If they want to enjoy the same hobby, they better learn the culture it developed if they want to join the community. If they want to enjoy the hobby their own way? Cool, do it on their own then
I want everyone who can enjoy a hobby to enjoy it, including the existing fans. Ostensibly, that's what new fans want too (or so they often say, but perhaps they're just trying to justify changes they're biased towards, to the hobby, and don't actually give a fuck about existing fans). If a huge influx of new fans are so annoying and ignorant that existing fans can't enjoy the hobby anymore, then everyone is very much NOT enjoying the hobby anymore and all that has happened is that new fans have commandeered it. So, new fans should have to engage with the hobby as it was before the trendy changes that attracted them, reflect on whether the core of the hobby is actually something they like, and either adapt, filter themselves out and not engage with something they don't actually like, or be humble and don't pretend they love the hobby more than they do.
I used to be against gatekeeping... until I watched basically every entertainment franchise I love be taken over and destroyed by tourists who didn't like it for what it was and just wanted to change it more to their liking.
Tell me - What would any amount of gatekeeping you did have changed? The "tourists" you're comaplining about weren't hired because a massive chunk of the fanbase wanted them in.
This is basically what happened to Berserk, Vinland Saga and Vagabond, you just have a bunch of people spamming the exact same edits and taking things out of context. For those who want an example of what I'm talking about, GUTS IS *NOT* JUST A BIG ANGRY MAN WITH A SWORD
@@Lo-tf6qtjust call them "regarded" and carry on with your day dude, don't let em spoil your enjoyment of the classics, and I say that as someone who has been a fan of Berserk since 1997 so I have gone through this cycle a few times.
Gatekeeping for hobbies is immaterial. It wasn't the modern audience (all 200 of them) that did any amount of damage to nerd hobbies, for example; But they are a convenient scapegoat for the shareholders to throw your way to chew on.
@@OzixiThrilltell me again why triple a devs gaslight gaming communities so hard to push the narrative that this is what they want? You don't just gatekeep by keeping the tourists out but to also gatekeep the devs and others who support dei woke content by voting with your wallets as well as stop supporting the bad content!
That was one of the most sensible things I've ever heard in awhile now in terms of criticizing a show, most people these days just consoom, consoom and consoom, that "shut the fuck up" from her is so satisfying to hear.
Lumi's so right about this. I liked the original Wicked, particularly because my mother introduced me and my siblings to her love of musicals early on, but I don't give a rat's ass about the new one. Also, yes. Gatekeep what you love from folks that just want to hop on to chase a trend and then eventually twist that which you adore into something that'll make themselves feel better about their inadequacies and idiotic behavior. If you don't, you'll eventually get pushed out once they take over. Just look at the "modern audience" aspect of current-day gaming, comics, etc.
The irony is that *you* are a tourist. Wicked was a book series with the first novel written in 1995 before some tourist watered it down and turned it into a musical, destroying the original intent of the series. I suggest reading it before talking about twisting the original intentions, gatekeeping, and modern audiences. Because you, sir, are the modern audience. Wicked, the novel series upon which the musical was based - sorry, rewritten for the “modern audience”, was highly political.
@@DokiDokiAviaryClub , I said I liked it. Didn't say I loved it. In fact, especially after 2015 (the start of when sociopolitical messaging got even worse and more so blatant than it used to... not saying political agendas spliced into entertainment never existed beforehand... just stating when I, as an individual, took note of it a lot more than I did prior to that year) and so on, I know full well that it's, in more ways than one, a mockery to a certain extent of the source material. It's essentially one of the first mainstream examples of the concept of post modernist deconstruction of classic tales/stories. It just so happened to be a well-crafted one compared to the slop we keep on getting these days. I try not to partake in these things anymore the older I get. Same thing goes with something like Frozen or Tangled. Pretty much feminist retelling of stories to twist and revise what the writers deemed "problematic". I, too, initially found those to be somewhat neat at first because I was not yet that into studying what goes down in producing and making these products. Nowadays, being an independent, freelance illustrator myself with a lot of plans ahead in terms of being creative and telling my own stories, I've grown up from all that. So, yeah. No sh**, SHERLOCK. I was a thousand percent a tourist back then when I first got introduced to Wicked. I was also just a kid. Do the math. I'm turning 27 this year. If I recall correctly, the original first show of Wicked was way back in 2003. Next time, don't pretend to know someone before categorizing said person as the "modern audience". I do my best to read into and study the art that I consume and partake in. I'd have been a lot more cool-headed with you if you simply discussed what you had in mind before trying to put me down for a short statement I said that related directly to the video here.
