So lets sum up Macy married Thorne and lost him, than started to develop a great musical career but got cancer that caused her her singing voice, got Thorne back but he was framed for murder, which almost caused her and Sally’s lives, she was happy with him for a while until he left her again and she had to watch him fall for someone else, finally found another love but lost him to cancer, got her father back but he had to leave again, got Thorne back and he fell for Brooke, was finally ready to let go and move on but he made her come back because of the Italy trick she had nothing to do with, left her for Brooke again after months of suffering, she was saved after almost dying and had to pretend dead and start a new life, Thorne wanted her back, when she finally got herself to give him one more chance, the miss understanding happened and he slept with her best friend and got her pregnant while she lost the ability of having kids, and when she finally found love, and her career was going totally take of again, she was murdered by someone she never knew over something she had nothing to do with Did the all the writers just hate this character???
@@orifeldman3213 pretty much. You also missed the parts where she was an alcoholic and where she was arrested for something she didn't do. The writers had it in for Macy, big time.
@orifeldman3213 the BeLieF formula ended up at Spectra and the Forresters assumed Macy stoIe it. She ended up in jaiI and in all the tabIoids for something she didn't do, and the Forresters never apologized. The alcoholism began when Thorne chose Karen over her due to a misunderstanding, and Bill Spencer intercepted Macy's message to Thorne where she tried to clear it up.
@@orifeldman3213 you have it right in the main (with the exception of the belief stolen formula storyline @AnnieO mentioned, and the ever ridiculous Karen/Thorne /Macy storyline. The writers clearly h@ted this character. Meanwhile, there's characters like Brooke who keeps whining about all she's been thru which normally includes her not understanding why Steph never liked her, and her imaginary long term ill fated relationship with Ridge who managed to marry 2 other women besides her in that entire time
KiIIing off Macy this way made no sense whatsoever. Apparently, the writers felt that they no longer knew what to do with Macy after she had been paired up with Deacon, and Thorne was getting involved with Darla and the baby. But having the chandelier fall on Macy and her ending up in a coma was entirely pointless. It added no momentum to any storyline. In fact, it stopped several potential storylines dead in their tracks (like the continued confIict over Little Eric, Macy's rivalry with Brooke including Hope's visitation with Deacon and Brooke taking over Spectra, and Macy's obvious lingering feelings for Thorne who was just about to have a baby with Darla). It even lacked the emotional impact of her first death because it was underdeveloped, poorly written, and had no aftermath. It seemed like a plot decision made out of lack of ideas (and it's no wonder BE decided to leave instead of waiting indefinitely for Macy to be written out of the coma). And yet, the answer is so OBVIOUS. Have _Thorne pu s h Macy out of the way_ of the falling chandelier (it looked like he was about to do it - he even got up from his seat). Let _him_ be the one ending up in a coma, with Macy owing him her life. This one move would have shaken up everything that was just about to settle (and it would have been far more satisfying to watch...). Macy and Deacon's happy marriage. Thorne and Darla's new family. The rest of the plot basically writes itself. It would be one big soapy mess with several children involved. And it would have been poetic justice to have Thorne sacrifice himself to save Macy this time, after Thorne's treatment of her played a part in her first death, and after he faiIed to reach her in time to save her then. I can't believe the writers missed this. Well, yes, I _can_ believe it.
From what I read, Brad planned to keep her character in a coma until he could figure out what to do with her. And that's when BE asked to be released from her contract.
However, Bell keeps making these mistakes with other female, especially attractive, characters. Whether he wanted to or not, he obviously treats everyone except KKL in such a way that at some point they no longer like it. And HT really should have avoided returning. After that her role was completely changed.
Whatever the reason, Bobbie Eakes in 2003 really *_reset_* her life. She relocated with her husband to New York because of AMC. I don't know much about her new character, Krystal, (but it wasn't a good girl character anymore, or was it ??) but it got BE at least two emmy nominations for lead actress (2006, 2010).
“Every time I thought of Ridge’s motherless children, I thought of you..”, good line, but it should have been “my poor motherless grandchildren”, would have been more powerful
Sheila “ I’m not a murderer” but killed several people. No way Massimo is the kids father. Sheila probably cut that baby out of a pregnant woman and left her to die. She’s disgusting.
@Pete_Murphy_Love Are you lost or just ignorant?! Sheila "murdered several people", whom? By all accounts she only offed one which was via killer bees (Lance), any others wouldn't be considered murders. 🤔 One-night stands have produced multiple children IRL and in soapworld. Sheila always wanted a son of her own to raise, and her daughter with Massimo worked in her favor in this storyline.
The messed up writing/ life on B&B. A couple can cut their honeymoon in Mexico short to rush back to LA for a business coup, but a character that supposedly lives and works in LA can't be shown rushing to the hospital when his sister had had emergency surgery. Even worse, his parents do not even mention him.
