Cheers dude I’ve seen your video too so you will know how much of a difference this mod makes it’s great. Yeah joys of eBay in the uk can get a block of cast straight to the front door.
Hey Joe.. great video thank you. i just like to suggest that you place your dial indicator base on the surface plate together with the work you are measuring or comparing.
Another worthwhile mod Joe, I did the same a couple of months ago when I got my QCTP and very pleased I did. Of course not having a mill I had to do mine in the 4 jaw on the lathe, which was fun. Just one suggestion, I made up a new centre bolt with a side handle so I don't have to find a spanner whenever I want to rotate the toolpost.
Yeah so far like you say seems like a good mod to do. And I think I may still have a handle kicking about so will have to try it and see how it goes. 👍
This is where something like 3d printing could help to rapidly test if your part measurements etc are right. Most printers these days can get to within 0.1mm resolution so its great for testing out holes and heights etc.
A handy tip: layout your cut lines and holes while the part is on the surface plate before putting it in the vise. A prick punch will give you a great start for center drilling to start your holes accurately.
Joe, I think it was the surface plate moving and because you had the magnetic 🧲 part on a different surface it registered more then it would have if the instrument as well as the work these were both on the surface plate… I might be wrong great work brother keep it up 👍
Nice to see your use of Safety Glasses, You only get one pair of eyes, I am jealous of your granite block, that is a good addition, a good machining practice you might consider when you drill, centre drill first, even if you just spot it, there is a good chance your drill will wander a bit if you don't.
Yeah I was so in the zone didn’t even think to centre drill first. Luckily enough the part fitted on the top slide perfect but if the tolerance needed to be smaller I may not have got away with it. 👍
Thx good vid. Cast Iron: What do you need to pay attention to? Other rake angle than for steel? Are special cast iron drilling and cutting tools a must or does it not matter?
Hi so general I have found cast machines very easy and I make no special precautions in regards to tooling. Something to be careful with thou is make sure to cover your bed ways and give the machine a good clean down after as the machined cast can act as an abrasive on the bed ways.
So the bolts securing it down are the same diameter bolts as original just slightly longer. Of the top of my head I think they are m5. And I used an 8.5mm drill but and tapped to m10 to secure QCTP to the riser block
Hi there Festive jelly. I believe the tool post I bought direct from warco. I liked the fact they always seem to have tool holders in stock and you can be them singular if you want.
Hi there I got this through EBay. I’ll add a link to the exact one I bought. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/70mm-Cast-Iron-Square-Bar-1-to-12-Lengths-Meehanite-Bar-Free-Postage-/333528913486?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
Psssst. now you can drill holes under power feed. don't tell anyone, let's just let be our secret. shhhhh.. I didn't use any capitals to keep anyone from hearing.
Also, as you are picking up tips, you might see Joe Pieczynski on his channel, he is a good machinist, no, actually he is a very good machinist, but you will have to,,,, do as he says and not do as he does. For example on this video....... ruclips.net/video/Z-dqOi_z5bk/видео.html at about 3 mins he will tell you the importance of safety and the need to wear safety glasses, but look, they are std prescription glasses with no side guards, in another video he puts his finger in a hole while the m/c is still turning. Don't get me wrong, I like this guy and I am subscribed to his channel, your safety is the most important thing :-)
Joe’s channel is really great I to am subscribed and I know what you mean his tips are great but occasionally he does do some dodgy stuff regarding his hands 😁
That is not an upgrade. If you take apart the compound now you can't make cones anymore, that is called a downgrade. Keep your compound, make it more solid and rigid and that will be a real upgrade.
although the warco is definitely not a tool room lathe and the S&M is a awesome machine I would ten times rather have the warco with all the upgrades Joe has done. A myford with a quick change gearbox is a much better option on the S&B
You can also extend the headstock with a plate. And mod on an extra bearing. 2 behind the chuck would be even more sturdy.
Have done my super mini and whole heartily agree.
Great upgrade. Lucky to find that piece of cast iron in that size. A lot harder for me to find down under. Cheers
Cheers dude I’ve seen your video too so you will know how much of a difference this mod makes it’s great. Yeah joys of eBay in the uk can get a block of cast straight to the front door.
Hey Joe.. great video thank you. i just like to suggest that you place your dial indicator base on the surface plate together with the work you are measuring or comparing.
I was thinking the same thing he didn't get a honest compare
Joe, thoroughly enjoyed this, cheers from the US, Paul
Another worthwhile mod Joe, I did the same a couple of months ago when I got my QCTP and very pleased I did. Of course not having a mill I had to do mine in the 4 jaw on the lathe, which was fun. Just one suggestion, I made up a new centre bolt with a side handle so I don't have to find a spanner whenever I want to rotate the toolpost.
Yeah so far like you say seems like a good mod to do. And I think I may still have a handle kicking about so will have to try it and see how it goes. 👍
This is where something like 3d printing could help to rapidly test if your part measurements etc are right. Most printers these days can get to within 0.1mm resolution so its great for testing out holes and heights etc.
That is pretty badass as far as mini lathe mods go. I think you smacked it out of the park with this one. 👍
Thank you, this is a mod I’ve been meaning to do for a while and I can say 100% well worth doing for increased rigidly on the lathe.
This is also a good upgrade for a WM280 also.
I've long since given up parting on my wm180. Might well try this update.