i feel like every vtuber should feel this way about kids who complain about vocaloid, especially when the songs make references to sexuality. ipad kids act like a child was touched because an adult's voice was used to sing about sex. gatekeeping becomes necessary to filter annoying people
@@dragonhitman1071 I have complete faith in Henry Cavill to remain faithful to the lore rather than now to politics on either side of the aisle. It's what caused tension between him and the writers of the Witcher series.
The misunderstanding I think is "gatekeeping" doesn't mean new people can't come in, it just means "Here's what's come before, learn it, do you actually enjoy it, cool you're in". As much as I might wanna share my hobbies, I don't want it changed.
“The gate is shut. It was made by those who wrote canon, and the fans keep it, until a true fan comes. The gate is shut.” And until then... "My armor is contempt. My shield is disgust. My sword is hatred."
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It's because the people gatekeeping exists to keep out convinced all the normies that gatekeeping was evil. Anyone who argues against gatekeeping is someone who should be gatekept, because either their goal is to destroy what you love, or they haven't had something they loved destroyed yet and can't be trusted to hold the line.
yes lumi learn form the starwars fans failure to gatekeep and many other hobbies failure to gatekeep dont make the same mistake as us. sincerely from a star wars fan.
You certainly didn't learn any actual lessons from Star Wars then. Because a massive chunk of the fanbase rejected the sequels hard, yet they happened anyways. Because it doesn't matter what the consumer makeup is, at most they make a convenient scapegoat for the decisions that shareholders demand to be made.
@@OzixiThrill: The Star Wars sequels didn't do well overall. I don't think any of them were actual busts, sadly, but they certainly weren't blockbusters either. Most of the shows haven't done all that well, with the latest, The Acolyte, being an indisputable disaster. Shareholders know the movies all should have been slam dunks with one of the world's most popular IPs, and they don't like the track record of the shows, which is why some tried to oust Iger a year or two ago. Unfortunately, others, who care more about "The Message" than anything else, managed to maintain their positions. However, with the new administration and a shift in cultural priorities, there may be a new attempt from shareholders soon. I gave up on Star Wars years ago, but if the company can get back on the right track overall, I think that would be great news.
lmao the original star wars was literally the highest grossing move of all time when it released. It's just about the most basic bitch normie mainstream thing that has ever existed.
@@Noelle808 : True, but you may not be aware of all the books that were released. Starting with Timothy Zahn's _Heir to the Empire_ in 1991, what became known as the Expanded Universe added A LOT of lore to the Star Wars mythos. Dísnéy, of course, threw all that out with their acquisition of the IP in 2012, but that didn't automatically negate the expectations and assumptions that had been part of the fandom for over two decades at that point.
I'm a strong advocate for gatekeeping gaming and anime. Just look at the state of the game industry, it's been miss after miss after miss. Our favorite franchises have been driven under by tourists that will call us gamers "talentless freaks, chuds, problematic, etc." Anime will be in greater danger if we don't put our foot down.
Oddly enough I don't mind it with 40k because it gives me a reason to go on a thesis long rant about X or y lore topic That being said remember kids: A gatekeep a day keeps the cancer away
Humans have been gatekeeping for millea, because we know inherently that some people aren't up to the task to enjoy and cherish what you do. Exclusion happens in nature and we perfected it. People need to learn to stay in their lanes, or adapt correctly to not get pushed aside.
