Is the X-Mid 2P Worth the HYPE?? | Xmid 2P Review

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @durstongear
    @durstongear 3 года назад +29

    Thanks for the kind review.

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  3 года назад +4

      Happy to do it! I researched a lot of tents before choosing the XMid. It checked all my boxes, and more. I love it. Last tent I’ll need to buy.

    • @mikeadams9036
      @mikeadams9036 3 года назад +2

      Dan, 2 questions - Is the new version of the 1 person a bit wider than the previous version? For the next drop, is there a way to limit how many tents folks can buy? Price gouging by resellers is bound to happen as these are going for double on Amazon and eBay resell.

    • @durstongear
      @durstongear 3 года назад +3

      @@mikeadams9036 Hi Mike. Our next production run of the X-Mid 1P arrives in about 3 months and that will be the launch of the second generation which is going to be more spacious (wider, longer, taller) while keeping the footprint the same size. We'll release all the details of it at the time of the launch, but yes the new version of the 1P is wider.
      Certainly there is a lot of price gouging on, but it isn't really because resellers have snapped them up in the past. The resellers on Amazon didn't actually have tents - they are just computer programs that list popular thing for exorbitant prices and then if someone orders they try to source it for less, which they can't do so the orders get cancelled. We checked our sales history and we had 1 or 2 cases of someone buying 5 which we think was boy scouts, and the rest was sales of 1-2. Most of the scalping on eBay etc is from real owners who realize they can make a quick profit and then buy another when it's back in stock.
      So yes we are going to limit sales to 1-2 tents, but I don't think it'll change much. Our next production run will sell out quickly and then we'll be sold out for a while again. We have been ordering a lot more tents over the past year, but with supply chain backlogs it'll be another year until our much larger runs start arriving. As always, we recommend signing up for the stock notification emails on DurstonGear.com. The tents are no longer sold on Drop.

    • @matthewberry3055
      @matthewberry3055 3 года назад +3

      @@durstongear I've been patiently waiting for months now. Pretty sure I'm not alone either - I hope you have enough in production, because you're sitting on something pretty good here! Top work with the tent mate. Im snaffling one up the instant they appear online :)

    • @tamie341
      @tamie341 3 года назад +2

      @@matthewberry3055 patience my friend, it is a valuable skill ;)

  • @HikeCalifornia
    @HikeCalifornia 3 года назад +13

    This has been my go-to shelter for the last 3 years. My only gripe with it is the size of the footprint -- it can be a little hard to find space to pitch it if you're dispersed camping. That was a tradeoff I was willing to make for the enormous interior and vestibule space, but it's something that's good to know.

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  3 года назад +2

      Yeah, you do have to be a little lucky sometimes finding a good spot. I went from a Six Moons Lunar Solo to this. And honestly, it’s easier to find space with the XMid because it only requires 4 stake points. With Lunar Solo I had some trouble finding good spots due to the rear stake point.

    • @HikeCalifornia
      @HikeCalifornia 3 года назад +1

      @@LostAgainwithJim True! My buddy hikes with the LS and we've had this very conversation. Still, it's a very small complain for what you get. I love this shelter.

    • @Blackbears00
      @Blackbears00 Год назад

      I just got the upgraded 2 person solid mine is a darker green 🥗

  • @kamakafinikamkam
    @kamakafinikamkam 3 года назад +6

    I have the 1p xmid and I'm very happy with it. Nice review!

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  3 года назад +2

      I thought about getting the 1p to save some weight. But my dog takes up a lot of space haha. The extra room is nice when she’s with me.

    • @kamakafinikamkam
      @kamakafinikamkam 3 года назад

      @@LostAgainwithJim Sounds like a good decision. You got a bit more flexibility with the 2p for a little extra weight. Had the 2p been available when I bought my tent I would have sprung for it.

  • @marcusaurelius49
    @marcusaurelius49 2 года назад +1

    I have the XMid 1P on order and I can’t wait.

  • @bumblebeehikes
    @bumblebeehikes 2 года назад +3

    I mostly hammock camp when I go out and just recently upgraded my tarp to a DCF one with door. I have been eying this tent for a while now since I do sometimes go to places where I cannot take my hammock. They are hard to get as you have said in the comments. I really didn't want to drop that kind of money after spending what I did on a DCF tarp but I went ahead and got the crying over with and placed my order for the 2P Pro and waiting for the Feb 2023 delivery. Cannot wait for it to get here to try it out.