A handy tip: layout your cut lines and holes while the part is on the surface plate before putting it in the vise. A prick punch will give you a great start for center drilling to start your holes accurately.
Yeah that’s a great tip always nice to have a visual aid when working.
thanks Joe.... so you used existing holes in the carriage bed?
Yes designed around the original holes that mounted the compound so no extra holes where needed.
I love The Cuttin whiT The solid Tool Poost
Joe, I think it was the surface plate moving and because you had the magnetic 🧲 part on a different surface it registered more then it would have if the instrument as well as the work these were both on the surface plate… I might be wrong great work brother keep it up 👍
Thanks for the advise next time I’ll try both methods and see what difference I get thank you. 👍
Nice to see your use of Safety Glasses, You only get one pair of eyes, I am jealous of your granite block, that is a good addition, a good machining practice you might consider when you drill, centre drill first, even if you just spot it, there is a good chance your drill will wander a bit if you don't.
Yeah I was so in the zone didn’t even think to centre drill first. Luckily enough the part fitted on the top slide perfect but if the tolerance needed to be smaller I may not have got away with it. 👍
Another good video Joe and it’s just what I want to do I noticed you have used cast iron does it have to be cast or can I use steel as in mild.
Wouldn't it be a good sturdy solution to install a biger QCTP like the chinese AXA type? Thanks for your video.
Most tapers we cut can be done with a nice clean file
Thx good vid. Cast Iron: What do you need to pay attention to? Other rake angle than for steel? Are special cast iron drilling and cutting tools a must or does it not matter?
Hi so general I have found cast machines very easy and I make no special precautions in regards to tooling. Something to be careful with thou is make sure to cover your bed ways and give the machine a good clean down after as the machined cast can act as an abrasive on the bed ways.
15:31 Try flipping your parting tool and reversing lathe rotation.
well done
Hi Joe, what size drill did you use to drill into the block, and what size bolts did you use the secure the block to the plate?
So the bolts securing it down are the same diameter bolts as original just slightly longer. Of the top of my head I think they are m5. And I used an 8.5mm drill but and tapped to m10 to secure QCTP to the riser block
Why was the aluminium welding rod used?
When trying to square up stock it is good to put something like welding rod or ball bearing in moveable jaw to counteract the not square sided.
@@MachiningwithJoe keep up the vids man😀 I’m getting a wm180 in a few weeks
Where did you get the tool post from? They seem to stock many versions.
Hi there Festive jelly. I believe the tool post I bought direct from warco. I liked the fact they always seem to have tool holders in stock and you can be them singular if you want.
@@MachiningwithJoe I ended up buying one that was similar from amazon. Just need to mill a recess in there now.
Sweet! Thanks for sharing!
Your quite welcome hope it was useful to you 👍
Hello buddy. What was the final dimensions of the cast iron block please
Next time im in the shop I’ll measure it for you 👍
Hi buddy did you get the final dimensions
Sorry for taking so long to get back to you so the block is
70mm x70mm and 36mm tall hope that hopes after such a long wait.
Many thanks
where did you get that block from? I can only get aluminium one in that size.
Hi there I got this through EBay. I’ll add a link to the exact one I bought.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/70mm-Cast-Iron-Square-Bar-1-to-12-Lengths-Meehanite-Bar-Free-Postage-/333528913486?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
@@MachiningwithJoe thx
For parting of I made an extra rear toolpost. ruclips.net/video/D7DU-YlyQ50/видео.html
But a replacement for the topslide is one of the next projects.
Yeah great idea. I saw a video that Artisan Makes did recently where he did the same seems to give good results.
@@MachiningwithJoe It cuts like hell :-)
Why cast iron and not mild steel
I think the cast iron is meant to dampen vibrations more so I’m led to believe.
Your rotary table seems a bit out of scale with the milling machine. What is the story there?
I’ll be honest with you Mark haven’t used it yet, it come with the mill when I bought it but haven’t found a home for it so left it there.
Don't look straight at the camera ignore it and just look around
1000 th sub
Hey john thank you so much for that milestone. welcome to the community hope you enjoy the content.
Psssst. now you can drill holes under power feed. don't tell anyone, let's just let be our secret. shhhhh.. I didn't use any capitals to keep anyone from hearing.
Also, as you are picking up tips, you might see Joe Pieczynski on his channel, he is a good machinist, no, actually he is a very good machinist, but you will have to,,,, do as he says and not do as he does. For example on this video....... ruclips.net/video/Z-dqOi_z5bk/видео.html at about 3 mins he will tell you the importance of safety and the need to wear safety glasses, but look, they are std prescription glasses with no side guards, in another video he puts his finger in a hole while the m/c is still turning. Don't get me wrong, I like this guy and I am subscribed to his channel, your safety is the most important thing :-)
Joe’s channel is really great I to am subscribed and I know what you mean his tips are great but occasionally he does do some dodgy stuff regarding his hands 😁
That is not an upgrade. If you take apart the compound now you can't make cones anymore, that is called a downgrade. Keep your compound, make it more solid and rigid and that will be a real upgrade.
Joe ! the weakest part is the mini lathe, get yourself a Smart & Brown model L .Regards Del.
But they are 80 years old buddy, even if you can still find one in good order.
although the warco is definitely not a tool room lathe and the S&M is a awesome machine I would ten times rather have the warco with all the upgrades Joe has done. A myford with a quick change gearbox is a much better option on the S&B