Glad to see someone who really appreciates 4°. It's always been one of my favorites and I've found it to be a massively underrated song in their catalogue
Wholeheartedly agree and am guilty of disregarding most of the tracks on Undertow. Only this year (been a fan since 1997) have I really started to appreciate the greatness and depth of Undertow. 4° gets played at least half a dozen times a day when I'm working currently.
You both have now discovered the thing that makes certain music great, and Tool has been a master at this. Ten people can hear the same song and each will come up with their own opinion as to the meaning. Sure, the songwriter has their meaning and reasons for the song, but like all art, isn’t it subjective? You both are doing a fantastic job made more enjoyable when opposing ideas create thought provoking banter, much like today’s two songs achieved. Plus 4* is my absolute favorite Tool song!
I love love love how you two have so different reactions to the same songs. There is no right answer, there is no wrong...it IS what YOU want it to mean...
I like the fact that they start with studio albums. It's important - at least I would find it interesting to see - the reaction to a song recorded live, 'cause it's where the quality of the show and projection of a band is felt. I also like the order they have taken since it allows us to see the evolution of the band. Thanks for making these videos so entertaining. A hug from Costa Rica!
Undertow is such a great song. Beautiful metaphor for addiction. Undertow is a current beneath the surface of the water that cant be seen and can pull you under
It just struck me that she reminds me of a teacher grading an oral presentation. She's sitting there concentrating and taking notes while listening. Oh, it's sooooo good. Every now and then she nods her head and gives you a "Hmmmm." Dammit. Now I HAVE to subscribe. ;-) Cheers from Florida.
As far as I can tell, 4° is one of the songs that's at least superficially about what people speculated from the beginning when it came out-- True or not, the adolescent rumor is that the rectum is 4°F warmer than the vagina, and the only explanation I've ever seen that seemed to fully make sense is that it is about convincing someone to try anal sex. And so, it's a metaphor for opening yourself to new experience that you're curious about but not entirely comfortable with, and it could also touch on scenarios where someone is trying to convince you to try stuff you're ambivalent about since the narrator does get a bit pushy at points-- "Knock me down, I'll come back running, Knock you down, It won't be long now."
@@initum1599 Maynard was raised in a very religious household but came to aggressively reject organized religion. Undertow seems to be about being repeatedly seduced by the comfort of religious belief despite being less rationally convinced each time. I don't personally sense much of an intentional connection between the songs.
@@initum1599 Its been whispered, and said by, Maynard that the Tool days and earlyAPC days...lots and lots of women. Seeing APC in the early 2000's I watched the roadies round up the young girls for back stage lol In a 2018 interview he addressed it, saying some people have chemical dependency in this life, he had an ego one...which lead to LOTS of groupies..lol If I'm not mistaken a fomous groupie once was remarking about all the lovers she had in rock and their kink so to say. She said Maynard.."Anal Sex" So yeah...I think Maynard like butt stuff enough to right a song about it lol I like ot think the song from the '10k Days' album "Jambi" is in reference to how he would trade his old life of "rock star sex, drugs, etc.." for his family now. "Feast like a sultan I do On treasures and flesh, never few" "If I could I'd wish it all away If I thought tomorrow would take you away You, my peace of mind, my all, my center Just tryin' to hold on one more day Damn my eyes, damn my eyes Damn my eyes if they should compromise the fulcrum If wants and needs divide me, then I might as well be gone"
Maynard's lyrics have always been very metaphorical. It's not literally about convincing someone to try anal sex. From my perspective,. it is about finding an alternate way to cope with harmful desires. Even if that means doing something that is less desireable and possibly viewed negatively, it satisfied the crushing need. And in satisfying that need, they can better cope with the desires. This also fall is line with many drug/addiction interpretations; following the relapse, other methods are explored... for example methadone. Just because you don't like the imagery, it doesn't mean the message was misinterpreted, nor does it mean it is adolescent. Perhaps you meant vulgar?
There are probably about10 Tool songs that are a level above the others for me. My favorite of them is usually the one I just finished listening to. Haha. Great job. Have fun, stay safe.
