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- I am very grateful for all the wonderful donations viewers send in to the Digital Basement. Sometimes, I get one that really takes me off guard. This was such a case due to the fact this computer really holds a special place in my heart.
In this video, I unbox the machine, give it a once over, do some some exterior cleaning, power supply maintenance and then see if it's working. Let's get right to it!
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Hey Adrian, great[est] video for me, being your brother and having shared that very APPLE ][+ during those early days of computing! I must say I was touched watching this video! It really brought me back, just seeing you pop open that Apple ][ top and pulling cards! We both started our Information Technology careers because of the use of these early computers and that proves one thing loud and clear: our parents knew, that putting computers in the hands of young kids was a positive thing for our future. Remember just how expensive (relatively speaking) computers were at the start in the 70’s and early 80’s and for many families it was a stretch. Thank you Dad and mom as I know you will read this comment, it was the right thing to do for us back then, look at us now! I love that Adrian is now the digital custodian of these amazing first steps of information technology.
Also Adrian, about the yellow stains, I know what that is. It’s a smoker that was using that computer for years. In my PC hardware days we saw a lot of this type of discolouration, it’s just a smoker’s machine. Use a heavier solvent if you want to go back to the original colour.
Thanks again for this video, Adrian, it was awesome to watch!
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I was too very lucky to have a Dad that worked at 'a large telephone research facility'. They had a group of guys that would hack and build their own Apple ]['s from scratch, and so my Dad got involved with them and we 'built' ours. I still have it. I'll mention more about it in a separate comment below, but just wanted to say yes, I too started my career in this way as well. I was programming 6502 assembler in High School, which I was able to then breeze through the Assembly Language class in college. I ended up getting a BS and MS in Computer Science, and have been working as a Software Developer ever since. It's also a reason why I work with kids and STEM projects in my local schools and community. When their faces light up because their program or their little robot starts working, it transports me back to the fun times I had when I was their age.
One other thing you are right on as well. It was not cheap back then. I'm not sure what we spent on the A2+, but when I went to grad school, my dad forked out 3000 dollars for a fully-tricked out Gateway PC at the time. Because of that, when my Dad needs a new machine or any kind of technical support, it is provided by me, no cost. He always asks me how much the stuff costs, and I tell him don't worry about the cost. That is my thanks to him.
Sounds like you had a great upbringing and some awesome parents. I bet they are proud.
Smoking was one source of the yellowing, another I’ve seen was sunlight exposure if the computer was sitting for years on a desk adjacent to a window. Another thing I forgot to mention in my other comment was that the primary reason for not putting the monitor on top of the drives was because some monitors had enough RFI to cause I/O errors or not allow the drives to boot or read at all.
@@macfixer01 I don't see how EMI is going to destroy a floppy though the metal casing of the drive. Unless its not properly grounded.
I never said having the monitor on top of the drives destroyed any diskettes. It just caused temporary read errors (I/O errors) sometimes, which would go away if you moved the monitor further away or off to the side. Customers having problems didn’t want to hear that since Apple always showed the monitor on top of the drives in their ads, although they eventually did start recommending against it. The drives originally had no shielding and had no ground connection to the cover, or to the metal lower chassis of the drive either. Some brands and models of monitors didn’t cause any problem, others did. Also remember many folks were using small TV’s for a display on the Apple ][, if they didn’t have an 80 column card and were likely playing games mostly anyway. Actually the 5.25 inch floppy’s were notoriously hard to destroy though except through physical damage or exposure to an actual degaussing coil or bulk tape eraser.
Adrian almost crying was oddly emotional and touching.
Dr Dr the guy loves his job/hobby
The fact that Adrian shows his feelings so openly is one of the things I love most about this channel.
In this awful year, it's awesome to see anyone that happy, let alone someone as awesome as Adrian!
Just further proof of how genuine and honest Adrian is. This man's character is what finds me always checking my subscriptions list for a dot next to "Adrian's Digital Basement", in the hopes that Adrian has posted another new video for us. This guy is the real deal and at the risk of sounding like a broken record, is what keeps me coming back for more. Thank You Adrian! Fred
@@electronicengineer Absolutely, that's why I watch Adrian's digital basement. What a genuine, honest and modest man.
Compare that to the 8bit guy: "Nah, don't send me all this crap, I don't have enough space, I don't have enough time. Why should I say thank you to people who spend a lot of time and effort to send me stuff for free? Too bad that I have to make these damn RUclips videos and deal with these annoying watchers. It would be so much better if RUclips just gave me the money without all the nasty work. And oh, I got a super rare computer. Let's just randomly put in paperclips at any of the connectors. And while I am at it, let's dremel into the case. Whatever, I don't know what I am doing, anyway."
I think Stewart deserves a big round of applause; not only was his packaging technique one of the best I've ever seen, but the tone of his letter was very humorous.
