We had no idea until we started this Show that Chicken Tikka Masala even existed, let alone is the National dish of The United Kingdom! We've heard quite a few stories of the possible origins of Chicken Tikka Masala but what is the real story? Will we find out here? Is it truly a British dish, South Asian, both or neither? And what's going on with Curry houses in The UK? Are they in danger of going extinct? Lot's to learn today! Thank you SO much for watching! If you enjoy our content, please consider subscribing to our channel, it is the BEST way to support our channel and it's FREE! Also, please click the Like button. Thank you for your support!
British doesn’t just mean English remember, British refers to people from the UK, not just England, so she is actually correct in calling Scottish British, it’s even on our passports as we are all British citizens of the UK. Of course some in the UK dislike being called British but it is still a factual term due to our passports
Best place to try a chicken balti is Birmingham. You also need to know Sikh temples provide free curries as part as their religious duties. You may have to cover your head as young women
CTM is also one of the two major bus companies in Morocco. As a regular visitor to the country, I'm more likely to associate CTM with a bus company than a curry! 😁
Some of the supermarket ready meal curry can be of good quality so a lot of people buy those, starter, main, accompaniment, naan and so on. They are often on a meal deal.
CTM sounds like a chattering class or journalist's invention: you know, loo for toilet, pudding for dessert or sweet. La grande bourgeoisie strikes again.😅
If you come to the UK, try going to a Dishoom. It's probably the best Indian food in Britain. Try some lamb dishes. They are fantastic. It's really kinda a fusion of mainly Indian and Middle Eastern cuisine. It is probably one of the world's best restaurants, it's that good, but it's difficult to get a table as it is so popular.
"CTM" is not used in Yorkshire. Debbie, it is really worth the effort to cook it yourself. It's all in the marinade. Made some for my Birthday once, put it in a plastic tub and by the evening it was cooked over coals at Llyn Gwynant camp site, Snowdonia. Supermarkets have added chemicals etc to the frozen versions, which are poor imitations of South Asian food.
The only person I've ever heard call it a CTM is a friend of mine whose parents own an Indian restaurant in Reading. She invited a few of us to dinner at her place once, and her parents' restaurant supplied the food. She called it a CTM as that's probably what they call it "behind the scenes" in the restaurant. But I've never actually heard anyone order a "CTM"!
@@AirstripOne-nd4du Chicken Tikka and Chicken Tikka Masala are two different dishes though. Chicken Tikka is grilled marinated chicken without any sauce.
I don't think anyone would actually call it "CTM", although you will often find it written on the lid of the container if you order it as a takeaway. Your waiter may even write it like that on your order, but I can't imagine anyone saying, "CTM for me, please"!
@@littlemy1773 But if you just ask for Tikka, how do they know whether you want just plain chicken/lamb tikka without sauce, or the full Tikka Masala experience? They're two different dishes.
@Deborah I would add that a curry house is usually more a caff where they serve homemade curries rather a restaurant where they hire a chef and have posh seating. I a curry house I expect that they don't have an alcohol licence and allow you to bring your own booze, and also that they will make you up a curry of your choice, the prices are usually much cheaper.
You are both right girls, I've never heard it called CTM in my 61yrs. I'm from Glasgow Scotland in the UK and it's always been known as Chicken Tikka Masala. Great video. Love you both. 💛
If you look on the shelves in a UK supermarket, that will answer your question, yes we definately make it at home. There are so many jars, cans of ready made sauces, spice packs to make curries of every sort you can imagine not just Indian.
Agreed. White people do make curry "from scratch", but only if you're a pretty keen cook and if you're cooking for enough guests to make it worthwhile, as there always seems to be a lot of effort required, multiple ingredients, etc. that wouldn't seem worth it if you're only cooking for one or two people. Mostly people either buy ready meals or use sauces in jars, which are certainly good enough for the average cook.
@@leohickey4953True! I have made it a few times and it turned out well but it is too much effort for a single person to bother. I just buy a ready meal now instead.
45 year old cockney that's lived in Liverpool for 20 years, I eat curry almost on the daily but never ever heard it called CTM ??? That's not something we'd abbreviate ..
The popular story is the Glasgow one. Shish Mahal was a couple of minutes away from my university. Glasgow has some of the best Indian food in the UK. Unlike in parts of England, the majority of Indian restaurants and takeaways in Scotland are either Indian or Pakistani owned. Rarely Bangladeshi. So there''s often a very big difference between Indian food depending on what part of the UK you're in. I have never heard it referred to as CTM. Ever. it's just not a thing. As for Indian food outlets being under threat in the UK? Nonsense. It's arguable that we're seeing a lot of finer dining Indian places doing well and places that do more traditional Indian food rather than Anglicised stuff. Places that are more than just classic curry takeaways. Tikka Masala is still wildly popular, but its not to the exclusion of a lot of other dishes. Another popular British Indian dish with Scottissh origins is Chasni - a medium heat and slightly sweet and sour dish. South Indian garlic chilli chicken is also really nice. And other classics like bhoona, jalfrezi and rogan josh are all still popular. Biryani too. Scottish Indian takeaways are also really well known for pakora - vegitable or chicken fritters that are deep fried and served with a chilli sauce. Pakora is a late night staple in Scotland. English places tend to do bhajis more than pakoras.
I moved from a small town to a large town a few years ago. And I can’t find a decent Chinese takeaway. And most that I’ve tried aren’t run by Chinese people. What’s going on?
I live in a medium sized town with a population of around 90k. We have 17 Indian restaurants on the just eat app and a few that aren't on the app. They're in no danger.
From what I understand, this dish was invented in the Shish Mahal restaurant in Glasgow. The restaurant is in the Uni district of Glasgow and the owner invented it because he was fed up with students complaining that his curries were too hot for them (wimps) after a night on the lash. The Glasgow students loved his new dish and a legend was born
We use Indian restaurant as a general term as well. However, around 85% are Bangladeshi. Leicester is ethnic majority south Asian and I’m not aware of many closures. Maybe it’s regional?