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад +1

      My buddy got the Pro in the first round. He took it out on our last adventure (Bear Lakes Basin - videos coming soon). I was impressed with it. Not sure I can rationalize buying the same basic shelter again in DCF, but it is a pretty nice shelter.

    • @bumblebeehikes
      @bumblebeehikes 2 года назад +1

      @@LostAgainwithJim I don't blame you. If I already had one of the regular x-mid tents I wouldn't either. I'm upgrading from an old knock off of a BA Fly Creek. I will be dropping close to 3 lbs off of my base weight. So it was kind of a no brainer for me when I was able to make the purchase. I just hated having to make two big DCF purchase at the same time.

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад +1

      At least you’ve got a great shelter coming your way!

    • @sundaymorninghikes6275
      @sundaymorninghikes6275 Год назад

      @@bumblebeehikes Did you get it yet????

    • @bumblebeehikes
      @bumblebeehikes Год назад +1

      @Sunday Morning Hikes yes, I did get it but haven't had a chance to take it out yet. That might be a bit though since I'm recovering from an injury at the moment unfortunately.

  • @BackcountryExposure
    @BackcountryExposure 3 года назад +3

    Nice! Maybe one day I’ll try one of these

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  3 года назад

      I’d be interested to test it out in some of the places you’ve hiked. See how it holds up in sand etc.

  • @RonsWorld5
    @RonsWorld5 3 года назад +3

    I have the 2P and I love it. I switched to the groundhog stakes as well. Thanks for the great review.

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  3 года назад

      Took mine out to the Utah desert a few weekends ago and had to switch the Vargo sand and snow stakes. The XMid did great! Thanks for watching.

    • @Kevinschart
      @Kevinschart 2 года назад +2

      i use a mix of the two. I stake out the four corners with ground hogs, and i use titanium for everything else.

    • @RonsWorld5
      @RonsWorld5 2 года назад +2

      @@Kevinschart Yes, I have done the same. I normally use the groundhogs on the four corners and the Shepherd Hooks on the vestibules and elsewhere depending on the ground conditions. 👍

  • @stephanmedlin7323
    @stephanmedlin7323 3 года назад +1

    Excellent review my brother. Dan the Man Durston would be proud.

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  3 года назад

      Thank you! Dan actually commented above! I was pretty stoked.

  • @sundaymorninghikes6275
    @sundaymorninghikes6275 Год назад +1

    It's such a phenomenal tent! The material, the setup, the features are all perfect. This tent made me sell my Duplex - the weight penalty for the features provided by the X-Mid is WELL worth it for me. I'm not interested in the Pro as I like the double wall features (just waiting for the star-gazer kit to be in stock).

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  Год назад +1

      I really enjoy it! The features you get for the price are hard to beat! I have to admit, I am interested in the Pro. Two close friends each have one, and I’ve been able to see them up close and compare. The price is the only thing holding me back.

    • @Blackbears00
      @Blackbears00 Год назад

      ​@@LostAgainwithJim Dan said the material for the pro is very expensive I believe he is keeping the cost as low as he can I'm happy with my 2 person solid I don't need the pro. Weight is not my concern

  • @CalvertE98
    @CalvertE98 2 года назад +1

    Great gear review! Keep it up

  • @dannynimmo3052
    @dannynimmo3052 2 года назад +1

    Thinking about trying this thanks for the info. I have the douplex now, just wanna try something new

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад

      The DCF version goes on presale next week. It looks really cool.

  • @tonymallia5142
    @tonymallia5142 Год назад +1

    Great review !! Considering making the plung and getting the pro 2 . Really like this tent and have gone back and forth between duplex and this one. Not every ultralight tent is perfect but I think the pro 2 is checking all the right boxes. I know you have had yours for awhile are your opions still the same? Keep up the great vids !!

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  Год назад

      Thanks! I still really enjoy the shelter. I’ve even been considering jumping into the Pro. Struggling to rationalize the price for what is basically the same shelter, but lighter. Haha. We’ll see what happens.

  • @timg7627
    @timg7627 Год назад +1

    Good review. Well done

  • @dylanagli1577
    @dylanagli1577 2 года назад +3

    Hi there Love the review hope to get my hands on one soon! I will also be camping with my german shepard and was wondering how the tent floor holds up to the dogs paws? I am also wondering what was the matt that you had for your dog? Any tips for bringing the dog along would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for sharing!

