The most important thing people don’t mention about this car is the tuneability and handling. This car is so underrated and detuned that a single stage 1 puts you at 310 HP 320 TQ
@@Anonymous______________ dealers can see if your ECU has been flashed, even if you flash it back. So if there is an issue due to your engine being over stressed and they see you used a tune, they will not cover the repair under warranty.
@@caglioso Please do some research before making a comment. APR matches your warranty on stage 1. So whatever factory warranty you have, the tuning company matches it.
The Jetta is still a thing in the US and it got the GTI treatment? So cool! 🤗 I own a Jetta III from 2009 and so far am pretty happy with it. Greetings from Germany. 👍🏻
I'm glad VW hasn't given up on the GLI. However for the bump in price, I think rear seat vents should be standard on the GLI. Would a GTI in S trim be a better value? Off the top of my head, it would be missing the ventilated, memory, & power seat function, moonroof, upgraded audio, DCC, and dual zone climate. However the GTI gets more power, the upgraded digital cluster, led fogs, and small creature comfort such as the illuminated door handle, ambient lighting, heated steering wheel, and rear vents w/ usb c charging. Interesting comparison and probably a harder choice for someone actually cross shopping between these 2 models. The GTI S trim comes very well equipped imo. Excellent review as always.
I always wondered what goes on in vw heads. The gli has a bigger and wider back seat but no air vents. Meanwhile the gti is so small you could literally feel the air coming from the font vents but it has air vents. I feel they should of at least added vents to the backseat and not under the the seats.
Careful, I complained about the lack of rear-seat vents in a different thread and a bunch of fanboi trolls piled on me as if my complaint were unreasonable...
*7:01** "A little bit bass heavy for me."* *And sold! This is what I look for when it comes to sound systems in vehicles and now that I'm eyeing a current gen GLI, this is a major selling point for me and one of the last ones I needed to confirm on my list. Awesomeness.* 😎👍
You're not the best at driving/launching stick cars-and that's fine! But I think it'd be something important to include and help qualify your 0-60mph times with manuals (which generally tend to be on the slow side). Keep up the great content!
I think that the main problem with his launches was that he was trying to launch like you would drive normally in traffic- trying to simultaneously lift off of the clutch pedal while giving gas at the same time. It's easy to be off in your coordination when trying to do that fast therefore you get chatter or the engine bogs down. While I hate doing this in normal driving, he would have probably gotten a quicker time by revving the engine to about 1200-1500 RPMs before launching and then when it was time to go, ride the clutch a little bit. Granted, that's probably not great on the clutch, especially if you do it a lot but you won't get the clutch chatter and bogging that he did. I have to say though, given the bit of a rough start, he got pretty good 0-60 times.
Our first ever long term test car is a 2020 GLI Autobahn and this review is spot on. After a year of ownership and driving many other cars, the GLI always surprises us with how versatile it can be while also being entertaining to drive. The GTI gets all the love but this GLI is so very close to a MK7 GTI I’m driving characteristics it’s hard to tell the difference. Only the seats and interior will tip you off.
I think the GTI has shorter gearing which is still overly long I thing. In stick form, the GTI had a better shifter and shorter clutch in the MK7 I believe.
Woah!!!!!! I Totally Love The Paint Job On This Vehicle, Also I Love The Bright Cherry Red On This Best Looking Sedan, Also I Hope That I Will Afford One Of Those Sooner. But Excellent Review Sofyan.
A very solid review. It was balanced and informative. If I was in the market for this class of vehicle, you provided enough information to help me make an informed decision.
This car is way way faster than 6.7. With the DSG in the mid 5’s is easy to accomplish with the right tires. I’ve blown away some WRX’s with my 19 GLI DSG
You are not blowing away the driver. The WRX is absolutely slower than this car and anywhere apart from a dig it will smoke it. You should check out STI VS GLI roll races. You will be surprised
VW is a very reliable brand IMO, you just need to make sure you service it when it needs to. Now, if you tune your vehicle, it's common sense that it will void your warranty for any electric part that goes bad, or the engine that goes bad as a result of the tune. Most manufacture warranties wouldn't cover repairs, unless you have some other type of third party warranty that will.
I'm hoping they will add some additional features to the 2023 GLI. Would love to see the LED grill bar, the updated touch vent controls (Arteon/Tiguan), updated headlights/blinkers to smart LED tech, rear seat vents/USB, heated steering wheel, and most of all, EA888 gen 4 engine.
Very nice review! I really like that VW gives you a lot of features in this car. It has both heated/cooled seats but also a volume knob. I have a chronically sore back and I likely will never buy another car without heated seats. So that means no Civic Si for me. I also am not a fan of cloth seats. My local dealers are averaging about $4000 over msrp here in central Texas. VW dealers seem to be asking $1000 over msrp at the moment. That means these two cars are, for me at least, direct competitors. I could live with either one of them but I would probably buy the VW.
I have been patiently waiting for this review. Thank You very much! I'm coming from an MK6 GLI 6M so this will be great, I will downgrade (upgrade IMO) the wheel to the 2019-2021 version with buttons and maybe the front bumper. Otherwise, this is wonderful.