Proper way to gatekeeping Warhammer: *Read the wiki *Pick stuff you like *Imagine how it reasonably could work *Read WH novel and bash the author over shit they know nothing about (Like an ICBM torpedo flying slower than a Hellfire missile) And BOOM you're a respectable member of the Warhammer Gatekeeping Community
Having been part of the 40k fandom since 2009...yeah, we're having to gatekeep and tell people off. Leave your politics at the door, we just want to paint miniatures and argue about stupid lore bits. We've gotten a lot of refugees from Star Wars come in and cry woke at stuff that's been part of the lore since the 90's and miss the obvious satire. These same "fans" look at the Imperium of Man as a good thing as if they'd be a Space Marine if they were born in the setting, but in reality the Imperium is the most brutal, dystopian and authoritarian regime in human history and they'd be more likely to be a factory laborer who is worked to death by 40. The only justification for it is because hell actually exists and actively wants your soul. Not to mention that the current Imperium is the polar opposite of what the Emperor wanted it to be. Spoilers: he wiped out all religion on Earth including what was left of Christianity. Nearly everyone sucks in the setting, which makes figures like Ollanius, Vulkan, and Ciaphas Cain that much more special.
Ngl. I noticed that In my country the new wicked fans (specifically the annoying ones) are in majority lgbt (not all ,just majority). And tbey really dont like old fans and now only posts wicked gifs as reactions
When Henry Cavil had to explain why female space marines and custodes was a bad idea. And they refused the sisters of battle under the basis of "too religious." That should have been a sign to FIRE THOSE WRITERS. You wanted female representation. There is a LITERAL SISTERHOOD as female representation as well as billions of Astra Militarum badasses and rogue traders and inquisitors. Hell Imperial Navy has plenty of Lotara-likes. But no it had to be something that was already an all male faction, just for the express reason that you wanted to ruin something.
If you can't explain the full rules of Rouge Trader then you're a fake fan. Seriously though I totally get the annoying tourist thing but the plus side is they're temporary and will wander off to the next thing once the hype dies down.
Im relativly new to warhammer. still catching up with the horus heresy books. but i dont think henry cavill will pull in the same "type" of fan that ariana grande pulls in. mainly because cavill is a gigantic nerd and a lot of his fans are already familiar with warhammer.
Well, I'm complaining about gatekeeping because it's the smokescreen topic that shields your eyes from the actual problem. Which is a company the products of which you like being publicly traded.
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Gatekeeping is the immune system of a healthy hobby.
I like that comparison.
Unfortunately normies outnumber us
Lumi discovers the purpose of gatekeeping
Sheeeeesss learning
Remember, the gate only keeps out the trend chasers.
“Don’t you want more people to enjoy your hobby th-
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If they want to enjoy the same hobby, they better learn the culture it developed if they want to join the community. If they want to enjoy the hobby their own way? Cool, do it on their own then
I want everyone who can enjoy a hobby to enjoy it, including the existing fans. Ostensibly, that's what new fans want too (or so they often say, but perhaps they're just trying to justify changes they're biased towards, to the hobby, and don't actually give a fuck about existing fans).
If a huge influx of new fans are so annoying and ignorant that existing fans can't enjoy the hobby anymore, then everyone is very much NOT enjoying the hobby anymore and all that has happened is that new fans have commandeered it.
So, new fans should have to engage with the hobby as it was before the trendy changes that attracted them, reflect on whether the core of the hobby is actually something they like, and either adapt, filter themselves out and not engage with something they don't actually like, or be humble and don't pretend they love the hobby more than they do.
Welcome to the club, Lumi.
I used to be against gatekeeping... until I watched basically every entertainment franchise I love be taken over and destroyed by tourists who didn't like it for what it was and just wanted to change it more to their liking.
Tell me - What would any amount of gatekeeping you did have changed? The "tourists" you're comaplining about weren't hired because a massive chunk of the fanbase wanted them in.
This is basically what happened to Berserk, Vinland Saga and Vagabond, you just have a bunch of people spamming the exact same edits and taking things out of context.
For those who want an example of what I'm talking about, GUTS IS *NOT* JUST A BIG ANGRY MAN WITH A SWORD
@@Lo-tf6qtjust call them "regarded" and carry on with your day dude, don't let em spoil your enjoyment of the classics, and I say that as someone who has been a fan of Berserk since 1997 so I have gone through this cycle a few times.
1:33 "I'm going to make myself a real fan so that I can then shit on others for not being real fans."
Never change, Lemon, never change.
BASED AF LEMON.
The death of target demographics and the need to have everything appeal to everyone for maximum market penetration has been a disaster for all media
a game for everyone is a game for no one!
As well as people with not culture pr respect to their elders coming in to fuck up a FOTM or trendy thing
She speaks, and I just smile and nod.