I live in West London near an area called Hounslow, which has a very large asian community. Curry Houses are doing nicely, thank you. Never heard it called CTM but there are other dishes I prefer. I don't like a lot of hot spice so I avoid Madras or Vindaloo and go for medium hot dishes like Dopiaza (loads of onions) or Rezala (loads of tomatos). Sometimes I like very mild dishes like Korma (with creamy coconut) or Malaya (with pineapple). But its all the 'other bits' that make the meal; different unlevened breads, aloo potato, mushroom rice, onion bhaji, bindi bhaji. This is why going out as a group is so popular - you get to try a little of everything. For an interesting inversion there was a sketch show called Goodness Gracious Me written and starring Asian people. They did a now famous sketch called Going for an English. ruclips.net/video/H-uEx_hEXAM/видео.html
I've seen more pubs shut down than Indian takeaways. In 5 years no Indian restaurants have shut near me and thats out of dozens, even the poor rated small ones have been open for years. Loads of kebab shops have shut, but thats all for hygiene. I think far more Chinese close more than Indians from what ive seen locally. From the hubbub they was saying in the video, I've seen nothing to suggest they had any trouble
In the UK South Asian means Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi, and Sri Lankan culture and food. Although many still view is as 'Indian' or Pakistani and don't differentiate. Lots of people cook curries at home but not all are equal
It's interesting that when we refer to someone as Asian in the UK, we specifically mean South Asian (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc.). But in the US, Asian implies South East or East Asian.
Mr Ali was the guy who invented Chicken Tikka Masala in Glasgow, shown at the beginning of the video. I had my very first curry in his restaurant in the late 60s. My favourites are Rogon Josh (tomato base) and Biryani (a rice dish that comes with a vegetable curry) - not chicken tikka masala! Have you heard of the 'breakfast' dish called kedgeree? It's wonderful. I think of it more of a lunch dish though. It's a rice dish with smoked fish and topped with a sliced hard boiled egg. Sounds weird but it's really tasty if you like smoked fish. It came to the UK at the time of the Raj when the wives of British soldiers were asked for it by their Colonial serving husbands.
There are actually very few Indian restaurants in England. The huge majority of Bangladeshi. In the 70s some tried to change their names to Bengali restaurants, but customers stayed away, thinking the food would be different. They soon changed their name back to Indian and the customers returned.
And c t m is not the national dish that would be a roast dinner it was an out of touch socialist politician who pushed the idea most true brits would not see Indian Moslem food as their national dish 🤔
Brick Lane in London and the Balti Triangle in Birmingham are well worth checking out. There’s also a chain called Dishoom that does Parsi (Persian-Indian essentially, like Freddie Mercury of course) that’s amazing I’ve never seen it called CTM either, it might be shortened to Chicken Tikka.
Nobody has ever called it CTM, ever. Look at the recipe books of Pat Chapman, who was a great home curry cook. I regularly cook all types of Asian food from scratch and it is always good and easier than you think.
I live in far north Philippines. A new restaurant opened not long ago run by a Belgian expat and his Filipino partner who was a chef in England. They serve real Chicken Tika Masala, other Indian dishes and many other items that are British based. TCM and Lemon Meringue Pie and baked rice pudding are my favourites.
Debbie, if you want to learn Indian/Bangladesh food cookery I have found “Latifs Inspired” as the best RUclips channel for this. The chef shows & talks you through every dish. Good luck but you won’t regret it. For me I try as many dishes as possible even though I have my favourites as you never know. I am very partial to a Dansak but i ask the chef to add extra chilli as I like the food to tingle the lips but where I can still taste the food.
I've never heard it referred to as CTM. Also, i have probably over a dozen curry houses within 3 miles of where I live and another opening soon. I dont think they are under threat!
chicken balti was invented in a Sparkbrook area of Birmingham UK in the 1950s/60s. in an indian restaurant on the Stratford Road. Curry houses are not under threat as most are family businesses.
You also have to remember that Brits who lived in India had Indian cooks who made Indian dishes so they were used to eating spicy food and Indian food. When they returned to Britain they wanted to keep eating the dishes they loved.
My grandfather was a soldier in the British Army who survived the First World War. He was sent to India around 1930 and my father grew up there. As my gradfather came from a very poot background with awful food, he adored curry. My father grew up in British India and spoke fluent Urdu. Even as a child in the 1950s we ate curry regularly. Also, believe it or not, I grew up in my first 8 years of lfe in Sparkbrook Birmingham, centre of the Balti triangle today. I now live in South Africa and eat curry in some form or anothe most days.
@@ianbeddowes5362my father was in India during/after WW2 - he used to cook curries for us at home when I was young but they were 'Anglo-Indian' curries that they used to get in the English clubs/restaurants over there. They were very tasty and spicy, but nothing like curries we get from Indian restaurants nowadays. I vaguely remember him using diced apples, sultanas and curry powder.
That was cool, never been a Tikka Masala person but I was fascinated it's the national dish in the UK. Would love to see Debbie try out cooking up a curry. Will have to venture to Patreon because that would be cool to watch. Living in Hong Kong my local joint was run by ex Gurkhas and the food was AMAZING. Though once I had a prawn vindaloo in an Irish pub in HK, thought the prawns were a but mushy but powered through. Great way to loose 5kg over the next couple of days.
@@neilgayleard3842 A few years ago I read in a newspaper a survey of people's favourite curries and the Jalfrezi was top so not even most popular curry but the myth persists
It's a dish that is popularly enjoyed as a takeaway, not the national dish, which would be different in different parts of the UK. In England the national dish would be a Sunday roast or a traditional English breakfast or Afternoon tea.
