Octopus Energy, Gas Prices and The Grid with CEO, Greg Jackson | The PLUS Podcast

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @ShadowJamchan
    @ShadowJamchan 2 года назад +37

    If only every energy company had someone like Greg! I have been with Octopus for 5 years now and they are so focused on customers and innovation. Whilst they try things like Agile, Juiced, EV lease trials, Power Hour etc, everyone else's innovations seem limited to paperless billing.

  • @arpinchock
    @arpinchock 2 года назад +6

    I have known Greg for over 16 years.
    He is the most moral, ethical and funny person I have had the pleasure of doing business with.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @judebrown4103
    @judebrown4103 2 года назад +4

    Greg Jackson... A name to remember.
    So glad to hear he *is* talking with the people close to the powers-that-be....
    Will it finally happen? Will common sense prevail and we finally divest ourselves of the shackles of big business? Will we finally divest ourselves of the corruption which glues big business together with governments?
    What a fantastic prospect... and what kind of a world will we have if this doesn't happen?!
    So encouraging to hear that there are people out there who've managed to put themselves in a position to explain how it works to the right people up top and to the general public who can make their own changes if finances allow and how it is possible to change the embedded system.
    Greg Jackson has a plan, let's listen to it and get it done eh?!

  • @barkingupthetree
    @barkingupthetree 2 года назад +6

    If I could like this video more than once I would! Absolutely love listening to this, the knowledge, the numbers, the analogies……….and ALL of the rest! Keep up the amazing work!

  • @adamcole4808
    @adamcole4808 2 года назад +9

    Thanks Greg for taking the time to come onto the Podcast, hope to see you back soon!

  • @steverichmond7142
    @steverichmond7142 2 года назад +38

    I can see 20+ wind turbines from my lounge window in the Scottish Borders, but I am charged for the inefficient gas industry which I loathe. I have built houses which are airtight for 65% of the price of conventional houses. Everything in the UK is corrupt - including the electoral system.

    • @GrahamRead101
      @GrahamRead101 2 года назад

      I get the frustration, and I share it, but if you’ve lived anywhere else really the U.K. is far far better than almost everywhere in terms of “corruption” - but we really could move so much faster on renewables.

    • @steverichmond7142
      @steverichmond7142 2 года назад +2

      @@GrahamRead101 I have worked in Eastern Europe when Russia ran it, and worked in West Africa ten years ago. Believe me Ghana is now less corrupt than the UK.

    • @GrahamRead101
      @GrahamRead101 2 года назад

      @@steverichmond7142 not my experience, but we’ll just agree to disagree.

    • @judebrown4103
      @judebrown4103 2 года назад +1

      What?! Really! I had no idea you could build essentially a passive house for *less* than the conventional model. Is that only on an individual plot basis? How can it be that projects like the one in Wales that Robert highlighted a while back were, I think, a bit more expensive to build initially but of course financially beneficial to the occupants. I've been shouting for all the building projects in our area to only be granted permission if the plans are entirely sustainable. The first response is that they've put the odd panel on some roofs but anything else, gs heat pumps etc is far too expensive. If there's an argument to be made for it to be 65% cheaper I'd love to hear it. 👍 My astonishment is genuine, no sarcasm meant, and I truly would love to have the amunition to make those arguments to my local councils. 👍

    • @steverichmond7142
      @steverichmond7142 2 года назад +2

      @@judebrown4103 A one-off 2/3 bed bungalow of 72m2 built on screw piles, using SIPs, with airtight building technology and HRVS - finished with either vertical timber or spray render costs £28,500. Planning fees are extra. I have built 14 in the UK and over 100 in France. The type of roof and the location of the building defines the alternative nrg and its costs.

  • @benbrampton8196
    @benbrampton8196 2 года назад +3

    What an enlightening conversation. Music to my ears!!!

  • @rcurtisfl02hsv
    @rcurtisfl02hsv 2 года назад +5

    Brilliant episode. We could do with more fully charged episodes about green tech in the housing market; please!

  • @andyw6026
    @andyw6026 2 года назад +1

    Sad that I've only just found this video, but awe-struck and inspired by this man! Proud to be an Octopus customer

  • @vannicrider7953
    @vannicrider7953 2 года назад +3

    One of the world's good guys! Robert thanks to doing such a brilliant interview

  • @Jaw0lf
    @Jaw0lf 2 года назад +1

    I have done all the best I can to support the cause, 8kW of solar PV, Tesla Powerwall, ASHP, Kia E Niro EV and thankful to Octopus for the Tesla Energy Plan. Also now invested into Ripple Energy for Kirk Hill for my 120% but not covering ASHP as only had for 2 months! We have 5 large wind turbines around us and would love cheaper electricity from these. I am currently in process of replacing my old house insulation that has now stopped working and invloves removing it, to then replace it. I would love a grant to help pay for this, so stop supporting the gas supply that is an old dinosaur!
    We need more people like Greg and his enthusiasm.

