Vampires with Helstorm Rocket Batteries
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
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"And we can't heal them because they're not dead..." Well that certainly does give us some options, and does make the artillery crew mighty nervous.
Imagine skaven necromancer, that would be perfect combination. Rattling guns and jezzails to turn skavenslaves into skavundead then healing and reviving them with the lore of vampires lmaooooo
Exactly why Vampire Coast is the better option.
@@dubuyajay9964 IIRC Vampire Coast can only raise those that died at sea. That's pretty much why you only ever see them with naval artillery.
@@ktvindicare Yes, but can they be healed by Vampire Counts? Which they can't do with the living.
"WHY DO THE MEN ON THE ROCKETS KEEP FALLING OVER?"
"sir, they're dying"
"WHY IS THIS A PROBLEM?"
Banshee called 'Witch Hunter' is brilliant
Faith, calcium, and gunpowder
Witch, Hunter
Arkhan shoud've known better than to challenge the prince and Emperor.
Summon the --Mortarchs-- *Mortals* !
Summon the Immortal Counts!
The outpost mechanic was frankly a great one to add to WH3.
Got Karl Franz commanding a army of Steam Tanks, Hellstorm, Gunners and Ironbreakers, its beautiful.
The one thing that's really pissing me off is that you can't seem to get rattling guns. I allied with like 4 Skaven as Slaanesh specifically for ratling guns, and even tho they have the building, I can't get them :(
yea this is the reason imma play the crap outta this game, tho now i only see fractions as axillary troops to the dwarfs lol, strong front line with the possibility of cav flanks and lizard monsters or zombie arty fodder that im trying out now 😂 have a new 8 arty and 2 zombies and 4 thunderers 😂😂
@@nikeaddict55 I think for some reason all DLC units are unavailable regardless of if you own the DLC or not.
@@romaliop is that what it is? Frankly I haven't noticed it with other DLC units, but that may be true
@@nikeaddict55 That's what I've heard and seems to be the case from my own limited experience as well.
A new series testing army compositions people send in would be amazing especially since doomstacks are not as viable now
What did they change?
I think its mainly because of removing supply lines, which makes crap stacks a lot more efficient
@@Alan0000able It's not that they're not as viable, it's that they're not as optimal. In Warhammer 2 because of 15% supply lines penalty on legendary you needed fewer but stronger armies. In Warhammer 3 it's only 4% so it's more efficient to have more armies instead of stronger armies. The AI doesn't usually build anything that can counter a mid tier army, and even if they do you'll most likely be fighting them in a settlement where they kind of just sit around not using their army effectively.
You can absolutely still paint the map with a few doomstacks instead, you probably just won't get there quite as quickly.
What are supply lines? *asks in Bretonnian*
Spoiler alert - everyone will be running best artillery on melee heavy factions making those doomstack still look the same .. well worse cause it will be from one or two factions (skaven / empire prob )
Holy Jesus.
He took over the whole world by turn 100! Not only that, but he had several armies with doom stacks, one was vampire heros, all of them named, most of them high level!
I just glimpsed into the world of a very gamer moment
I mean it looks like he's playing on Easy? :o that's a lot for a 100 turns on high+
@@OksmanTV Keep in mind on lower difficulties the AI is apparently more aggressive right now. On higher the AI tends to stay in their settlements more often and not venture out, so its interesting either way.
Helman Ghorst is very very VERY overpowered. So I can definitely see that being easily achievable.
@@DenemeDokioI don't have any issue with them being aggressive, it's probably a bit better since now they just stack on their settlements, making it hard to take them rather than open field battles
@@OksmanTV last I checked he only does these videos when people play on hard+ for both campaign and battle but there's some exceptions.
Jesus christ that dribble @ 8:57 to score the Wind of Death was insane
He broke some ankles with that one
This might just be one of the best disaster/doomstack/crapstack Videos yet. What a baller the sender is
Well, to be fair, Balthasar Gelt *did* kinda ally with the vampires a bit in the end times sooooo....
To bad he chose Manfred.
We do not speak of the end times.
@@Roaming8667 don’t save your time it brings a stabbing feeling in your back as you’re reading.
The end times suck
@@dmitriyk.2890 i think vlad chose balthazar not balthazar mannfred cant quite recall tho just was reading about festus and collapse of the great ward basically it goes => bretonnian king kills kugath => gets too sick and yucky still fights => fights festus festus does some nasty trick by spilling nurgle acid on his face=> festus with a nasty filthy saw saws him from throat down to the stomach=>vlad arrives kills festus=>they retreat=>vlad gives dead magic book to balthazar by orders of nagash=> then classic end times boogaloo
Yeah, Blue Rose seems to be a pretty neutral faction. I dragged them into a coalition of order campaign as a military ally as the high elves.