It looks like the only person to call it CTM is the lass that made this highly political and completely unresolved vid. 😛.. I'm with the interweb.. Glasgow for the source. 😉
In the UK, it tends to be called "going for an Indian". The behaviour of UK diners tends to leave a lot to be desired and was wonderfully sent up by some UK/Asian actors in a skit called "Going for an English"
We converted Natasha and Debbie onto chicken Tikka Masala. We were invited out with Natasha and Debbie for lunch when we were on a Facebook live with them and were asked what should they have, so being British We kept saying you both need try chicken Tikka Masala because you are missing a treat. So we explained what it involved and what was required to have a nice Chicken Tikka. So they both ordered it because it was available on the menu and they were sold, they absolutely loved it and both have fallen in love with this way eating curry. Keep the chicken Tikka on the menu ladies❤
CTM???...WTF!!!! ...never heard that term in nearly 60 years in England....My goto is always a lamb pasanda with a peshwari naan and I hope you get to try it at some point. Love your videos
Oh i love chicken tikka masala i have it regularly. Other dishes i love and have often are chicken madras, chicken biryani, rogan josh & butter chicken. Then there's also Vindaloo & Phal which are 2 of the hottest dishes (my dad used to love them)
There are a reasonable amount of Spice Packs available in supermarkets now for making curries at home. If you’re doing restaurants or takeaway always check out chef specials as this will normally give you an idea what part of India,Pakistan or Bangladesh they hail from. Attempt to taste as many different things as possible, Pakora, Bhajis , Saag Paneer, Saag Aloo etc. Also try Lassi yoghurt drinks, kalfi ice cream I know too many people who stick to Chicken Tikka Masala and don’t try anything else Remember there are many other curry types Makhani, Madras, Korma, Dhansak, Keralan, Goan, Phal etc. I personally am a Chicken Jalfrezi person but will eat a Goan Fish Curry or a Lamb Rogan Josh. I’ve had Phals and when you’re Pissed as a newt they go down quite well but when you sober up you remember why you shouldn’t have them.
Chicken Khorai, sag aloo, dhal and chapatis. Family favourites in my house. I cook a lot of British Indian curries at home the base sauce takes hours to make but I cook in bulk and freeze in potions. 😊
Its so strange that I, as a complete lover of Indian food, regular curry eater/maker have never had Chicken Tikka Masala. P.S. I have never heard of it being called CTM, I think that lady made that bit up.
As a 4.5 decade old English man living in England. This is the first time ive heard it called ctm ever.... Chicken tika masala is not on just in Indian restaurants but on some menu's in normal traditional British restaurants too
Ive had at least 10 Indian restaurants open in my town of Northampton since 2020. Yes i cook lots of different Indian dishes at home. Growing up my nans best friend was a Indian lady. She taught me to cook all her family dishes and breads. I eat curry at least once a week, normally me cooking it.
CTM....Really!! 🤦🤣...I don't think so...Chicken Tikka Masala I believe comes from Dundee in Scotland...however some say its Glasgow...who knows, but it did come from Scotland...many Indian dishes come out of Birmingham England , however this girl on the video needs to research better, she's so wrong on so many points...
Never heard of it being called CTM either wish people would check their facts before making videos! Or if it’s in a specific area in said countries say so and as far as I am aware, no they are not under threat
CTM??? ive never heard anyone call it that here, its a chicken tiki, never a CTM, personally i prefer a brummy Balti, something i think is the same type history but im down south so far away from birmingham
CTM? Nope. Americans assuming things. Actually it was because it was too spicy and they added cream etc, I've heard the North of England and Scotland where it started.
As a Glaswegian who's been to Shish Mahal (a really good restaurant btw), I can confirm that I have never heard of anyone in the Uk call it CTM. Definitely sounds like an American acronym to me.
I always add one dish that I have never eaten before when we go out to eat. I have my "safety food " because you dont want to go "All In" and not like it so add one dish youve never had. You just never know !!
I like Chicken Bhuna which has a thick unctuous sauce based on tomatoes and onions plus herbs and spices Chicken Korma is mild too Queen Victoria had her own personal curry chef
I recently had a beef Bhuna at an Indian restaurant in East London, it was gorgeous! It was the first time I'd ever seen a beef dish on an Indian restaurant menu, too!
Been eating curry all my life, but not exclusively (68 years so far). Never ever heard it called CTM ! I usually cook curries at home but have never ordered a CTM from a takeaway restaurant . My favourite style of cooking. My cooking "bible" is Madhur Jaffrey's Indian Cookery
Never heard it called ctm and I lived in London for over twenty years, some of that time in Hackney. Now I reside on the beautiful isle of Wight (due a reaction? Lol) it is a small island, only 23 x 13 miles and we have at least 15 Indian (yes, we do call it Indian food) restaurants/takeaways, so it isn't really necessary to make your own..you can even buy some pretty good versions in all the major supermarkets, either a fully prepared chilled or frozen ready meal or just the sauce to add to ready cooked, chicken at a good price. Although, I am obviously speaking as a white middle class English woman, I'd imagine many Indian families use their own recipes. Whichever way you get your hands on it, it's bloody lovely..😁👍🇬🇧 😁
Morning lovely ladies , great subject , as a Brummie we have more curry houses than canals lol and I'd like to think it's us if it's origins are British , but I've heard somewhere that Glasgow might be involved eh Roslyn ? lol , Bradford is also a contender I would think , oh and I suppose if not us then India might have a shot , lol , hang on I'll ask my nan , lol , 😁😁 xx
Birmingham is usually considered the hot spot for curry, but London has an area known for it too on a street called Brick Lane, that's where the top Indian restaurants are in London. Sheba is a famous one on that street, they are famous for their lamb shank. Theyve won a bunch of awards
I lived in East London up until 1997. Brick Lane was not fancy then - you got a good cheap meal. The restaurants were not licenced (being Muslim) so you could bring your own booze without corkage. Having said that, I never drink with an Indian, just have salty lassi. [I also regard the collective name as Indian because the food is from the Indian Subcontinent (and anyway it all used to be British India)].
Theres a fair lot of Indian takeaways local to me, many within a stones throw if each other. Some are full blown restaurants and a few others are just small shops for takeaway, and usually poor reviews/hygiene ratings etc. The big restaurants are all solid though. I don't think its difficult to find a few really good ones probably anywhere in the country since they are so common
Where does this woman get her information from !!?? NO ONE calls it CTM in the UK !! Curry houses are NOT under threat in the UK !! Other currys are VINDALOO, ROGAN JOSH, KORMA, TANDOORI, MADRAS, JALFREZI and many more.
I think there's a difference between a national dish and a favourite one. A national dish is one that is most associated with a country, for example you guys said fish and chips, although the French might better link Britain with roast beef. Curry might well be the most widely consumed food type, with chicken tikka being the most popular. It's fairly bland and therefore appeals to many. Some people will eat curry two or three times a week, whilst roast beef tends to be associated with Sunday Roast or special occasions. Likewise fish and chips (used to be the only real takeaway choice until recent years) and would be consumed on Fridays (religious tradition I think) or Saturdays after attending football/soccer matches.