  • @carlarrowsmith
    @carlarrowsmith 2 года назад +7

    Excellent interview. Greg Jackson is the UK's Elon Musk

  • @robertblood3722
    @robertblood3722 2 года назад +2

    We live in Kent England in a 3 bedroom semi and heat / cool our house using two Air to Air units. This has been our 2nd full year without using any gas for heating and have left the boiler and all the radiator’s in place as instructed. It’s been great for us and we don’t burn anything. We have had 12 sola panels on the roof facing south for close to 9 years, what we generate from the panels has always covered the cost of our gas and electricity bills plus an extra £1000 per year put into the bank. The Air to Air system cost us under £3000 they can be turned on or off or run very low and you don’t hear them ever, when it get hot they work just like a Air Con system. When we put the panels in the UK would pay us 28p a unit that we put back into the system, we are now up at 56p a unit. We also run two electric cars and charge them when ever we have to using a Zappi again zero cost. About to have a Eddie fitted to replace our iBoost which will manage our hot water heating better. We also have a Solax storage battery. Bob

  • @vacation_generation
    @vacation_generation 2 года назад +4

    A really brilliant interview. I usually avoid getting into the green debate mainly because of all the noise and hysteria (and i've already had enough with the covid debacle, woke-ism and cancel culture). But when the facts are put forward in a measured, sensible and factual manner (like this podcast), it's far more engaging and appealing to consider. Keep it up.

  • @ramblerandy2397
    @ramblerandy2397 2 года назад +10

    What a fabulous chat that was. It could have been double the length and been too short. Excellent. 👍

  • @nozzlepie
    @nozzlepie 2 года назад +9

    If Salisbury Cathedral can have solar panels, who can't? Should be required on new builds.

  • @ianwilson3674
    @ianwilson3674 Год назад

    Thanks Greg your really refreshing approach to energy has made me feel a lot better about the future please keep up the good work! 👍

  • @briannewman6216
    @briannewman6216 2 года назад +17

    The heat pumps that I use have a COP of about 4. Using hydrogen gas for low temperature heating is completely insane, particularly if you consider all of the costs of creating and then distributing the hydrogen.

    • @peterjones6640
      @peterjones6640 2 года назад

      It is particularly mad using hydrogen as an alternative to current gas boilers as burning hydrogen in air creates oxides of nitrogen which are a group of gases which cause global warming

    • @mentality-monster
      @mentality-monster 2 года назад

      It's insane on a macro level. Unfortunately humans don't make macro level decisions, governments do.
      On a micro level a heat pump costs a lot more to install. That's an upfront cost borne by the individual that can't be amortised without access to finance. Finance is hardest to find for the poorest in the country. They literally couldn't choose a heat pump even if they wanted to.
      All of the extra costs associated with hydrogen will be passed on to general consumers on their energy bills without them necessarily realising it. The £22b mentioned upgrading the gas network - we're paying for that whether we choose to do so on an individual level or not. It's forced on us and we just have to eat it.
      This makes very hard for heat pumps to gain traction without government backing. Them being cheaper over the lifetime of the product doesn't help someone who can't afford one right now.

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 2 года назад

      Absolutely!

  • @VerilogTutor
    @VerilogTutor 2 года назад +10

    Great conversation. I was horrified to hear that so much is being spent on upgrading the UK gas infrastructure. Use the funds to subsidise insulation!

    • @daemoncan2364
      @daemoncan2364 2 года назад

      The best energy dollar is the one you never spend.

    • @waynecartwright7276
      @waynecartwright7276 2 года назад

      UK gas network is old and leaky , costs might be recovered thanks to its 1-10% leakage depending on who's figures you believe

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 2 года назад

      What and let the gas network fall apart? Hardly sensible. Gas currently enables renewable generation - look at all those gas peaker plants

  • @BikeNutt1970
    @BikeNutt1970 Год назад

    I'm late to the party but, wow, what a podcast. Well done all involved. This should be taught in schools.

  • @Dunkelzeitgeist
    @Dunkelzeitgeist 2 года назад +14

    MiEnergy, Gridserve and Octupus are our messiah(s) now it seems, these companies are leading the way, and to think I applied to work for octopus only 2weeks ago

  • @pauldmack
    @pauldmack 2 года назад +3

    What a great podcast that held my attention through out! Learned a good few things from Greg there. Roll on another podcast with him! (and you Robert, of course)

  • @caterthun4853
    @caterthun4853 2 года назад +2

    One of the best talks. How can I get of the Shell energy I have been put on and join octopus. When Greg Jackson writes a book I will buy first copy

  • @frejaresund3770
    @frejaresund3770 Год назад

    I have been enjoyed, so thank you for delivering.

  • @melhiore
    @melhiore 2 года назад +2

    This one was very good, fascinating discussion. Good job guys, we need more of that...