Yeah it’s strange, I just started a very hard campaign as Blue Rose and thought I was going to be fighting wars on all sides but Cathay likes me and I got treaties with Imrik 🤷♂️
@@alexc5243 very hard has really weird ai right now. I'd suggest playing on normal although it isn't really challenging.
@@IVIRnathanreilly It's not limited to Very Hard. I play on Hard/Hard and I still was able to get alliances with basically all of Cathay with zero effort. The only reason I was at war with Imrik was because I wanted to be, I could have allied him as well. You have to fight Ogres, Nurgle, and Skaven early and that endears you to the Order factions more than their aversion penalizes you, enough to get trade agreements and non-aggression pacts and it snowballs from there. Plus there's the "infiltrate noble houses" tech. The biggest problem was Nakai weirdly taking over half of the continent and eating all my allies, when I really didn't want to deal with him.
Ghorst only has a -10 aversion penalty compared to the 30/40 that other VC's tend to have, which makes you have a better resting opinion of most factions. To make it even better, Cathay REALLY loves trade pacts (an easy way to boost your opinion with both the trade target and other cathay factions), AND there are greenskins near your start thatyou should absolutely go to war with, which easily boosts your opinion with cathay/other humans to the point that you can get treaties to finish the job.
Though he does suffer from an opinion penalty in place of boon when it comes to other VC's, but they're far from his starting position and you can work to solve that at your leisure.
Now that I realize vassalizing one elector as vlad might be a meta tactic since he gives bonuses to relations with empire so by having that vassal he can recruit steam tanks on an undead army XD
Currently doing that on my playthrough.
Trying to become the emperor behind the scenes by backing a couple of elector counts, giving them settlements and vassalising Franz and Gelt.
@@IVIRnathanreilly No videos. :(
@@IVIRnathanreilly How in the world does Ghorst ally with Gelt though? Vlad is the only vampire who gets the Empire faction boost, no?
Is it actually possible for enemies to ally with the Ordertide now if you help them against Chaos?
@@Wunderkind04 Or loads of money~
@@Wunderkind04 the lahmian bloodline gives two separate +30 relations to empire/Cathay/kislev/brettonia
My favorite combo is to have Dwarven Thunderers and Irondrakes with a line of Handgunners behind them. The dwarves are so short that the handgunners can fire right over their heads. lol
You know that you going to the book?
@@АндрейМеньков-ю9д There is no wrong in the dwarves very efficient height!
Grudge
Ranged vamps what a comb Karl Franz Def seething and crying his eyes out.
I can't believe he managed to trick Legend into playing Total War like the rest of us, by telling him it was a Vampire Counts army.
has anyone ever wondered how to rotate troops quickly?
hold ALT +CTRL + left or right click into which ever direction
To follow that up because I know some people don't know this, ALT + left click allows you to move around all currently selected units in their current formations, then follow that up with CTRL + left click to rotate the formation
@@weandyrfc7 thank ape god to both of you. I just got back into Total War (havn't played since medieval 2) and i still don't know a lot of these things. Have a jolly good day!
@@weandyrfc7 had to search that up yesterday, because I didn't know how to rotate my Vilitch chosen-aspiring champ blob. Thanks though!
Knew about alt, did NOT know about alt + ctrl. You guys are saints.
You don't need to continue holding ALT. If you hold ALT and then move a unit you can release ALT and continue to move it as long as you don't release the left click. You can then press CTRL to rotate, which does require you to hold it as long as you want to rotate. If you release CTRL, you can continue to move the unit.
Love the touch of renaming the faction "The Empire"
Could have been "The V-Empire"
@@Str4vv ooh clever one
the vam~pire?
Got four helstorms as Thorgrim with two master engineers, its really fun, and having cav as the stunties is pretty nice.
other way around is nice as well , as eltharion i got frontline made of 2 ironbreaker and 2 temple guard unit...true order tide
Vampire Lord: "I hunger"
Also Vampire Lord: *doesn't have 'The Hunger' ability
Which one is it, Real Karl Franz?! Are you lying about your identity as well?!