OK, so the Brexit argument is completely false. I’ve never once seen Eastern Europeans working in an ‘Indian Restaurant’. Since Brexit, my small town 10k residents now has another 3 ‘Indian’ restaurants. Current status 6 ‘Indian restaurants’ , 2 Chinese, 1 Mexican, 1 Italian, 1 national chain Pizza, 2 Kebab,2 decent Burger joints. 1 British restaurant and a variety of pubs serving mostly decent food.😊 oh , I forgot the Thai restaurant.
CTM ! WTH ! in the UK its called Tikka or Tikka Masala and is usually chicken or lamb, it is only the military or America that seems to have the need to reduce everything to Initials ! NY, WTF, OMG, CTM, KFC,McD. We know the initials but you wil find mainly amercan influenced millenial brits using initials. we go out for an indian, a curry or a chinese. baby boomers would cringe at going for a CTM. its rubbish, we dont order CTM , LB( lamb balti), BM (beef madras) ,BK(Beef Korma) or PV (Prawn Vindaloo) it would be mad , I dread to think how these people order Caramalised Onion Chicken Korma .
Brexit had no impact on the Indian restaurants , every tow and city in the UK has multiple Indian restaurantd they also do takeaway , and the supermarket also do microwave curry meals x
Curry is easy, you should... You guys are Ohio? There's Indian/South Asian supermarket(s) available and they're excellent. Halal meat's all good, mutton's all good. You want a decent spice mix (leave out the cilantro/coriander) and definitely some Ghee - clarified butter (use sparingly). Curry's an easy dish to do "ok", then it's just practice to get something to your taste. I'd go ghost-chilli, but that's maybe 4-5 (big-ish) cut up for ~6 or so people. Depends how spicy you like, if you've got a slow clooker, mutton's worth a stab.
In most UK supermarkets you can buy a variety of pre made CTM sauces varying from pretty naf to a spice kit you mix up yourself. I buy a middle of the range Patak spice pack and mix it with yogurt. Try and find this if you have a uk importing store. Many other Indian meals are available in the same way. I would suggest most CTM, s are home made and not bought out. All restaurants in the UK are in real trouble. Despite what USA may say we have clamped down on Russia hard with sanctions, particularly" keep your gas and oil". Thus the price has gone through the roof. As a feel, I have not checked the numbers, a monthly energy bill of £2000 is now £20000. In that order anyway. They just have to shut down. Politics I know Boris Johnson is Donald Trump with an IQ over 95. Quite a t*rd. Brexit is a disaster much for the reasons stated. No cheap labour no one to fill jobs at any price. Hence inflation.
NO ONE in the UK calls it CTM, its obviously a California thing! She's irritating me by saying it. Its, as many curries are here, a fusion between Bangladeshi, Indian, Sri Lankan & Pakistani British tastes. That's why there is no straight answer. "English" curry is more hot and spicy than a South Indian family would cook at home.
We had no idea until we started this Show that Chicken Tikka Masala even existed, let alone is the National dish of The United Kingdom! We've heard quite a few stories of the possible origins of Chicken Tikka Masala but what is the real story? Will we find out here? Is it truly a British dish, South Asian, both or neither? And what's going on with Curry houses in The UK? Are they in danger of going extinct? Lot's to learn today! Thank you SO much for watching! If you enjoy our content, please consider subscribing to our channel, it is the BEST way to support our channel and it's FREE! Also, please click the Like button. Thank you for your support!
British doesn’t just mean English remember, British refers to people from the UK, not just England, so she is actually correct in calling Scottish British, it’s even on our passports as we are all British citizens of the UK. Of course some in the UK dislike being called British but it is still a factual term due to our passports
I love curry, if you want a true chicken tikka you order a butter chicken that's an authentic tikka 😛
Natasha, you should try chicken tikka Parthia far superior to chicken tikka masala
No Brexit has had no effect. We do cook Indian food at home from scratch or using pre made sauces.
Best place to try a chicken balti is Birmingham. You also need to know Sikh temples provide free curries as part as their religious duties.
You may have to cover your head as young women
As a Brit I've never heard it called CTM which honestly makes it sound like a medical condition.
Also a Brit and never heard it called a CTM was then waiting for her to say it was an American invention
Same. I think the reporter made it up and is hoping by saying it 100 times it will be a thing.
😆 This is probably a N&D abbreviation...
CTM is also one of the two major bus companies in Morocco. As a regular visitor to the country, I'm more likely to associate CTM with a bus company than a curry! 😁
CTM? Sounds like some kind of rash ... i have NEVER heard this before
Nobody calls it "CTM'' in the UK
We are certainly not short on Indian restaurants in the UK (over 18,000 in the uk)
Some of the supermarket ready meal curry can be of good quality so a lot of people buy those, starter, main, accompaniment, naan and so on. They are often on a meal deal.
CTM sounds like a chattering class or journalist's invention: you know, loo for toilet, pudding for dessert or sweet. La grande bourgeoisie strikes again.😅
I think it is more restaurant/trade shorthand.
If you come to the UK, try going to a Dishoom. It's probably the best Indian food in Britain. Try some lamb dishes. They are fantastic. It's really kinda a fusion of mainly Indian and Middle Eastern cuisine. It is probably one of the world's best restaurants, it's that good, but it's difficult to get a table as it is so popular.
They have been selling it in Birmingham since the 70's - Birmingham definitely invented the Balti.
We make a lot of our own curries at home, watch Al's Kitchen, or Latifs Inspired, channels excellent curry making ideas
We have the Balti Triangle
Neighborhood in Birmingham, England.
"CTM" is not used in Yorkshire. Debbie, it is really worth the effort to cook it yourself. It's all in the marinade. Made some for my Birthday once, put it in a plastic tub and by the evening it was cooked over coals at Llyn Gwynant camp site, Snowdonia. Supermarkets have added chemicals etc to the frozen versions, which are poor imitations of South Asian food.
great episode
Khorma is my favourite
I'm in the UK, and have not once heard anyone either White British or British South Asian call it CTM, it's always just called Chicken Tikka Masala.
I have never heard it called CTM before !
The only person I've ever heard call it a CTM is a friend of mine whose parents own an Indian restaurant in Reading. She invited a few of us to dinner at her place once, and her parents' restaurant supplied the food. She called it a CTM as that's probably what they call it "behind the scenes" in the restaurant. But I've never actually heard anyone order a "CTM"!