Yes, but the show is nonsense a tthis point so it really doesn't count. Why is Sheila, lifetime serial killer, working at a restaurant serving people food?
@@annieo6527 Why don't they write a storyline, where Sally, Macy and C.J. fight Brooke and Ridge from taking over Spectra. Some bussines storyline will be good at this time. But they choose to spend almost a year about who's the daddy storyline 😢
Im just starting to wonder when FInn was born to Sheila now bc Steffy is like 10 now and there's been no mention of Sheila having a son unless this child is.
Pity that Brooke haters are still whining about her, but I'm guessing that has played a part in her longevity because after all at least you're talking. Might want to focus on the positive you like about B&B, and if you can't, IDK why not watch something else?
@@untilwemeetagain2010pity that the Brooke stans are still whining about people making fun of her....might want to go on other message boards, instead on here, where 90% of the people don't like Brooke!😂🥱
@@untilwemeetagain2010”might want to focus on the positive and if you can’t watch something else” why aren’t you telling that to all those who complain about Macy, Steph, and even Taylor when she was on the show? How convenient yall are allowed to whine and complain about them all the time and it’s no big deal even though you can watch another show, but if someone dares say something bad about Brooke and it’s a crime? Can yall be anymore hypocritical
@annlavine3676 Most people on here would agree that Sheila is a better mother than Brooke tho. And any baby would be better off without Crazy Ann as a mother from your comments dearie!
Frisco Jones singing to Heather Webber, lol Outside of Finn, has Sheila's other children been on here? Sheila is hardly a vicitm. Chemistry was there between Nick and Sugar. Nick calling Ridge, Rigid, lol.
Sheila with Massimo's baby. This just gets more ridiculous by the minute. You have other ladies on here (Macy i.e.) who can't get pregnant no matter how hard they try. Then other women (Sheila i.e.), who seem to get pregnant as easily as entering a room with a man. Dumb storyline. Didn't look like Sheila was carrying anything under her coat before, she sure was moving around pretty good all the while holding a baby. Then all of a sudden, voila, there's a baby lol.
If I am not mistaken, Sheila is only on screen for 9 episodes in 2003, so I don't really think you can blame that on Sheila. I don't think we can blame good girl Samantha either, but she will get more family members soon.
Macy is finally out of the show. Her presence has been unbearable after her character had been ruined during this storyline. She was nothing but a vindictive and acid woman who destroyed a child's family
She was probably too talented and too attractive. Bell eventually eliminates any competition for KKL. The Deacon/Macy story would have had 10x more potential than the same old boring soup with Brooke and Ridge.
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So lets sum up
Macy married Thorne and lost him, than started to develop a great musical career but got cancer that caused her her singing voice, got Thorne back but he was framed for murder, which almost caused her and Sally’s lives, she was happy with him for a while until he left her again and she had to watch him fall for someone else, finally found another love but lost him to cancer, got her father back but he had to leave again, got Thorne back and he fell for Brooke, was finally ready to let go and move on but he made her come back because of the Italy trick she had nothing to do with, left her for Brooke again after months of suffering, she was saved after almost dying and had to pretend dead and start a new life, Thorne wanted her back, when she finally got herself to give him one more chance, the miss understanding happened and he slept with her best friend and got her pregnant while she lost the ability of having kids, and when she finally found love, and her career was going totally take of again, she was murdered by someone she never knew over something she had nothing to do with
Did the all the writers just hate this character???
@@orifeldman3213 pretty much. You also missed the parts where she was an alcoholic and where she was arrested for something she didn't do. The writers had it in for Macy, big time.
I know, its terrible...so tragic even for a soap!
@@annieo6527 what happened there? I don’t know this story
@orifeldman3213 the BeLieF formula ended up at Spectra and the Forresters assumed Macy stoIe it. She ended up in jaiI and in all the tabIoids for something she didn't do, and the Forresters never apologized.
The alcoholism began when Thorne chose Karen over her due to a misunderstanding, and Bill Spencer intercepted Macy's message to Thorne where she tried to clear it up.
@@orifeldman3213 you have it right in the main (with the exception of the belief stolen formula storyline @AnnieO mentioned, and the ever ridiculous Karen/Thorne /Macy storyline.
The writers clearly h@ted this character.
Meanwhile, there's characters like Brooke who keeps whining about all she's been thru which normally includes her not understanding why Steph never liked her, and her imaginary long term ill fated relationship with Ridge who managed to marry 2 other women besides her in that entire time
I love Nick, he can make light in any situation!!!