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад +2

      I have a piece of tyvek cut to fit her side of the tent to protect the floor. The pad is just a cheap dog sleeping bag I found on Amazon.

  • @theantisocialaquarius2333
    @theantisocialaquarius2333 3 года назад +1

    Love the review, especially with all of the specs! Definitely going to get one as soon as they're back in stock (hopefully early 2022 🤞)

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  3 года назад +1

      It’s a great shelter. Just got back from a three night Utah desert/canyon trip and it was super comfortable!

    • @reneklein3658
      @reneklein3658 2 года назад

      May wanna consider the DCF version, too.

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад

      @@reneklein3658 A buddy of mine was able to get one in the pre-order. I'm excited to compare them in the summer when it ships.

  • @silverback4434
    @silverback4434 Месяц назад +1

    Hi , it is possible to replace the hiking poles by branch who was finding in the forest to maintain the tent ? Thx for your video , interesting product .

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  Месяц назад +1

      I believe you could. If you found one the proper length. I have not tried that method myself.

    • @silverback4434
      @silverback4434 Месяц назад +1

      @@LostAgainwithJim Ok , thank you Jim

  • @philip771
    @philip771 Год назад +1

    Great review, but here in the UK I'm just envious because we can't get it! Well, we can, but only by paying a ton of tax and shipping costs. Awesome tent though; well done!

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  Год назад +1

      Thanks! It’s a little out of date now. The newer models have some changes and upgrades. But I’m still enjoying the shelter!

  • @neelmistry
    @neelmistry 2 года назад +1

    I really really hope I can get one on the next drop. I’ve been trying to buy one second hand for over a year now.

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад

      My hiking buddy has trying too. Lots of price gouging going on! I got pretty lucky when I found mine second hand.

  • @willisblevins3759
    @willisblevins3759 2 года назад +1

    Nice looking tent good video thanks

  • @paulmctaggart3760
    @paulmctaggart3760 3 года назад +1

    Awesome tent, great review

  • @mtadams2009
    @mtadams2009 2 года назад +3

    I like the design but for a tent pole tent it’s on the heavy side for my liking. My Duplex is about 18 oz yes I know it cost way more but it’s also made in the USA employing American. My view if your going to go light go all the way. I am retired and do long distance trips with my dog and we both fit great with all our gear. I do like the way they offset their poles to give you that spacious floor. I just wish they did not make them in China. I can see why people like them but to be honest it’s about the same weight as my old Tiger Wall.

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад +1

      I like the Zpacks stuff, but most of it is out of my price range. The XMid was affordable, and even though I had to make some sacrifices (weight etc) it’s perfect for my needs. Thanks for commenting and I’m glad you’ve found a shelter that works for you!

    • @laaaliiiluuu
      @laaaliiiluuu 2 года назад +2

      Well then go without a tent if you want to go as light as possible. I have never been a fan of the ultra light hype. I am more of a "go as light as it makes sense" kind of person. Don't go lighter if it doesn't make sense.

  • @JeremyOdom
    @JeremyOdom 2 года назад +2

    This is a great tent! I've used mine for several trips over the last 18 months, including backpacking trips in Joshua Tree, Yosemite and Sequoia as well as places closer to home like Mt San Jacinto and San Gorgonio. The only issues I've had are a few small holes in the inner mesh, but those are easily repaired with Gear Aid's mesh repair patches.

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад +1

      I’ve been really happy with mine so far. Seriously considered picking the DCF version today haha. I don’t need it by any stretch, but a 20oz shelter is pretty amazing.

    • @JeremyOdom
      @JeremyOdom 2 года назад

      @@LostAgainwithJim I broke down and bought it, but it took a frustrating hour to complete the purchase because the website was completely overwhelmed.

  • @mikeghost7788
    @mikeghost7788 2 года назад +2

    Waiting for mine to come in a few months. So anyway, instead of trekking poles can I use pre measured poles like a 48" carbon fiber instead. Like Zpacks sells for their tents.

    • @mikeghost7788
      @mikeghost7788 2 года назад

      So????

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад

      You can, however the XMid doesn’t have a set pole height. It’s dependent on the campsite your in. It’s kind of nice being able to adjust the pitch by adjusting the pole length. With fixed length poles you may find your pitch is too taut or not taut enough depending on your site choice. According to some posts I’ve read Durston gear recommends a pole height of 46-47″ but says 48” will work.