First wind of death: Nice! Second wind of death: Niiiiiiiiiiiceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee😎also 17:28 presents a very phallic field of bodies XD
Legend reacted to that big, clumped-up column of skeletons like a Looney Tunes character reacts to seeing a giant turkey leg.
This would’ve been a weapons team army if he decided to bring 4 necromancer.
"Shush legend don't give them ideas", completely made me lol
Can we just appreciate the movement that Legend performed at 8:54? He zigzagged and swerved his way through about a hundred troops.
i love that you can do this, recruiting from vassals is such a good change
I love how at 09:00 you see Legend prove a point about nerfs and it they are actually effective. It is Wind of Death and he just mowed down 1000 units in one go. Love to see it!
Vampires, with Hellstorm Rockets... Jesus Christ, that's terrifying.
Might i tell you about dawi whith brettonian heavy cavalry. Real hammer and anvil moments
The Empire vs Followers of nagash
That's what I was hoping for when I heard about the Outpost system. Some completely new and weird army compositions if the player puts in the effort.
Good lord I was crying and laughing hearing Legend frothing at the mouth to get that filthy Wind of Death off on the reinforcements!
I noticed that the AI is much better at not just dodging spells, but artillery as well. My mortars were practically useless in my Karl Franz campaign.
The Real Karl Franz: SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS! i hunger...
What was that famous quote of the Necromancer in WarCraft III? "I love the Undead. Frequently."
Hellstorm versus skeleton spam? Bliss
Plus choke point
"Summon the vampire counts!"
-The real Karl Franz
8:45 you can hear Legend’s neurons firing over the thicc infantry blob
Can't wait for more army compositions like this! :D
Undead: I am DEATH!
Crossbowmen: SIGMAAAAAR!
"OMG OMG OMG" you know that wind of death was gonna be spicy.
that wind of death at 9 minutes in was very satisfying to watch
You should be able to capture the artillery pieces of any army you defeat in battle. They could throw in a mechanic where your troops have to “capture” it the same way you cap a control point. They could even give players and bot factions the option to spike their artillery if they feel like its in danger of being taken. But you would have to have a certain health, so you couldn’t do it if the crew is dead or the piece is already destroyed. Now I know this would probably break the meta so I don’t expect it to happen, but it would be cool,
Damn, that was a REALLY satisfying wind of death right down center of that supporting army.
>Mr. Gelt greeting people in Estalia with Hellstorm launchers.
>*Laughsincathay*
"the real Karl Franz" 🤣
Alliance worthiness tier list?
the hellstorm sounds like the banshee when it screams
the real Karl Franz: "-Bring me to my skelys!"
the AI dodging arcing shots like they are scripting and know EXACTLY which unit im targetting (which they do) is so frustrating.
That moment when he saw the reinforcements coming down the hill in file made me laugh. "Out of my way, out of my fucking way!" xD
...my von Carstein Empire Corruption playstyle got even better! Not only Helstorms, but I can have Gun Wagons too! With one of the best tanking chaff out there! And Vlad + Bella, ofc!
O.o! Thanks for mentioning this!
I just found out you can use revive crystal as lizard to restore amo for stegadon cause the crystal now revive dead entity
Ty for confirming this, was wondering about that, since it revives too! :D
it's one of my favourite units for lizards tbh.
combine revive crystal with a life slann healing and you can get your kroxigors or ripperdactyl units from being nearly wiped out back to full unit strengh during battle.
I've just started a campaign as the Blue Roses Caravan, and I gotta say it's been loads of fun. Flooding the map with ultra cheap stacks of Ghorst's giga-zombies is really fun.
Legend sees a big fat blob of units.
Also Legend : QUICK, OUTA MY WAY!
You should do a video on the Ogre Kingdoms mini doomstack Unbreakable Gnobblar Trappers. its pretty OP if you get the right lord and buffs for troops.
This is what the vampire counts should actually be or at least Vlad since he is an elector count
Manfredd turning Gelt was one of my fave ETime plot points!
legend gunning for that row of enemies was like me when my wife tells me dinner is ready, and it's spaghetti night
The outpost recruitment has really upped the game. It's insanely fun to get unusual combos like iron breakers + rocket batteries or wood elves + high elf bolt throwers.
The moment I saw that thumbnail, I involuntarily let out a small “oh no”.
This army is much better against heavily armored inf army like chaos or dwarfs.
Wind of death do a lot of dmg but very low AP which means high armour targets negate a ton of dmg.