  • @Alan_UK
    @Alan_UK 2 года назад +2

    I really enjoyed listening to Greg. He is so passionate that the industry should change and that there is a way to change if the major generators weren't so intransigent / had vested interests. I have 100% green (bio) gas which is green but like my 100% green electricity, it's expensive. Rather galling when I keep hearing green energy is now cheaper to produce than conventional, aka dirty, energy.
    I'm also interested in the Ripple energy model (where a consumer can buy a capital stake in a green energy scheme) but the amount you can invest is limited to how much you purchase - and my purchase is half what I use due to PV. (I cannot invest in more PV myself as there is no spare suitable room on the roof and I don't have a big garden like Robert).

  • @markwinter7644
    @markwinter7644 2 года назад

    Really enjoyed that. Learnt a lot. I have solar panels and so pleased I got them several years ago. Just had a payment from my energy supplier (yes they paid me!) £286 for this quarter. Plus used all the electric I could (washing machine / dishwasher etc whilst generating.
    Looking at ev’s and when my current lease comes up for renewal I will most definitely be going electric. Particularly liked Gregs comment about vehicle to grid. Never thought of the ev being a big battery to draw from during the more expensive times. Was considering a battery system to run alongside solar panels but the ev will do the same job! I need to look into this but I will certainly be checking out Octopus.

  • @daveforrester61
    @daveforrester61 2 года назад +4

    Someone needs to highlight and tackle the complete inequality of grid connection charges for suppliers around the UK. Why does it cost suppliers in Scotland £millions to connect to the grid whereas suppliers in the south of England get paid to do so?

    • @GrahamRead101
      @GrahamRead101 2 года назад +1

      Which is even more odd when you think it’s the same network operator in both places

  • @claudiotodaro9508
    @claudiotodaro9508 2 года назад +1

    Great video and very informative conversation. Thanks for sharing. Gas e petrol are obsolete technologies. The way to move away from gas is to informe and assist with the transition. My suggestion is to lend solar panels, from 2 to 4, and micro inverters to households and apartments. With 2 north facing solar panels and 1 grid tie inverter, on a balcony, we moved from £86 per month to £39 per month. Jam keen to provide more details for free to Octopus Energy, please, feel free to contact me.... Since I am one of their clients they can verify my claims. Thanks again

  • @TheBarneselstein
    @TheBarneselstein Год назад

    Greg is forward thinking, Inspiration to younger generations

  • @jonathantaylor1998
    @jonathantaylor1998 2 года назад

    What an absolutely fascinating conversation with a very enigmatic and vision-forward entrepreneur...
    Brilliant content 👍

  • @charlesmarsh9608
    @charlesmarsh9608 2 года назад +4

    It's so nice to see government being dragged kicking and screaming into the real world.

  • @jimbob3823
    @jimbob3823 2 года назад

    Awesome interview, please do more! Need a part 2 soon!

  • @kinross24
    @kinross24 2 года назад +2

    Robert, your Myenergi intro mentioned the Harvi twice instead of the later one being the Eddi

  • @ianemery2925
    @ianemery2925 2 года назад

    There is still the "Warmer Homes" insulation initiative - I had my home partly insulated a few months ago - "partly", because for some reason they refused to do the kitchen.

  • @MrAndrew941
    @MrAndrew941 2 года назад +1

    Brilliant podcast, how often do you get to listen to the CEO of the power company your with on the future of energy.

  • @KundaliniMaster
    @KundaliniMaster 2 года назад

    Remember learning about crop rotation at school? Why not put panels (on wheels) in the fallow fields? Then move them once a year to the next fallow field :)

  • @andrewrobinson9497
    @andrewrobinson9497 2 года назад +1

    its driving me mad that there are no electric buses in my home town in tamworth

  • @charlesashurst1816
    @charlesashurst1816 2 года назад

    A dynamic smart grid. The utility is an energy brokerage service, with a buy price and a sell price. Of course there would be a spread between buy and sell prices that would provide a cash flow for the utility. A household would have an automated programmable ap for deciding when to buy from the utility or sell to the utility or store excess energy. I’ve been advocating this for decades.

  • @johntisbury
    @johntisbury 2 года назад

    Thanks chaps, very interesting and informative.

  • @alexmclachlan3260
    @alexmclachlan3260 2 года назад +1

    are you aware the Spotify version of this seems to cut off at 3 minutes?

  • @jarthurs
    @jarthurs 2 года назад

    I work on a retail park which has an idle wind turbine (it was installed in 2010 and only turned for few years) put in as greenwash by the developer. Robert has been there as there is an Instavolt (Evesham Retail Park), I would happily have it in my back garden! I've got solar and want more!

  • @eclecticcyclist
    @eclecticcyclist 2 года назад +9

    The answer to getting solar on industrial buildings is purely political We need legistlation to make it a requirement that every new industrial building must have solar panels fitted unless it can be proven that there are valid reasons not to.

