Rethinking the Institutional Church

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2014
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  • @sourclam904
    @sourclam904 Год назад +14

    This was fantastic. I left the institutional church about 10 years ago. I grew closer to God more than ever after this. I do want to caution folks though, even small home groups can carry old traditions and power hungry individuals over into it. But yes, God is doing something for sure all over the world as He calls us out of this corrupt institution. It's so amazing to be a part of this. My sheep hear my voice...

    • @GregRickard
      @GregRickard Год назад +2

      There still needs to be some order, which i believe the bible provides.

  • @EmpressImpress
    @EmpressImpress Год назад +6

    I thank the Lord Jesus for this confirmation. To only meet like minded believers.

  • @Vikingshop
    @Vikingshop 6 лет назад +27

    MANY SMALL HOUSECHURCHES will reach into every corner of every neighbourhood. MANY SMALL CHURCHES will reach people NO megachurch will ever reach.

  • @dorianjohnson8480
    @dorianjohnson8480 2 года назад +20

    Hard hitting facts. We’ve created businesses, where churches are building brand more passionately than the kingdom.

  • @mauranomanon1974
    @mauranomanon1974 6 лет назад +15

    It's very difficult to start when you are by your own 😔😔😔

  • @decarlaalleyne7008
    @decarlaalleyne7008 5 лет назад +14

    This embodies everything i have been feeling but could not put into words; thank you for making this video, i now know what I have to do ! Home Services for my family and I .

  • @efparrish4159
    @efparrish4159 4 месяца назад +2

    This video covered so many aspects of true biblical church gatherings that expresses the heart of God! Thank you for taking time to share this with the world! I was truly blessed to watch all of you discover what BEING the church is, instead of GOING to church! I often say, “God didn’t give you all these people to build a big church, rather he gave you a church to build big people!” Making disciples, doing the “one another’s and allowing the Spirit of God to lead us every breath of everyday. What a crazy adventure going from Spirit-led divine appointments to the next divine appointment! This is truly being his bride the church and living life to the fullest! Thank you again! God bless you all!

  • @davidstair9657
    @davidstair9657 12 дней назад

    Hello from Canada! 27 years in the IC… 4 years out. Jesus has done wonders… no words… praise the Lord!!

  • @estherodanga4238
    @estherodanga4238 4 года назад +8

    Home fellowship is the way to go.Stopped organized church 8 months ago.My spiritual life is stronger.

  • @naturallifestyleshow
    @naturallifestyleshow 9 лет назад +24

    Enjoyed watching this. We used to do home church years ago and I would like to do it again. God bless.

    • @George040270
      @George040270 6 лет назад

      Why not create your own religion while you are at it?

    • @erxfav3197
      @erxfav3197 6 лет назад

      George Pierson ???

    • @JonathanGrandt
      @JonathanGrandt 6 лет назад

      George Pierson... care to share more of the perspective and opinion that lead to your strange comment?

    • @mauranomanon1974
      @mauranomanon1974 6 лет назад

      Why did you stop?

    • @nicholasearnest9966
      @nicholasearnest9966 5 лет назад

      @@George040270 Religion is overrated. Worship the trinity and love others. That's all we need.

  • @Gailsjournal
    @Gailsjournal 5 лет назад +7

    Amen the entire model is unbiblical. It’s alarming.

  • @kgilkey65
    @kgilkey65 8 месяцев назад +3

    Amen!! I am so thankful to God for the Holy Spirit leading me to this teaching. The Lord pulled me out of the Institutional Church approximately 5 years ago. I have struggled thinking I was in the wrong so I would visit different churches in my area to find that the Holy Spirit in me was showing me more truth about the "church" as I understood it. I have been in prayer, searching and seeking what the Lord is showing me. I now know why the Holy Spirit was calling me out of this false church. Praising God and praying for my brothers and sisters in Christ that are still seeking.

  • @sherrigibson2641
    @sherrigibson2641 6 лет назад +9

    I truly believe that this is God's will for us. Thank you for the truth

  • @TheWanderer2be
    @TheWanderer2be 6 лет назад +12

    Thank you for this incredibly important and useful video! Believers who are to survive the death spiral that institutional christianity in U.S. is currently in have no choice but to return to the biblical form of "ecclesia".

  • @benjamindantzie8053
    @benjamindantzie8053 6 лет назад +7

    So refreshing to hear these testimonies of Gods liberation of His church.

  • @diannekompler4072
    @diannekompler4072 5 лет назад +6

    Wow It was so refreshing to watch this video. Freedom is what Jesus came for. Freedom from sin. Freedom from this world. Freedom from fear and death. Frèedom from mens traditions. Todays model church says they want to set you free but bind you with their traditions. They use fear to keep people in line and subservient. They say we dont love the world but you would be hard pressed to tell the difference between the unbeliever and the so called believer. How do i know this because i have lived through it. Praise the Jesus who brought me out of it. No longer do i have to stand for the man if God, i am a man of God and so are you if you follow Jesus.

  • @johnhampton353
    @johnhampton353 4 года назад +5

    The Protestant reformation began in 1517 and did much to promote the gospel and move away from the heretical Catholic Church. Let's pray for a second reformation that will be the final step the Lord takes before He returns.