However, I'd also like to mention how awesome I think Adrian's father was, without whose encouragement of young Adrian we might not have had this exceptionally great youtube channel.
Stewart is the hero of this video, no doubt. I'm floored at his attention to detail.
Stewart is the hero we need right now.
If there’s an yearly packaging award!.steward has wone
That huge box must've cost a fortune to send across the US from east to west.. He was extremely generous.
Your father did a great job supporting your interests and the development of your passions.
This was Steve Wozniak's Apple. Open and serviceable and expansible
Woz was a hacker, a bodger and a tinkerer. His machines reflected that mentality.
@@morgansinclair6318 is, not was. He's still with us, and he still tinkers!
@@Calphool222 Good to know that Woz isn't was.
Reading between the lines: Apple could make the iPhone “open and serviceable and expansible”. It’d fit snugly in a VCR tape box and weigh way more than a VCR tape did. I hope you got big sturdy pockets to fit one in, and to pay for all that extra material and shipping and processing costs - big things aren’t cheaper at all! Small or open. Pick one. All the connectors and shields so that your fingers won’t shear off components small enough that they get hard to see without glasses and so on: it takes space and weight. I am totally sure that Apple could make such a phone and nobody would buy it. I am all for open and expansible stuff. I want my phone to be small, light and practical. You can attach all your nerdy peripherals to it via lightning to USB cable and an Ethernet adapter. Your own peripheral can provide an Ethernet USB function and be totally compatible with an iPhone. Your own app can talk to it no problem. So as far as expansion goes, it already allows you to add your own peripherals - whatever you wish for. And to easily code for them. What else would one want?
Kuba Ober Well we talk here about computers and not phones. The computers that apple built today are not really fixable at all and apple does everything they can that they are not fixable. I recommend you the youtube channel of louis rossmann, he repairs macbooks on a component level and has much to say about this topic :)
In elementary school there was one computer in the entire school, an Apple II Plus, owned by one of the second grade teachers. I was lucky enough to get her as a teacher, spawning a lifelong passion for computers and technology.
That is amazing -- teachers are so underappreciated and underpaid. I have several teachers from my youth I will never forget -- even 30+ years later, they had a huge impact on my life that is still with me.
@@adriansdigitalbasement My middle school teacher wrote this: www.thequartermile.com - Mr. Barnum. We used to play his program in class, having a score board and contests.
Did you ever play with Fire Organ? He had it and would play it for us, in class. He never would let us "borrow" a copy.
Gotta be said, Adrian is hands down the nicest guy on RUclips, great attitude, personality, and seriously knows his shit... And won't use a dremel to open a rare computer.. 😉
For sure, he is a very humble guy, unlike some others....
Admit it, you were secretly hoping it wouldn't work just so you'd get to spend more time working on it...
Heh it is half the fun!
I love to look out for the "for parts/repair" listings on eBay. Often it's something very simple, like blown RIFA or tantalums. In the case of the Tandy 1100FD I picked up earlier in the year, it needed a power block (just had to look through the thrift stores to fine one that would match specs), and a new belt for the floppy drive. The VIC-20 I picked up just had a loose fuse holder on the 9VAC rail which was causing intermittent operation of the tape deck. If you've got the patience and the knowhow to repair them, it's usually cheaper this way than buying a known working unit. I've got an XT clone on the way that, from the pictures and description, needs some tantalums replaced, and then a good cleaning. I'll have to wait till it arrives to find out if the rest of it works, but it's got an MFM hard drive, so fingers crossed the drive was parked!
I have never seen Adrian so emotional on his channel. It was touching. Even I am grateful for this gift he received.
Hi Adrian, much respect to your dad. My story is similar. Back in 1981 I begged my dad for a ZX81 for Christmas. My friends were getting Vic20s and other higher end computers but I knew what we could afford. Christmas day came and a ZX81 is exactly what I got. From there I progressed through Acorn BBC Electrons and BBC's and then into PC's When I left school I started by career in I.T. and I am still doing that today. All through the support of my dad and the leap he took on buying me that ZX81. I also spend as much time using the old 8Bit computers, I buy then whenever I can and have my loft space pretty full with ongoing projects.
I love your enthusiasm for that computer and the story of your own personal background with it. Those early computers are always very dear to us as we continue our careers.
As for the yellowing, I found the Apple IIs can be restored to their natural color very easily with some gentle retrobrighting (some combination of hydrogen peroxide and sun--or you could even just try sun exposure and see if that helps since it doesn't seem super yellow). Looking forward to the repair and restoration video!
Thanks Noel! What is interesting -- is this machine is definitely painted. Apple switched from painting their computers to just having the plastic be the color they wanted some time while making the IIe... and I don't see how retrobrite could possibly work on a painted machine.