    • @judebrown4103
      @judebrown4103 2 года назад +1

      We also need legislation to only grant planning for 100% sustainable development. Thanks to Robert we know it is entirely possible to build housing completely free of gas and with self generating electricity. There's no excuse for building like we are at the moment, it's criminally negligent. Imagine if govt subsidised building that way instead of throwing good money after bad at ridiculous hydrogen projects! It sickens me honestly.

    • @eclecticcyclist
      @eclecticcyclist 2 года назад +1

      @@judebrown4103 Yes, I was responding to Robert's mention of people asking why all industrial buildings didn't have solar panels.

    • @judebrown4103
      @judebrown4103 2 года назад +1

      @@eclecticcyclist yes, sorry I got a bee in my bonnet and wanted to back up your argument with mine but didn't quite explain my thinking properly! 🤔👍😏

  • @appkazooio1501
    @appkazooio1501 2 года назад

    Our curry club night is Thursday because a local restaurant does 1/2 price meals on Thursdays

  • @bujin1977
    @bujin1977 2 года назад +4

    Where are we in the UK on V2G tech at the moment? I've been considering all sorts of options recently, but hadn't thought about that as a means of reducing my electricity costs. Theoretically, could I charge my car on the cheap Octopus Go rate overnight, then use the car battery to supply my usage in the morning and potentially in the evening too? My typical home usage is about 4kWh per day at the moment (but will rise when I move towards electric heating) so the battery is plenty big enough to cope with that *and* the commute to work on a daily basis.
    Another thought I had was to install solar panels and a battery and have the panels charge the battery during the day while I'm at work to cover my evening usage, and then if it's possible, have the cheap rate with my Octopus Go tariff to charge the home battery overnight for my usage in the morning before I go to work. That, of course, would be a very expensive installation cost, but for someone who works typical office hours, just getting SPs on their own seems like a big waste of money to me.

    • @davewycherley2148
      @davewycherley2148 2 года назад +1

      That is exactly what we do. Solar into the house battery, excess into the water tank, more excess into the EV. All done with the MyEnergi gear Robert mentions. Got everything crossed for V2H technology to become more available ....

  • @tonybliss577
    @tonybliss577 2 года назад

    Brilliant episode!

  • @clivepierce1816
    @clivepierce1816 2 года назад +1

    One of your best discussions yet, but it ought to be on your main channel. This is far more important than advertising overpriced EVs.
    On the absurdity of hydrogen for domestic heating, it’s even worse than your guest suggested for two reasons. We all know hydrogen is the lightest element. Well, because of this it has to be compressed before it is pushed down our network of gas pipes, and compression requires a whole lot of energy. Secondly, a recent peer reviewed study showed that emissions from blue hydrogen are in fact higher than if we simply burnt the methane instead. Fugitive emissions from methane extraction and transport are substantial and essentially unfixable.

  • @chapmanitltd
    @chapmanitltd 2 года назад +1

    What can we do to stop the UK government wasting money on hydrogen? Can you start a petition and Back it up with the research and data?

  • @icebox344
    @icebox344 2 года назад +4

    I know you should look at whole life costs, but I really couldn’t afford the extra installation cost of a heat pump. I would however, love to see an episode on current costs of retrofitting heat pumps

    • @icebox344
      @icebox344 2 года назад

      @You Tube I agree, if you know you’re staying in a property for the long term, definitely the way to do it

    • @icebox344
      @icebox344 2 года назад

      @You Tube in theory yes. In practice on my last property, no. Did sell quick though in a slow market. May risk again in the future on my next property

    • @johnmckay1423
      @johnmckay1423 2 года назад

      @@icebox344 I think part of the solution is government backed loans - possibly instead of grants. Even with the grant, the upfront cost is a barrier. Presumably the government would get most of it back in the end, so it could cost "the government" less in the end too.

  • @steverichmond7142
    @steverichmond7142 2 года назад +4

    I keep thinking it is me.... Hydrogen is a complete waste of time and money. The cheapest and most controllable heating is electric. I heat the air using fan heaters and my water is heated using instant water heaters.

  • @macinteractive
    @macinteractive 2 года назад +3

    The Audio podcast of this (as showing in Apple Podcasts) is only 2 minutes long. I have tried deleting and re-downloading.

    • @andrewnicholson9857
      @andrewnicholson9857 2 года назад

      This issue is also affecting the Spotify version. Bummer!!!!

    • @EverythingElectricShow
      @EverythingElectricShow  2 года назад +3

      Should be all sorted now 👍

    • @macinteractive
      @macinteractive 2 года назад

      @@EverythingElectricShow yes it’s in the feed. If like me people have listened to the two minute version they will need to go into the show and find the ‘played’ 1 hour version and mark it as ‘unplayed’. This depends on people’s Podcast app settings of course.