I both envy her and feel bad for her. There are about 70 or so tool songs remaining. Probably about 50 songs with actual lyrics and 20 interludes and different shit like that. I wish I could hear tool for the very first time again and truly am jealous of anybody who gets to do so. Closest I came to that was that i recently rediscovered A Perfect Circle. That's about it
It would be interesting to hear from the both of you, your 2 or 3 favorite songs from each of the albums as you finish them. Choosing favorites is so dynamic for me, it would be really cool to include it in your summation. This is such a great idea from the both of you. Its compelling, cant wait for Aenima!
I just found you last week and I am so happy to see you have a new video up! I'm going to watch this later but I came now to like and comment because you're awesome 🤘
Maynerd writes a lot about his mother's struggles with her health and her faith through it all. She was bed ridden for 10,000 days hence the album name.,....I think a lot of his songs reflect what he was going through, but the beautiful thing about great writers is that they write it in a way so that people can make their own interpretations.
As someone who has been stuck on the cycle of addiction for years, I see the Undertow's lyrics as the description of the terrible frustration that you experience after you've been relapsed once more, even if you told yourself that it will never going to happen again. But of course, that voice that speaks from beneath the water, twice as clear as heaven, twice as loud as reason ( cravings and rationalizations that makes your adicted brain, to convince you why this is so good for you, putting you in this particular state of EUPHORIA) is really strong that ends by surrounding you and waping you away one more time. After all that, in your mind only remain the questions, shame and terrible frustration. "How I could let this happen?, Why I can't get ride of this? Why I can't just die instead?". So 4° would be that same VOICE in your head speaking to you once more. Telling you to give up all this boundaries that previously you put yourself. Taking it all even further. Anyway, you've been already relapsed, right?.
So in an old interview Maynard and the band jokingly refer to a book they discovered that deals with Lacrynmology. Help me out TOOL family. The process or belief of healing through water. We are born in water or amniotic fluid. We as Catholics believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We cry or leak water through the lacryn glands in our eyes we when are emotional as a form or process of healing. We bath to keep clean or even when it rains and your standing in the rain as if you are going through some sort of cleansing or baptism or a cleansing of the earth. TOOL refers to water in many of their songs so look and listen for it. Great video! Yes I think it refers to drugs or relapse in drugs and being caught in the undertow. I live near the beach so undertows are very common and you can feel it pulling your feet out from under you. In the first part of Undertow he says twice as high as heaven and then half as high as heaven meaning the second time you do a drug like heroin you only get half as high. Its never like that first high so people keep doing it chasing that first high. 4 degrees meaning is that the anus is 4° warmer than the vagina because of the muscles surrounding the sphincter. So look at the lyrics in that respect. I think it refers back to Prison sex.
For me, I always looked at 4° as having a meaning that relates to body temperature. At 98.6, we are warm, living and healthy. But if you were in a place that was cold, dark and dying, which would be below 95 degrees, it would be considered hypothermic. In the sense of the song, he is locked away, in this cold, dark place inside himself, not living and letting it consume him until death. But, if he were to climb up and out, just 4 degrees, he would be whole, living and taking it all in, finding that hidden treasure that he has inside himself that he has yet to reach. But, it's up to him which part he wants to kill off, and ultimately, will decide his fate. Basically, what he could become by just warming up that small amount would be freeing himself of his burden and rising above. But, that's just always been my take on the song.
Tool is truly like great art, everyone has different opinions on the meaning. Which is one of the things that makes the band wonderful. My interpretation of Undertow was always the complacency to the point of detriment created by addiction. Do you want cold and shaky or a warm blanket? The choice is all too easy. With 4° I always saw it as another more apocalyptic view of his, referring to the very delicate temperate world we live on and how easy it could end. But reading these comments my opinion may have now changed. Anyway great video, keep them coming and thank you.