My first computer was a VIC20 also. Loved that thing and programmed for hours and hours. In college I scored an Apple 2E, and also have such a great time with my apple cat modem and programming and running a BBS from my room in our rented house filled with electrical engineers and software guys. Such good times!! Lots of programming with the assembler Merlin?? spent a lot of time pouring thru the Rom of that computer. Steve Wozniac was a genius programmer and I modeled my coding style after him.
Ha! Small world. I also grew up in Montreal and my jaw hit the floor when you mentioned that you went to the same elementary school in NDG, Willingdon. I was there from about 1981 to 1987, when I went on to Royal West. I can confirm that we used those Apple II computers in those years in the elementary school's computer lab. I have some fond memories of those machines, my only real exposure to Apple computers as I've always favored PC compatibles. We made our own move for good to the States in 1990.
I'd dare you to take that power supply into the Genius bar - just to put them in their place with a PSU that's most likely older than they are - I'd love to see their faces when they try to think what it is!
none would have the slightest idea what it was, but they would try to throw it in the trash...
That would be a great hidden camera video.
Watching you restore this Apple II+ while This Does Not Compute simultaneously restores a trashpicked Apple IIe has warmed my heart. These machines were fulcrums of our childhoods. These are the best videos. Thanks for keeping them alive and sharing your experiences.
Stewart, thank you for providing us viewers, for an awesome computer, and the best packaging / unboxing ever on Adrian's channel!
Or on any channel for that matter.
I got teared up reading the note. This was a great episode. Stuart you are a great dude. Adrian I'm glad I found your channel when I did. I was bored with a lot of the other "retro" guys on here. You're legit, super knowledgeable and fun to watch.
+ 1 amen !
Adrian, yours is one of the best if not THE best hands-on vintage computing channels on RUclips (honestly you should have 100x the subs you do, and I drive everyone I know with even a passing interest in old tech to your channel), so trust me when I say that I do not lightly "insist" you do anything but...I insist you play some Wizardry! (Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord will suffice), Lode Runner, Choplifter and Temple of Aphsai on it ;) Those were my favorite games to play in Computer Class back in 7th grade (which would've been...84ish or so?), although I did like writing programs in Logo.
Definitely up there for sure. Although he sticks to overviews mostly, they are quite detailed enough to give a really good impression of the machines. Even for those of us who really get into the nuts and bolts of these things.
For me it was Load Runner and Ultima II/III,IV. I didn't play Choplifter much, I thought it was too hard, and I wasn't a real big joystick user. Wizardry was mysterious for me, as it was written in Pascal. I didn't get into Pascal until high school and I recall it required the 80 col card. In the day some games were purchased while others were copied. Wizardry, I think, had copy protection. I Logo, wasn't much a part of the curriculum, but I did recall maybe a unit which included it, a day or two worth of instruction, that was it, in Summer school. Otherwise I had BASIC, Advanced BASIC, and Assembly for classes.
Tiltowait! Take that Werdna and Vampire Lord!
For sure, out of all of them I enjoy Adrian the most. I feel he is a super humble person, unlike some others.
Fun Fact: It's called "Applesoft BASIC" because it was made by Microsoft. Integer BASIC was made by Woz, but was called Integer basic because it didn't support floating point.
Fun Fact Part 2: Steve Wozniak also included in the Integer Basic ROMs the Sweet-16, a virtual 16-bit machine. Another example of how wonderfully creative Woz could be.
Fun Fact Part 3: Floppy disk controllers were too expensive back when the Apple ][ came out. So Woz designed a state machine based controller and bought just the floppy drive mechanicals, allowing Apple to come out with the Disk ][ drive.
Hard to imagine. You have to program the float/carrier system yourself?
Fun Fact: Apple licensing Microsoft BASIC saved Microsoft from bankruptcy after their disaster of a licensing deal with Jack Tramiel at Commodore. If only had Apple gone instead with the company that wrote Atari BASIC shortly thereafter...
@@TheJeremyHolloway I think it was scened. They all became aware of the fact that locking in the user in an artificially limited environment with no way out was the way to go. The DOS command line guaranteed a crippled computer Next step was protected mode witn an API. Now, everybody's running apps instead of programs, fully abstracted from the real computer underneath, only to spam and track you while all authorative control is hijacked.