    • @Lewis_Standing
      @Lewis_Standing 2 года назад

      @@EverythingElectricShow still the same on Google podcasts as of 1035 am

    • @misterbassman162
      @misterbassman162 2 года назад

      @@EverythingElectricShow now showing as 10 minutes long in Google podcast

  • @joolsmorgan7032
    @joolsmorgan7032 2 года назад

    Thoroughly enjoyed the latest episode with the excellent Greg Jackson. I'm late to the party but have ordered an EV and Zappi charger. My knowledge is basic to say the least. One query, though, Greg dismissed hydrogen to heat homes partly because of the work required to check pipes, valves etc in everyone's home. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this also the case with Heat Source pump technology. I was told by an engineer I may have to renew piping, radiators et al to install Heat Source system.

    • @tonykelpie
      @tonykelpie 2 года назад +1

      We have heat pump that works via our existing pipes and radiators; just had them flushed before connecting. Installed early November and still have not needed to use gas boiler as backup. We also have UFH in a 75m square extension. 11 Kwatt Mitsubishi heat pump with COP of 3.4 heats whole 5 bedroom house; monthly DDR has not increased.

  • @robfee2065
    @robfee2065 2 года назад

    Great podcast, thank you

  • @mdeflyer
    @mdeflyer 2 года назад +1

    Great discussion.

  • @andrewrobinson9497
    @andrewrobinson9497 2 года назад +1

    why are they are not enough builders constructing eco homes

  • @bernardcharlesworth9860
    @bernardcharlesworth9860 2 года назад +1

    Still looking for the dead birds underneath my local wind turbine.have not seen one yet.

  • @markportch
    @markportch 2 года назад +1

    Be very interesting to hear his views on government turnaround on Fracking. In my view from what I've read and watched it's disaster waiting to happen.Forcing fluid into ground to fracture what is micro earthquake to exstrating liquid gas.Oh what about Infrared heating that was showed on this channel and company said it was better than heat pumps

  • @adamlytle2615
    @adamlytle2615 2 года назад +1

    FYI on both Spotify and Google podcasts, this episode gets cut off at just under 3 minutes

  • @Trevor_Austin
    @Trevor_Austin 2 года назад +1

    I’d like to have Octopus’s Go tariff. I can’t because I don’t have an electric car. Why not? I have a 10 kWh battery so I would have thought I was an ideal customer but apparently not.

  • @mapryan
    @mapryan 2 года назад

    Very inspiring discussion

  • @jonblacklock1052
    @jonblacklock1052 2 года назад

    Another great Ep. There’s a lot of change which frankly needs a kick in the backside to get going. I can’t wait to ditch gas & get a heat pump. In a couple of years my boiler will be nudging 10 years old. I’ll be watching the economics closely - I’m already certain a heat pump would save me a few hundred pounds a year but it’s the capital cost and of the hp & heat battery/ zero emission boiler.

  • @steveoconnell3228
    @steveoconnell3228 Год назад

    Thank goodness for Octopus, if only more companies operated in this way, if your not a customer yet then get yourselves changed over, you won’t regret it

  • @unixbash
    @unixbash 2 года назад

    33:30 this is a point that really infuriates me about the grid in Ireland. When I export solar, I get nothing in return. I'm exporting about 350kWh per month for €0.

  • @trickys77
    @trickys77 2 года назад +2

    I wish I could install a heat pump. Barrier for me was old house which is hard to insulate. My current boiler flow temp has to be higher than a heat pump can manage without upgrading all radiators. I also have a combi and I'm not aware of any heat pumps with built in electric boiler capabilities. I'm hopefull technology advances will accelerate in this space.

    • @johnmckay1423
      @johnmckay1423 2 года назад

      It's expensive to install, but it works technically and it's much cheaper than the oil fired heating we had previously.
      We have a Victorian solid walled house which leaks heat. The ASHP has a variable flow temperature - it could get up to 65°C if necessary, but this winter the highest I saw (on a day when it was before freezing for 24 hours was 42°C. Mostly it runs between 30°C and 35°C - so fairly efficiently.
      I presume you're talking about water heaters as you don't have space for a hot water tank. It does make it more difficult, but you can get electric heated taps (not dissimilar to an electric shower in concept).
      And yes, I did look at insulating first, but there wasn't a technically convincing solution and it would have cost twice what the ASHP system cost and we'd still be burning (slightly less) fossil fuel to heat the house.

  • @nedcollie9136
    @nedcollie9136 2 года назад

    Great program Robert .You should talk to Mike Cannon-Brookes in Australia.

  • @chrisallthingselectric
    @chrisallthingselectric 2 года назад

    Greg keep up the good work I don't know if your adviser is it to the government energy policy and strategy distance are
    Dependency on gas every roof in the country should have solar panels Renewables is the only way forward

  • @audigex
    @audigex 2 года назад

    A huge step we could take right now would be to allow people to fit batteries (without solar) without paying VAT. It's crazy that right now batteries are subject to VAT unless installed with solar.
    Solar is expensive, but we could do SO much more with the current grid simply by installing batteries

  • @markorrell-dobson2375
    @markorrell-dobson2375 2 года назад

    I’ve just had battery’s fitted and have ordered an ev with v2g.
    I’ve read that it will put energy back to the grid but I haven’t seen anything that says I could power my house or charge my batteries, is this correct.