Hello! I am loving y'all's content. A subscriber since, I think, the second or third video. I'm a long haul truck driver in the US. Great music with insightful discussions after make the miles and hours fly by. (Don't really have to watch, just listen.) I had a thought when you were talking about already having listened to some songs off of some of Tool's later albums. Maybe go ahead and listen to those songs again as they come on the album. You may find something different in them in the context of the entire album, maybe not. I think it will help keep the cohesiveness of the album. Just a thought. It's y'all's channel. Do what you want. Thanks again for great content and discussions.
Yeah I got from undertow as the inner struggle. Push and pull thats goes through the awakening proccess. Baptism reference means the cleansing of the soul. 4°I believe is guiding you to find your inner wisdom.....again it all depends where you are at consciously you always get a different interpretation.
In undertow is a current that is running separately underneath the surface of the ocean. It is not visible so people are often not aware and it will grab them and pull them under and drag them out to see.
TOOL and almost all modern bands were influenced by LED ZEPPELIN and PINK FLOYD. You definitely need to react to these amazing influential progressive rock bands. 🤞✌
You should hear Cam Cole sing Tattoo Rings. It's the most beautiful love song I've ever heard. The rest of his songs are awesome too. He sings, plays guitar & drums with his feet all at same time, & never misses a beat. He is AWESOME
Look at AA, the program is very spiritual. There are definitely parallels between the two and I think the dude was on to something that didn't get developed. Great job, a touch long but interesting to hear your thought process.
Never heard of the baptism take on undertow... Very interesting take! I always took it as drug addiction.... The second hit is twice as high as heaven... Then 3rd hit is half as clear ( the more you do drugs, the less it gets you high... So you then have to do more)
For me, 4° is about your own inner struggle within your passive aggressive self. His voice is the agression the words are the passive. When he reaches 4° it's both feelings understanding each other. They both matter, they both need to be understood & the both should be allowed to grow inside the vessel. 4° warmer, was the point where both symbios understood & agreed to grow together.
Well done as usual. I would like to hear your interpretations and opinions regarding the musicianship. What was your tastes in music prior to hearing TOOL. Thank you
Hello from Sacramento, California! I think Maynard stays vague and ambiguous in his lyrics on purpose....mostly to screw with us. Lol. 1000 different people will interpret his lyrics 1000 different ways. Which makes the music of TOOL all the much more brilliant and cerebral. I’m really enjoying taking this journey with you and am so excited to see you experiencing what’s to come. Tool is by far my favorite but At some point you really need to get into Tesseract and Source. I think you’ll enjoy those as well. Spiral out! Keep going!
I see this whole album very similar to the hero’s journey or Dante Infernos. A persons downward spiral to hell and back, losing pieces but gaining new perspectives and appreciations. 4 degrees to me is sort of the last ditch attempt to enjoy and take one more hit of whatever that destructive behavior would be, before eventually drowning his dark side violently in Flood in hopes to be born again but failing.
I love this interpretation actually (him), I can agree that to me it sounds like it speaks to the same metaphor. More generally, I think (and it's in all albums) the appreciation of evil side, in a sense that knowing one's evil side is necessary to use the good side. Ying yang ☯
I believe you are both correct. If you look at the bands, kind of trolling about the book of Lachrymology, the science of crying and pain as therapy, signifies that you are both right. Baptism and change, thru the pain of addiction and withdrawal.
36:58. The last song on album is unreal. Also, if you miss the hidden track on this album, if it is hidden for you, then you have missed out in a monumental way. Edit. So, I guess the track isn’t hidden. It’s right on the album. It was a crazy night the first time I heard it. In the original cd, the gap between Flood and Discustipated, was a long joint. I had fallen asleep after Flood. I had just had knee surgery, was on vicodin, and beer when I fell asleep. I woke up to the chorus...it was terrifying.
Larry Foster I did survive. We all, well I’m sure almost all of us survived. Great time to be alive. It’s so strange. So surreal. So historic. I love it. Humans are divided in two. Those that respect science, and those that hate science and want the world destroyed, via the death religion they are in. Whichever one, there’s thousands. They need the world to be destroyed so that they can get to heaven. So, they are actively trying to destroy the world.