Tourists shall explode -Kaneko Lumi of Phase Connect
Total tourist destruction
Gatekeeping is important for the survival of anything.
Nobody understands gatekeeping till their hobby is the one that receives the new obnoxious fans
Gatekeeping is good. It is necessary because the new people will tend to ruin hobbies and are not fans but activist
Gatekeeping is mandatory, so the ones who aren't bad actors will learn to sneak in and keep a low profile
Gatekeeping for hobbies is immaterial.
It wasn't the modern audience (all 200 of them) that did any amount of damage to nerd hobbies, for example; But they are a convenient scapegoat for the shareholders to throw your way to chew on.
@@JayTohabnope so they learn to respect the established brand and keep it to themselves
@@OzixiThrilltell me again why triple a devs gaslight gaming communities so hard to push the narrative that this is what they want? You don't just gatekeep by keeping the tourists out but to also gatekeep the devs and others who support dei woke content by voting with your wallets as well as stop supporting the bad content!
Gatekeeping is good when it keeps out people who don't agree with me, and bad when it keeps out people who agree with me.
I'm so proud of her!
I thought this would be about her new fans. If I can still call myself a new fan.
yeah... I realized it could be read that way after making the thumbnail... but... it's fine... 🤣
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If that's the case, it should instead read "new fans find me annoying".
she is so real for this
either you gatekeep your games or they gatekeep it from you!
The purity of the IP must be protected.
" I read the manga " energy
Of course it's a musical that makes her have this character development
That was one of the most sensible things I've ever heard in awhile now in terms of criticizing a show, most people these days just consoom, consoom and consoom, that "shut the fuck up" from her is so satisfying to hear.
Lumi's so right about this. I liked the original Wicked, particularly because my mother introduced me and my siblings to her love of musicals early on, but I don't give a rat's ass about the new one. Also, yes. Gatekeep what you love from folks that just want to hop on to chase a trend and then eventually twist that which you adore into something that'll make themselves feel better about their inadequacies and idiotic behavior. If you don't, you'll eventually get pushed out once they take over. Just look at the "modern audience" aspect of current-day gaming, comics, etc.
The irony is that *you* are a tourist. Wicked was a book series with the first novel written in 1995 before some tourist watered it down and turned it into a musical, destroying the original intent of the series. I suggest reading it before talking about twisting the original intentions, gatekeeping, and modern audiences. Because you, sir, are the modern audience.
Wicked, the novel series upon which the musical was based - sorry, rewritten for the “modern audience”, was highly political.
@@DokiDokiAviaryClub , I said I liked it. Didn't say I loved it. In fact, especially after 2015 (the start of when sociopolitical messaging got even worse and more so blatant than it used to... not saying political agendas spliced into entertainment never existed beforehand... just stating when I, as an individual, took note of it a lot more than I did prior to that year) and so on, I know full well that it's, in more ways than one, a mockery to a certain extent of the source material. It's essentially one of the first mainstream examples of the concept of post modernist deconstruction of classic tales/stories. It just so happened to be a well-crafted one compared to the slop we keep on getting these days. I try not to partake in these things anymore the older I get.
Same thing goes with something like Frozen or Tangled. Pretty much feminist retelling of stories to twist and revise what the writers deemed "problematic". I, too, initially found those to be somewhat neat at first because I was not yet that into studying what goes down in producing and making these products. Nowadays, being an independent, freelance illustrator myself with a lot of plans ahead in terms of being creative and telling my own stories, I've grown up from all that.
So, yeah. No sh**, SHERLOCK. I was a thousand percent a tourist back then when I first got introduced to Wicked. I was also just a kid. Do the math. I'm turning 27 this year. If I recall correctly, the original first show of Wicked was way back in 2003.
Next time, don't pretend to know someone before categorizing said person as the "modern audience". I do my best to read into and study the art that I consume and partake in. I'd have been a lot more cool-headed with you if you simply discussed what you had in mind before trying to put me down for a short statement I said that related directly to the video here.
Careful, she's learning!
Lumi gets it
Wicked is a retcon
god we love you Lumi
She had the gaslight and girlboss parts already, now she has the full trifecta!