  • @markyates5744
    @markyates5744 2 года назад +2

    Robert - I reckon the battery system payback period to be about 4-5 years! When at 54mins you say your friend said you might have to live to 120 or mid 90s - yours might be the extreme case where you had to spend an obscene 5 figure number to get 3 phase electricity to your house up a long farm-road right?
    If you buy a GridEnergy or the Alpha ESS battery system for about £5-7000. Then solar and battery can reduce your electricity bill by about 90%. While just solar reduces it by about 40-50%. Solar gives you daytime energy when it's sunny - but won't work well if it's cloudy when the oven comes on. Batteries solve that. 2. Batteries store electricity for night-time use. For 6 months of the year - unless I'm charging the car my daytime electricity use is £1300/year saving = 7-8 year payback!!! If you already have solar then it might be a 5 year payback to cover the battery cost. I got the Alpha ESS for £2000 + £1000 per extra 3kWh battery module. I now have 3 = £5000 total. But some might get away with 1 or 2.

    • @lynnfisher4396
      @lynnfisher4396 2 года назад

      Having solar, a Powerwall and an EV I agree with everything you say with the exception of one thing. Our DNO (Western Power) quoted £15k to change our single phase to three phase supply. The cable length - 25 metres in an urban estate,not a long farm track in the middle of nowhere.

    • @markyates5744
      @markyates5744 2 года назад

      @@lynnfisher4396 Do you need 3 phase? Or was getting solar something you added so you didn't need 3 phase? My "fuse board" isn't 3phase but I've got a 100amp breaker. At 230v that's circa 23kW I can pull before the fuse blows.

    • @lynnfisher4396
      @lynnfisher4396 2 года назад

      @@markyates5744 we had the original 3kw array, but wanted to add more solar and the Powerwall at the same time. We are on a single phase supply with a 100 amp mains fuse where it enters the property. The DNO said if we wanted to add any more solar we could- as long as the total of both arrays from the inverters was 3.6 kWh. We put up another 1.3 kw of array, binned our old but perfectly serviceable 3 kWh inverter for a 2.5 kWh Solis for the old 3 kw array and put a 1 kw inverter on the 1.3 array. We could have put a lot more on the garage roof but didn’t bother. However to do that the DNO wanted us to change our single phase to a three phase for the £15k. Needless to say we didn’t go ahead but it’s annoying to have space we cannot use. Hopefully the drive to expand solar might just loosen the DNO’s rules as we go forward but I’m not banking on that.

    • @markyates5744
      @markyates5744 2 года назад +1

      @@lynnfisher4396 It's strange. Most other places in the country you pay a £300 fee to get permission to go to 6kW max (something like a D99 form). It basically covers the cost of the DNO to check if the local transformer can take it - and contribute to any upgrade. And no-one in the cul-de-sac / area (1980s houses) is on 3 phase. So you're really unlucky not being allowed to go to 6kW :( Do remember some inverters will let you go to 50% above the rated inverter capacity. Then you can be getting 3.6kW from say 10am - 3pm on a sunny day + generating more when conditions aren't ideal.

    • @lynnfisher4396
      @lynnfisher4396 2 года назад

      @@markyates5744 We could have been unlucky as our installer had previously installed bigger systems in our area. With our application he got a different person in Western Power to the one he normally dealt with. I didn’t appreciate some people could get authority to go up to 6kw in an urban environment so it may be worth trying again. I know RUclipsr The EV Puzzle has single phase in rural Norfolk and his DNO has been fine with his massive arrays.
      Thank you for your comments, good food for thought.

  • @pokemonfreaky100
    @pokemonfreaky100 2 года назад

    Is it possible to add sections/chapters to the podcast? Thanks!

  • @MJF510
    @MJF510 2 года назад

    Great vid, damn I hope it’s not a new Zappi, I have only just ordered one.

  • @chargeheadsuk
    @chargeheadsuk 2 года назад

    Loved this 💚⚡🤟

  • @andrewmullen4003
    @andrewmullen4003 2 года назад

    I'm glad that Greg, a smart bloke, knows that the way forward is solar and wind to grid to EV and back, we don't need nuclear or fossil if everyone has an EV and charge when windy or sunny, the EV will buffer the difference. simples

  • @nicolascontentin4611
    @nicolascontentin4611 2 года назад

    Interesting discussion. We can conclude from this discussion that using Hydrogen to heat your house makes no economic sense. Question: What will happen with Hydrogen going forward? Will it be used to power heavy machinery such as HGV and large boat?