Hey! Not fishing for more likes or anything (second comment), but I had a thought and wanted to put it here because it made me think of your discussions. I'm not saying this is related to anything but if something is 4° away from from something else on a map, it doesnt seem very far away but in reality it is a good distance away.
I"ve always suspected Undertow, both the song itself and the album title, to have a deeper meaning for the band as a whole. I see it as a metaphor for how the band feels about suddenly becoming a huge success and music industry sensation. They in essence have been swept away by the undertow of the music industry, pulling them into the business side of things which I think they couldn't stand (see Ticks and Leeches for example). I don't believe any of the members really wanted a ton of attention and fame and they experienced it all very quickly with their first album drawing attention from all sources in the music industry; ones they I suspect they despised like MTV. In 1993, Headbanger's Ball (a show on MTV devoted to metal/hard rock music) was interviewing Maynard: ruclips.net/video/k3lU8sixVcw/видео.html. In the interview it seems that Maynard really doesn't want to be answering this interviewer's questions and is relatively dismissive at first answering her with short and humorous answers. The MTV interviewer continues to press him about the band's inspiration and where they draw their ideas from, bringing up a book that supposedly inspired the band. Then Maynard goes on to talking about this book written by Ronald P. Vincent and talks about trying to get the book published, what the book means, and so on. The joke here is the book doesn't exist, he is just giving a joke answer. This is the perfect example of why I love both MJK and Tool; their attitude is to not be too serious, pretentious, or self-absorbed. An attitude shared by Melvins, one of the bands that influenced Tool. There's some other interesting stuff in the interview but I think it really captures Maynard's demeanor in the early days of Tool. Also I believe it is pronounced on-eh-ma as opposed to in-eh-ma. If that makes sense lol.
Maynerd claims he was abducted by aliens as a kid. He says they told him he's their chosen 1. Tool has songs about it. I forget the titles, tho. He has 12 college degrees, his own winery and does all the claymation for Tool's videos. I suggest you hear Right in 2. Watch the animated video. It helps with understanding what the song's about. Love your vids. Peace out with some grease out
Lmao, wtf you talking about? 12 college degrees? Hahaha, he went to art school after the army for interior design and set design, then moved to la where he ended up becoming friends with adam jones and the guys from the band green jello, then formed tool, wondering when he’s had time to acquire all these degrees lol, there definitely wasn’t time or money to do so in the early years, then later he moved to Arizona and started his vineyard, learned to make his own wine and started a jiu jitsu studio so he had someplace to train in the area, and started a family, so between that and touring, not much time left over for degrees lol, he is smart enough to hold multiple degrees though and very well read. By the way, Adam Jones did the claymation, which should have been obvious as when tool started out his day job was as a special effects artist who worked on some pretty big films like Jurassic Park and the second Terminator film to name just a couple, the band was only supposed to be a side gig but it took off.
@@cerebralfailure8804 I saw an interview with him, not long after Lateralus dropped. The man claimed to have 12 degrees. 1 in music, 1 in production, 1 in claymation, and on & on he talked. Its been years now but, I'll never forget it, because it amazed me. He said that ppl waste too much time, and anything is possible if we'll work at it. He's a very amazing man, or it was a fake interview. Will try to find it again
Initum lots of religious references. Maynard's mom was a devout Christian who suffered a paralyzing brain aneurysm for 10,000 days before she passed. I feel that Maynard has great anger towards religion.
I recommend reading his authorized biography. Better yet, listen to the audiobook version, as Maynard himself reads the sidebar content throughout. He explores this more directly, and I think it's safe to say that it's not religion itself that bothers him but the nature of some of the people associated with it.
I wanna recommend you listen to Jimi's Chicken Shack. Their 1st album is best to me. When You Die, You're Dead is their best song. Blood and High are great 1s too
What??? Wow! I have a Jimmy's chicken shack album, someone gave me maybe 25 yrs ago! I gotta see if I still have it. Never really listened to it I don't think.