    • @mikeghost7788
      @mikeghost7788 2 года назад

      Wow ok, thanks. I was hoping to not need my poles all the time. Thanks for getting back with me.

  • @marcozandbergen7082
    @marcozandbergen7082 2 года назад +1

    Nice review

  • @dougieranger
    @dougieranger Год назад +1

    Greetings from Scotland. That Xmid looks great.

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  Год назад +1

      I am a fan! Debating buying the Pro version too. It’s significantly lighter.

    • @dougieranger
      @dougieranger Год назад +1

      @@LostAgainwithJim Definitely the Pro version Jim. They’re difficult to come by here. Slàinte. 🥃

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  Год назад +1

      I think they’re hard to come by everywhere haha

    • @dougieranger
      @dougieranger Год назад +1

      @@LostAgainwithJim I just ordered the 2P Pro version Jim. It’s due here in Scotland late April or May they tell me. Now it’s a waiting game. Thanks for your help brother. 🥃

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  Год назад +1

      Nice! I’m a little jealous haha.

  • @spuriouseffect
    @spuriouseffect 2 года назад +1

    I can't wait for the 1 person pro version in cuben fiber that's coming out next spring. I just hope it's not 3 hundred dollars more than the original, like the pro 2 is. For that price I'll just keep my 24oz Big Agnes Fly Creek UL1.

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад +1

      My usual hiking buddy bought the 2P Pro. It hasn’t shipped yet, but I’m excited it see it in person.

    • @spuriouseffect
      @spuriouseffect 2 года назад

      @@LostAgainwithJim Are you going to do a video on it?

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад +1

      @@spuriouseffect I'd like to do a side by comparison between the Pro and the 2P.

    • @spuriouseffect
      @spuriouseffect 2 года назад

      @@LostAgainwithJim Awesome.... thanks!

  • @Wondering_Fireball
    @Wondering_Fireball 2 года назад +1

    Jim, how much over lap does the vent flap have over the mesh opening when open and closed?

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад +1

      I’m not sure I understand exactly what you’re asking. There’s no mesh in the vent flap. The mesh is all in the tent inner. When you have a nice taut pitch there’s about 3-4” between the fly and the inner at top where the vent is. The vent opens to about 5-6”. If you do a fly only pitch, there is no mesh at all. I hope that answers your question. If not let me know.

    • @Wondering_Fireball
      @Wondering_Fireball 2 года назад

      @@LostAgainwithJim ok, how much over lap does the vent flap have over the tent when it’s open or closed.

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад +1

      If you’re asking about the overlap of the closure, it’s about an inch wide strip of Velcro that goes the full length of the vent opening.

    • @Wondering_Fireball
      @Wondering_Fireball 2 года назад

      @@LostAgainwithJim, thank you!

  • @randyjackson864
    @randyjackson864 2 года назад +1

    If this tent was $300, I’d buy it now. The 2P Solid is going for $400 to $550 on eBay. Durston website says they will have the 2P mesh in September/early October. The 2P Solid is not available until 2023. Any idea what the Durston price will be Fall 2022? I need mine for October 2022 AT trip. And no, I will not pay $500 for the Solid on eBay.

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад

      I wouldn’t want to pay eBay prices either. I assume the price will be the same in the Fall as it has been, right around $300. I can’t say for sure. I’d shoot them an email. I feel like their customer service is pretty good. I’ve seen some popping up on some the gear trade sites too. With the Pro starting to ship, some folks are letting their 1P & 2Ps go.

  • @Kevinschart
    @Kevinschart 2 года назад +2

    Hi Jim, why do you think the larger "gear junkies" on youtube never even mention this tent? clearly it's a beloved design, but it gets no love on youtube.

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад

      Could be because they are kind of hard to get. They’re released in small batches a couple times a year. It’s not like mass produced stuff you can get at a brick and mortar retailer or any of the bigger online retailers.

  • @kyfisher3662
    @kyfisher3662 2 года назад +1

    How does it go in high winds?

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад +1

      It does pretty good. If you use the two peak guy lines it does a lot better.

  • @Ryan-yi5ro
    @Ryan-yi5ro 2 года назад +1

    What is your dog bed?

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад

      It’s just a generic brand dog sleeping bag we bought at one of the big pet stores. I think it was like $20. It compresses down into an 8L compression sac. Nothing too fancy. But it keeps her warm.