@@AirstripOne-nd4du Chicken Tikka and Chicken Tikka Masala are two different dishes though. Chicken Tikka is grilled marinated chicken without any sauce.
@@AirstripOne-nd4duThat's just a starter though, I've made that mistake before 😂
@@AirstripOne-nd4duChicken Tikka is an entirely separate dish, it's not the same as Masala.
I used to work near a big Indian area in Manchester called Rusholme and no one called it CTM. Rusholme is referred to as ‘the curry mile’.
Many a happy evenings eating there in the 80s and 90s
I don't think anyone would actually call it "CTM", although you will often find it written on the lid of the container if you order it as a takeaway. Your waiter may even write it like that on your order, but I can't imagine anyone saying, "CTM for me, please"!
Bingo!
I've never heard it called CTM
No one calls it this, tikka is what I’ve heard people say for short . CTM sounds ridiculous lol
@@littlemy1773 But if you just ask for Tikka, how do they know whether you want just plain chicken/lamb tikka without sauce, or the full Tikka Masala experience? They're two different dishes.
It’s rubbish, if it gets reduced I say Chicken Tickki
@@andybaker2456 I don’t mean when ordering I mean when referring to it in general. Not sure when ordering cos I’m a tandoori girl myself 🤣
A curry house is just an Indian restaurant
Oooh, that makes sense
@Deborah I would add that a curry house is usually more a caff where they serve homemade curries rather a restaurant where they hire a chef and have posh seating. I a curry house I expect that they don't have an alcohol licence and allow you to bring your own booze, and also that they will make you up a curry of your choice, the prices are usually much cheaper.
@@TheNatashaDebbieShow Think of a Public House - a Pub!
You are both right girls, I've never heard it called CTM in my 61yrs. I'm from Glasgow Scotland in the UK and it's always been known as Chicken Tikka Masala. Great video. Love you both. 💛
Same
CTM? I’ve never heard it called that in the U.K.!
If you look on the shelves in a UK supermarket, that will answer your question, yes we definately make it at home. There are so many jars, cans of ready made sauces, spice packs to make curries of every sort you can imagine not just Indian.
Agreed. White people do make curry "from scratch", but only if you're a pretty keen cook and if you're cooking for enough guests to make it worthwhile, as there always seems to be a lot of effort required, multiple ingredients, etc. that wouldn't seem worth it if you're only cooking for one or two people. Mostly people either buy ready meals or use sauces in jars, which are certainly good enough for the average cook.
@@leohickey4953True! I have made it a few times and it turned out well but it is too much effort for a single person to bother. I just buy a ready meal now instead.
I'm from Glasgow never heard it called CTM
45 year old cockney that's lived in Liverpool for 20 years, I eat curry almost on the daily but never ever heard it called CTM ??? That's not something we'd abbreviate ..
The popular story is the Glasgow one. Shish Mahal was a couple of minutes away from my university. Glasgow has some of the best Indian food in the UK. Unlike in parts of England, the majority of Indian restaurants and takeaways in Scotland are either Indian or Pakistani owned. Rarely Bangladeshi. So there''s often a very big difference between Indian food depending on what part of the UK you're in.
I have never heard it referred to as CTM. Ever. it's just not a thing.
As for Indian food outlets being under threat in the UK? Nonsense. It's arguable that we're seeing a lot of finer dining Indian places doing well and places that do more traditional Indian food rather than Anglicised stuff. Places that are more than just classic curry takeaways. Tikka Masala is still wildly popular, but its not to the exclusion of a lot of other dishes. Another popular British Indian dish with Scottissh origins is Chasni - a medium heat and slightly sweet and sour dish. South Indian garlic chilli chicken is also really nice. And other classics like bhoona, jalfrezi and rogan josh are all still popular. Biryani too. Scottish Indian takeaways are also really well known for pakora - vegitable or chicken fritters that are deep fried and served with a chilli sauce. Pakora is a late night staple in Scotland. English places tend to do bhajis more than pakoras.
Biryani is the bomb! A lamb biryani, a naan and a pint of lager = heaven!
I've not noticed any decline of Indian restaurants in fact my town has 2 new ones open, I make it at home one of our favourite dishes
More brexit propaganda!
38 from Aberdeen, Scotland and never heard it called CTM.
I live in a small town, and we have seven curry houses, four Chinese takeaways, four chip shops, two kebab shops and three pizza shops.
I moved from a small town to a large town a few years ago. And I can’t find a decent Chinese takeaway. And most that I’ve tried aren’t run by Chinese people. What’s going on?
I live in a medium sized town with a population of around 90k. We have 17 Indian restaurants on the just eat app and a few that aren't on the app. They're in no danger.
From what I understand, this dish was invented in the Shish Mahal restaurant in Glasgow. The restaurant is in the Uni district of Glasgow and the owner invented it because he was fed up with students complaining that his curries were too hot for them (wimps) after a night on the lash. The Glasgow students loved his new dish and a legend was born
Was just going to say similar. Definitely created in Glasgow.
What kind of student would say a curry was too hot? Back in the 80’s it was a badge of honour!
It would surprise you
You need to try a balti curry in Birmingham.
😜 Can you compete with Lancs/Yorks curry houses tho'???
@@edelgyn2699 I’m a 1/4 Lancastrian, and have Yorkshire heritage and my late mother in law was from Birmingham, so I am neutral.
Had a good bhuna in Birmingham and a Nepalese korma Nottingham. I think they should try a vindaloo though... lol
CTM - never heard that and I am from the UK and eat curry amongst other things.
We use Indian restaurant as a general term as well. However, around 85% are Bangladeshi. Leicester is ethnic majority south Asian and I’m not aware of many closures. Maybe it’s regional?
I live in West London near an area called Hounslow, which has a very large asian community. Curry Houses are doing nicely, thank you. Never heard it called CTM but there are other dishes I prefer. I don't like a lot of hot spice so I avoid Madras or Vindaloo and go for medium hot dishes like Dopiaza (loads of onions) or Rezala (loads of tomatos). Sometimes I like very mild dishes like Korma (with creamy coconut) or Malaya (with pineapple). But its all the 'other bits' that make the meal; different unlevened breads, aloo potato, mushroom rice, onion bhaji, bindi bhaji. This is why going out as a group is so popular - you get to try a little of everything.