Gatekeeping? Back in my old warhammer club we called that "quality control" back in the day.
i feel like every vtuber should feel this way about kids who complain about vocaloid, especially when the songs make references to sexuality. ipad kids act like a child was touched because an adult's voice was used to sing about sex. gatekeeping becomes necessary to filter annoying people
She's finally understands us. Henry's Warhammer will most likely be pretty good though so we're safe on that one o geuss.
@@dragonhitman1071 I have complete faith in Henry Cavill to remain faithful to the lore rather than now to politics on either side of the aisle. It's what caused tension between him and the writers of the Witcher series.
@rainsoakedscribe7068 yup he one of us
Rare Lumi W
The misunderstanding I think is "gatekeeping" doesn't mean new people can't come in, it just means "Here's what's come before, learn it, do you actually enjoy it, cool you're in". As much as I might wanna share my hobbies, I don't want it changed.
Honestly BASED!
She's learning =w=
“The gate is shut. It was made by those who wrote canon, and the fans keep it, until a true fan comes. The gate is shut.”
And until then...
"My armor is contempt. My shield is disgust. My sword is hatred."
What an ironic thing to say for a new warhammer fan
At last, she understands.
Yolu mean misunderstands like a lot of other people have?
People enjoying a thing you like in a wrong way should be a crime.
Gatekeeping is important if you want to keep something safe and pure from the globohomos.
The company not going public is the single thing that matters on that front.
I read this as Lumi gatekeeping new Lumi fans.
This is how the internet has felt since 2007. It's only gotten worse.
I hate when people say "you don't want more people to know about (x thing) ?"
NOOO, i don't
funny since it's what she's playing in this clip, but this is exactly how i feel about poe 2 and in turn, poe 1
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gatekeeping is fine and I'm tired of people treating it as a bad thing
It's because the people gatekeeping exists to keep out convinced all the normies that gatekeeping was evil. Anyone who argues against gatekeeping is someone who should be gatekept, because either their goal is to destroy what you love, or they haven't had something they loved destroyed yet and can't be trusted to hold the line.
Gatekeeping is bad.
Except when it is applied to something i like, then it is good.
yes lumi learn form the starwars fans failure to gatekeep and many other hobbies failure to gatekeep dont make the same mistake as us. sincerely from a star wars fan.
You certainly didn't learn any actual lessons from Star Wars then.
Because a massive chunk of the fanbase rejected the sequels hard, yet they happened anyways. Because it doesn't matter what the consumer makeup is, at most they make a convenient scapegoat for the decisions that shareholders demand to be made.
@@OzixiThrill: The Star Wars sequels didn't do well overall. I don't think any of them were actual busts, sadly, but they certainly weren't blockbusters either. Most of the shows haven't done all that well, with the latest, The Acolyte, being an indisputable disaster. Shareholders know the movies all should have been slam dunks with one of the world's most popular IPs, and they don't like the track record of the shows, which is why some tried to oust Iger a year or two ago. Unfortunately, others, who care more about "The Message" than anything else, managed to maintain their positions. However, with the new administration and a shift in cultural priorities, there may be a new attempt from shareholders soon. I gave up on Star Wars years ago, but if the company can get back on the right track overall, I think that would be great news.
lmao the original star wars was literally the highest grossing move of all time when it released.
It's just about the most basic bitch normie mainstream thing that has ever existed.
@@Noelle808 : True, but you may not be aware of all the books that were released. Starting with Timothy Zahn's _Heir to the Empire_ in 1991, what became known as the Expanded Universe added A LOT of lore to the Star Wars mythos. Dísnéy, of course, threw all that out with their acquisition of the IP in 2012, but that didn't automatically negate the expectations and assumptions that had been part of the fandom for over two decades at that point.
Congratulations. Your Yu-Gi-Oh"Gate Guardian" deck should arrive any day now.
becoming a warhammer fan so you can gatekeep it lol
Star Trek called, it wants to know what happens after 2008.
protect your hobbies, lest it be ruined by tourists and freaks
I'm a strong advocate for gatekeeping gaming and anime.
Just look at the state of the game industry, it's been miss after miss after miss. Our favorite franchises have been driven under by tourists that will call us gamers "talentless freaks, chuds, problematic, etc."
Anime will be in greater danger if we don't put our foot down.
Just like countries need to have borders and people who enforce them, so too must hobbies have gatekeepers who chase out tourists.