@@bobblum5973 He also had the computer's 6502 processor do all the work that a disk controller ASIC would have done--yet another simple hardware + software solution to save on cost. That's good--Woz's work is elegant in this way, and highly effective (within limits in some cases). Then Apple jacked the price up as much as they could get away with anyway. ;)
By the way, while Woz was undeniably creative and even a certifiable genius at certain things like reducing chip count, there were some...oddities regarding his design philosophy. For example, he didn't like interrupts and didn't understand why they were considered useful. At least that's what he told some people (literally that he didn't understand interrupts). And sure enough, the Apple II series does not natively support interrupts (there is some support in the expansion slots and the motherboard, but that was probably someone else's work, as Woz did not design the Apple II all by himself). I guess he was largely right, since his computer designs were clearly functional and remained on the market for many years, with their CPUs polling and counting (with some exceptions) all the way. He didn't save much hardware this way--he just didn't see the point. Note that he could have saved on hardware and cost by having the CPU drive the display, like the Atari VCS/2600 and Sinclair ZX series do, but he didn't go to that extreme. I won't go into this in detail right now, but suffice to say that interrupts do have their uses, much like his autonomous video logic. I guess eccentricity is often coincident with genius. :)
So, by sheer luck you put your insulation the right way on the walls, always put the metallic side towards warmth, foam side insulates cold and metallic side reflects warmth (back inside).
Unless you want to keep it cold, of course.
@@BlackEpyon even then it's metallic side towards warmth, only difference is where you are on the warm or cold side.
That metal isn't painted, it's powder coated. So it yellows like any other plastic.
It's so nice to see people with a true love and passion for what they do. And, though Adrian said his career is/has been in IT, the job never defines the person. It's the hobby and excitement that comes from it, that's really who a person is. I've probably got 15 to 20 years on Adrian, so my initial exposure to electronics was CB radio, which lead to an electronics technology program, then consumer electronics repair. Fortunately, I bought a VIC20, and that initiation defined the rest of my working life. From VIC20 to C64 to Atari SE, then to home-built x86 machines. More recently (last 15+ years), I've been an Apple user, and tinker with Linux, Raspberry Pi. Like so many involved in consumer electronics, ultimately, I had to reinvent myself as a tech in Neonatal equipment, software QA, and software customer support for medical related products. Anyway, none of that would have happened if not for the VIC20. It's also good that I got involved in computers and gadgets when I did, as people just a few years older than me often missed the boat, if they had wanted to board.
Two things I found invaluable in the tech/troubleshooting business:
1) Half splitting,
2) When interviewing for a tech position, never say that you know all about something, when you don't, because sure as the sun's gonna rise tomorrow, the person who invented it will be sitting in the next room, and they'll bring him/her into the room to talk to you.
And yes, though Beavis and Butthead never said it: Stewart rules! 😃
Sounds like we're of similar vintage! I turned my electronics hobby into my career. I was working on CBs before going off to a technical college, then got into computers, data communications and networking. Lots of stories to tell throughout my career, many from the CB era. I can honestly say I've seen someone wire a PL-259 plug onto RG58 coax and swap the polarity (shield to center pin, center conductor to outer shell). Wish I'd had a camera! More or less the CB equivalent of using a PC CD-ROM drive tray as a cup holder; an urban legend, but someone was bound to do it for real eventually!
Bob Blum Haha! There's really no end to the craziness that was CB radio at that time. Likewise, of course, the cast of characters (including me) was just as bizarre. After reading your reply, I spent a few minutes thinking back to some of the gear and people of the day. Not so different from the internet in some ways. Today, there are young people on scooters or boards with a fancy gaming laptop in their backpack. I knew a kid who had a 5 watt, 12 channel Lafayette Radio Electronics walkie-talkie and a 102" whip attached to his stingray bicycle. Today, a fancy RGB keyboard or mouse makes an awesome input device. I had a D-104 desktop mic. Come to think of it, "past me" was pretty nerdy. Thanks for taking the time to reply. 😃
I might have teared up a touch around 6:00. This is a really good video, great content, great editing. One thing I really like about your channel is how humble and appreciative you are.
This was just so wholesome. Thank you for sharing your stories, Adrian! I did not grow up with these computers, my first machine already had Windows 95 on it, but I am learning a lot and I am happy that you share this fascinating period of computers with us. Thank you, fantastic video!
oh the joy of watching you open that box.... talk about Christmas morning moment.... I was already working when the Apple II arrived. My first exposure to a personal computer was an Apple II which was used to run a program to generate shadow diagrams for building proposals. Revolutionary in 1980.
Between his intro letter and his packing skills, I love this guy lmao
From Ben Eater to Adrian's Digital Basement, plus Perifractic's Retro Recipes queued... what a great day!
Edit: And Ben Heck, and Retro Man Cave, and LGR, and, and, and...
Ben Heck too, a good day to be on RUclips
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And LGR! :)
Check out RMC Retro Man Cave, very nice as well
Perifractic is a shill.
Catching up on this. I LOVE your t-shirt. This is the same story as me -- I had a vic 20, then a ti 99-4/a, then the Apple ][+ .... I loved my ][+ .... The IIgs was nice, but it didn't have the same joy that the ][+ did. Even at 52, I can still remember so many pieces of the zero page, the ROM entry points, and all sorts of stuff from 40 years ago! It's really amazing how it shaped my life. Hardware projects and programming, even cracking copy protection (like The Newsroom) and swapping software with friends. So much fun. Can't wait to watch the rest of the series. I gotta find one of those shirts.