For an interesting inversion there was a sketch show called Goodness Gracious Me written and starring Asian people. They did a now famous sketch called Going for an English. ruclips.net/video/H-uEx_hEXAM/видео.html
Natasha and Debbie need to react to this 😂 might give a decent insight in to the British Asian experience too
I've seen more pubs shut down than Indian takeaways. In 5 years no Indian restaurants have shut near me and thats out of dozens, even the poor rated small ones have been open for years. Loads of kebab shops have shut, but thats all for hygiene. I think far more Chinese close more than Indians from what ive seen locally. From the hubbub they was saying in the video, I've seen nothing to suggest they had any trouble
In the UK South Asian means Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi, and Sri Lankan culture and food. Although many still view is as 'Indian' or Pakistani and don't differentiate. Lots of people cook curries at home but not all are equal
It's interesting that when we refer to someone as Asian in the UK, we specifically mean South Asian (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc.). But in the US, Asian implies South East or East Asian.
Mr Ali was the guy who invented Chicken Tikka Masala in Glasgow, shown at the beginning of the video. I had my very first curry in his restaurant in the late 60s.
My favourites are Rogon Josh (tomato base) and Biryani (a rice dish that comes with a vegetable curry) - not chicken tikka masala!
Have you heard of the 'breakfast' dish called kedgeree? It's wonderful. I think of it more of a lunch dish though. It's a rice dish with smoked fish and topped with a sliced hard boiled egg. Sounds weird but it's really tasty if you like smoked fish. It came to the UK at the time of the Raj when the wives of British soldiers were asked for it by their Colonial serving husbands.
There are actually very few Indian restaurants in England. The huge majority of Bangladeshi. In the 70s some tried to change their names to Bengali restaurants, but customers stayed away, thinking the food would be different. They soon changed their name back to Indian and the customers returned.
CTM! Never heard that! It sounds li8ke a medical condition!!
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I think she uses CTM as an economy of speech. I have never heard of it as CTM and I am English.
According to many Indian diplomats.
The best curries outside of India are found in Birmingham England.
Durban!!!
True - Brummie
Rubbish the Chinese do even better curries 🤔
And c t m is not the national dish that would be a roast dinner it was an out of touch socialist politician who pushed the idea most true brits would not see Indian Moslem food as their national dish 🤔
@@maximillianphoenix9374 Cool opinion
Brick Lane in London and the Balti Triangle in Birmingham are well worth checking out. There’s also a chain called Dishoom that does Parsi (Persian-Indian essentially, like Freddie Mercury of course) that’s amazing
I’ve never seen it called CTM either, it might be shortened to Chicken Tikka.
Chicken Tikka is a different dish though. It's a dry spiced and barbecued chicken; the Masala is the sauce.
Nobody has ever called it CTM, ever. Look at the recipe books of Pat Chapman, who was a great home curry cook. I regularly cook all types of Asian food from scratch and it is always good and easier than you think.
Based on the video I guess it might be a thing in some parts of California that they assumed was more common worldwide, but isn't.
I live in far north Philippines. A new restaurant opened not long ago run by a Belgian expat and his Filipino partner who was a chef in England.
They serve real Chicken Tika Masala, other Indian dishes and many other items that are British based.
TCM and Lemon Meringue Pie and baked rice pudding are my favourites.
Debbie, if you want to learn Indian/Bangladesh food cookery I have found “Latifs Inspired” as the best RUclips channel for this. The chef shows & talks you through every dish. Good luck but you won’t regret it. For me I try as many dishes as possible even though I have my favourites as you never know. I am very partial to a Dansak but i ask the chef to add extra chilli as I like the food to tingle the lips but where I can still taste the food.
I've never heard it referred to as CTM.
Also, i have probably over a dozen curry houses within 3 miles of where I live and another opening soon. I dont think they are under threat!
chicken balti was invented in a Sparkbrook area of Birmingham UK in the 1950s/60s. in an indian restaurant on the Stratford Road. Curry houses are not under threat as most are family businesses.
All the Brummies then!
You also have to remember that Brits who lived in India had Indian cooks who made Indian dishes so they were used to eating spicy food and Indian food. When they returned to Britain they wanted to keep eating the dishes they loved.
My grandfather was a soldier in the British Army who survived the First World War. He was sent to India around 1930 and my father grew up there. As my gradfather came from a very poot background with awful food, he adored curry. My father grew up in British India and spoke fluent Urdu. Even as a child in the 1950s we ate curry regularly. Also, believe it or not, I grew up in my first 8 years of lfe in Sparkbrook Birmingham, centre of the Balti triangle today. I now live in South Africa and eat curry in some form or anothe most days.
@@ianbeddowes5362my father was in India during/after WW2 - he used to cook curries for us at home when I was young but they were 'Anglo-Indian' curries that they used to get in the English clubs/restaurants over there. They were very tasty and spicy, but nothing like curries we get from Indian restaurants nowadays. I vaguely remember him using diced apples, sultanas and curry powder.
UK here and like others have said (we here have never hear it or called it CTM)
I’ve never heard the term CTM. I like Chicken Tikka Masala but I prefer Lamb Tikka Masala.
My father is Anglo Indian so I’ve grown up with authentic curry virtually daily and I’m proud to say my mum has passed on her skills to me.
Nope. Never heard CTM.
CTM no never heard anyone every say that
That was cool, never been a Tikka Masala person but I was fascinated it's the national dish in the UK. Would love to see Debbie try out cooking up a curry. Will have to venture to Patreon because that would be cool to watch. Living in Hong Kong my local joint was run by ex Gurkhas and the food was AMAZING. Though once I had a prawn vindaloo in an Irish pub in HK, thought the prawns were a but mushy but powered through. Great way to loose 5kg over the next couple of days.
It's not our national dish. Because we don't have one and never have. The claim was because of a small online poll.
@@neilgayleard3842 A few years ago I read in a newspaper a survey of people's favourite curries and the Jalfrezi was top so not even most popular curry but the myth persists
It's a dish that is popularly enjoyed as a takeaway, not the national dish, which would be different in different parts of the UK. In England the national dish would be a Sunday roast or a traditional English breakfast or Afternoon tea.