    • @thecatalysm5658
      @thecatalysm5658 6 месяцев назад

      I started writing The Catalysm of the Kingdom of Heaven in October of 2021. I had no idea at the time that it was exactly five hundred years and nine months after Luther's excommunication by Leo X.
      The creed / confession lays out the personal Priesthood of Christians.
      Maybe it's the beginning of the next Reformation.
      From the Catholic monarchy to Orthodox oligarchy, to Protestant bourgeoisie - finally the true priesthood of all believers.
      drive.google.com/file/d/14zbQzmMZiPok0KzHChgKkF2i2SBgnH5N/view?usp=drivesdk

  • @beachgirl881
    @beachgirl881 5 лет назад +3

    I grew up in a secular- atheist upbringing only wanting to know God and that way have to attend “Institutional, Brick and Mortar, “Church” only to go for some time only to leave, and in the past I would just blame my upbringing, then recently going to another Church only to go there for some time and as recently seeing a lot of what I would see & witness “Church Politics” creeping in, and I again kept dithering on attending and starting to have issues and questions about what was going on and as of this January leaving for good and this time I am and have been doing research on why I leave the “Brick and Mortar Church” and not blaming my secular past, only to get information on Home Churches and on the Institutional Churches, and it’s an eye opener and now on the process of growth and looking for a New Testament Home Church, Thank You And God Bless You ❤️✝️🙏

  •  5 дней назад

    Nowadays it's me and my familly following Jesus. We feel growing in knowledge and grace like never before.

  • @vernonsteinkamp1088
    @vernonsteinkamp1088 6 лет назад +6

    I have given up on organized church. I do know of a pastor who ended up stealing another members wife ( he already had a wife and 2 small children) Now, years later, he is a pastor at a church with his new wife and children from her. One qualification is being of one wife.

  • @bethelshiloh
    @bethelshiloh 6 месяцев назад +2

    I agreed with all but the part where the commandments are thrown out.
    I’ve been part of a home group 8 years. I love it.

    • @efparrish4159
      @efparrish4159 4 месяца назад

      He didn’t abolish the law, rather he fulfilled the law and gave the law a serious upgrade! He took the 633 laws and 10 Commandments and simplified them into two commands…love him, and love them! The first four commandments were about Him and the last six were about them! Most couldn’t remember the ten commandments much less the 633 laws, so he upgraded the laws to the new and simplified 2.0 version!

  • @paulryan5984
    @paulryan5984 8 лет назад +33

    Facts about what a 501c3 church corporation is by lawful state definition:
    The creator of a corporation is the State.
    The State is the sole authority and sovereign head over the corporation.
    The corporation is subject to the laws of the State which limits its powers.
    The corporation has no constitutionally protected rights.
    The corporation is an artificial person.
    The corporation submits to a State Charter declaring it is a creature of the State.
    The corporation is created for the benefit of the public.
    The corporation is a State franchise.
    The corporation is a privilege granted by the State. So exactly what are these 501c3 churches? They are state government churches created by the state for the public good, but Jesus the Christ is NOT the head of these churches but the state is!

    • @staracp6900
      @staracp6900 6 лет назад +2

      Are Baptist, Adventist and Jehowa Witneses also 501c3 church??

    • @rosemarysandiego1389
      @rosemarysandiego1389 6 лет назад +2

      Wow!

    • @mauranomanon1974
      @mauranomanon1974 6 лет назад +3

      Thank you brother!!

    • @Truthseeker424
      @Truthseeker424 6 лет назад +2

      Starac P yes!!!

    • @Truthseeker424
      @Truthseeker424 6 лет назад +2

      Plus those Protestant churches are daughters of the Catholic Church... which the Bible calls the Catholic Church mystery Babylon... the mother of harlots!!! 👀

  • @dw1693
    @dw1693 6 лет назад +7

    This is awesome! 😊

  • @dennisnelson9771
    @dennisnelson9771 6 лет назад +17

    The first church didn't meet just to break bread (17:30)...they met additionally for the Apostle's teaching and for fellowship

    • @mauricewilsondaddybob1307
      @mauricewilsondaddybob1307 5 лет назад +1

      Since the church is made up of Gentiles predominantly they would be listening to the Apostle Paul thier Apostle to the Gentiles.

    • @lynette_f3064
      @lynette_f3064 Год назад +3

      @@mauricewilsondaddybob1307 Actually the apostles did not stay in any one place very long. They went to plant a church, teach them, and then left the house church to run itself.

    • @gloriamiller7292
      @gloriamiller7292 9 месяцев назад

      Fellowshipping is great but we are living in the last days and ther are many hirelings controling the people of God. Jesus is the bridegroom and when He wants something done a certain way His bride out of love should obey Him. It is difficult to assemble if we are not like-minded In Christ alone, and His Words written in red guided by the Holy Spirit, instead the wolves and hirelings have infiltrated the Ecclesia of Christ the builder. I will not betray Him and fellowshipp with people who love false sheperds. And sad thing is They hardly read the Bible. It takes many many hours and dedication to hear God's voice. The Bible interprets itself, sometimes the interpretation may be found in the Old Testament. And reading the verses in its contents in the chapter! Pastors and teachers parrot other leaders instead of reading the Scriptures and letting the Holy Spirit give the spiritual food we need. I do not speak of all leaders but they are few and far between. at that time The believers had to assemle, The Bible was written later they had letters from apostle Paul and other authentic manuscrips. He had to travel from house to house . Most of them were iliterate so they gathered together with one manuscript to learn the Word and read the letters Paul wrote to encourage the saints or rebuke them! I am not sure who read his letter while he was away preaching the gospel and encouraging other communities. I guess there are some who respect Jesus as the Head of the Church,

  • @jlar1984
    @jlar1984 5 лет назад +4

    More than any thing, the church needs the Holy Spirit to move in us and through is. A dead church has less to do with structure and more to do with the degree in which we allow the spirit to flow and lead.