I just watched Ben Eater's new 6502 Interrupts video, so I was 10 minutes late to this one, only to find yet another 6502 based machine! Well, it's a 6502 day then, so be it.
Yeah, if last month was #SepTandy, then maybe this month is #65OC2BER, eh? 😊
@@williamsquires3070 haha good one :D
@@williamsquires3070 Petition for this to become a thing
8-bit Show and Tell posted recently too. The title? "Programming the 6502"
@@pragmax Yeah, that was after my comment here tho'. But watched that one as well. :) So it indeed turned to a 6502 day.
Even though Apple didn't want you to stack the drives on top of the Apple II with the monitor on top of that, both Woz and Jobs were seen doing it :P
Haha! Must have been lawyers not waiting it then? LOL
@KAPT Kipper Actually, floppies aren't nearly as sensitive as people think, and even less so with those metal chassis. Sure, you'll wreck the data on your disk if you swipe a magnet straight across it a few times, but remember that magnetic fields follow the inverse square law, just as light does, so the further away you are, the weaker the field. The magnetic field on a monitor is centred around the yoke on the neck of the tube, which is usually at least 10-12 inches away from wherever you might have a floppy disk, and that's more than far enough. You can have a box of floppies sitting on top of your monitor, and they'll probably be just fine, though I prefer to keep mine to the side where there's less chance of knocking them down by accident.
That's how they stacked them at my schools. I think Apple corporate gave in by the time they released that double disk drive set-up in a single stackable case later in the Apple II line's commercial life...
@@TheJeremyHolloway same as my High School. The dial drives were sandwiched between the computer and the monitor. Seemed like a standard procedure.
Just started watching and this is an incredibly generous donation. Lovely stuff.
Agreed ☻
Echoing the other comments - I have such respect for your dad and his investment in you. Look at all the dividends of joy his investment has paid out to us visitors to the basement.
Here in the U.K. schools used the BBC Micro for the same usage as the Apple II in the USA. In 2004 I was given an Apple II+ with twin drives & a Apple green screen monitor - the company I worked for had previously used it to run a vinyl plotter for sign writing. It worked perfectly and I had all the discs. Eventually I donated it my local computer museum along with two Dragon 32’s and two BBC Micro’s - since I’ve been watching videos like this I’ve regretted it endlessly
Adrian, I just noticed the Beagle Bros, T-Shirt. I love the Beagle Bros, and their "One Line" basic programs. I put it in quotes because sometimes they were two lines, and frankly it was a euphemism, because the code would normally have been written in multiple lines but they shortened the syntax and used semicolons to avoid starting a new line of code. Usually the small programs did something a little fun. They were getting the most out of the least amount of programming.
Adrian, i am Canadian from my mothers side, and I have visited my family there in Montreal. And I froze Big Time during the winter time. I could not wait until I came back home. I loved the summer time there, but Not the Winter time at all.
Great video Adrian. I used a II+ at the public library on Saturday mornings in downtown Syracuse NY back in the early 80’s and had one for awhile in the mid-90’s. It was the Bell and Howell black one. I started with computers when my Dad bought me a Timex/Sinclair 1000 in 1983 when I was 13 at Wegmans grocery store of all places and went from there. Just love this channel!
You are surely a better man than I. If somebody had sent me a non-working machine and I had not easy access to appropriate tools and replacement parts, PLUS I were not already knowledgeable and/or enthusiastic about that model, I'm not sure I would have considered it a gift...
Thanks for your inspirational videos.
Just got one missed the other week! Want much a part of my childhood, but I still love it so much! It's very satisfying, too, to watch the little LED lamps light up when you, say, boot a DOS disc that loads Integer Basic alongside AppleSoft, watch it write the memory and then lock it, and toggle another LED back and forth by toggling which BASIC is active 😄
Like you, I just love how much these computers just assume a very "hands on" attitude, something later, more Jobs-ian Apple hardware strongly discouraged (which hasn't stopped me from loving those in their own right, too)
I mowed lawns to buy my first machine. When I had enough money to buy a VIC-20, my parents said to keep mowing and get the one you really want, the C64. I, like you, because of the machines influence, am also in IT and have based my entire life around computers.
I owe my life to these 8-bit machines. Seems your feel the same.
I would love to have a dad like Adrian’s. Come to think of it I would love to have Adrian as a friend back in the day... Keep up with the great content! We love it
It's definitely painted, Adrian. You'll see the original dark gray on the inside! :)
Stewart, I’m pretty much your neighbor up here in Maine! Also just insulated my basement with that pink foam. Logo, those were good times!!
I really appreciate the thought Stewart put into the packing. It would be really difficult to unpack without all that thought. And of course a really generous donation that Adrian clearly appreciates, very touching.