CTM never heard off never used it its Chicken Tikka Masala
Hapus Dewi Sant Girls it's St David's day here in Wales so It's Bara Brith & Welsh Cakes & Cawl in Wales!!
It looks like the only person to call it CTM is the lass that made this highly political and completely unresolved vid. 😛.. I'm with the interweb.. Glasgow for the source. 😉
In the UK, it tends to be called "going for an Indian". The behaviour of UK diners tends to leave a lot to be desired and was wonderfully sent up by some UK/Asian actors in a skit called "Going for an English"
What do you have that's really, really bland?
@@grahvisPorridge is bland, but then theres nothing against adding things to it to make it a little more exciting than the traditional salt or sugar.
Looove that sketch!! 😂😂😂
@@grahvis Toast, cream crackers, buttered scones, mash!
Yep the curry mile runs through Rusholme in Manchester :)
We converted Natasha and Debbie onto chicken Tikka Masala. We were invited out with Natasha and Debbie for lunch when we were on a Facebook live with them and were asked what should they have, so being British We kept saying you both need try chicken Tikka Masala because you are missing a treat. So we explained what it involved and what was required to have a nice Chicken Tikka. So they both ordered it because it was available on the menu and they were sold, they absolutely loved it and both have fallen in love with this way eating curry. Keep the chicken Tikka on the menu ladies❤
CTM???...WTF!!!! ...never heard that term in nearly 60 years in England....My goto is always a lamb pasanda with a peshwari naan and I hope you get to try it at some point. Love your videos
Oh i love chicken tikka masala i have it regularly. Other dishes i love and have often are chicken madras, chicken biryani, rogan josh & butter chicken. Then there's also Vindaloo & Phal which are 2 of the hottest dishes (my dad used to love them)
There are a reasonable amount of Spice Packs available in supermarkets now for making curries at home.
If you’re doing restaurants or takeaway always check out chef specials as this will normally give you an idea what part of India,Pakistan or Bangladesh they hail from.
Attempt to taste as many different things as possible, Pakora, Bhajis , Saag Paneer, Saag Aloo etc.
Also try Lassi yoghurt drinks, kalfi ice cream
I know too many people who stick to Chicken Tikka Masala and don’t try anything else
Remember there are many other curry types Makhani, Madras, Korma, Dhansak, Keralan, Goan, Phal etc.
I personally am a Chicken Jalfrezi person but will eat a Goan Fish Curry or a Lamb Rogan Josh. I’ve had Phals and when you’re Pissed as a newt they go down quite well but when you sober up you remember why you shouldn’t have them.
The first Indian Restaurant in the UK opened BEFORE the first Fish and Chip shop
I found that hard to believe, so I Googled it. 1810 for the Indian restaurant and 1860 for Fish and Chip shop! I learnt something new today!
@@rikmoran3963 No, there was at least one 'curry house' in the UK dating back to the time they set up the East India company.
Chicken Khorai, sag aloo, dhal and chapatis. Family favourites in my house. I cook a lot of British Indian curries at home the base sauce takes hours to make but I cook in bulk and freeze in potions. 😊
Am I the only Brit that doesn’t rate this dish? I prefer fish and chips if I ever get a take out.
I like curries and kebabs, but you can't beat fish'n'chips on a cold, blustery day.
Yes I prefer good old English fish n chips, still my favourite takeaway..
Its so strange that I, as a complete lover of Indian food, regular curry eater/maker have never had Chicken Tikka Masala. P.S. I have never heard of it being called CTM, I think that lady made that bit up.
As a 4.5 decade old English man living in England.
This is the first time ive heard it called ctm ever....
Chicken tika masala is not on just in Indian restaurants but on some menu's in normal traditional British restaurants too
Ive had at least 10 Indian restaurants open in my town of Northampton since 2020. Yes i cook lots of different Indian dishes at home. Growing up my nans best friend was a Indian lady. She taught me to cook all her family dishes and breads. I eat curry at least once a week, normally me cooking it.
Is it wrong that I want curry for breakfast after this video 😂
Another great video ladies.
Not at all!
CTM....Really!! 🤦🤣...I don't think so...Chicken Tikka Masala I believe comes from Dundee in Scotland...however some say its Glasgow...who knows, but it did come from Scotland...many Indian dishes come out of Birmingham England , however this girl on the video needs to research better, she's so wrong on so many points...
2:25 - 3 times in 24 hours!! Don't call a plumber! You won't need one! 🙃
Never heard of it being called CTM either wish people would check their facts before making videos! Or if it’s in a specific area in said countries say so and as far as I am aware, no they are not under threat
CTM??? ive never heard anyone call it that here, its a chicken tiki, never a CTM, personally i prefer a brummy Balti, something i think is the same type history but im down south so far away from birmingham
CTM? Nope. Americans assuming things. Actually it was because it was too spicy and they added cream etc, I've heard the North of England and Scotland where it started.
Aye!
As a Glaswegian who's been to Shish Mahal (a really good restaurant btw), I can confirm that I have never heard of anyone in the Uk call it CTM. Definitely sounds like an American acronym to me.
never heard it called CTM
I'm not really a curry fan so I would go for a Chinese or fish and chips.
Chinese curries?
Same don't touch curries
I always add one dish that I have never eaten before when we go out to eat. I have my "safety food " because you dont want to go "All In" and not like it so add one dish youve never had. You just never know !!
This Kiwi is (very) partial to a beef or chicken Madras.
I like Chicken Bhuna which has a thick unctuous sauce based on tomatoes and onions plus herbs and spices Chicken Korma is mild too Queen Victoria had her own personal curry chef
I recently had a beef Bhuna at an Indian restaurant in East London, it was gorgeous! It was the first time I'd ever seen a beef dish on an Indian restaurant menu, too!
It’s not called CTM 😂 wtf
Been eating curry all my life, but not exclusively (68 years so far). Never ever heard it called CTM ! I usually cook curries at home but have never ordered a CTM from a takeaway restaurant . My favourite style of cooking. My cooking "bible" is Madhur Jaffrey's Indian Cookery
Never heard it called ctm and I lived in London for over twenty years, some of that time in Hackney. Now I reside on the beautiful isle of Wight (due a reaction? Lol) it is a small island, only 23 x 13 miles and we have at least 15 Indian (yes, we do call it Indian food) restaurants/takeaways, so it isn't really necessary to make your own..you can even buy some pretty good versions in all the major supermarkets, either a fully prepared chilled or frozen ready meal or just the sauce to add to ready cooked, chicken at a good price. Although, I am obviously speaking as a white middle class English woman, I'd imagine many Indian families use their own recipes. Whichever way you get your hands on it, it's bloody lovely..😁👍🇬🇧
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LOL I'm surprised no one sent the recipe for a decent curry off into space (to share with aliens).