  • @Sunshine-gv6nd
    @Sunshine-gv6nd 3 года назад +1

    Wow! What an AWESOME video!!! Thank you Jesus. It is so refreshing to know that God is leading and guiding his children by his Spirit to the understanding of his word. Having a hunger for the truth and a rejection of false, traditional, institutionalized, doctrines of devil's throughout generations in the churches and denominations. I really enjoyed Tom's letter. He is truly a mature saint with an uncompromised understanding between the Old Testament covenant and the New Testament covenant as well as the rest of the speakers in the video. Very nicely articulated. May God continue to bless each and everyone of you in your labours and endeavors for Jesus Christ. Sincerely, Christ's servant 🤗🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @Ekklesiajourney
    @Ekklesiajourney 5 лет назад +2

    Hi Wayne, I just noticed that you posted my video. Good to know others are finding it in a way to realize the call we have to gather in the liberty where in we have been made free. Thank you Wayne.

    • @AmericanWayne
      @AmericanWayne  5 лет назад +2

      I appreciate you posting this video in segments. I gave you all of the credit and told people to subscribe to your page in the video description.

  • @paultrosclair1775
    @paultrosclair1775 5 лет назад +4

    Tremendous ! I loved it ! The one thing I would add is that we need to be careful to warn people not to name churches or incorporate them or do a 501 C. In First Corinthians, the apostle Paul pointed out that they were starting to identify themselves as the followers of Paul or of Peter, or Apollos. In doing this they were distinguishing themselves from other believers. Paul rebuked them sharply and called them CARNAL for doing this. The western institutional church has taken this much farther and as a result we have what we see today. People say "I am a member of First Baptist Church" or "I am a member of Grace Community Church" or fill in the blank with another name. This is carnal, unscriptural, and it is also about control. It is THEIR church, NOT the LORD'S church. You can't tell them anything because it is their playhouse and they make the rules, regardless of scripture. This practice also gives honor and praise to something other than Jesus Christ. On Sunday you will hear them go on and on about how wonderful (fill in the blank) church is. It's nauseating. It is worshipping the work of men's hands. There is a word for that. It's called idolatry. We must be careful to NOT fall into the same error in house churches. We must not name them, incorporate them, get 501 C status for them, nor even identify them as "so and so's church". You notice that the epistles don't say "so and so's church" . It says "the church that is IN so and so's house. When we start creating named churches, we are making not only idols, but cliques, sects, division in the body and that is severely chastened in the epistles.

  • @devieanderson451
    @devieanderson451 6 лет назад +2

    Have had a long history with the church..left near 5 yrs. ago...not sure if I could return...too many not willing to leave the system...and unwilling to return to scripture...though over the years had brought up time and again what I had read...scriptual proof, it made no difference...has been so difficult...thank you...I do by faith believe many are among them..of the true Faith...

  • @gloriamiller7292
    @gloriamiller7292 3 года назад +2

    Everything they said is right on. They are speaking according to the Word of God,100% accurate. I left the churches and read the Bible without any human interference or teachings or commentaries. I saw the difference between the traditions of men and the traditions of the apostles. I have no fellowship. I have been called a witch many times. I can not understand, I am in the Word of God most of the time. My family are witnesses. I get lonely at times but the Holy Spirit comforts me. I am so so so glad I found you. I am comforted by listening to you. Some times I think that I am wrong and in heresy. There is a site called Wicked Shepherds and when I start doubting I run to this sight. Thank you that Our Adoni brought me to you. Maranatha!

    • @racheltriplett4313
      @racheltriplett4313 2 года назад +1

      Reading your comment, felt like the story of my life. I left these religion organizations 4 years ago and I have Binle Studies in my home, but no one attends but my children and I! I have been talked about, lied on & accused of being crazy but I wouldn't change it for nothing in the world! I have really gotten to know ELOHIM'S heart through HIS word! Be Blessed my sister in CHRIST!

    • @vernalongwell1648
      @vernalongwell1648 9 месяцев назад

      Wish I lived near you, Gloria. I am exactly the same. Spend up to 8 hours a day in the word now retired, but no fellowship so it is lonely.

    • @gloriamiller7292
      @gloriamiller7292 9 месяцев назад

      I wish also. I have no fellowship either. @@vernalongwell1648 And if I start a womans home fellowship I am sure they will bring in their doctrinal errors and interpretations that pastors taught them causing blindness and when they read the Bible they filter it according to their teachers interpretation And it would cause divisions and strife behaving like the institutional Churches. I believe Christ is not pleased with that. So I have refrained from starting a fellowship and wait on the Holy Spirit to guide me. The Holy Spirit before i left the was giuding me to leave and check to see if thr churches wasdoing according the apostles tradions. I realized that these church leaders were hirlings and strangers. I emptied my mind from what tbey taught me and read only the Bible especially Our Saviours words! Wow! Now I can recognize His beautiful voice! Sorry long comment! Thank you for answering and "fellowshipping" with me , sister!