The EA888 engine should be the standard gas engine across all VWs. It’s been around for years, has become more reliable and actually gives lots of great torque. My 09 Passat had that engine and was a great car until the repairs deemed the car nonrepairable
I want to get this car but I don't like the lack of physical controls on the steering wheel. Normal buttons were fine, why did they have to add those touch sensitive controls?
See how hard was putting physical knobs VW? If you had this in the GTI/R I would've been interested in that. Let's all pull a Honda and make VW bring back physical controls.
The GLI is a great car for its price, such a shame that Honda kept the SI underpowered, it would’ve been a more solid competitor if it had at least 215-220hp
The Si does have 215-220 hp, Honda underrates it. Savagegeese actually did a dyno on the Si stock proving the hp is slightly higher than stated. Go check the video out
@@drivescene6747 the performance numbers are nearly identical to the GLI: mpg and 0-60. 200 hp to the wheels on the dyno makes sense, 10-15% powertrain loss which puts it around 220 hp at the crank. The big difference is the torque between the two cars.
As an Vw jetta tdi owner I love my car how it drives how comfortable and how it's good on gas. Yeah yeah diesel gate what ever warranty gotta love it. If I had to sell y car & buy a. New 1 it would be an honda civic si 2008-14 only that for price.
My 2019 35th Anniversary Edition is fun to drive, but the drivetrain problems that have happened make me kinda nervous about keeping it beyond the 6 year warranty... EDIT: I think I sounded too harsh in my initial comment. Don't let my experience dissuade you from getting a GLI yourself! Just wanted to see if anyone else out there had the same problem :)
@@thrasherx2k1 Discovered an oil leak last December that the dealer service center patched up, then when I took it in for an oil change in January they told me my transmission fluid was leaking and that the engine had sprung another leak. The parts took 3 weeks to arrive and be installed, but the dealer gave me a loaner and was really apologetic about the parts delays. Mine only has about 12k miles because my commute is pretty short and the shutdowns meant I didn't use it much for about a year. I would like to believe that I maintain my car well and don't push it to the limits, so it's unfortunate that I've had these issues come up recently. Glad to hear yours is holding up well though, and hopefully mine is just the exception. Overall, I still think it's a handsome car and fun to drive, and hopefully I can get a good deal out of it from Carvana or something when I'm ready to part ways with it...
@@ryancantcarry I leased mine and I only owe $17,000 on it and they’re offering me $22,500 at carmax. Crazy how the used car market is so inflated right now. Hope your engine holds up better from now on!
@@thrasherx2k1 Wow that's pretty nuts...and yeah I think I was too harsh in my initial comment. To be fair, if things turn around I'll consider keeping it longer or getting another GLI :)
I'd love to see a HUD on the windshield, vented seats, lockable glove compartment, and way more colors for ambient lighting, oh and wireless charger on the 2023
I had a 1.4T Jetta as a rental while my Si was getting fixed. Man I hated so many things about it....first off, that chime is so annoying, it gave me headaches. The key fob is so cheap looking. The HVAC controls you had to turn the knob like 7 times to put it in cool or hot. The cruise control button was too far from my thumb and you have to take your hand off the wheel to turn it on or adjust speed. No cap less fuel door. Cheap glossy plastics. Horribly small non-recessed cup holders. The list goes on, I am so happy to have my Si back.
Proudly assembled in Mexico! Unfortunately, we do not receive advanced driver-assistance systems in all VW vehicles and the prices are getting higher and higher every single year. In my opinion (from a Golf GTI MK7 owner), it is not worth for the price.
I mean it’s not a bad car at all but I mean for the price point of 32k I think you’re better off going with the new GR86 or BRZ you can even get some mustangs and Camaros for the same price maybe even under that price. The new Elantra N is 33k I think that’s a better choice. The K5 GT and Hyundai Sonata N line are around that price point as well.
The problem is none of those cars will tune like the GLI and still have the comfort and features the GLI does. The K5 and N are 5k more at dealer. The N can’t tune or be Comfy like this. And the SI is a whole leauge below it based on preformance and features specially in USA
No rear seat air vents. No rear seat power outlets. No trajectory on the rear view camera. It's 2022. These things should easily be standard for a vehicle like the GLI. Very disappointing.
I’d still rather keep my MK6 GLI over newer ones. For comparison. MK6 GLI autobahn come with more quality materials and better exterior design! My opinion!
I actually looked at an Autobahn edition that was a flat grey color with the DSG.. was gonna get as second car but someone got it before i could decide.
Bought a brand new GLI back in 2013. By 2017, it was a hot mess and only 50k miles. The engine idled rough because of all the carbon build up, it would stall at stop lights because of the crappy DSG, paint was peeling in areas etc. I took great care of my car, getting all the recommended maintenance and it still ended up being a shit box. Never again VW.
So disappointing how this lacks a heated steering wheel and the 2023 CONTINUES to miss that feature... fight me but I just might give away my 2022 GLI because it lacks this and I live in the colder Canadian areas...
I have a 2019 autobahn and I like my interior a little more. Not a fan of the steering wheel. Also, the handling of the Gli is unmatched with the competition
Tried to order one told me wouldn’t be available til late this year now looking at accords better value for the money and I currently own a 2014 Jetta se
If the infotainment in the GLI is old because of the new infotainment in the GTI, how is the key for the GLI their current key when the GTI comes with a new keyfob? And yes, some of us like all black interior.