@@66marbor I hope it's the Pushing the Salmonella Envelope album. Every song on it is great. School Bus, High, Sitting With the Dog,... Great songs. I disagree with some lyrics but, that's ok. It's great tunes
@@munkeebranestoo5259 I have it! A catholic girl I was dating gave me that and rusted root! She was going to school in Stubenville, Ohio. We were both from southern Ontario, I would go down and visit. Watched the Steelers Cowboys SB at a bar in Pit and a Penguins Flyers game. I also visited her in Annapolis when she was there, sorry rambling. Guess I never gave Jimmie a chance. I'm going to give it a listen and see if I can recall any songs. Anyway that's cool, thanks.
@@66marbor definitely check it out. Each song is so different. Another Day is kinda reggae. Pay attention to the lyrics. You've really been missing out. When you listen, lay down, close your eyes & see the music. Best way to experience
3:40. In this day and age, as a reactor, you almost have to have correct lyrics. It’s not how the art from this band was meant to be observed, I believe, but it’s not nineteen ninety any longer. All things are altered by time, regardless of the medium.
Glad to see someone who really appreciates 4°. It's always been one of my favorites and I've found it to be a massively underrated song in their catalogue
Undertow is one of their best album...4 ° is one of my favorite too, the guitar work and the atmosphere is unique
Wholeheartedly agree and am guilty of disregarding most of the tracks on Undertow. Only this year (been a fan since 1997) have I really started to appreciate the greatness and depth of Undertow. 4° gets played at least half a dozen times a day when I'm working currently.
@Netuno Undertow was what got me into Tool.
@@mightyquinn38 Same here.
Spent many a bloody knuckles banging the floor to this album in the 90s.
You both have now discovered the thing that makes certain music great, and Tool has been a master at this. Ten people can hear the same song and each will come up with their own opinion as to the meaning. Sure, the songwriter has their meaning and reasons for the song, but like all art, isn’t it subjective? You both are doing a fantastic job made more enjoyable when opposing ideas create thought provoking banter, much like today’s two songs achieved. Plus 4* is my absolute favorite Tool song!
I love that everyone has a different experience listening to Tool, Music for the soul!!
I love love love how you two have so different reactions to the same songs. There is no right answer, there is no wrong...it IS what YOU want it to mean...
I like the fact that they start with studio albums. It's important - at least I would find it interesting to see - the reaction to a song recorded live, 'cause it's where the quality of the show and projection of a band is felt.
I also like the order they have taken since it allows us to see the evolution of the band.
Thanks for making these videos so entertaining. A hug from Costa Rica!
Undertow is such a great song. Beautiful metaphor for addiction. Undertow is a current beneath the surface of the water that cant be seen and can pull you under
I love 4° also!One of my favorites...lyrically and instrumentally.
Cant wait to follow you through the other albums! They get better as they progress!
Initum Rich from Orlando. LOL. You'll say this is probably my favorite a dozen more times. Keep up the good work.
It just struck me that she reminds me of a teacher grading an oral presentation. She's sitting there concentrating and taking notes while listening. Oh, it's sooooo good. Every now and then she nods her head and gives you a "Hmmmm." Dammit. Now I HAVE to subscribe. ;-) Cheers from Florida.
I love Tool! They always bring a great discussion!!
4 Degrees is the best lyrical imagery / concept ever realized in a song. so clever.
Looking forward to hearing the Flood reaction after this lead in. imo its the most underrated Tool song.
Those are my favorite songs from my favorite Tool album.
As far as I can tell, 4° is one of the songs that's at least superficially about what people speculated from the beginning when it came out-- True or not, the adolescent rumor is that the rectum is 4°F warmer than the vagina, and the only explanation I've ever seen that seemed to fully make sense is that it is about convincing someone to try anal sex. And so, it's a metaphor for opening yourself to new experience that you're curious about but not entirely comfortable with, and it could also touch on scenarios where someone is trying to convince you to try stuff you're ambivalent about since the narrator does get a bit pushy at points-- "Knock me down, I'll come back running, Knock you down, It won't be long now."
Interesting, what if it can actually link to undertow - as being the start of new beginning, like loosing virginity? Hmm, does it make any sense?