The title is a nice surprise for a new video but I think worth editing to include the computer name for the longer term.
Sometimes I think I wouldn't do it like that but I overwhelmingly appreciate Adrian's fault finding and how he present things. I'm not big on Spectrums but he is wrong about that, it's a very reliable machine but not quite as good as the ultimate 8-bit micro, the Acorn BBC model B! ;)
That is one happy Adrian.
I know this is an old video and you probably won't have a chance to read this considering you're full time recording videos now, but Adrian the feeling I'm getting (along with all the viewers and your followers I'm sure) is the absolute joy and nostalgia. I too, just as Stewart and you (and many more) had these at home and then took the class in school where I got into a little bit of trouble myself because I knew computers very well and the teachers had NO IDEA back in the 80s.. haha it was a great time to be alive.. Thank you for sharing these great stories!
My dad did the same for me when he brought home a new Commodore 128 in 1987 (though, to be fair, it was as much for him as it was for my sister and me). And while I didn't go into IT, having such an early start with technology has been nothing but helpful in every job I've had.
I look forward to seeing more of this. I had a Texas Instruments TI-99/4A that was my first computer. I paid $20 at a yard sale out of my own pocket money for it. My father feared and hated computers. I knew they were the future. And that was why I loved them. I never could get him to buy me one. Yet those Apple II Plus I used the most at school. Played so many of my first computer games on Apple II plus. Never got to use a VIC 20. We had Commodore 64 by then. I did a lot my first programming on a Commodore 64 in my Middle School Computer lab. Now I build and program my own PC's. And repair old game consoles. :P
I had no idea you were an NDG kid! I lived in the Deeg for years, love that neighbourhood. So much cool stuff to be found and feels like a town unto itself.
It's been forever now but I knew every inch because I rode my bicycle everywhere back then. Things have probably changed but it was such a great place to grow up. My brother still lives there with his family.
You are so lucky you had some one to buy the computers for you. I worked 3 paper routes for almost a year to afford my first TRS-80. And additional months more to afford a disk drive, printer, expansion slot, speech synth card, etc... in winter I tied cardboard boxes to the sled's handles and pulled it behind me often in thigh deep snow. I remember often coming home with my corduroy pants soaking wet and having to go out again to finish my routes. I would have loved an Apple but they were like 700% of what the TRS-80 was.
Apple II, II plus and early IIe were painted. Apple IIe later migrated to coloured plastic shell. Oddly the III/III plus that were in production inbetween II plus and IIe used coloured plastic shell.
Ok that's quite interesting. Information on this seems very scarce but this machine is definitely painted and I have IIe machines that aren't.
10:09 about the Apple II being from such a different era of Apple compared to today, really well said. I grew up around C64s, Atari STs, an Apple II in school and my uncle's Mac Classic, and loved the whole journey of exploration around all those machines. Later in the late 2000s I got a few old Palm PDAs including a T3 and T5, and was overjoyed at how open they were, a bit like going back to the 80s for home computers. Then I got an iPod Touch and discovered how closed and proprietary Apple had become, with almost entirely non-serviceable parts and a totally locked down operating system. Hopefully we can get back some of that openness of the past.
that wasn't a "rant", it was a very nice memory of your youth! I have now an Apple //e under one of my LCD monitors, which I can run whenever I want in PIP mode! It was my mom's computer back in 1986 and it took me a long while to find one which was identical to the one we had, including the small Apple monochrome monitor. It was broken too and I totally enjoyed fixing it and also cleaning it thoroughly (try the Electrolube fluids, the motherboard will come up BRAND NEW!!). I've also recapped everything: PSU, drives and monitor. As you did, I removed the RIFA before even testing the PSU and the Monitor had three already-exploded RIFAs in it!! :D
I retrobrighted the monitor case but, as you say, the Apple case is painted. I tested some peroxide at the back to make sure and it actually makes the paint a bit dull. Mine is not discoloured though so I am not sure what's going on on yours. I look forward to seeing your progress, thanks for sharing this with us!
(Also: admit it, you would have been VERY disappointed if that machine just worked fine!!!)
I'm only 5 minutes in and I'm floored by Stewart's packing job. Absolutely incredible.
Looks like exactly the same setup our school had when I was in 9th grade. I convinced my high school to start a computer programming class back then in Newell SD... so many hours of typing code from magazines...
Totally should've went to the Genius Bar for this with a hidden camera just to see what their response was.
16:42 I love that old Microsoft logo. I get serious metal album/DnD vibes from it.
Rich Daddy !!!
3 Computer in 80;s. damn
My father was a single father and a small business owner. He sacrificed so he could invest in his children's futures.
Blown away by the quality of the shipping here. Going to be nice to see you breath life into it.
Hey Adrian I'm from germany and I watch every video from your chanel. I like the repair videos from the old stuff, exspacally the Commodore.