Hi Sofyan, I just wanted to make a suggestion when you are trying to launch a car quick for the 0-60 times with a manual transmission. You might want to rev the engine up a little before trying to launch, maybe about 1200 to 1500 RPMs and then when it is time to go, don't be afraid to ride the clutch a little bit when releasing it. It seems like you were operating the clutch and the gas pedal the same as you would let's say, driving in traffic which is certainly the most appropriate way to drive a manual when you aren't trying to get a really fast launch. You'll probably even be able to release the clutch pedal a little faster because the engine RPMs are there to get the car moving faster. The issue that, trust me, we all run into using that same method when trying to launch fast is that it's difficult to coordinate our left and right legs perfectly when trying to give the car gas while releasing the clutch fast- it's very easy to mis-time the process with one leg or the other and then you can either end up in a situation where the engine bogs down and had to recover its momentum or the clutch chatters and you don't get a good grab. We're trying to operate 2 different pedals with 2 different legs moving in the opposite direction from one another and with different amounts of resistance associated with the pedals that they are trying to operate. To make things worse, the more we think about it and try to have a good quick launch, the more likely we won't, at least from my experience. If you rev the engine up a little bit before your launch and ride the clutch a little as you let it out, you shouldn't have the bog or chatter situation and the engine is essentially pre-loaded for your launch. If you do try doing this, it may take some time to get everything dialed in for yourself and the car, it'll definitely take some practice to get it perfect however I think it'll help your 0-60 MPH launches a lot. That being said, you got very respectable times on both of your 0-60 runs. For anyone else reading this that might be looking for exactly how to drive a manual transmission, I want to say this is not something you should do in traffic unless you absolutely have to. Riding the clutch will cause your clutch to wear quicker, Sofyan's method he used here is the way you should normally drive a stick shift. When trying to get started on a hill, especially if you are new to a manual transmission, revving the engine a bit before releasing the clutch and then riding the clutch a bit can also be helpful, even in normal traffic because it makes it much more difficult to roll backwards or to stall when trying to move forward. You should also put your car in neutral when sitting at a light or stopped and release the clutch because leaving your foot on the clutch while sitting can also cause wear on your clutch however I will say, keep a close eye behind you when you do. I came very close to getting rear-ended by a tractor trailer in my Sunfire with a 5-speed and because I noticed it a little late, I was shifting into first gear trying to get out of harm's way before I had a chance to fully depress the clutch pedal and I man-handled the heck out of the shifter to get it into first because of it but it was an emergency situation. Keep up the great work, bud! By the way, I am sooooo happy that VW still offers us the manual on the GLI. [X][X] []
Hey guys! Please do a 2022 mdx type s review🙏 There are a few crappy reviews out there that don’t even come close to the attention to detail and informative reviews you are known for
Buy a 2021 S while you can and save a bunch of money. The only things I wish my S had are the adaptive dampers and the sattelite radio. Neither are deal breakers.
Too bad VW still holds out on making a full-on R version of the Jetta. People will say go get an Audi S3 if you want an R version of the Jetta. The Audi S3 is smaller than the Jetta and the S3 is automatic-only. To me, they're both not even in the same calibur even if they are under the same automotive group. If VW has a set of nuts between their legs big enough against all of their competition with the Jetta GLI, MK8 Golf GTI, and MK8 Golf R, they'd use the same formula if the Golf R and just carry it over in a Jetta R; Jetta GLR/Jetta GRI to be more specific. Does a Jetta GLR/Jetta GRI have to have the 315hp out of the MK8 Golf R? No. It's last 288hp from the MK7 and MK7.5 Golf R would be sufficient, but if they wanted to make it an even 300hp and 290lb-ft of torque, no one wouldn't say no to that. Just do it VW R Division. You'd be surprise at how many people would love an 'R' version of a Jetta. You don't know what the enthusiast market wants in North America. Stop assuming what you think we/they want and get yourself proven wrong.
Wishful thinking. But for VW, producing an all wheel drive sedan version of the Golf R would absolutely cannibalize Audi sales. Has nothing to do with the difference in size or transmission options between the S3 and the Jetta, because if VW offered a slightly larger version of the S3 in a cheaper Jetta most buyers would gravitate toward the Jetta.
@@thrasherx2k1 I believe that they switched to the door glass free-falling and disappearing into the door. That was a great option along with pernicious electrical problems that could never ever be diagnosed and corrected. Lovely.
@@RT-mm8rq It is. Before I bought my 2021 GLI-S, I test drove a 2019 with 130k on the clock. It ran well and there was nothing in the records that indicated it had a carbon cleaning yet.
@@superbirdclub3968 My unfortunate experience comes from a 2015 Volkswagen CC. Until I know for sure there have been changes I will never buy a Volkswagen/Audi vehicle with that 2.0 direct injection engine. The last I heard ( admittedly it's been a while) VW was not going to bring the duel injection engine to North America.
This might not be as sharp as the elantra n or the civic si but the quality and comfort is nicer than both for sure. Add to that the availability of the auto and it is the perfect car for my wife. She liked the "sportiness" while still be a rational daily driver and in canda it's a much better value than the US for whatever reason. Also the kings red looks super sharp with the black package. Add to that we get some better features like back seat USB and heated seats and a few other minor details it was a very easy choice. It was ordered in december and we should be picking it up very soon hopefully.
