Ammo vest has the same use case every single other ammo increase skill in the game besides support's has as far as i'm concerned. You equip it during the trader to either get ammo from the support or to buy enough bullets to max yourself out, then you just drop the guns, swap to whatever other skill the class has for that slot, pick up your guns and now you have both the extra ammo capacity and the other skill. I really see no reason to ever have it equipped mid wave. The only downside is that if you pick up an ammo box it will delete whatever bullets over your normal max you had, but that is only even relevant in the holdout maps that spam ammo boxes and ammo is rarely a concern in those to begin with.
For me swat when i started playing with patriarch update, swat was a tough choice to use since there was no good gimmicky weapons, only the P90 and kriss wnere considered "special" or atleast just better than the other swat weapons and the problem with swat years ago many actually, was for some reason he´s ammo was expensive for a class that has a rough time dealing with giants ( or waste ammo on ) and weapons that were decently usefull on mediums could cost you the entire dosh money into resupply, with time was fixed and for me swat was just a ranged berserker. some elitist people are still angry for some HRG weapons like the swat nailgun since "swat is not suppost to deal easily with fleshpound" when in gameplay you can´t say its easy sacrificing close to 1 entire mag + grenade to take down a big bully compared to mr demo who just has to shoot twice to kill him. tommy gun existance is for commando rather than swat, acts as a early LMG and can have commando extra damage from hollow point skill but its only real sacrifice comes you can´t kill stalkers in one shot after upgrades but is not a big deal when you have 75 bullets and still dies in 1 headshot. also for some reason in my recent matches i´m starting to seeing very "soloing" teammates playing Swat in suicidal and HoE, there was this dude who was "top" because he only killed trash, my problem with him comes he never helps with giants even scrake and i was firebug but atleast with braincells to know i can´t win on a scrake by myself ( due to he never gived cash i was limited with starting flamethrower and husk cannon to deal with fp and qp ), in one time a scrake spawned and i was spamming help and try to make him look at the scrake, he never did and thx to the medic i was able to drop him but damn man and later on a group of quarters spawned kicked he´s ass, saved him and no even a thanks funny to end this wall of bible, the next map he was on lower top and most of the time almost dying like a idiot for trying to soloing and was only alive because WE saved him funny shit. btw good video you summed up everything swat is good at and can do in good hands.
i don't understand the hater about the Swat having the nailgun, the only weapon to remove Fp and Qp alone other than nail is Riot shield, other weapon take bit much time to end them, where yea, demo kill all zed without trouble, and firebug remove boss alone, so if there is hater, they need focus other perks. Hooo Tommy is a commando weapon too ! I didn't notice at all, i see his strength to remove at least medium with hollow point. I wanna avoid showing the name of the gunslinger, but we see him as a solo SWAT in Support is Broken at 1:53, and i didn't show the entire game, but he was turning around, and when he got a big, he throw them at us since he was turning close to the hold spot, and when i see this i knew we would leave the team die on the boss, so i killed myself to record him. As a old solo player myself, i would take Swat and Gunslinger for boss, to solo the entire game but since i'm unkillable with chaos perks, i never use this two perks for solo. Those player gonna become commun the more they see other player do thing like "Kevin the coward gunslinger". If you play firebug and stay in this channel until the end of Survivalist perks, i will talk about Firebug in 3 video instead of 2 because one will explain why he is from far aways the strongest perks of the game :D
@@Uranium-99 The hate is from people who has bad experience with players like happened to us but theses guys are hot heated and blame the class instead of the root of the problem, like berserker only problem was the healing bat and the extra ranged weapons, they could have done a nerf to damage since was too much but no, thoses big babies decided to nerf everything and use everything as a excuse for and why. as for the same gunslinger guy we are not in the same country but call it like randoms i don´t even remember their names since some are random and if they use stuff that seems like a name out of discord but still thoses people are for some reason silent, ego and 0 teamwork. my mains are commando and berserker ( tank version for teamwork ), firebug is a class i like but play not too often since i like giving support but not by killing most of the time ( not confuse with healing, the game has different time of how to support your team like stun etc etc xD )
Christmas gift from uranium. Now my gf can mow down zeds. She likes too run away but now she’ll know Zeds are the ones that should be running from Swat But I must say , friend recommended the running lv 25 bulldozer perk as a get out of jail free card. Saying that unlimited ammo is a gimmick (g36). And now she likes going vroom vroom sonic , as I’m usually designated Cmmando. Is she throwing with that perk ? On custom HoE difficulty + lobbies ?
Thanks merry christmas to you and your gf :D yes bulldozer is good to save you or your team, my personal choice is unlimited ammo during zed time cause its does lot of damage. On HoE+ or custom, its good to have perks to clean zed trash and medium zed : Swat / Commando but when lot of big join the fight Swat still gonna shoot trash and medium in first place because Gunslinger/Sharpshooter/Support will kill big zed way faster, so its not a bad choice to take Swat in HoE+ and even a good one since he move fast like Gunslinger, like this best duo on those game is Gunslinger and Swat / Commando and Sharpshooter, but i would advise to join a real team in those difficult, because its become really hard when playing with random player.
great vid
Ammo vest has the same use case every single other ammo increase skill in the game besides support's has as far as i'm concerned. You equip it during the trader to either get ammo from the support or to buy enough bullets to max yourself out, then you just drop the guns, swap to whatever other skill the class has for that slot, pick up your guns and now you have both the extra ammo capacity and the other skill. I really see no reason to ever have it equipped mid wave. The only downside is that if you pick up an ammo box it will delete whatever bullets over your normal max you had, but that is only even relevant in the holdout maps that spam ammo boxes and ammo is rarely a concern in those to begin with.