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@@initum1599 Maynard was raised in a very religious household but came to aggressively reject organized religion. Undertow seems to be about being repeatedly seduced by the comfort of religious belief despite being less rationally convinced each time. I don't personally sense much of an intentional connection between the songs.
The perfect couple song
@@initum1599 Its been whispered, and said by, Maynard that the Tool days and earlyAPC days...lots and lots of women. Seeing APC in the early 2000's I watched the roadies round up the young girls for back stage lol In a 2018 interview he addressed it, saying some people have chemical dependency in this life, he had an ego one...which lead to LOTS of groupies..lol If I'm not mistaken a fomous groupie once was remarking about all the lovers she had in rock and their kink so to say. She said Maynard.."Anal Sex"
So yeah...I think Maynard like butt stuff enough to right a song about it lol
I like ot think the song from the '10k Days' album "Jambi" is in reference to how he would trade his old life of "rock star sex, drugs, etc.." for his family now.
"Feast like a sultan I do
On treasures and flesh, never few"
"If I could I'd wish it all away
If I thought tomorrow would take you away
You, my peace of mind, my all, my center
Just tryin' to hold on one more day
Damn my eyes, damn my eyes
Damn my eyes if they should compromise the fulcrum
If wants and needs divide me, then I might as well be gone"
Maynard's lyrics have always been very metaphorical. It's not literally about convincing someone to try anal sex. From my perspective,. it is about finding an alternate way to cope with harmful desires. Even if that means doing something that is less desireable and possibly viewed negatively, it satisfied the crushing need. And in satisfying that need, they can better cope with the desires. This also fall is line with many drug/addiction interpretations; following the relapse, other methods are explored... for example methadone. Just because you don't like the imagery, it doesn't mean the message was misinterpreted, nor does it mean it is adolescent. Perhaps you meant vulgar?
There are probably about10 Tool songs that are a level above the others for me. My favorite of them is usually the one I just finished listening to. Haha. Great job. Have fun, stay safe.
I both envy her and feel bad for her. There are about 70 or so tool songs remaining. Probably about 50 songs with actual lyrics and 20 interludes and different shit like that. I wish I could hear tool for the very first time again and truly am jealous of anybody who gets to do so. Closest I came to that was that i recently rediscovered A Perfect Circle. That's about it
It would be interesting to hear from the both of you, your 2 or 3 favorite songs from each of the albums as you finish them. Choosing favorites is so dynamic for me, it would be really cool to include it in your summation. This is such a great idea from the both of you. Its compelling, cant wait for Aenima!
Thank you, I agree this is a great idea :)
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Maynerd writes a lot about his mother's struggles with her health and her faith through it all. She was bed ridden for 10,000 days hence the album name.,....I think a lot of his songs reflect what he was going through, but the beautiful thing about great writers is that they write it in a way so that people can make their own interpretations.
Very good conversational analysis of TOOL tracks that are somewhat underappreciated. Quite enjoyable.
As someone who has been stuck on the cycle of addiction for years, I see the Undertow's lyrics as the description of the terrible frustration that you experience after you've been relapsed once more, even if you told yourself that it will never going to happen again.
But of course, that voice that speaks from beneath the water, twice as clear as heaven, twice as loud as reason ( cravings and rationalizations that makes your adicted brain, to convince you why this is so good for you, putting you in this particular state of EUPHORIA) is really strong that ends by surrounding you and waping you away one more time.
After all that, in your mind only remain the questions, shame and terrible frustration. "How I could let this happen?, Why I can't get ride of this? Why I can't just die instead?".
So 4° would be that same VOICE in your head speaking to you once more. Telling you to give up all this boundaries that previously you put yourself. Taking it all even further. Anyway, you've been already relapsed, right?.
