best to the most insane and far-fetched :)
Wonder how many fans hated Johnny depp for a while. Which is BS. I didn’t beleive that crap. Everyone always assumes the woman is telling the truth. Johnny Depp is almost as awesome as reeves. What happened if a wife of him accused him of that? Know one would believe it, just a totally genuine nice guy. Never thought Depp was guilty.
I've never seen any of those films, I always found it was a strange direction for the franchise to go. However, I greatly appreciate your sense of responsibility. You recognize the influence and charisma that you have, and instead of basking in it and moving others to your will, you are very careful and guarded with what you say and how you say it. That is a mark of true maturity.
So many influencers use their platform to champion their cause and push their views as if it is truth, losing themselves in that euphoric cloud of attention. \
Ya well, I paid my ticket for the first three movies and I want my final two. The movie was the 9th biggest that year. It cost 200 million to make and took in 400 million. Don't tell me 200 million went for advertisement ... and besides from the one game over a billion take in ~ spend some of that on new content and my final 2 movies.
15:41 I wish more ppl would think for themselves. I never stopped loving the series. As far as what JK said y’all gonna have a long painful life worrying about other ppls opinions.
I think the fans deserve closure even if it's in the form of books.
i can't believe they no longer making them. i was so looking forward to the next 2 though i was not 100% about the last one. then i rewatched and a few thing made more sense. i hope warner brothers change they minds and do the last 2.
It is a shame how Fantastic Beasts ended early and will never be able to live up to its full potential. I certainly enjoyed the ride. The first film is still one of my favs.
On the plus side, the future of the Wizarding World is looking bright again. Hogwarts Legacy was absolutely fantastic and has been a smashing success. I look forward to all of the new Wizarding World games that will spawn from it!
The series is called fantasic beasts and where to find them. I dont see how dumbledore vs grindlewald(?) Has anything to do with it.
I understand the films being cancelled, but I wish Rowling could still continue the series as a novel. I'm sure a lot of people still want to know what happened in the end.
Man…this is sad for me, because I loved all three
I really liked the fantastic beasts, I loved Newt, Tina, Queenie and Jacob. I think there was just a lot of bad luck at the same time that made it not work out the way it should have
Dumbledore was always gay. It never bothered me because unlike things now a days it wasn’t shoved in my face. It was just a side note
I really liked the first movie, since watching Newt doing Newt things with the creatures was just the best thing to me. I love stories about creature caretakers and Newt’s weird antics and obvious lack of some social skills with other people made it even better. Then I heard what the second movie was about and yeah I just pretended that the first movie was a singular film from then on. I don’t DESPISE the last two movies, but it did feel a little weird seeing a movie called FANTASTIC BEASTS be about Dumbledore and the first Wizarding War. I came here to vibe with Newt, not see a war with Grindlewald; if you wanted to do that story from the start, maybe change its name from Fantasic Beasts to like…Dumbledore and the Gay Psychopath 😂 😂, you get what I mean though. I haven’t seen CoG or SoD and don’t plan to, I am a little sad that it was canceled since I wanted to see this train wreck continue to the end, but I completely understand the lack of faith in the movies past SoD. Oh well 🤷♀️
Edit: Actually wait, I did see Crimes of Grindlewald with my parents, I just completely forgot the movie or my brain removed the memory and put it in cold storage. I think actually seeing CoG is what turned me off, not necessarily the word of mouth about it, although I was glad to see I wasn’t the only one who was like ‘wtf is this’. Lore-wise the movies are…interesting but otherwise I probably won’t watch any of them again except maybe the first movie and pretending it’s a one-off film
The one commonality I can see in the creation (and downfall) of The Cursed Child and the Fantastic Beasts franchise is that they were introduced as movies/ plays before the scripts were released to the public. What J.k Rowling should have done first was release actual books first rather than scripts and see how audiences received them and then okay the creation of movies much like Suzanne Collins did with her prequel The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. Personally; I enjoyed the first Fantastic Beasts film and I still think it was great as a stand alone but once it was turned into a series with the main focus on Dumbledore and Grindelwald it started losing its appeal for me, maybe because reintroducing characters I thought I knew was different than entirely new characters who were afterthoughts in the original and you could play with their stories more.
I was really hoping by the fifth film, we would have seen the greatest duel of all time between Dumbledore and Grindelwald. And Albus obtaining the Elder Wand in 1945.
I think J.K. Rowling finishing the Fantastic Beasts series by writing 2 books to replace the final 2 movies would be a great idea. As you said, its clear that Rowling's strengths lie with writing, not movie production. Finishing the series with books would let Rowling's strengths shine through and would bring closure to all of us who were hyped up for seeing the entire series.