  • @crazydays4444
    @crazydays4444 9 лет назад +7

    amen amen!
    trying to keep words to minimum. but, spot on! And very glad "we are not alone!"
    The Holy Spirit will not allow me to be a pew-sitter, even with all the *well let your light shine!
    Well, walking into what people say the house of the Lord, am I the shining light of 300 people....?
    That is exactly where I do not desire to be if it is so-called made up of born-again saints in Christ!...???!

  • @mauricewilson6473
    @mauricewilson6473 6 лет назад +5

    Rightly dividing the word of Truth 2nd Timothy 2:15

  • @MBFModernHomesteading
    @MBFModernHomesteading 7 лет назад +2

    One thing I would say on the size of the churches back then is that it was a very new movement at the time so would have no other place to meet other than in homes for the most part.

    • @markthehammer3448
      @markthehammer3448 6 лет назад +2

      The real, actual, Holy, chosen church of the Lord Jesus Christ is smaller than you think it is.

  • @JohnSmith-fv7fi
    @JohnSmith-fv7fi 6 лет назад +16

    Interesting to see a Christmas tree right there in their living room in the midst of their service. People need to wake up and come completely away from Baal worship.

    • @George040270
      @George040270 6 лет назад

      Why are you associating Christmas trees with Ba'al worship?

    • @JohnSmith-fv7fi
      @JohnSmith-fv7fi 6 лет назад +7

      Because it is Baal worship. Brought to you by your good friends from the Catholic "church". Please research your recent history, Christmas as well as every other Popish tradition was outlawed until the mid 1800's when Jesuit infiltration became more prevailant in this country.
      m.ruclips.net/video/FqomQ4fF7s0/видео.html

    • @lilydejesus7984
      @lilydejesus7984 5 лет назад +3

      Because genuine believers in Yashuhua dont indulge in pagan holidays,pagan gods and pagan practices. And Christmas is a pagan holiday and the Christmas tree plays a big pagan role.

    • @moonman5543
      @moonman5543 5 лет назад +1

      Thats the dumbest thing ive ever head in my life.

    • @johnhampton353
      @johnhampton353 4 года назад +1

      And hence why we have division and not unity in the church today. Your dogmatic stance is no different than the very thing you claim to want to be free from.
      Colossians 2:16 KJV - Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

  • @barrymoley870
    @barrymoley870 5 лет назад +2

    Fantastic

  • @markleeper6850
    @markleeper6850 6 лет назад

    Love this video, it really resonates with me. Can wait until White True Believers come to the knowledge and acceptance of who the Real Hebrews are. Shalom

  • @bonniejohnson1518
    @bonniejohnson1518 3 года назад +1

    William Tyndale refused to use the Catholic term "the Church", but rather translated the ecclesia to be the congregation. However he did use the word church twice in his translation describing the Temples that pagans worshiped in..

  • @howardking3046
    @howardking3046 6 лет назад +3

    I consider myself to be in the same camp with these people! I have attended a ton of organized religions (churches) and found them to be basically the same. Brick and mortar churches exist to keep people who don’t agree with their leadership doctrines out! When any group concerns itself with lucre, it becomes a business. And, business’s primary concern is financial survival. When Jesus booted the money changers out of the temple, I understand this to mean that God is not for sale! I think that if people want to subject themselves to their brand of organized religion, it’s fine with me. People need entertainment and entertainers need the ‘business’! I discovered several years ago that I needed real answers when it came to my Creator because my time as a mortal is running out and ‘religion‘ wasn’t getting me any closer. I began committing the cardinal sin of asking questions! How dare me! I quit asking the church and began taking my questions directly to the Creator of all things, both seen and unseen. Lo and behold, He answered me! It’s called Holy communion. If you are interested, simply find a quiet place (maybe a closet?) and ask Him to talk to you. It worked for me and I know it will work for you if you are sincere. I love you in the name of our Creator, Jesus!

  • @DVEX1000
    @DVEX1000 6 лет назад +6

    I'm 34 minutes in and am in total agreement. But, nothing is being said about the the agreement made by the pagan sun worshippers (later to become Roman Catholic Church) and the Christian's on the holy holidays as ordered by Constantine, the emperor of Rome, and Sabbath day being 'Sunday' the first day of the week and a known day of worship of the false idol Ra.

  • @charliebecker4417
    @charliebecker4417 6 лет назад +7

    ecclesia, the true church

  • @vhvostik
    @vhvostik 5 лет назад +3

    This video is not getting at the root of the problem, although it says many good things. The root of the problem is that Jesus said that anyone who desires to follow after Him must deny himself, take up his cross, and lose his life in this world. This is the foundation that the early Church set in each of their lives BEFORE they set out to be a body of believers. This is the missing foundation, why so many house churches and book of Acts churches that live together continue down a similar path as the institutional church. Losing your life and denying yourself is a lifelong practice of no longer living your own life for your own survival but instead seeking first the Kingdom of God and giving up a life in this world.

    • @nohaste4me
      @nohaste4me 5 лет назад

      You are awake! To me there is no better teacher in this area than Dan Mohler, he explains it very well! and does not put himself on RUclips!! Heard that he does not even own a computer!

  • @geniuszeal205
    @geniuszeal205 16 дней назад

    People, if there is anything that you are hearing and have heard, you better ask God to show you if that is true or false! Ask God to show you the truth! Pray this prayer: “Lord God, if there is anything that I’m hearing and have heard is true or false, show it to me. Show me the truth. Thank you, Lord. In Jesus Christ name I pray. Amen.” Share this!