Are you sure about the back seat USB in the 2022 GLI? I am in Canada as well and very close to pre-ordering (Kings Red, black package...it is sharp), but don't see the back seat USB as a feature. My dealer says there isn't one. Really wish there was.
@@stevehuk902 Yes, I think the only "extra" feature in the back are the heated rear seats, which I believe is only for us in Canada. If I end up getting the GLI, I will also miss the rear vents which I have in my current Mark 5 GTI. Also kind of wish they added a heating steering wheel, especially for us in Canada. Really weird that it is included in the higher trims of the regular Jetta. Regardless, it's still a great overall package. I'm sure your wife will love it.
@@stevehuk902 Congrats! That will be quite the ride! I have always have envied those R owners! I've owned two generations of GTI's and seriously thought about going that way again. But the lack of rear seat room and lack of physical knobs, especially with climate controls, are issues for me. Still love the car, but thought I would try something different this time.
what I'm hearing is lightweight economy MANUAL turbo cars with over 200hp are slow. the fun factor of a manual for me includes speed and good exhaust sound. So, mid to high 6secs without a good exhaust sound isn't fun.
Volkswagen and BMW makes the ugliest air vents on the dash in the entire industry. Saab used to do the same before they went out of business. Also blank buttons don’t help.
This GLI with the new GTI engine wouldve been the optimal configuration. I also hear the clutch and shifter for the new GTI is a bit better than the GLI, but this is a good option for a sporty DD. Also, the Elantra N does have rev-match, and can be turned off and on via the big red button on the steering wheel.
With that much power though, it would be very hard to put it down in a front wheel drive platform. Especially without a LSD. You can always get it chipped stage 1 for around 500$ and no mods and it will give you an excellent hp boost and a phenomenal torque boost with no sacrifice to fuel economy.
The most important thing people don’t mention about this car is the tuneability and handling. This car is so underrated and detuned that a single stage 1 puts you at 310 HP 320 TQ
perfect sleeper build
Vw already has horrendous reliability, so unless you can wrench on it yourself I’d steer clear of doing anything that voids the warranty.
@@caglioso Tuning or modifications do not void your warranty in the United States.
@@Anonymous______________ dealers can see if your ECU has been flashed, even if you flash it back. So if there is an issue due to your engine being over stressed and they see you used a tune, they will not cover the repair under warranty.
@@caglioso Please do some research before making a comment. APR matches your warranty on stage 1. So whatever factory warranty you have, the tuning company matches it.
I absolutely LOVE my 2016 GLI. It’s fun, practical, comfortable, and quite reliable! Great car.
How many quarts of oil to the mile do you get?
@@RLTtizME yeah i would like to know myself. ive both the gti and gli had oil comsumption issues
@@RLTtizME I owned one for 5 years and got it up to 135k miles and it use to burn about a quart every 10k miles
@@jbshp2011 Did the dealer charge extra for that?
over priced boring looking and slow = FAIL .. Elantra N is the king or cheap speed now
I love the "hinges that crush your cargo". So true.
Really enjoy what VW is doing with their lineup lately. Love our ID.4
The Jetta is still a thing in the US and it got the GTI treatment? So cool! 🤗
I own a Jetta III from 2009 and so far am pretty happy with it.
Greetings from Germany. 👍🏻
I'm glad VW hasn't given up on the GLI. However for the bump in price, I think rear seat vents should be standard on the GLI. Would a GTI in S trim be a better value? Off the top of my head, it would be missing the ventilated, memory, & power seat function, moonroof, upgraded audio, DCC, and dual zone climate. However the GTI gets more power, the upgraded digital cluster, led fogs, and small creature comfort such as the illuminated door handle, ambient lighting, heated steering wheel, and rear vents w/ usb c charging. Interesting comparison and probably a harder choice for someone actually cross shopping between these 2 models. The GTI S trim comes very well equipped imo. Excellent review as always.
I always wondered what goes on in vw heads. The gli has a bigger and wider back seat but no air vents. Meanwhile the gti is so small you could literally feel the air coming from the font vents but it has air vents. I feel they should of at least added vents to the backseat and not under the the seats.
Profit over people. That’s what drives corporations
My MKV Jetta has rear seat vents from the center console. It's such a disappointment that newer cars have cost cutting measures.
Lol yeah my Mk5 Jetta has rear air vents and it's not even a GLI or SEL.
Careful, I complained about the lack of rear-seat vents in a different thread and a bunch of fanboi trolls piled on me as if my complaint were unreasonable...
*7:01** "A little bit bass heavy for me."*
*And sold! This is what I look for when it comes to sound systems in vehicles and now that I'm eyeing a current gen GLI, this is a major selling point for me and one of the last ones I needed to confirm on my list. Awesomeness.* 😎👍
You're not the best at driving/launching stick cars-and that's fine! But I think it'd be something important to include and help qualify your 0-60mph times with manuals (which generally tend to be on the slow side). Keep up the great content!
😂 I agree he's not very good at driving manual. That car gets about 5.8 0-60 in manual
He’s above average. He’s got manufacturing ratings or better on other cars. Some cars are harder to launch than others.
@@Hiddentrax he is not very good at driving.... He is good at reviewing cars though.