  • @zzpaul01
    @zzpaul01 2 года назад

    Supermarket car parks could be solar farms and shade for the cars.

  • @GrahamRead101
    @GrahamRead101 2 года назад +3

    What a great “chat”, from some one who really knows what they are talking about and has, via the company he runs, walked the talk.
    I do struggle with the heat pump thing - the costs to install via retrofit to my house are so high I can’t justify it against cost savings. If gas gets even more expensive maybe that will change

    • @jonblacklock1052
      @jonblacklock1052 2 года назад

      I’ve done the figures and basically they’ve tipped in favour of heat pump. The issue is the capital cost in a retrofit. It may not be too onerous but the only way you’ll know is with a heat loss survey, room by room calculations & then a quote /system design.

  • @jeppo1185
    @jeppo1185 2 года назад

    Please come to Australia Greg!

  • @robsmith1a
    @robsmith1a 2 года назад

    Since I have had solar at the end of March I haven't used any gas become I am generating enough to heat my water. I did sell my Zoe and buy an cheaper SLK though so I am not perfect. I only use 7 gallons of fuel a month though so the cost of fuel doesn't affect me much, would definitely convert it to electric if cheap enough but I think electric heating my next priority. Interesting chat and use octopus energy for my export tariff because their rates are currently the best.

  • @Rubblechops
    @Rubblechops 2 года назад

    Hi. The audio on this on your podcast disappears at about 4.35 so have come to RUclips instead.

  • @anthonyschofield6438
    @anthonyschofield6438 2 года назад

    I would like to know how much new wind and solar Thay are adding to the network this year ???

  • @antoniopalmero4063
    @antoniopalmero4063 2 года назад

    I just got tried to get a quote from octopus but they advised that with the current situation they probably couldn’t help me with better prices . I’m looking at putting in solar soon.

    • @DavidKnowles0
      @DavidKnowles0 2 года назад

      It seems no one is interested in taking on new customers at the minute.

    • @antoniopalmero4063
      @antoniopalmero4063 2 года назад

      @@philcotswold5940 ok great, I drive electric and was on the go electric EDF tariff, 8p evening & all weekend , 18p peak . With the recent price hikes it’s now 19p & 35p respectively. I’ll give octopus a call to see what they can do .

    • @philcotswold5940
      @philcotswold5940 2 года назад

      @@antoniopalmero4063 Antonio I agree just keep contacting them and hopefully you will get a quote. Their representatives do vary depending on who you speak to.

  • @Leopold5100
    @Leopold5100 2 года назад

    Robert; just to let you know that the "podcast" version of this session cuts out at about ten minutes

  • @titanlurch
    @titanlurch 2 года назад

    For the record .The oil crisis in the early 70s was artificial. I worked in Alberta Canada at the time .My job took me to the oil fields where we maintained and repaired jack pumps . Three quarters of the wells in Swan Hills oil fields were capped off.

  • @YS-cs8yq
    @YS-cs8yq 2 года назад

    We used to have public information films.
    Can't we have one to say don't use washing machines etc between 4pm and 7pm.
    I am sure the vast majority of the British people would follow the advice.

  • @NibblyPig
    @NibblyPig 2 года назад +3

    I wish someone would address the fact that I have a smart meter, and I can't get the data onto my computer. I can't get my consumption, onto my computer.
    It's utterly staggering. A lot of people mirror Robert's desire to control their usage, as he says, restricting it from 4-7pm, charging when it's cheap etc, and much of this can be easily automated with software that monitors your usage and the current prices. Octopus have done great, they have an API that lets your computer request the prices for the next day, you can get wholesale data, you can get your own usage for any historic date... but I can't get my computer to know how much power my house is currently using because the "smart" meter won't tell it.
    The best you can do is cobble together some complex bespoke bit of kit, to clamp onto the incoming cable and measure the readings, which is difficult and not completely accurate.
    There are so many people out there that want to design software, devices, kit and customise their homes to be smart (when solar is abundant, why not run the dishwasher/washing machine/AC unit/heating automatically?) but there's this ridiculous barrier to getting one simple piece of information, how much power your house is currently consuming, in a format that your computer can read.
    Even the smart box thing, the small toy with the LCD display that shows my power consumption doesn't work because I have solar, so it generally reads my consumption as 0.

    • @Alan_UK
      @Alan_UK 2 года назад

      I've built my own system to try to do this but struggling to get an electrician to wire it up. The DNO say it's my responsibility but electricians say they can't touch the master fuse to disconnect the mains (so what do they do if I wanted another consumer unit?). My smart meter (which I paid for) sends out S0 pulses, one for each watt purchased. I need a similar S0 meter on the consumption cable and one on the PV generation cable - I've already bought them. I already have a PV monitoring unit but it has no user API - I would need to replace with a commercial system say the manufacturer and pay a licence. There seems to be intransigence by the industry to help consumers help themselves.
      Like you, I would love to be able to make an informed real-time decision whether to use, buy or sell electricity. My system will use spare PV to heat the hot water, thus saving gas (I have 100% green (bio) gas which is green but like my 100% green electricity it expensive. Rather galling when I keep hearing green energy is now cheaper to produce.
      PS My system is built using an Arduino Nano to count the S0 pulses and a Raspberry Pi Zero for the analysis. Stats data is sent to another Rasp Pi 4 for storing and graphing.