Love it so much, Jack is excellent in the role
KiIIing off Macy this way made no sense whatsoever. Apparently, the writers felt that they no longer knew what to do with Macy after she had been paired up with Deacon, and Thorne was getting involved with Darla and the baby. But having the chandelier fall on Macy and her ending up in a coma was entirely pointless. It added no momentum to any storyline. In fact, it stopped several potential storylines dead in their tracks (like the continued confIict over Little Eric, Macy's rivalry with Brooke including Hope's visitation with Deacon and Brooke taking over Spectra, and Macy's obvious lingering feelings for Thorne who was just about to have a baby with Darla). It even lacked the emotional impact of her first death because it was underdeveloped, poorly written, and had no aftermath.
It seemed like a plot decision made out of lack of ideas (and it's no wonder BE decided to leave instead of waiting indefinitely for Macy to be written out of the coma). And yet, the answer is so OBVIOUS.
Have _Thorne pu s h Macy out of the way_ of the falling chandelier (it looked like he was about to do it - he even got up from his seat). Let _him_ be the one ending up in a coma, with Macy owing him her life. This one move would have shaken up everything that was just about to settle (and it would have been far more satisfying to watch...). Macy and Deacon's happy marriage. Thorne and Darla's new family. The rest of the plot basically writes itself. It would be one big soapy mess with several children involved. And it would have been poetic justice to have Thorne sacrifice himself to save Macy this time, after Thorne's treatment of her played a part in her first death, and after he faiIed to reach her in time to save her then.
I can't believe the writers missed this. Well, yes, I _can_ believe it.
Macy was written off because this was when Bobbi accepted another role and another soap opera.
@@seanthomas3091 That's where she went to. That's not why she was written off.
Great post! I agree with ALL of it including your idea of how it should've played out instead.
B&B is much kinder to its male characters.
KKL must be very insecure
Macy came back from the dead almost for nothing, just like Taylor when they ruined her character when she came back from the dead.
Yep, they ruined Taylor's character when she came back, although I will always root for her!
Taylor was never ruined, she just couldn't reconcile being in a world that moved on without her 😓😢
Nicky proves he is a meta character by actually making fun of the Forrester brothers' names (haven't we all?). It is pretty funny, though.
😂 Right. All the joke about the names was funny
For once, he is a bit of fun😁
So they brought Macy back from the dead to drop a light fixture on her? Ugh.
lol
Right? But yet bring Sheila back. This storyline with Ridge being kidnapped is like watching an episode of Survivor. Fast forward away!
LMAO @ Nick making fun of Ridge and Thorne's names 🤣
3:57 I wish we had more moments of Ridge & Nick just bantering (not fighting) 😅
11:19 Sheila should ask him to pick a son to survive, to spice things up 🤭
Bell didn't fire Macy, Bobbie Eakes had signed a contract with ABC after her contact was up and she went to All My Children after these episodes.
She decided to go to AMC when she saw her storyline on B&B was going nowhere. Brad essentially forced her out.
I will miss her, she was always a favorite especially back in the beginning with Thorne
From what I read, Brad planned to keep her character in a coma until he could figure out what to do with her. And that's when BE asked to be released from her contract.
However, Bell keeps making these mistakes with other female, especially attractive, characters. Whether he wanted to or not, he obviously treats everyone except KKL in such a way that at some point they no longer like it. And HT really should have avoided returning. After that her role was completely changed.
Whatever the reason, Bobbie Eakes in 2003 really *_reset_* her life. She relocated with her husband to New York because of AMC. I don't know much about her new character, Krystal, (but it wasn't a good girl character anymore, or was it ??) but it got BE at least two emmy nominations for lead actress (2006, 2010).
“Every time I thought of Ridge’s motherless children, I thought of you..”, good line, but it should have been “my poor motherless grandchildren”, would have been more powerful
LOL they are still Forresters as Mossimo was only a grandparent by name in here.
Sheila “ I’m not a murderer” but killed several people. No way Massimo is the kids father. Sheila probably cut that baby out of a pregnant woman and left her to die. She’s disgusting.
@Pete_Murphy_Love Are you lost or just ignorant?! Sheila "murdered several people", whom? By all accounts she only offed one which was via killer bees (Lance), any others wouldn't be considered murders. 🤔 One-night stands have produced multiple children IRL and in soapworld. Sheila always wanted a son of her own to raise, and her daughter with Massimo worked in her favor in this storyline.
Sheila is just as crazy 😂😅😊😅
This storyline of Sheila and kidnapping Ridge or whomever is involved so glad to skip it so boring
Exactly the same thing I was doing 😅😅
@nancytautuaa8996 GURL, You are the one whose boring. Long live queen Sheila!!!!!!
Where's CJ?
I'd like to know too...
The messed up writing/ life on B&B. A couple can cut their honeymoon in Mexico short to rush back to LA for a business coup, but a character that supposedly lives and works in LA can't be shown rushing to the hospital when his sister had had emergency surgery. Even worse, his parents do not even mention him.