I think that the main problem with his launches was that he was trying to launch like you would drive normally in traffic- trying to simultaneously lift off of the clutch pedal while giving gas at the same time. It's easy to be off in your coordination when trying to do that fast therefore you get chatter or the engine bogs down.
While I hate doing this in normal driving, he would have probably gotten a quicker time by revving the engine to about 1200-1500 RPMs before launching and then when it was time to go, ride the clutch a little bit. Granted, that's probably not great on the clutch, especially if you do it a lot but you won't get the clutch chatter and bogging that he did.
I have to say though, given the bit of a rough start, he got pretty good 0-60 times.
You've got the best reviews for the vehicles we want to see Sofyan! 💯🙏👍
So…..basically trade in my Civic EX for this? Based on that fuel efficiency with the performance just displayed has me sold! Hopefully soon.
Our first ever long term test car is a 2020 GLI Autobahn and this review is spot on. After a year of ownership and driving many other cars, the GLI always surprises us with how versatile it can be while also being entertaining to drive. The GTI gets all the love but this GLI is so very close to a MK7 GTI I’m driving characteristics it’s hard to tell the difference. Only the seats and interior will tip you off.
I think the GTI has shorter gearing which is still overly long I thing. In stick form, the GTI had a better shifter and shorter clutch in the MK7 I believe.
Woah!!!!!! I Totally Love The Paint Job On This Vehicle, Also I Love The Bright Cherry Red On This Best Looking Sedan, Also I Hope That I Will Afford One Of Those Sooner. But Excellent Review Sofyan.
I had a 2016 GLI SEL and imo that was the best looking one from the steering wheel to the seats and DRL design
Elantra N definitely offers rev matching
I think we all need a VW Jetta R (Like a Golf R but in the Jetta platform)
I agree. But that would eat into Audi “S” and “RS” sales and VW isn’t about to jeopardize that for the American market
A very solid review. It was balanced and informative. If I was in the market for this class of vehicle, you provided enough information to help me make an informed decision.
This car is way way faster than 6.7. With the DSG in the mid 5’s is easy to accomplish with the right tires. I’ve blown away some WRX’s with my 19 GLI DSG
How can you "blow away" a car that also does 60 in the mid to low 5's?
@@TIGFAD because they have to have perfect launches with a stick vs the DSG which is flawless every time.
@@thrasherx2k1 fair enough, so you're blowing away the driver, I guess
@@TIGFAD as long as you have good tires on your GLI and not the stock garbage hankook tires it’s crazy fast.
You are not blowing away the driver. The WRX is absolutely slower than this car and anywhere apart from a dig it will smoke it. You should check out STI VS GLI roll races. You will be surprised
VW is a very reliable brand IMO, you just need to make sure you service it when it needs to. Now, if you tune your vehicle, it's common sense that it will void your warranty for any electric part that goes bad, or the engine that goes bad as a result of the tune. Most manufacture warranties wouldn't cover repairs, unless you have some other type of third party warranty that will.
I'm hoping they will add some additional features to the 2023 GLI. Would love to see the LED grill bar, the updated touch vent controls (Arteon/Tiguan), updated headlights/blinkers to smart LED tech, rear seat vents/USB, heated steering wheel, and most of all, EA888 gen 4 engine.
That would make the car like 37k+
Very nice review! I really like that VW gives you a lot of features in this car. It has both heated/cooled seats but also a volume knob. I have a chronically sore back and I likely will never buy another car without heated seats. So that means no Civic Si for me. I also am not a fan of cloth seats. My local dealers are averaging about $4000 over msrp here in central Texas. VW dealers seem to be asking $1000 over msrp at the moment. That means these two cars are, for me at least, direct competitors. I could live with either one of them but I would probably buy the VW.
I have been patiently waiting for this review. Thank You very much! I'm coming from an MK6 GLI 6M so this will be great, I will downgrade (upgrade IMO) the wheel to the 2019-2021 version with buttons and maybe the front bumper. Otherwise, this is wonderful.
Hyundai does have Rev matching in the Elantra N.
The EA888 engine should be the standard gas engine across all VWs. It’s been around for years, has become more reliable and actually gives lots of great torque. My 09 Passat had that engine and was a great car until the repairs deemed the car nonrepairable
The reliability is very poor
I want to get this car but I don't like the lack of physical controls on the steering wheel. Normal buttons were fine, why did they have to add those touch sensitive controls?
See how hard was putting physical knobs VW? If you had this in the GTI/R I would've been interested in that. Let's all pull a Honda and make VW bring back physical controls.
Why can't I have this in my garage like now?🔥
The GLI is a great car for its price, such a shame that Honda kept the SI underpowered, it would’ve been a more solid competitor if it had at least 215-220hp
The Si does have 215-220 hp, Honda underrates it. Savagegeese actually did a dyno on the Si stock proving the hp is slightly higher than stated. Go check the video out
@@KK-tt6ui I watched the dyno video and I think it’s not accurate. The performance figures don’t reflect the claimed power output.
@@drivescene6747 the performance numbers are nearly identical to the GLI: mpg and 0-60. 200 hp to the wheels on the dyno makes sense, 10-15% powertrain loss which puts it around 220 hp at the crank. The big difference is the torque between the two cars.
@@KK-tt6ui motortrend got 6.1 seconds for the GLI and 7.1 seconds for the Civic SI. That’s not nearly identical at all.
@@drivescene6747 car and driver got 6.8 for the Si not much of difference.