    • @jonblacklock1052
      @jonblacklock1052 2 года назад +1

      Sorry just read the rest. Check out what @AgilePhil is working on. It’s precisely something to display near real time data. It is very early days though.

    • @jimchandler4206
      @jimchandler4206 2 года назад +1

      Check out Greenely, your smart meter designs belong to you!

    • @jimchandler4206
      @jimchandler4206 2 года назад

      Designs=readings!

  • @zzpaul01
    @zzpaul01 2 года назад

    If every house had 1 solar panel producing say 400w with a micro inverter mounted on a sunny wall and plugged into a wall socket this would make a huge difference to the way the UK produces power, not a solution but a part of it.

  • @grahamgreen5283
    @grahamgreen5283 2 года назад +1

    50mins - Solar Panels. The company I work for are putting solar panels on the roof of our factory in the very near future. They are putting up the maximum they can fit. We will use all of the power generated possible on site. The problem starts when we try to export excess, we cannot export any electricity as the local grid 'does not have the capacity to take it'. Crazy! So we will spend billions on upgrading the gas network for hydrogen but not the electricity grid to take local generation!

    • @lynnfisher4396
      @lynnfisher4396 2 года назад +1

      It’s the same for many domestic pv owners, we are restricted to a 3.5 kw inverter because we aren’t allowed by the DNO to export more than that. We have the space for more panels, we already have a battery to store the excess and never export at 3.5 kw, although with more panels we could in the summer. We live on an estate of 50 dwellings and only 5 currently have pv and the other 4 only have 3kw arrays. There is so much scope for individuals to produce more domestic power but it’s being restricted by the DNO because they don’t want the local system overloading when “we all” are producing excess solar. They are the same ones that assure the public that the grid can cope with the increased demand of heat pumps, EV charging etc. They are also the same DNO would would have let us export more if we fitted a three phase mains supply, fitted by them for the princely sum of £15k, that’s for 25 metres of cable, not a mile.

  • @John-FourteenSix
    @John-FourteenSix 2 года назад

    19:48 Heat Pumps are better than gas boilers! Amen to that.

  • @martinhammett8121
    @martinhammett8121 Год назад

    Why is it that all new houses are not built with solar energy & battery storage as standard !

  • @TheSolarAge
    @TheSolarAge 2 года назад

    Why did the Agile negative rates stopped?

  • @richardgoldsmith7278
    @richardgoldsmith7278 2 года назад

    I do believe we should be prepared to criticise individuals who don’t take the long term and sustainable decisions. Call them out, or the culture will not change!

  • @michalrybinski3233
    @michalrybinski3233 2 года назад +2

    Eddi is sad that you've called it Harvi :(

  • @tomblewomble3369
    @tomblewomble3369 2 года назад

    Should have called the company Oedipus.
    I'll get my coat.

  • @eliotmansfield
    @eliotmansfield 2 года назад

    So the green wires comment already exists - it’s called agile. Of course everyone bailed (including bob by the sounds of it) when it got expensive. Which proves people wont pay more for electricity when it’s not windy or sunny. If it wasn’t capped at 35p it would be hitting 50p or far more - nobody will want to pay that - but it’s the reality of what’s required.

  • @jasonlegg3191
    @jasonlegg3191 2 года назад

    Why is this just a 3 minute something on Apple PodCast?

  • @zapfanzapfan
    @zapfanzapfan 2 года назад

    Using hydrogen for heating homes is bonkers but we need hydrogen for the steel industry (replace coke) and for making fertilizer and the waste heat from that process can be used to heat homes connected to district heating. Do you have district heating in the UK?

  • @chrisgilpin194
    @chrisgilpin194 2 года назад

    Tried to listen as a podcast (not on RUclips) cut off after 3 minutes.

  • @ronaldusher39
    @ronaldusher39 2 года назад

    Enjoyed this conversation! And I can't help thinking how stupid hydrogen is if they are spending that much to renew gas pipes to take it! My electric 1kw fire is more efficient 1 kW in 1 kW out?? I have never thought about it like that!

  • @CentaurAcademy
    @CentaurAcademy 2 года назад +1

    I've been reading comments in a local forum about solar panel costs, and house batteries. Some people were put off by the battery cost. Can you do a techy article about using your car as an energy store when you are full of solar? Many thanks

  • @joshuasmith7369
    @joshuasmith7369 2 года назад

    When I hear green hydrogen, I think of Orkney.