I was really sad when they cancelled it. I think it had a lot of potential. I totaly agree with you. This sould have been books. I think it would have solved a lot of problems ( even if we can't solve all of them, like with the people who boycott jk). I personnaly didn't liked crimes of grindelwad but I really thought Secrets of Dumbledore would save the franchise. In my opinion, this movie was really interasting. We got to learn a lot about Dumbledore and Grindelwald's relationship, Credence, Ariana, etc... and I really thought the fans would like it as much as the first fantastic beasts movie. But apparently, no. Even with the issues with actors, I think this movie deserved more consideration and appreciation. I love your videos. Thank you for all the information you give us. ( btw I tried not to do gramatical mistakes in this comment but english is not my mother tongue)
Props to you Morgan for calling out the HP fandom on their BS, as well as yourself ! I mean come on, these films were great, and we're actually lucky they were made. I'm really, really, really bummed that we won't get to see the last two, not even have a proper end to the trilogy :(
Although I love the movies, I can sort of see why it started to fail. The first one was great because it was about Newt, a character that although we’ve heard of, we knew very little about. It was new and exciting and it was his story. Then the series just started to become about Dumbledore and Grindelwald, with other magical creatures thrown into the story so that it could still be considered Fantastic Beast.
Not that there shouldn’t be connections between Newt and Dumbledore/Grindelwald, of course there could be. But don’t try to force and lump the two stories together.
Another way for doing the wizarding world stories was to make the "Dumbledore vs Grindelwald Saga" in novels and Newt's Journey around the world as movies.
I see the internet influencing myself as well with your videos. I always thought Goblet of Fire was a meh movie and thanks to your analysis, I realise why. I always liked Half-Blood Prince, and because of you, I realised it was because I love Romance movies and books, but the movie wasn't faithful to the novel. All these reasons caused me to view them similarly to you from a canon perspective. It is scary how the internet influences you without realising (as I only realised your influence on my thoughts now in this video when you were speaking of it).
people did not ditch because Dumbledore was gay it was because we wanted to see newt and his adventures
They should have had one series where newt is off on some sort of adventure hunting down and finding the beasts... and a completely different series that involves Dumbledore. Having both plots in one story made the story dumb... the fact that they fired johnny depp but kept on fuck up Miller says something too.... they backed the wrong person and the wrong story
I enjoyed the movies. But I agree that Rowling should've written books that were later adapted. Warner Bros did jump the gun in the firing of Johnny Depp, then doubled down by not firing Amber Heard. Btw, Heard wasn't found guilty, but instead she was found liable, as it was a civil case, not a criminal case.
I don't get why she didn't just write out a novel set for these instead, obviously people were interested in Grindelwald. I didn't care about him or Dumbledore's past but personally would have liked a story on Voldemort during his time at and after Hogwarts. Who knows she might still write them since she is still invested in adding to it.
I love the first movie and really like the other two movies. However it is just unforgivable that you need the screenplay to understand important details in a movie. I’m not surprised it was cancelled.
Missed opportuni9ty to call this video "A fantastic idea and why it was cancelled"
Video idea. HP savage moments. I just thought of this after reading the part where harry said to draco "I think I can tell who the wrong sort are for myself, thanks"
When I saw the trailer for the second movie. I was excited that Johnny Depp was playing grindelwald I wanted to watch It just for him. And then he wasn't in the third movie so I have no desire to watch them
I felt that J.K. Rowling saying that there were only 2 genders was the most sane thing she could have said! The fact that the 3 main characters from Harry Potter turned on her was unforgivable. Those 3 owe their careers to Rowling!! Their lack of gratitude is the main reason I can't watch these movies anymore. Honestly where has free speech gone!?! I really liked your channel. I am a new subscriber, but now I get the same crap here? Before anyone decides to judge my comment, know that I have a gay son, grandson and a non-binary granddaughter. They agree with me on this topic! This world has gone literally insane!😐
What she said was not only sane, but she's openly defended lesbians who were getting crap for being...lesbians (not being attracted to biological males.) She said without sex, there is no recognition of same sex attraction. I hope more people realize the serious problems coming from the gender stuff right now.
I actually, for the first time, watched all 3 films (Blu-Ray so I could get the special features) just a few days ago. And I loved them all for different reasons. (Although I still think Mads should have been cast as Grindelwald in the first place, as much as I love Johnny) And now I'm really upset that we'll never find out how the story ends.
MAN do I have opinions on this.
I love Harry Potter and the Wizarding World. I’ve enjoyed all the movies and material (cursed child not withstanding). And you made many great points about the flaws these movies had.
What I think also drew people away from these movies was the lack of “kids go to the Wizarding school”. That’s what made the series so big back in the day. We were kids reading about kids going to hogwarts. It was awesome. And while a select group like me and you grew up and love seeing places like they show off in the fantastic beasts movies, the more general, wider audience just doesn’t care. It’s not relatable.
I’d love to see a whole new take on hogwarts. Movies about the Marauders. Or brand new characters we’ve never seen. Maybe there’s just one kid who’s really obsessed with Quiditch and that’s the premise. Idk. Might help. Either way I hope they do SOMETHING with the IP.