Morning lovely ladies , great subject , as a Brummie we have more curry houses than canals lol and I'd like to think it's us if it's origins are British , but I've heard somewhere that Glasgow might be involved eh Roslyn ? lol , Bradford is also a contender I would think , oh and I suppose if not us then India might have a shot , lol , hang on I'll ask my nan , lol , 😁😁 xx
Fave Curry, From The Top~ Lamb Rogan josh, Butter Chicken, Chicken/Vegetable Korma, Beef Vindaloo...
Birmingham is usually considered the hot spot for curry, but London has an area known for it too on a street called Brick Lane, that's where the top Indian restaurants are in London. Sheba is a famous one on that street, they are famous for their lamb shank. Theyve won a bunch of awards
I'm from Birmingham. We have the balti triangle.
Manchester has the Curry Mile 😊.
We allow our curry houses free reign in Yorkshire - they aren't 'fenced in'! 😉
@@edelgyn2699 Same in Lancashire, we have free range indian takeaway all over the place
I lived in East London up until 1997. Brick Lane was not fancy then - you got a good cheap meal. The restaurants were not licenced (being Muslim) so you could bring your own booze without corkage. Having said that, I never drink with an Indian, just have salty lassi. [I also regard the collective name as Indian because the food is from the Indian Subcontinent (and anyway it all used to be British India)].
Nobody says ctm 😂🤣😂
Never herd of CTM 😂😂
Nobody calls it CTM in London
It seems like it's only called CTM in RUclipsland.
Theres a fair lot of Indian takeaways local to me, many within a stones throw if each other. Some are full blown restaurants and a few others are just small shops for takeaway, and usually poor reviews/hygiene ratings etc. The big restaurants are all solid though. I don't think its difficult to find a few really good ones probably anywhere in the country since they are so common
Chicken Tikka Masala is a lovely and very popular dish...but it IS NOT the national dish of the UK (or England). Fish & Chips....
Where does this woman get her information from !!??
NO ONE calls it CTM in the UK !!
Curry houses are NOT under threat in the UK !!
Other currys are VINDALOO, ROGAN JOSH, KORMA, TANDOORI, MADRAS, JALFREZI and many more.
Much prefer paneer in my tikka masala
I think there's a difference between a national dish and a favourite one. A national dish is one that is most associated with a country, for example you guys said fish and chips, although the French might better link Britain with roast beef.
Curry might well be the most widely consumed food type, with chicken tikka being the most popular. It's fairly bland and therefore appeals to many. Some people will eat curry two or three times a week, whilst roast beef tends to be associated with Sunday Roast or special occasions. Likewise fish and chips (used to be the only real takeaway choice until recent years) and would be consumed on Fridays (religious tradition I think) or Saturdays after attending football/soccer matches.
OK, so the Brexit argument is completely false. I’ve never once seen Eastern Europeans working in an ‘Indian Restaurant’. Since Brexit, my small town 10k residents now has another 3 ‘Indian’ restaurants. Current status 6 ‘Indian restaurants’ , 2 Chinese, 1 Mexican, 1 Italian, 1 national chain Pizza, 2 Kebab,2 decent Burger joints. 1 British restaurant and a variety of pubs serving mostly decent food.😊 oh , I forgot the Thai restaurant.
CTM ! WTH ! in the UK its called Tikka or Tikka Masala and is usually chicken or lamb, it is only the military or America that seems to have the need to reduce everything to Initials ! NY, WTF, OMG, CTM, KFC,McD. We know the initials but you wil find mainly amercan influenced millenial brits using initials. we go out for an indian, a curry or a chinese. baby boomers would cringe at going for a CTM. its rubbish, we dont order CTM , LB( lamb balti), BM (beef madras) ,BK(Beef Korma) or PV (Prawn Vindaloo) it would be mad , I dread to think how these people order Caramalised Onion Chicken Korma .
Brexit had no impact on the Indian restaurants , every tow and city in the UK has multiple Indian restaurantd they also do takeaway , and the supermarket also do microwave curry meals x
Do people think india is in EU?
Curry is easy, you should... You guys are Ohio? There's Indian/South Asian supermarket(s) available and they're excellent. Halal meat's all good, mutton's all good. You want a decent spice mix (leave out the cilantro/coriander) and definitely some Ghee - clarified butter (use sparingly).
Curry's an easy dish to do "ok", then it's just practice to get something to your taste.
I'd go ghost-chilli, but that's maybe 4-5 (big-ish) cut up for ~6 or so people. Depends how spicy you like, if you've got a slow clooker, mutton's worth a stab.
No-one calls it CTM..... I seem to recall you being adamant you don't have dnt like curry...
In most UK supermarkets you can buy a variety of pre made CTM sauces varying from pretty naf to a spice kit you mix up yourself. I buy a middle of the range Patak spice pack and mix it with yogurt. Try and find this if you have a uk importing store. Many other Indian meals are available in the same way. I would suggest most CTM, s are home made and not bought out.
All restaurants in the UK are in real trouble.
Despite what USA may say we have clamped down on Russia hard with sanctions, particularly" keep your gas and oil". Thus the price has gone through the roof. As a feel, I have not checked the numbers, a monthly energy bill of £2000 is now £20000. In that order anyway. They just have to shut down.
Politics I know Boris Johnson is Donald Trump with an IQ over 95. Quite a t*rd. Brexit is a disaster much for the reasons stated. No cheap labour no one to fill jobs at any price. Hence inflation.
Nobody calls it CTM. I was raised in an Indian/Pakistani/Bengali area and I was weened on curry dishes.
NO ONE in the UK calls it CTM, its obviously a California thing!
She's irritating me by saying it.
Its, as many curries are here, a fusion between Bangladeshi, Indian, Sri Lankan & Pakistani British tastes.
That's why there is no straight answer.
"English" curry is more hot and spicy than a South Indian family would cook at home.