There are none available as of now. Vw still trying to replenish 21 stock and upcharging that one too. Just sad
I don't understand why people give VW bad reliability I have a 2.0 2001 in Jetta 5 speed manual with 299k miles about to hit 300.
A couple of reviewers have chirped third gear. Can we say “torque”? Hell yes!
Hey Sofyan, can you do a video called "The 2022 Volkswagen Passat Limited Edition is the final sendoff German Sedan" please?
As an Vw jetta tdi owner I love my car how it drives how comfortable and how it's good on gas.
Yeah yeah diesel gate what ever warranty gotta love it.
If I had to sell y car & buy a. New 1 it would be an honda civic si 2008-14 only that for price.
Great video as always. *the seats are actually real leather btw.
My 2019 35th Anniversary Edition is fun to drive, but the drivetrain problems that have happened make me kinda nervous about keeping it beyond the 6 year warranty...
EDIT: I think I sounded too harsh in my initial comment. Don't let my experience dissuade you from getting a GLI yourself! Just wanted to see if anyone else out there had the same problem :)
What happened? I have a 19 with 32k miles with no issues so far
@@thrasherx2k1 Discovered an oil leak last December that the dealer service center patched up, then when I took it in for an oil change in January they told me my transmission fluid was leaking and that the engine had sprung another leak. The parts took 3 weeks to arrive and be installed, but the dealer gave me a loaner and was really apologetic about the parts delays.
Mine only has about 12k miles because my commute is pretty short and the shutdowns meant I didn't use it much for about a year.
I would like to believe that I maintain my car well and don't push it to the limits, so it's unfortunate that I've had these issues come up recently. Glad to hear yours is holding up well though, and hopefully mine is just the exception. Overall, I still think it's a handsome car and fun to drive, and hopefully I can get a good deal out of it from Carvana or something when I'm ready to part ways with it...
@@ryancantcarry I leased mine and I only owe $17,000 on it and they’re offering me $22,500 at carmax. Crazy how the used car market is so inflated right now. Hope your engine holds up better from now on!
@@thrasherx2k1 Wow that's pretty nuts...and yeah I think I was too harsh in my initial comment. To be fair, if things turn around I'll consider keeping it longer or getting another GLI :)
@@ryancantcarry I’m jealous of your adaptive dampers lol
How come you don’t mention the Subaru WRX as competition in the same class?
The Elantra N manual has a 'red' rev button on the steering wheel, aka rev matching, also, the seats are 'leather', not leatherette.
Great car, but please add LED front turn signals. Auto trans will knock off about a second 0-60.
I'd love to see a HUD on the windshield, vented seats, lockable glove compartment, and way more colors for ambient lighting, oh and wireless charger on the 2023
Just get an Arteon. That's not the goal of the Jetta.
I had a 1.4T Jetta as a rental while my Si was getting fixed. Man I hated so many things about it....first off, that chime is so annoying, it gave me headaches. The key fob is so cheap looking. The HVAC controls you had to turn the knob like 7 times to put it in cool or hot. The cruise control button was too far from my thumb and you have to take your hand off the wheel to turn it on or adjust speed. No cap less fuel door. Cheap glossy plastics. Horribly small non-recessed cup holders. The list goes on, I am so happy to have my Si back.
Proudly assembled in Mexico! Unfortunately, we do not receive advanced driver-assistance systems in all VW vehicles and the prices are getting higher and higher every single year. In my opinion (from a Golf GTI MK7 owner), it is not worth for the price.
You didn't mention the subwoofer
I would absolutely buy one over the others
"A solid daily driver with some extra fun"
i'd feel more confident pushing over 300 lb/ ft in a VW EA888 than a Honda L15.
I mean it’s not a bad car at all but I mean for the price point of 32k I think you’re better off going with the new GR86 or BRZ you can even get some mustangs and Camaros for the same price maybe even under that price. The new Elantra N is 33k I think that’s a better choice. The K5 GT and Hyundai Sonata N line are around that price point as well.
The problem is none of those cars will tune like the GLI and still have the comfort and features the GLI does. The K5 and N are 5k more at dealer. The N can’t tune or be Comfy like this. And the SI is a whole leauge below it based on preformance and features specially in USA
No rear seat air vents.
No rear seat power outlets.
No trajectory on the rear view camera.
It's 2022. These things should easily be standard for a vehicle like the GLI. Very disappointing.
Trajectory is on the VW models with the 360 camera
VW...dope!
Is there a single customer who wants those touch controls on the steering wheel? Mars an otherwise good interior imo.
I’d still rather keep my MK6 GLI over newer ones. For comparison. MK6 GLI autobahn come with more quality materials and better exterior design! My opinion!
My 2011 Jetta Se was nicer on the inside tbh than this car
The only part working properly on my VW is the check engine light.
you already reviewed 2 manual glis why didn’t you do the dsg??
Itd be cool to customize the strip of color in the front grill
Vw gli is the best no argument
I actually looked at an Autobahn edition that was a flat grey color with the DSG.. was gonna get as second car but someone got it before i could decide.
The last gen infotainment is better than the new one.
How are the adaptive dampers? Not a very high price point to include this feature.