  • @user-mi2nv5fx9t
    @user-mi2nv5fx9t 5 лет назад

    Where can I find a church of Acts in Aurora CO?

  • @abideintheWord
    @abideintheWord 3 месяца назад +1

    Do you think I could post this video up on my channel? Thanks.

  • @cherubimX
    @cherubimX 8 месяцев назад

    @Wayne. In what year was this film made ? I‘m also yearning to find a true NT house church, where the presence of the Lord is there.

  • @keirahjohnston6373
    @keirahjohnston6373 5 лет назад +1

    Yep ! I love the LORD with all my heart but I have not been in a church building for over 5 years. ..I did though go to a church that was recently built by where I live and I attended it twice but it was very very clickish ...they didn't really want newcomers...they were content with their little groups. But that wasn't the main reason why I didn't continue going ! I'm am just tired of the same old same services I see going on in churches ! Very "religious" time schedules! ! Not really caring...just give me your tithes and offerings and for that, they will feed you once a month, pray with you (sometimes), etc etc ! ! People have told me ..."well, they're NOT all like that" but then can't give me a Name of a Church.! ! My church is every day in my home NOT just on Sundays ! ! BLESSINGS to you all !

  • @louisevoltairem.garcia3245
    @louisevoltairem.garcia3245 6 лет назад +1

    Question on 5:10... what about in Ac 13:1 where it says, "In the church at Antioch there were prophets and teachers..."

    • @BarbaraF272
      @BarbaraF272 4 года назад +1

      Acts 13:1 THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BUILDING IT IS THE BODY OF CHRIST, AND CHRIST'S BODY IS NOT A BUILDING, IT'S THE BORN AGAIN BAPTISED DISCIPLES OF JESUS CHRIST.

  • @Truthseeker424
    @Truthseeker424 6 лет назад +1

    1 Corinthians 14:33-38 KJV
    [33] For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. [34] Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. [35] And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. [36] What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? [37] If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. [38] But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.

  • @Wildflower_Breads
    @Wildflower_Breads 2 года назад

    Beautiful song at the end. Title? Who is singing?

  • @Truthseeker424
    @Truthseeker424 6 лет назад +2

    Christmas in the original church I don’t think so.

  • @choicegospelnetwork
    @choicegospelnetwork 5 лет назад

    WHAT DOES THE TREE HAVE TO DO WITH THE CHURCH ?

  • @mauricewilsondaddybob1307
    @mauricewilsondaddybob1307 6 лет назад

    Pastor Richard Jordan, and Les Feldick RUclips great teachings .

  • @gracetou8963
    @gracetou8963 4 месяца назад

    Follow the money and you will see the outright lying of the word of God.

  • @creekfinds
    @creekfinds 5 лет назад +2

    I believe everything is broken on various levels due to the fall. People and the systems we use are broken, so there is no perfect model of the church. I've quit the institutional church, but one benefit I see of the institutional church is the theological teaching/understanding many of the leaders bring . For instance, the Southern Baptist's have there own seminaries where the majority of professors have spent there life studying God's word, Church history, Ancient culture and writings, etc. Student's are taught under these professors with the idea they in turn will go back into the SB churches and become pastors/leaders, bringing an deep knowledge of God's word. I see an immense value in this. With home churches, this depth of theological understanding may not exist which opens the people up to incorrect understanding of God. On the other hand, as someone with a Masters degree from a SB seminary, there are professors and some very smart students, who I would hope never hold a position of leadership within the Church. The reason is because even though they have an amazing theological/historical understanding of all things Biblical, they have very little Christ-likeness in their heart or in their approach to people. I believe people are turning away from the institutional church because it feels more like an event than a community.

    • @junegagnon3921
      @junegagnon3921 5 лет назад +1

      creekfinds-Sadly they really don't learn much Truth at seminary. They learn a great deal of doctrine!
      That's why people are leaving the institutional church.

  • @JonathanGrandt
    @JonathanGrandt 10 месяцев назад

    Just for the sake that someone COULD go to a church gathering and get wasted reveals that we are really missing out on something 🤔 I mean by this not that anyone ought to get wasted. Obviously not, but modern church is really missing something.

  • @briancooper9125
    @briancooper9125 5 месяцев назад

    Jesus Christ our true leader and the only way to the kingdom of God! We can't buy or earn our way to heaven through these church businesses we have today!

  • @junegagnon3921
    @junegagnon3921 5 лет назад +3

    *[[Mat 23:8]] KJV* But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
    *[[Mat 23:9]] KJV* And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
    *[[Mat **23:10**]] KJV* Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
    *[[Mat **23:11**]] KJV* But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
    *[[Mat **23:12**]] KJV* And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
    *[[Rev 2:6]] KJV* But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.
    Our Savior doesn't want any one man to "Lord" it over us. He is our Master! We are all brethren and are supposed to act as such. That is why most people leave the institution of church. He wants a people not a building and not man made doctrine! He is calling His people out of her! HalleluYah!

  • @johncarr9029
    @johncarr9029 6 лет назад +1

    Do you have a church// group in IL ?

    • @Brycetimt15
      @Brycetimt15 6 лет назад

      Hello, John. We may be able to help you. I'll try to respond to you when I talk to some workers tomorrow, I believe we have many churches in the homes of believers throughout the US and countries. What part of Illinois do you live in?