I thought Nick was going to sing Sugar by The Archies
Deacon marries Sheila way later on
he lost his marbles
Oh really??? Wow! I don't remember that.
Yes, but the show is nonsense a tthis point so it really doesn't count. Why is Sheila, lifetime serial killer, working at a restaurant serving people food?
They brought Macy back just to kill her off again
Because the actress refused to renew her contract and made a contract with ABCs All My Children soap.
@@trfandom250Brad put Macy in a coma and had no plan for the character.
She should have stayed with Lorenzo
@@annieo6527 Why don't they write a storyline, where Sally, Macy and C.J. fight Brooke and Ridge from taking over Spectra. Some bussines storyline will be good at this time.
But they choose to spend almost a year about who's the daddy storyline 😢
1:41 Nicky leave her name alone 😂
Massimo daughter Diana Carter
Im just starting to wonder when FInn was born to Sheila now bc Steffy is like 10 now and there's been no mention of Sheila having a son unless this child is.
Massimo that was in dispair not having an air or a family, well he has a bunch of them now
Lol. Zero to 3 kids in about a year. Lol. Does he ask Sheila for a paternity test? 😂
Who else guessed the archies?
Brooke me me Logan, a flop character and more from start to finish!😜
Pity that Brooke haters are still whining about her, but I'm guessing that has played a part in her longevity because after all at least you're talking. Might want to focus on the positive you like about B&B, and if you can't, IDK why not watch something else?
@@untilwemeetagain2010pity that the Brooke stans are still whining about people making fun of her....might want to go on other message boards, instead on here, where 90% of the people don't like Brooke!😂🥱
@@untilwemeetagain2010”might want to focus on the positive and if you can’t watch something else” why aren’t you telling that to all those who complain about Macy, Steph, and even Taylor when she was on the show? How convenient yall are allowed to whine and complain about them all the time and it’s no big deal even though you can watch another show, but if someone dares say something bad about Brooke and it’s a crime? Can yall be anymore hypocritical
The producers only had Macy back to clean up Brooke’s character. Bell is horrible Producer
@@untilwemeetagain2010 the producer lost a lot very characters to clean up Brooke’s character. Myself I don’t the current show.
So the marone family is growing more and more
any baby would be better off without sheila as a mother
@annlavine3676 Most people on here would agree that Sheila is a better mother than Brooke tho. And any baby would be better off without Crazy Ann as a mother from your comments dearie!
Frisco Jones singing to Heather Webber, lol Outside of Finn, has Sheila's other children been on here? Sheila is hardly a vicitm. Chemistry was there between Nick and Sugar. Nick calling Ridge, Rigid, lol.
Oh man I felt bad for Sally and Decan in this episode
Thorne and ridge are funny names 😆poor sally having to go through this again they couldn’t even have cj in these episodes either 😒🙄
Sheila with Massimo's baby. This just gets more ridiculous by the minute. You have other ladies on here (Macy i.e.) who can't get pregnant no matter how hard they try. Then other women (Sheila i.e.), who seem to get pregnant as easily as entering a room with a man. Dumb storyline. Didn't look like Sheila was carrying anything under her coat before, she sure was moving around pretty good all the while holding a baby. Then all of a sudden, voila, there's a baby lol.
In the current season, im wondering if Finn is a Marone that Sheila passed off as Jack's baby?? Hmmm
This is sad,macy and her family nwas getting close again.
Then this happens
usually when someone leaves the show a new person enters/ so we lose Macy for Sheila? What? not good
If I am not mistaken, Sheila is only on screen for 9 episodes in 2003, so I don't really think you can blame that on Sheila.
I don't think we can blame good girl Samantha either, but she will get more family members soon.
@ hope so
Can’t stand her
@@annlavine3576 I can't stand Samantha either, Sheila comes back later so get a grip hunny! 🤣🤣
Macy is finally out of the show. Her presence has been unbearable after her character had been ruined during this storyline. She was nothing but a vindictive and acid woman who destroyed a child's family
totally agree!
This time line is icky like how much younger is Finn than stuffy she’s every bit of 9 yrs old here and Sheila ain’t had Finn
The timeline loosely matches up, Finn was born sometime before Sheila and Erica returned to LA.
Finn? Li? Jack? Poppy?Oh gosh... Clearly weak and pointless links with the old seasons just created to keep alive a dying show.
Marone Brothers
Macy Alexander, a flop character from start to finish
Macy was never a flop!
In "untilweemeetagain's" words: concentrate on the positive things, or watch something else.....😂🥱sarcasm on!
No the problem was she _didn't_ flop. U p and d o w n o n B r a d ' s 1 a p l i k e K K L .
Brooke- Biggest flop of B&B
She was probably too talented and too attractive. Bell eventually eliminates any competition for KKL. The Deacon/Macy story would have had 10x more potential than the same old boring soup with Brooke and Ridge.