The Civic Si had this in the 10th gen at 26k
I got rid of my 2020 gli and I miss her everyday
Don't like the steering wheel buttons at all
Bought a brand new GLI back in 2013. By 2017, it was a hot mess and only 50k miles. The engine idled rough because of all the carbon build up, it would stall at stop lights because of the crappy DSG, paint was peeling in areas etc. I took great care of my car, getting all the recommended maintenance and it still ended up being a shit box. Never again VW.
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So disappointing how this lacks a heated steering wheel and the 2023 CONTINUES to miss that feature... fight me but I just might give away my 2022 GLI because it lacks this and I live in the colder Canadian areas...
sad that the last generation of petrol powered sport compacts and VW decided to leave the 5cyls for audi's only.
I have a 2019 autobahn and I like my interior a little more. Not a fan of the steering wheel. Also, the handling of the Gli is unmatched with the competition
Tried to order one told me wouldn’t be available til late this year now looking at accords better value for the money and I currently own a 2014 Jetta se
It’s a nice car I just wish it had better durability and reliability
If the infotainment in the GLI is old because of the new infotainment in the GTI, how is the key for the GLI their current key when the GTI comes with a new keyfob? And yes, some of us like all black interior.
Hi Sofyan, I just wanted to make a suggestion when you are trying to launch a car quick for the 0-60 times with a manual transmission.
You might want to rev the engine up a little before trying to launch, maybe about 1200 to 1500 RPMs and then when it is time to go, don't be afraid to ride the clutch a little bit when releasing it.
It seems like you were operating the clutch and the gas pedal the same as you would let's say, driving in traffic which is certainly the most appropriate way to drive a manual when you aren't trying to get a really fast launch. You'll probably even be able to release the clutch pedal a little faster because the engine RPMs are there to get the car moving faster.
The issue that, trust me, we all run into using that same method when trying to launch fast is that it's difficult to coordinate our left and right legs perfectly when trying to give the car gas while releasing the clutch fast- it's very easy to mis-time the process with one leg or the other and then you can either end up in a situation where the engine bogs down and had to recover its momentum or the clutch chatters and you don't get a good grab. We're trying to operate 2 different pedals with 2 different legs moving in the opposite direction from one another and with different amounts of resistance associated with the pedals that they are trying to operate. To make things worse, the more we think about it and try to have a good quick launch, the more likely we won't, at least from my experience.
If you rev the engine up a little bit before your launch and ride the clutch a little as you let it out, you shouldn't have the bog or chatter situation and the engine is essentially pre-loaded for your launch.
If you do try doing this, it may take some time to get everything dialed in for yourself and the car, it'll definitely take some practice to get it perfect however I think it'll help your 0-60 MPH launches a lot.
That being said, you got very respectable times on both of your 0-60 runs.
For anyone else reading this that might be looking for exactly how to drive a manual transmission, I want to say this is not something you should do in traffic unless you absolutely have to. Riding the clutch will cause your clutch to wear quicker, Sofyan's method he used here is the way you should normally drive a stick shift. When trying to get started on a hill, especially if you are new to a manual transmission, revving the engine a bit before releasing the clutch and then riding the clutch a bit can also be helpful, even in normal traffic because it makes it much more difficult to roll backwards or to stall when trying to move forward.
You should also put your car in neutral when sitting at a light or stopped and release the clutch because leaving your foot on the clutch while sitting can also cause wear on your clutch however I will say, keep a close eye behind you when you do. I came very close to getting rear-ended by a tractor trailer in my Sunfire with a 5-speed and because I noticed it a little late, I was shifting into first gear trying to get out of harm's way before I had a chance to fully depress the clutch pedal and I man-handled the heck out of the shifter to get it into first because of it but it was an emergency situation.
Keep up the great work, bud! By the way, I am sooooo happy that VW still offers us the manual on the GLI. [X][X] []
Very Nice Bro! Get Good People!
Did the seats change to leatherette? The original MK7 had real leather on the autobahn model.
May be a good all round sedan but those wheels. VW must get them super cheap.
Hey guys! Please do a 2022 mdx type s review🙏
There are a few crappy reviews out there that don’t even come close to the attention to detail and informative reviews you are known for
Love 💘 the color 😍
Any idea why you can only still build a 2021 on VW website, and the 2022s aren’t available in US yet?
Unfortunately, dealers are still getting 2021 models in, so no 2022 options yet 😔
Buy a 2021 S while you can and save a bunch of money. The only things I wish my S had are the adaptive dampers and the sattelite radio. Neither are deal breakers.
That car is better with the DSG.
Too bad VW still holds out on making a full-on R version of the Jetta.
People will say go get an Audi S3 if you want an R version of the Jetta. The Audi S3 is smaller than the Jetta and the S3 is automatic-only. To me, they're both not even in the same calibur even if they are under the same automotive group.
If VW has a set of nuts between their legs big enough against all of their competition with the Jetta GLI, MK8 Golf GTI, and MK8 Golf R, they'd use the same formula if the Golf R and just carry it over in a Jetta R; Jetta GLR/Jetta GRI to be more specific.
Does a Jetta GLR/Jetta GRI have to have the 315hp out of the MK8 Golf R? No. It's last 288hp from the MK7 and MK7.5 Golf R would be sufficient, but if they wanted to make it an even 300hp and 290lb-ft of torque, no one wouldn't say no to that.