I wonder where you put all the stuff after the video, do you have a storrage?
Maybe you can show the people where you live and where you make the videos.
Thanks for all the great videos!
I can relate to excited little Adrian at 6:08. I loved my Commodore, but I really wished that it had been an Apple.
What a incredible father you have, I had to work hard with small jobs to save up to my Commodore Amiga 500. At the time when I got my A500 my dad considered computers as completely useless, half a year later he was using my Amiga too and a couple of years later he bought his own PC. When we brought it in our house I asked "I thought you said that computers are completely useless?" and he replied "I never said that!", so nowadays when he asks for advice on Windows or anything else I always start by saying "computers are useless, don't use them" ;-)
LOL!
ASTEC made lots of power supplies for computers, and generally they were very good at it. They are now known by the name Artesyn, and still make really good power supplies :)
Our families first computer, a tandy 1000 ex, was quite life changing for me.
You are Bob Ross of classic computers. This is art. Thank you
i went to grade school in the chicagoland area in the mid 80s. We had a computer lab with about 15 Apple IIEs (and a couple TIs in the corner which i never went near). This got me totally obsessed with computers. My parents eventually got me an Apple IIC+ which I wish I knew what we did with it. Just like Stuart and Adrian this sparked a lifelong interest in computers, and retro computing (which brings me to this channel!). And I played the hell out of Bards Tale (3), Ultima (IV) and Oregon Trail (which I played at school a million, million times). What a great video!
I remember when my high school got the Apple II's. There was some sort of fund raiser to get them that they called "An Apple for the teacher".
My first computer was the Vic-20 and I remember buying it from the manager of a stereo store who was into computers. It cost $300 back in 1982.
My next computer was a commodore 64. Some one did eventually give me an apple II but the drive controller doesn't work and there is a keycap missing.
Very cool donation from Stewart and it's clear to see how much it means to you Adrian.
25:09 "Well I think I've done enough waffling about cleaning up everything!" Keep calm and waffle on! lol
Brings me back to the Apple //c my dad got me -- and the time he once took the day off to drive me half way across the state to find printer ribbons for my Scribe printer. I still have the //c, the love of technology and games, and a career in tech/games that that Apple helped set me on course for.
please, no paperclips jammed in random ports
Hahaha this is gonna be a joke for years. Love it
me, a smartass: _jams paperclips in every single port i can see_
Adrian: carefully clean and observe everything, changed capacitors.
8-bit guy: yuhuu, smoke test!!
That's what happens when you're unable to find a technical reference manual :(
@@BlackEpyon Or your sense.
Another reason apple didn’t want the drives on top was the degaussing ring around most screens of the time would ruin disks...
I worked with an Apple ][ back in 1979 at Analog Devices Semeconductor in Wilmington, MA. We created a card to control a temperature-test chamber. One of THE drawbacks was how much the motherboard flexed when inserting and removing cards ;(
Very moving video. Thanks Adrian. Yes, good idea escaping the Canadian winter moving to Oregon.
Greetings from MTL
18:10 "8-bit guy" - ah yes, the tried and true testing method of shorting a power supply with a paperclip
I can't get over how bad that video was, he totally fucked it
A big mistake doing that on a youtube video.
@@NicolaiSyvertsen A bigger mistake was to release the video.
@@Okurka. And another mistake was to not accept criticism and disabling the comments. I love the 8 bit guy but he messed up big time with that video.
@@Bubi1988 I can understand that people make mistakes, but the fact he constantly whinges and complains about "oh I had to drive a whole hour to go to the Mecca of retro computing" and "I don't have time for this" when most people who are into this sort of thing would give their left bollock to even go to Computer Reset once, never mind multiple times, properly rubbed me up the wrong way.
What such a genuine thankfulness video! Love it!! More YT should be like you! Kudos!
We had one of these at school, I have fond memories of it although I had a TRS-80 at home which was my favourite.
what a great packing job! when I was in elementary school they had apple IIes in a row in the library with every other one hooked to an imagewriter printer. I always craved to get to that particular machine. and then I would gorge on The print shop lol. if I didn't, it was oregon trail, or karateka. I don't think I ever saw a II plus, so must have not been that common where we lived. I got what was the closest to my childhood system when I got a IIc on freecycle about 8 years ago. I also by that time had acquired an imagewriter printer, so I was able to pair the two together. and among the software I got with the IIc? The print shop. lol good times.
Another awesome video Adrian, you clearly are working very hard getting so much great content out. When you powered it on, I was thinking please don't work, we want to see some troubleshooting. Not to wish you bad luck, I love it when things I get don't work and I think you do too
My dad bought the family an Apple ][+ in 1979. My brother and I ended up modding it in 1984, by replacing the motherboard with a DIY-soldered IIe clone board bought out of Computer Shopper, running ROM images copied from an Apple //c at school. We left the original keyboard in the case and patched in a detached cloned IIe keyboard on a 30-conductor cable. I still have the original ][+ boards wrapped in aluminum foil somewhere.
the Apple //, //+, //e, //c and //c+ were really nice looking pieces of hardware. I'm in love with my 3rd revision //c w/memory expansion slot and I see myself never selling it and giving it to my son when he's older ...and born.