While tomb king skeletons are very low armor
that's why it's good to have a shadow vampire in your armies =)
none overcasted wind of death has a pretty high armor piercing ratio, if you are up against lots of armour you can use that and just do more casts
Pretty sure the realm of souls is supposed to be a multiple use ability now. Same as DE murderous mastery activating more than once.
I've just been doing a blue rose playthrough with zombie armies, its just funny how well it works lol
Hellstorm with undead seems amazing. Already had great success with plageclaws in nurgle armies.
Can't wait to see more crazy compositions in the future.
Casual 900 kills with one winds, so nerfed
WD was unnurfed in 2.0, it's same as in tww2 now
edit: correction, it deals same damage but costs less WM now, so it is actually buffed
Good thing they weren't Longbeards or Dwarf Warriors
@@Kraykz nice
IIRC, it was mostly it's AP damage that was nerfed. It still annihilates low tier infantry like skellies.
@@Kraykz depends. it does cost less but does way less AP damage. so it's terrible now against late game units. hell, it was terrible against super blobbed up saurus spears in my manny campaign.
Vlad should just be an elector count
Yes! I’ve been waiting to see more cool alliance armies. I did this same thing but allied Cathay to be my weapons supplier instead lmao
"Lore accurate"
I love the outposts. My empire campaign was a ton of fun with gyrocopters and irondrakes from karaz a karak supplementing my armies
I imagine we're going to see a lot of fun mixed roster stuff with allied outposts.
Strigoi empire vibes
Certified Mood
He probably got into the zone of control using backspace right before the attack began.
I can't be the only one that wishes something fun happened if a vampire count takes over the empire?
Like what if you got an event where you can declare your faction leader as Emperor and you gain the elector count empire faction mechanic (but with vampires)
That would indeed be nice, a way to convert the elector counts into vamps if you vassalize they would be thematic
Vempire seem pretty scary :O
I would definitely enjoy seeing more videos with outpost units
"Channeling my inner Napoleon here..." Napoleon lost.
Maybe the greatest disaster battle of all time, this guy has class
He probably just moved close while he wasn't at war with the faction yet
Its possible to get the overcasted wind of death cost down to 14, vanguard deployment on all units, blood chalice and +10 md/ma on all vampire heroes now.
If you start as isabella you get carstein as a hero, then just level them up. Carstein has a passive to lower the cost of winds of death.
And on wod being meh on elite units is correct sadly. Regular one has 100%ap, but the overcasted one has quite a bit lower. Overcast pit of shades can outperform vs a blob of heavily armored units. Wod is fantastic vs skaven tho
The funniest part is that if carl franz is an impostor then the real one’s dead and if the body was found there is only one logical step.
How many guys can you hit with your spell? YES
it would be cool if vlad/isabella could get access to some form of the imperial authority mechanic and rule the empire via vassals
All the elector count bonuses, like the runefangs and regiments of renown, should be available to vampire count factions too if they control the required regions. We know some humans serve them in their armies, so it only makes sense
Faith, Steel and Gunpowder.... and Vampires!
"The gods have abandon us!"
I wonder why...
Wind of death will forever be the most satisfying spell in my eyes
So many disasters can be prevented by NOT FORCE MARCHING.
Wind of Death is so satisfying
I think Counts are actually better in WH3, i was skeptical at first. Wind of Death you need to cast it twice, once for the damage and another for the kills, but its so much cheaper now that it doesn't bother me. Von Carstein lords can even use flock of doom to score the kills after a wind of death if you need to save magic.
Also a lot of their units have better stats, and percentage based healing is better than WH2 healing ever was, especially if you stack healing effects. And if you liked trash unit spam from WH2 thats what ghorst is here for
😁
You can also can spam zombies with the other VC factions. Its also works quite well.
Vampire counts buff looks great
Its armour piercing has been nerfed I believe
Welcome to the Vampiric Land Gentlemans.
Uh only noticed in the end he also changed his faction name to the Empire
I was hoping someone else would have noticed that!
I wish there was an ability to dock cliff edges or certain terrain like you can in settlements
Would the real Karl Franz please stand up please stand up
For the V-Empire!
9:03 Holy Moses
Skullstorm Rocket batteries ROR when 💀
Wow now I want to see if vampire coast can get hellstorm batteries or Sky Junks.
That dude is crushing that campaign wtf?
Oh yes. Did this army in my Vladdy Daddy campaign. Total shit but great fun.
Interesting battle and army but near map completion in 101 turns, seems a bit odd. I wonder if his tech tree is complete as well?