Just do it VW R Division. You'd be surprise at how many people would love an 'R' version of a Jetta. You don't know what the enthusiast market wants in North America. Stop assuming what you think we/they want and get yourself proven wrong.
Wishful thinking. But for VW, producing an all wheel drive sedan version of the Golf R would absolutely cannibalize Audi sales. Has nothing to do with the difference in size or transmission options between the S3 and the Jetta, because if VW offered a slightly larger version of the S3 in a cheaper Jetta most buyers would gravitate toward the Jetta.
So many ads included these days! And they all made compulsory… :(
So the sound enhancer can be turned off completely yes?
Excellent.
You're really good presenting the cars. I hope one day I can be as good as you.
The Elantra N does have rev matching lol
Why are these not on vw's website? (USA)
Is there still LED lights in floor?
Too bad no fog lights amd that bad steering wheel buttons from GTI is now on GLI. I pass and get a Civic Si instead.
Does it stall at highway speeds? I have grown to love that option.
No, that was a early issue that’s been fixed lol
@@thrasherx2k1 I believe that they switched to the door glass free-falling and disappearing into the door. That was a great option along with pernicious electrical problems that could never ever be diagnosed and corrected. Lovely.
@@RLTtizME someone seems to hate VW
@@thrasherx2k1 Your college professors always thought you were a bit slow....and I said NO!
@@thrasherx2k1 its that time of the month for this person
Pristine edge
Will it burn regular unleaded gas?
If this is the same 2.0 TDI engine prone to carbon buildup or the duel injection from Europe?
Yes
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LOL, sooo it's the duel injection from Europe and it to is prone to carbon buildup. 👍
@@RT-mm8rq It is. Before I bought my 2021 GLI-S, I test drove a 2019 with 130k on the clock. It ran well and there was nothing in the records that indicated it had a carbon cleaning yet.
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My unfortunate experience comes from a 2015 Volkswagen CC. Until I know for sure there have been changes I will never buy a Volkswagen/Audi vehicle with that 2.0 direct injection engine. The last I heard ( admittedly it's been a while) VW was not going to bring the duel injection engine to North America.
This might not be as sharp as the elantra n or the civic si but the quality and comfort is nicer than both for sure. Add to that the availability of the auto and it is the perfect car for my wife. She liked the "sportiness" while still be a rational daily driver and in canda it's a much better value than the US for whatever reason. Also the kings red looks super sharp with the black package. Add to that we get some better features like back seat USB and heated seats and a few other minor details it was a very easy choice. It was ordered in december and we should be picking it up very soon hopefully.
Are you sure about the back seat USB in the 2022 GLI? I am in Canada as well and very close to pre-ordering (Kings Red, black package...it is sharp), but don't see the back seat USB as a feature. My dealer says there isn't one. Really wish there was.
@David Morley hmm I may be wrong. I know it doesnt have rear seat climate but I thought it had usb's and now I can't find anything on it.
@@stevehuk902 Yes, I think the only "extra" feature in the back are the heated rear seats, which I believe is only for us in Canada. If I end up getting the GLI, I will also miss the rear vents which I have in my current Mark 5 GTI. Also kind of wish they added a heating steering wheel, especially for us in Canada. Really weird that it is included in the higher trims of the regular Jetta. Regardless, it's still a great overall package. I'm sure your wife will love it.
@David Morley sucks to be the kids. Oh well I have it all in the golf r I've ordered for me 🤣
@@stevehuk902 Congrats! That will be quite the ride! I have always have envied those R owners! I've owned two generations of GTI's and seriously thought about going that way again. But the lack of rear seat room and lack of physical knobs, especially with climate controls, are issues for me. Still love the car, but thought I would try something different this time.
what I'm hearing is lightweight economy MANUAL turbo cars with over 200hp are slow. the fun factor of a manual for me includes speed and good exhaust sound. So, mid to high 6secs without a good exhaust sound isn't fun.
Please stop dumping the clutch. You are destroying these poor cars.
Which model has passenger power seat and ventilating/cooling front seats?
Not the GLI Autobahan. Passenger seat is manual
Volkswagen and BMW makes the ugliest air vents on the dash in the entire industry. Saab used to do the same before they went out of business. Also blank buttons don’t help.
unfortunately the 2 L TSI Turbo engine is not very reliable, it´s good for the first 4 - 5 years and than the problems begins.
This GLI with the new GTI engine wouldve been the optimal configuration. I also hear the clutch and shifter for the new GTI is a bit better than the GLI, but this is a good option for a sporty DD.
Also, the Elantra N does have rev-match, and can be turned off and on via the big red button on the steering wheel.
With that much power though, it would be very hard to put it down in a front wheel drive platform. Especially without a LSD. You can always get it chipped stage 1 for around 500$ and no mods and it will give you an excellent hp boost and a phenomenal torque boost with no sacrifice to fuel economy.
@@gabevillarreal96 GLI comes standard with LSD. It's one of the great things about it.
Well if it’s a Jetta I can guarantee the windshield wipers won’t come on if it’s below 30°
Wait for the EV version.
Nothing at all against Mexico, but if I'm buying a German sports sedan I think I'd rather have it actually made in Germany.......
If not for the touch steering wheel and weird red accents i would get this over the 21.
Frustrating that they give us Americans less quality and fewer options. Screw 'em.
Volkswagen reliability? Forget it !