  • @johnhampton353
    @johnhampton353 4 года назад

    While the home is the ideal church, a building isn't necessary bad.
    Acts 19: 9But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus.

  • @yvonneroberts9268
    @yvonneroberts9268 6 лет назад +2

    Your so right sooooo right!!!

  • @kimberlyd7398
    @kimberlyd7398 Год назад

    Amen Amen Amen

  • @drooge42
    @drooge42 6 лет назад +1

    amen

  • @user-nl5ii5lq8x
    @user-nl5ii5lq8x 2 месяца назад

    HAS ANYONE SEEN DOCUMENTARY CALLED BEWARE OF ANGELS?

  • @marcstrusa
    @marcstrusa 4 года назад

    36 Was it from you that the word of God first went forth? Or has it come to you only?
    37 If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment. 38 But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized.
    39 Therefore, my brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak in tongues. 40 But all things must be done properly and in an orderly manner.
    26 What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, it should be by two or at the most three, and each in turn, and one must interpret; 28 but if there is no interpreter, he must keep silent in the church; and let him speak to himself and to God. 29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others pass judgment. 30 But if a revelation is made to another who is seated, the first one must keep silent. 31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted; 32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets; 33 for God is not a God of confusion but of [m]peace, as in all the churches of the saints.
    34 The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. 35 If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is [n]improper for a woman to speak in church. 36 Was it from you that the word of God first went forth? Or has it come to you only?
    37 If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment. 38 But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized.
    39 Therefore, my brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak in tongues. 40 But all things must be done properly and in an orderly manner.
    I Corinthians 14
    Praise the Lord Jesus Christ

  • @ManuelPinner
    @ManuelPinner 4 года назад +1

    The Original Church of Yeshua Jesus is what is in the Bible!

  • @kimberlyd7398
    @kimberlyd7398 Год назад

    And it’s not a commandment to meet every week

  • @healandrestore
    @healandrestore 7 лет назад +2

    The salvation message is for all. We have been seperated from God because of sin. In our flesh is no good thing. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God (lying, stealing, taking the Lords name in vain, fornication, lust, hate etc). God is pure, Holy, righteous, perfect - He cannot look upon sin. You have sinned against a righteous judge.....a Holy God. The good news? God sent his only begotten son as a sinless, perfect sacrifice. Fully man yet fully God. Jesus Christ (God manifested in the flesh) died for your sins, past present and future. The blood God shed on the cross washes you clean of all unrighteousness. He took the wrath that you deserve and gave you a way to eternal life through him. Jesus Christ paid the price for all your sins. God died for you. You can be reconnected to God, forgiven and have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ....the living God. He made the biggest sacrifice for you. You can't earn salvation. No amount of going to a church building or good works will get Gods favor. Church buildings are man made religions. You have to put your total faith in Jesus Christ and what He did for you. Not trusting in yourself or thinking it's about being a good person because "there is none righteous, no not one" Romans 3:10. You need to get to the end of your own self righteousness understanding Jesus Christ is the only way. If you reject Jesus Christ, your sins are still counted against you and your punishment is hell for eternity. "For the wages of sin in death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord". Romans 6:23. God gave you a way out through Jesus Christ. "Repent ye and believe the gospel" Mark 1:15
    Between you and God, repent...... humbling yourself before the one who created you. Change your mind and direction. Turn toward God and put your faith in Jesus Christ and what he did for you. With a heart wanting a changed life and all truth letting go of self righteousness. Only God knows your heart and if you're genuine. Start by crying out to God with a humble, contrite spirit and put your faith in Jesus Christ. "Heavenly Father, have mercy on me. I'm a sinner deserving of hell. I can't save myself. I know Jesus Christ is the only way. I want to turn from my past, I want a changed life and I know only you can save me. I put all my faith in Jesus Christ and his sacrifice for my sins. I believe he died for my sins and rose 3 days later. I pray for all truth no matter the cost. Please save me and lead me into all truth. In the name of Jesus Christ amen". Seek him with all your heart.
    Luke 5:31-32King James Version (KJV)
    31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.
    32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
    Psalm 34:18King James Version (KJV)
    18 The Lord is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.
    Ephesians 2:8-9King James Version (KJV)
    8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
    9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
    John 14:6King James Version (KJV)
    6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
    1 Corinthians 15:1-4King James Version (KJV)
    15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
    2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
    3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
    4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

  • @EricLouisYoung
    @EricLouisYoung 5 лет назад

    Good video, but I hope you will make a version with audio fixed. The levels are all over the place

  • @estherodanga4238
    @estherodanga4238 4 года назад

    How do we go about marriages in regard to New Testament?

  • @kimberlyd7398
    @kimberlyd7398 Год назад

    What about teaching others in the world about Christ!