Oddly enough I don't mind it with 40k because it gives me a reason to go on a thesis long rant about X or y lore topic
That being said remember kids:
A gatekeep a day keeps the cancer away
Tourists go home. Those that want to be there legitimately will put in the work.
1:49 You missed one!
i feel this way about anime but if i actually had gatekept it i don’t think Vtubers would exist since i’m older then 99% of them.
Well I wish her luck on that warhammer novel thing… there are hundreds of them lol
Based connect
Humans have been gatekeeping for millea, because we know inherently that some people aren't up to the task to enjoy and cherish what you do.
Exclusion happens in nature and we perfected it.
People need to learn to stay in their lanes, or adapt correctly to not get pushed aside.
Proper way to gatekeeping Warhammer:
*Read the wiki
*Pick stuff you like
*Imagine how it reasonably could work
*Read WH novel and bash the author over shit they know nothing about (Like an ICBM torpedo flying slower than a Hellfire missile)
And BOOM you're a respectable member of the Warhammer Gatekeeping Community
She should read Helsreach!
Having been part of the 40k fandom since 2009...yeah, we're having to gatekeep and tell people off. Leave your politics at the door, we just want to paint miniatures and argue about stupid lore bits. We've gotten a lot of refugees from Star Wars come in and cry woke at stuff that's been part of the lore since the 90's and miss the obvious satire. These same "fans" look at the Imperium of Man as a good thing as if they'd be a Space Marine if they were born in the setting, but in reality the Imperium is the most brutal, dystopian and authoritarian regime in human history and they'd be more likely to be a factory laborer who is worked to death by 40. The only justification for it is because hell actually exists and actively wants your soul. Not to mention that the current Imperium is the polar opposite of what the Emperor wanted it to be. Spoilers: he wiped out all religion on Earth including what was left of Christianity. Nearly everyone sucks in the setting, which makes figures like Ollanius, Vulkan, and Ciaphas Cain that much more special.
Warhamner 40k Gatekeep the lore? Does she know?
I heard Wicked was good... but that's as close as I'm going to get because of the behavior of that actress.
hope she reads Ciaphas Cain
I think she'd enjoy the Gortex and Felix novels.
They're pretty fun, and written before all this gender politics nonsense began
Ngl. I noticed that In my country the new wicked fans (specifically the annoying ones) are in majority lgbt (not all ,just majority). And tbey really dont like old fans and now only posts wicked gifs as reactions
When Henry Cavil had to explain why female space marines and custodes was a bad idea. And they refused the sisters of battle under the basis of "too religious." That should have been a sign to FIRE THOSE WRITERS. You wanted female representation. There is a LITERAL SISTERHOOD as female representation as well as billions of Astra Militarum badasses and rogue traders and inquisitors. Hell Imperial Navy has plenty of Lotara-likes.
But no it had to be something that was already an all male faction, just for the express reason that you wanted to ruin something.
This is what it feels like to have your fandoms politicized and culture warred, like Warhammer.
This is why gatekeeping has its place.
Don't know who she is but she sounds based.
Quick question, does she imply we should not praise her when she sings covers?
If you can't explain the full rules of Rouge Trader then you're a fake fan. Seriously though I totally get the annoying tourist thing but the plus side is they're temporary and will wander off to the next thing once the hype dies down.
Im relativly new to warhammer. still catching up with the horus heresy books. but i dont think henry cavill will pull in the same "type" of fan that ariana grande pulls in.
mainly because cavill is a gigantic nerd and a lot of his fans are already familiar with warhammer.
It will be very funny if Lumi ends up reading the Warhammer and not Warhammer 40K
I used to want to share the things I'm a fan of with a bunch of people. Now I want ZERO new normie fans. Gatekeep, everything, ALWAYS.
Gatekeep - how dare you start enjoying the same thing as me? Only i can enjoy it
Tourists that dont get the culture of something are annoying af.
Ya new fan is obnoxious
she gets it
Anyone complaining about gatekeeping is usually the reason the gate is being kept.
Well, I'm complaining about gatekeeping because it's the smokescreen topic that shields your eyes from the actual problem. Which is a company the products of which you like being publicly traded.
"Can I talk about it for a sec?"
🫠 yes limon
She needs to yap