    • @Ryan-yi5ro
      @Ryan-yi5ro 2 года назад

      @@LostAgainwithJim Cool, need one for my pup. Looking at the xmid dyneema 2p pro going on sale tomorrow morning and weighing cost VS one you have. Cheers.

  • @NikhilShahi
    @NikhilShahi Год назад +2

    The thing holding me back from buying this is that you must include the trekking poles weight to get the true packed weight for this tent as the poles are essential to rig this. With the poles the weight approaches 4 lbs and I don't think that is ultra light. And one can get lighter tents cheaper. I don't use trekking poles while backpacking (having done Whitney and the Grand Canyon rim to rim). Am I missing something?

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  Год назад +2

      Sounds like it’s just not the shelter for you. I always carry trekking poles. So it makes sense for me. The poles aren’t added weight.

    • @sundaymorninghikes6275
      @sundaymorninghikes6275 Год назад +1

      Who said anything about it being an ultralight tent? For those who use poles while hiking and enjoy features of a double wall, as well as an amazingly well-thought out design, this is the perfect tent. And $300 for a 2p? While you CAN get a lighter tent at a better price, you're not going to get a better tent at this price.

    • @thewanderingsoul71
      @thewanderingsoul71 Год назад

      @@sundaymorninghikes6275 who said? Durston literally calls his gear "ultralight" on his website and in responses to posts. Maybe he should not put out such hyperbole, especially since his Kakwa is such an average backpack that is not even aesthetically pleasing. The X-Mid is a good design that was copied from Sierra Designs.

  • @hadirosman2983
    @hadirosman2983 2 года назад

    Jim, if you would ever sell the tent, i would love to buy it off you

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад +1

      I’ll keep that in mind, but I don’t see myself letting it go anytime time soon.

    • @hadirosman2983
      @hadirosman2983 2 года назад

      @@LostAgainwithJim thanks Jim !

  • @khuiification
    @khuiification 2 года назад +1

    Rainfly for 3-4 people? Are we talking gnomes? There is no way in hell you can fit 3 let alone 4 people under that tarp haha. I want this tent, but 3-4 people is a bit of an overstatement. If it rains and you have 3 people sleeping under that tent, then two of them will be very wet from the splash. 4 people? Oh lord, one poor fella will have to sleep outside or ontop of the rest :p

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад +1

      The dimensions of the fly only (no inner) are 83" X 100". Most sleeping pads are 20" wide. Average height for men is around 5' 6" (or 66"). The fly can be cinched down almost to ground to limit splash. It may not be comfortable, but in a pinch you could fit four people under the fly.

  • @Socman86
    @Socman86 Год назад

    How is this tent almost 700 dollars now? 😮

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  Год назад

      That’s the Pro version made from DCF. The sil-poly I reviewed here is still around $300

  • @natehoover5266
    @natehoover5266 2 года назад +1

    I had one chance to get one once and I had just bought a vehicle and didn't have the 450 the person wanted. I tried to sell my soul to one guy. He didn't want it.

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад

      Those aftermarket sellers can be brutal. I've heard rumors that there's another drop coming from Durston soon-ish. I know there's a solid wall, 3-season version soon.

    • @natehoover5266
      @natehoover5266 2 года назад

      @@LostAgainwithJim weird enough, a few hours ago I happened to open Facebook and someone was selling one. So I bought it. The people seemed nice and FaceTimed me so I knew it wasn't a scam...so hopefully they come through and send it in the morning. You must be good luck buddy!

    • @natehoover5266
      @natehoover5266 2 года назад

      @@LostAgainwithJim and it didn't cost my soul, just my left arm. I didn't use it much anyway.

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад

      Nice! I hope it all works out! Since making this video I’ve had the shelter out a lot more, and I enjoy it so much! I took out on the Lost Coast Trail most recently and it was awesome even in the high coastal winds.

    • @natehoover5266
      @natehoover5266 2 года назад

      @@LostAgainwithJim I've seen a lot of video or comments of people being out in high winds and rains and it not even budging. I can't wait to try it out. I'm going on a trip in 10 days so it was perfect timing.

  • @yepYup22
    @yepYup22 2 года назад +1

    What I don't get... once you add 2 trekking poles... it's no longer UL .. so for the $ why not just get a freestanding? 🙄🧑‍🦯🤷‍♂️ I don't understand 😂

    • @LostAgainwithJim
      @LostAgainwithJim  2 года назад

      I’d carry the trekking poles anyway. So they aren’t ’added’. Free standing would add the extra weight of the pole set.