  • @paulrivalto1974
    @paulrivalto1974 Год назад

    The New Testament ( ekklesia) ( church ) ( called out one's), as recorded in the book of Acts, took the gospel good news to the whole known world of their day inside of 70 years from the Day of Pentecost. They didn't do that by building church buildings, by any man made or conceived programs, by hiring staff members to preach, organize, plan, or go to seminary! They didn't seek to institutionalize, organize, program, or even traditionalize their efforts to please any denomination or man's hierarchy. They simply obeyed Christ and His direct command to " make disciples of all nations ",( Matthew 28:18-20 ) answering the prayer to the Lord of the harvest to raise up workers for the fields ripe unto harvest. (Matthew 9:37-38 ). Christ demonstrated how to make disciples and commanded us to repeat exactly His demonstration given in the gospel narratives. Then Christ did not make His disciples in the church. He made them out there in the world God still so loves. The apostle Paul did not make disciples in the church building, Acts records no disciple being made in a church either. Acts records the saints making disciples and Christ Himself planting the local churches of Roman's, Galatians, Corinth, Ephesus and so on to impact the world from their particular location. They were always going and as they were going they fully obeyed Christ and made disciples as they went. This was the operation of that first century church. Then we got organized, we became institutions with man made traditions and programs. We began to erect buildings to call churches, we built budgets and debt to justify our offering plates. We became associations and built seminaries to train professionals in religious, denominational so-called church living. Mega churches began to be built with much fanfare..... yet all the while we were loosing ground across the world in the preaching of the gospel good news. We were no longer making disciples of all nations as was still our direct command. We were planting churches along with traditional, institutional, organized, religious programs and practices. ( never commanded us!) We were proselytizing the gospel message and adding converts. Yet we were commanded to multiply the kingdom through disciple making which includes the preaching, teaching and demonstration of the gospel good news. In our disobedience we have today, as I post this some 5 billion people on our planet who have never, ever, heard even one redemptive word of Christ Jesus. ( The Gospel )
    Christ gave us this prophecy: " This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a witness to every nation and then the end will come. " Matthew 24:14. Then Christ said this: " If you love Me, you will obey My commandments. " John 14:15..... Well.... Do We?

  • @dhearndon
    @dhearndon 4 года назад

    What do you do if you start off with a small group in a home and then more people want to join it and your busting at the seams? Thats why you go to a church building that holds more people. If they just want money all the time, I would leave.

    • @christiancommunityclub762
      @christiancommunityclub762 4 года назад

      Can gather even in the open air..but if the weather condition is not good that might be a problem as well..anyway God will surely take care of his flock..just have faith..blessings

    • @Gailsjournal
      @Gailsjournal Год назад +4

      Open air. Or split it into more homes

  • @nevig6557
    @nevig6557 6 лет назад

    Edifying has now taken on a new meaning. Its mostly for people loving fairytales..and any form of correction in all that is hateful..ugly..unbrotherly..accusing etc..Such is the spirit of WICKEDNESS among actual 'christians' today..So, its true that MANY , exactly as scripture says, will go to 'eternal damnation'...and that prolific WEEPING, is because all expect to simply teleport themselves into the Kingdom..on fables...

  • @oriatalyah9576
    @oriatalyah9576 6 лет назад +2

    embassy of heaven website explains more, as does kingwatch (ron mckensie)

  • @marcstrusa
    @marcstrusa 4 года назад

    9 (Now this expression, “He ascended,” what does it mean except that He also had descended into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He who descended is Himself also He who ascended far above all the heavens, so that He might fill all things.) 11 And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ; 13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ. 14 As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming; 15 but [i]speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ, 16 from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together by what every joint supplies, according to the proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love.
    Ephesians 4

  • @marcstrusa
    @marcstrusa 4 года назад

    Therefore, putting aside all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander, 2 like newborn babies, long for the pure milk of the word, so that by it you may grow in respect to salvation, 3 if you have tasted the kindness of the Lord.
    As Living Stones
    4 And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in the sight of God, 5 you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 For this is contained in Scripture:
    “Behold, I lay in Zion a choice stone, a precious corner stone,
    And he who believes in Him will not be disappointed.”
    7 This precious value, then, is for you who believe; but for those who disbelieve,
    “The stone which the builders rejected,
    This became the very corner stone,”
    8 and,
    “A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense”;
    for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed.
    9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; 10 for you once were not a people, but now you are the people of God; you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
    11 Beloved, I urge you as aliens and strangers to abstain from fleshly lusts which wage war against the soul. 12 Keep your behavior excellent among the Gentiles, so that in the thing in which they slander you as evildoers, they may because of your good deeds, as they observe them, glorify God in the day of visitation.
    I Peter 2

  • @junewiggins7300
    @junewiggins7300 6 лет назад +1

    This video throws out the baby with the bathwater. Home churches are fine. The "institutional church" is fine too. There can be a deadness to both kinds as well. There was too much putting down of churches as well as putting down of pastors.

    • @JonathanGrandt
      @JonathanGrandt 6 лет назад +1

      June Wiggins so in this instance is the “baby” the institutional church or is it the Christian people who are in that particular setting? If it’s the institution, I would say that it is a hindrance at best. If it’s the people then you merely have Gods people meeting in a way that hinders them.
      At any rate, If the baby is dead, toss it out with the bath water. Is that mean to say?

    • @jlar1984
      @jlar1984 5 лет назад +2

      I agree that there are institutional churches that do meet the needs of the body. However we are taught to make disciples. When you have hundreds of people in a church there is no way one leader is going to feed everyone let alone disciple them which is the point of ministry. So whatever the setting is if we’re not making disciples we aren’t doing it right.

    • @jlar1984
      @jlar1984 5 лет назад +3

      The body should be given the opportunity to speak and minister to each other. The setting of the mainstream church does not allow for the church body to minister. The only one ministering is the preacher or pastor. There is a lack of dialogue.