For me swat when i started playing with patriarch update, swat was a tough choice to use since there was no good gimmicky weapons, only the P90 and kriss wnere considered "special" or atleast just better than the other swat weapons and the problem with swat years ago many actually, was for some reason he´s ammo was expensive for a class that has a rough time dealing with giants ( or waste ammo on ) and weapons that were decently usefull on mediums could cost you the entire dosh money into resupply, with time was fixed and for me swat was just a ranged berserker.
some elitist people are still angry for some HRG weapons like the swat nailgun since "swat is not suppost to deal easily with fleshpound" when in gameplay you can´t say its easy sacrificing close to 1 entire mag + grenade to take down a big bully compared to mr demo who just has to shoot twice to kill him.
tommy gun existance is for commando rather than swat, acts as a early LMG and can have commando extra damage from hollow point skill but its only real sacrifice comes you can´t kill stalkers in one shot after upgrades but is not a big deal when you have 75 bullets and still dies in 1 headshot.
also for some reason in my recent matches i´m starting to seeing very "soloing" teammates playing Swat in suicidal and HoE, there was this dude who was "top" because he only killed trash, my problem with him comes he never helps with giants even scrake and i was firebug but atleast with braincells to know i can´t win on a scrake by myself ( due to he never gived cash i was limited with starting flamethrower and husk cannon to deal with fp and qp ), in one time a scrake spawned and i was spamming help and try to make him look at the scrake, he never did and thx to the medic i was able to drop him but damn man and later on a group of quarters spawned kicked he´s ass, saved him and no even a thanks funny to end this wall of bible, the next map he was on lower top and most of the time almost dying like a idiot for trying to soloing and was only alive because WE saved him funny shit.
btw good video you summed up everything swat is good at and can do in good hands.
i don't understand the hater about the Swat having the nailgun, the only weapon to remove Fp and Qp alone other than nail is Riot shield, other weapon take bit much time to end them, where yea, demo kill all zed without trouble, and firebug remove boss alone, so if there is hater, they need focus other perks.
Hooo Tommy is a commando weapon too ! I didn't notice at all, i see his strength to remove at least medium with hollow point.
I wanna avoid showing the name of the gunslinger, but we see him as a solo SWAT in Support is Broken at 1:53, and i didn't show the entire game, but he was turning around, and when he got a big, he throw them at us since he was turning close to the hold spot, and when i see this i knew we would leave the team die on the boss, so i killed myself to record him.
As a old solo player myself, i would take Swat and Gunslinger for boss, to solo the entire game but since i'm unkillable with chaos perks, i never use this two perks for solo. Those player gonna become commun the more they see other player do thing like "Kevin the coward gunslinger".
If you play firebug and stay in this channel until the end of Survivalist perks, i will talk about Firebug in 3 video instead of 2 because one will explain why he is from far aways the strongest perks of the game :D
@@Uranium-99 The hate is from people who has bad experience with players like happened to us but theses guys are hot heated and blame the class instead of the root of the problem, like berserker only problem was the healing bat and the extra ranged weapons, they could have done a nerf to damage since was too much but no, thoses big babies decided to nerf everything and use everything as a excuse for and why.
as for the same gunslinger guy we are not in the same country but call it like randoms i don´t even remember their names since some are random and if they use stuff that seems like a name out of discord but still thoses people are for some reason silent, ego and 0 teamwork.
my mains are commando and berserker ( tank version for teamwork ), firebug is a class i like but play not too often since i like giving support but not by killing most of the time ( not confuse with healing, the game has different time of how to support your team like stun etc etc xD )
Christmas gift from uranium. Now my gf can mow down zeds. She likes too run away but now she’ll know Zeds are the ones that should be running from Swat
But I must say , friend recommended the running lv 25 bulldozer perk as a get out of jail free card. Saying that unlimited ammo is a gimmick (g36). And now she likes going vroom vroom sonic , as I’m usually designated Cmmando.
Is she throwing with that perk ? On custom HoE difficulty + lobbies ?
Thanks merry christmas to you and your gf :D
yes bulldozer is good to save you or your team, my personal choice is unlimited ammo during zed time cause its does lot of damage.
On HoE+ or custom, its good to have perks to clean zed trash and medium zed : Swat / Commando but when lot of big join the fight Swat still gonna shoot trash and medium in first place because Gunslinger/Sharpshooter/Support will kill big zed way faster, so its not a bad choice to take Swat in HoE+ and even a good one since he move fast like Gunslinger, like this best duo on those game is Gunslinger and Swat / Commando and Sharpshooter, but i would advise to join a real team in those difficult, because its become really hard when playing with random player.