Thank you for putting that index / chapter navigator into the video description of every video! I landed on part III by mercy of RUclips, tried to find part I by just browsing through your uploads and it wasn't easy! (esp. since this video doesn't say "Apple" in the title). Then I thought to look in the description - and voila! Appreciate your attention to the viewers :)
back in the day... when I attended DeVry, I was in-charge of the D.I.N. (DeVry Information Network) which basically was an Apple II with 2 video outputs- one to a local screen and the other to a massive distribution network (read: racks of video amps and a switcher) designed to display its output to hundreds (or more) monitors in all of the classrooms and hallways/common areas of the DeVry campuses. Every day, I had to come in, early in the morning, and sit down in this cramped room and type out the day's messages and announcements which were provided in an "in box" of sorts.. (oh, the FUN I had one day... in fact, a practical joke so devious, its result/effect STILL ripples to this day- but thats a story for another time!)
28:20 - That has to be one of the first switching supplies developed.
Your history of school sounds much like mine, where the teacher was not really familiar with computers. I had one the same at home and knew *everything*. It was all Acorn "BBC B" machines in the UK.
Hey Adrian, Love your episodes. I remember my great fondness using Apple 1,2,plus, 2E, And a 3 series over the years in grade school up to high school. I remembering seeing the original Apple series made of wood. (Amazingly primitive craftsman looking) The lab was full of these cool Apples from over the years.. The Apple 2 GS Woz version that was allowed to play with as well. I loved these and wished Apple would have developed the series further. (so ahead of its time) Thanks again for putting this video up/out... I got great pleasure reliving my early memories.
Hi Adrian, Love these retro videos. What I found to work really well cleaning those cases is scrubbing bubbles, and a soft brush. Spray it on, then use the brush, and wipe it off.
Let me know how it works for you.
I've seen others mention that exact process too. I have a can of it -- so will need to give that a try!
Thanks, I don't work on switching power supplies and did not know about the X and Y designation on the cap.
I remember owning the Apply II EuroPlus model. Basically the European/Australian/Asian model that has a little switch on the bottom of the keyboard so you could change between the two inbuilt keyboard layouts usualy the standard US and the layout for whatever country you purchased the computer in.
You are definitely my favorite disembodied hands 🙂
Also, "genius bar" is such a contradictory term. They're just there to sell you a new device.
That was packed much better than the Amiga 500 I got in a postal box with absolutely no padding. Plastic bits were literally falling out of the box when it arrived.
My Apple IIe smoked one of the 2 RIFA caps last month. It also blew the fuse but did no other harm. Replaced both caps and all is now working. Don't know why mine had two RIFA caps and yours only one, but best to replace them.
The old pics were a nice touch
Adrian Black-Mail... that has to give the post office a second look every time lol.
The first computer I ever developed software for professionally was the Apple II+. Great memories! I personally owned (and still own) a VIC-20 also, and I also have an Apple IIe and a IIc. I love all of these for different reasons.
Perhaps you might enjoy reading some of my blog entries about those days. microcomputing.blogspot.com/2007/
ASTEC was the brand to go in the mid to late 1980ies when you did 8bit desktop conversions. they had really good but still affordable open frame switching power supplies. for my Amstrad CPC-conversion i even stripped out a clone PC psu and fitted an ASTEC board in.
Wow, this is awesome! I remember using one of those to win a programming competition in high school held at a local technical school. As a Commodore guy (Vic20 and C64) I had to practice at a local library to figure out the VERY different editing system for BASIC that Apple used. At least it felt very different to me. I was so proud of myself for beating everyone who had been programming on Apple for years. It was probably the sense of accomplishment from that competition that lead me to my career in tech. Geeks who grew up in the 70s owe a lot to our family, schools, and libraries who supported us with equipment that was very expensive, and didn’t seem super practical to most people at the time.
Its so easy to understand that Stewart meticulous packing is a tribute to this channel, just another form of respect which people watch this channel are dying to give/show towards Adrian :)
U looked so sweet as a child and have a rather pleasant personality even now like the "8-bit guy" and Techmoan, legends!
Similar computing story here: first computer dad brought home was a TRS-80 Color Computer 2. Fortunately, while I was in junior high, my mom decided to get her masters in Computer Education, so she had to buy an Apple! I steered her away from the //c to the//e...we had the good fortune of buying one of the first "enhanced" //e's. Great for teaching myself assembly with the monitor 😎 we bought ours with the DuoDisk, which was designed to sit on top of the case.