    • @Gailsjournal
      @Gailsjournal 5 лет назад +1

      Jlarios06 amen. Everyone sharing must be done for the strengthening of the church

  • @michaelmanntn
    @michaelmanntn Месяц назад

    There's some stuff biblical and yet also some stuff just as wrong as the institutional church. God's Law is not abolished. Jesus said "do not think I came to abolish the Law or Propets. I did not come but to fulfill. Until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or tittle will by no means pass away until ALL has been fulfilled. If you break the least of these commandments and teach men so will be least in the Kingdom of Heaven. He who does them and teaches men so will be called greatest in the Kingdom of Hesven." OK, they get a lot right about what the church should look like and what is done today. I'll give a like to the video because the majority of what they say I agree with. His Second coming has not happened so all has not been fulfilled. The bible also says "The patience of the saints is those who keep God's Commandments and their faith in Jesus. " We should live by the Holy Bible as our doctrine, not our doctrine instead of the Holy Bible. Just my thoughts. God Bless.

  • @barrington2262
    @barrington2262 4 месяца назад

    Wow! This is excellent!!

  • @believeinjesusreadbiblerea5878
    @believeinjesusreadbiblerea5878 3 года назад

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    ¹⁶ For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
    ¹⁷ For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
    ¹⁸ He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
    “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
    - John 14:6 (KJV)
    John 6 (KJV)
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    ³² Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
    ³³ For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
    ³⁴ Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.
    ³⁵ And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
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    The truth is only in Lord Jesus Christ and Bible 📖💯♥️👈 believe only in Bible fallow his wards 📖💯♥️👈 .
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    ²⁴ For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
    ²⁵ Behold, I have told you before.
    ²⁶ Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
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    ²⁴ God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
    ²⁵ Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
    ²⁶ And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
    ²⁷ That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
    ²⁸ For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
    ²⁹ Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
    ³⁰ And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
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  • @lucb.9691
    @lucb.9691 5 лет назад +1

    In wanting to be different from the catholics, most churches ended up being the same as them. Sunday worship, eating pork and rats, christmas etc. The church of the book of Acts kept sabbaths, passover, the feast of unleavened bread and were teaching mainly the books of Moses. That is the true church to me and I am not changing my mind. Goodbye.

  • @EdMcCornhole
    @EdMcCornhole 5 лет назад

    Church is boring....yawn.

  • @PInk77W1
    @PInk77W1 5 лет назад +1

    God said to David “I will build u a throne and it SHALL last forever.”
    Good Luck putting a throne in a home.
    The church is the KINGDOM of God on earth.
    Churches in the book of Acts met in houses
    But it was never commanded to be that way forever.
    Jesus was the church leader at the Last Supper.
    And today 2000yrs later the priest is in the place of Jesus at
    The Roman Catholic mass

    • @nicholasearnest9966
      @nicholasearnest9966 5 лет назад

      +Amen!

    • @PInk77W1
      @PInk77W1 3 года назад

      Ric McGuire Jesus said to the apostles
      “He who hears you hears ME
      He who rejects YOU rejects ME.”
      Lk 10:16
      Your opinion doesn’t count.
      Jesus words DO COUNT.
      Yes man acts in the place of Jesus
      Because of Jesus will.
      I call God my Father and I call my dad my Father, because of Gods will.
      That’s how it works, whether u agree or not.
      That’s how it works, wether u like it or not.

    • @PInk77W1
      @PInk77W1 3 года назад

      Ric McGuire the Bible disagrees with YOU.
      “They remained faithful to the teaching of the apostles.”
      Acts 2:42
      Last I checked the apostles were sinners.
      If u don’t understand that Jesus set up a church that we MUST follow, you miss Jesus entirely.
      Jesus said
      “If your brother won’t listen to the church
      Treat him as an outsider.”
      Mt 18:17
      You sadly don’t listen to the church ( singular)

  • @PInk77W1
    @PInk77W1 5 лет назад +1

    The Lords supper is not a full meal. It’s bread and wine. You guys are anti church.
    The bread and wine is JESUS !!
    Jesus said
    “Truly I say to you
    Unless you eat the flesh of the
    Son of Man and drink his blood
    You have no life in you.”
    Jn 6:53

    • @nicholasearnest9966
      @nicholasearnest9966 5 лет назад

      "Then many of his disciples who were listening said, 'This saying is hard; who can accept it?'" John 6: 60
      Him Bike, I totally agree with you. But many in this thread will sadly fall under the category of John 6: 60. God bless you and your evangelizing.

  • @PInk77W1
    @PInk77W1 5 лет назад +1

    The Roman Catholic Church is the one True Church.
    It has been for 2000yrs just like Jesus said
    “I will build •MY• church and it will not fail.”
    Jesus banded his AUTHORITY to the apostles
    And the apostles handed their AUTHORITY to the
    Next generation.
    “His office let another man take.” Acts 1:20
    The authority of the apostles which is the authority of Jesus
    Has been handed down generation to generation for 2000yrs
    And this will never cease. God is forever. His church is forever.
    The church is the “bride” of Christ. So there will be no divorce.

    • @nicholasearnest9966
      @nicholasearnest9966 5 лет назад

      Yes!!! Amen! Alleluia!!

    • @bonniejohnson1518
      @bonniejohnson1518 3 года назад +2

      thats all Catholic fables, and witchcraft superstitions..

    • @PInk77W1
      @PInk77W1 3 года назад

      @@bonniejohnson1518 supernatural not superstitious

  • @PInk77W1
    @PInk77W1 5 лет назад +1

    You guys miss the Bible completely.