1. I think I am getting old, because I found it very hard to see the improvements and differences you were talking about. Let's hope it was RUclips 😃. Probably the usefulness of either is dictated by the ultimate delivery platform? 2. Topaz is now available as a plug-in for Davinci. But is so slow, it isn't at all convenient. OK if you are planning a holiday in the middle of your edit. Also, Davinci Studio noise reduction is pretty good in itself, and a lot more convenient. 3. Love the 1/40 second shutter speed idea. That was really worth knowing. Brilliant. Thanks
I use Topaz Photo AI for all my video denoising. I just export the video as PNGs, batch process the denoise, then put it all back together in Davinci Resolve. Much better result than any video denoise so far.
RUclips definitely smoothed things over. I'm using Neatvideo after having tried out Topaz and much prefer it. It's just a smoother workflow and I prefer the customizability and results. I have created noise profiles for my A7IV and ZV-E1 for various situations so that now it has become more or less a drag and drop effect. I'm only having a bit of trouble with reducing enough noise when filming night shots with extreme noise in the ZV-E1's Slog-3, but I'll tackle that next week. I also don't really want to have another subscription. Adobe is already more than enough.
Neat video with a light reintroduction of film grain has been my go to for noise reduction. I'm not sure if grain would make it through the youtube compression? Or if it doesn't make it be a net positive? It seems like sometimes grain helps with banding you get from a lower bit depth. Whenever I've used topaz it was on footage that was shot on a potato and has to be included for some reason and I'm never really happy with the result.
My wife heard me playing this vid and she was like "is that the guy from headspace meditation?" ; I was so confused. So I looked up a video with the guy, and sure enough, he sounds very similar haha
Once applied to a clip, Neat seems to slow down editing/playback in Resolve even after you turn it off. I only apply it after editing is complete, just before output. Has anyone else experienced this?
This may help: To optimize the denoiser's settings go to Neat Video's menu Tools > Preferences… and then to the Performance tab. Run the optimize test and use those settings. Also, in my experience, changing any of the quality parameters from 'Normal' to 'High' slows the process down EXPONENTIALLY. I went from 3fps to 10fps, and I don't believe it's worth it.
I go for 1/100th for greenscreen because motion blur makes a big difference imo there. Maybe too if you're planning to rotoscope. BTW, risky shirt for compression with that red, blue/grey mix!
Pretty nice to test these both. I'm totally fine with 1st step throw everything through Topaz and edit next day. But,, ah 9:40, yeah it changes color. Sometimes pretty much. I think I'll start using Neat Video again more. Neat Video as a plugin in Adobe does make my software crash now and then. With Topaz less so. But sometimes Topaz leaves temporary files which in Windows can be difficult to delete. I believe they are fixing this issue. Topaz community is nice and active.
@Harv I did notice you're using Topaz Video AI Ver 4.2, are you aware of the milestone v5 release already this month? Will you be comparing it to Neat or have you already?
Mmmmm not really. Buying it gets you the current version and updates for a year. After that year you have to buy again (with a discount) to continue getting updates, but if you don't the version you bought does continue working.
Mainly because (unfortunately) most people watch RUclips videos on phones these days so when showing a full screen capture it can be tricky to see what’s going on. So purely practical reasons 👍🏻
Enjoy guys, let me know which you prefer for NR 👇🏻
Neat Video for sure
1. I think I am getting old, because I found it very hard to see the improvements and differences you were talking about. Let's hope it was RUclips 😃. Probably the usefulness of either is dictated by the ultimate delivery platform?
2. Topaz is now available as a plug-in for Davinci. But is so slow, it isn't at all convenient. OK if you are planning a holiday in the middle of your edit. Also, Davinci Studio noise reduction is pretty good in itself, and a lot more convenient.
3. Love the 1/40 second shutter speed idea. That was really worth knowing. Brilliant. Thanks
I hope that horrendous colour noise in your knitted jumper was intentional. :) :D
I noticed this as well. Clever. Very clever, Harv 😂
I use Topaz Photo AI for all my video denoising. I just export the video as PNGs, batch process the denoise, then put it all back together in Davinci Resolve. Much better result than any video denoise so far.
RUclips definitely smoothed things over. I'm using Neatvideo after having tried out Topaz and much prefer it. It's just a smoother workflow and I prefer the customizability and results. I have created noise profiles for my A7IV and ZV-E1 for various situations so that now it has become more or less a drag and drop effect. I'm only having a bit of trouble with reducing enough noise when filming night shots with extreme noise in the ZV-E1's Slog-3, but I'll tackle that next week.
I also don't really want to have another subscription. Adobe is already more than enough.
Neat video with a light reintroduction of film grain has been my go to for noise reduction. I'm not sure if grain would make it through the youtube compression? Or if it doesn't make it be a net positive? It seems like sometimes grain helps with banding you get from a lower bit depth. Whenever I've used topaz it was on footage that was shot on a potato and has to be included for some reason and I'm never really happy with the result.
Helpful.
My wife heard me playing this vid and she was like "is that the guy from headspace meditation?" ; I was so confused. So I looked up a video with the guy, and sure enough, he sounds very similar haha
It would also be interesting to compare the noise reduction offered by Davinci Resolve, since now you have the two programs.
Once applied to a clip, Neat seems to slow down editing/playback in Resolve even after you turn it off. I only apply it after editing is complete, just before output. Has anyone else experienced this?
This may help: To optimize the denoiser's settings go to Neat Video's menu Tools > Preferences… and then to the Performance tab. Run the optimize test and use those settings.
Also, in my experience, changing any of the quality parameters from 'Normal' to 'High' slows the process down EXPONENTIALLY. I went from 3fps to 10fps, and I don't believe it's worth it.
I go for 1/100th for greenscreen because motion blur makes a big difference imo there. Maybe too if you're planning to rotoscope. BTW, risky shirt for compression with that red, blue/grey mix!
Pretty nice to test these both. I'm totally fine with 1st step throw everything through Topaz and edit next day. But,, ah 9:40, yeah it changes color. Sometimes pretty much. I think I'll start using Neat Video again more. Neat Video as a plugin in Adobe does make my software crash now and then. With Topaz less so. But sometimes Topaz leaves temporary files which in Windows can be difficult to delete. I believe they are fixing this issue. Topaz community is nice and active.
@Harv I did notice you're using Topaz Video AI Ver 4.2, are you aware of the milestone v5 release already this month? Will you be comparing it to Neat or have you already?
Topaz has a subscription model. No way Jose I'm I using Topaz.
Mmmmm not really. Buying it gets you the current version and updates for a year. After that year you have to buy again (with a discount) to continue getting updates, but if you don't the version you bought does continue working.
Doesnt have a subscription model. You pay for the license. After a year you can buy upgrades but you dont have to.
I do like neat video but it’s soooooo slow. I think there’s space for a new company to create something better.
Nah its fast if you have a fast computer
Why do you you keep zooming in and out in your video? I hate this annoying trend youtubers are doing during editing.
Mainly because (unfortunately) most people watch RUclips videos on phones these days so when showing a full screen capture it can be tricky to see what’s going on. So purely practical reasons 👍🏻