So in an old interview Maynard and the band jokingly refer to a book they discovered that deals with Lacrynmology. Help me out TOOL family. The process or belief of healing through water. We are born in water or amniotic fluid. We as Catholics believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We cry or leak water through the lacryn glands in our eyes we when are emotional as a form or process of healing. We bath to keep clean or even when it rains and your standing in the rain as if you are going through some sort of cleansing or baptism or a cleansing of the earth. TOOL refers to water in many of their songs so look and listen for it. Great video! Yes I think it refers to drugs or relapse in drugs and being caught in the undertow. I live near the beach so undertows are very common and you can feel it pulling your feet out from under you. In the first part of Undertow he says twice as high as heaven and then half as high as heaven meaning the second time you do a drug like heroin you only get half as high. Its never like that first high so people keep doing it chasing that first high. 4 degrees meaning is that the anus is 4° warmer than the vagina because of the muscles surrounding the sphincter. So look at the lyrics in that respect. I think it refers back to Prison sex.
For me, I always looked at 4° as having a meaning that relates to body temperature. At 98.6, we are warm, living and healthy. But if you were in a place that was cold, dark and dying, which would be below 95 degrees, it would be considered hypothermic. In the sense of the song, he is locked away, in this cold, dark place inside himself, not living and letting it consume him until death. But, if he were to climb up and out, just 4 degrees, he would be whole, living and taking it all in, finding that hidden treasure that he has inside himself that he has yet to reach. But, it's up to him which part he wants to kill off, and ultimately, will decide his fate. Basically, what he could become by just warming up that small amount would be freeing himself of his burden and rising above. But, that's just always been my take on the song.
Respect bro! That was a great take on this song, never thought of it this way.
You will have many new favorite songs as you go through each album.
Tool is truly like great art, everyone has different opinions on the meaning. Which is one of the things that makes the band wonderful. My interpretation of Undertow was always the complacency to the point of detriment created by addiction. Do you want cold and shaky or a warm blanket? The choice is all too easy.
With 4° I always saw it as another more apocalyptic view of his, referring to the very delicate temperate world we live on and how easy it could end. But reading these comments my opinion may have now changed. Anyway great video, keep them coming and thank you.
Hello! I am loving y'all's content. A subscriber since, I think, the second or third video. I'm a long haul truck driver in the US. Great music with insightful discussions after make the miles and hours fly by. (Don't really have to watch, just listen.) I had a thought when you were talking about already having listened to some songs off of some of Tool's later albums. Maybe go ahead and listen to those songs again as they come on the album. You may find something different in them in the context of the entire album, maybe not. I think it will help keep the cohesiveness of the album.
Just a thought. It's y'all's channel. Do what you want.
Thanks again for great content and discussions.
Thank you for much :)
Yeah I got from undertow as the inner struggle. Push and pull thats goes through the awakening proccess. Baptism reference means the cleansing of the soul. 4°I believe is guiding you to find your inner wisdom.....again it all depends where you are at consciously you always get a different interpretation.
Nice! I kept wondering when you would drop another video... Every Saturday would be cool
In undertow is a current that is running separately underneath the surface of the ocean. It is not visible so people are often not aware and it will grab them and pull them under and drag them out to see.
Interesting, thank you
Initum you are welcome. Enjoy your reactions and analysis of the songs. Reminds me of the old days when I first heard them.
TOOL and almost all modern bands were influenced by LED ZEPPELIN and PINK FLOYD. You definitely need to react to these amazing influential progressive rock bands. 🤞✌
You should hear Cam Cole sing Tattoo Rings. It's the most beautiful love song I've ever heard. The rest of his songs are awesome too. He sings, plays guitar & drums with his feet all at same time, & never misses a beat. He is AWESOME
Thank you for the recommendation
@@initum1599 here's the link ruclips.net/video/IWXoK9djVVY/видео.html
Look at AA, the program is very spiritual. There are definitely parallels between the two and I think the dude was on to something that didn't get developed. Great job, a touch long but interesting to hear your thought process.
Never heard of the baptism take on undertow... Very interesting take! I always took it as drug addiction.... The second hit is twice as high as heaven... Then 3rd hit is half as clear ( the more you do drugs, the less it gets you high... So you then have to do more)
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For me, 4° is about your own inner struggle within your passive aggressive self.
His voice is the agression the words are the passive.
When he reaches 4° it's both feelings understanding each other. They both matter, they both need to be understood & the both should be allowed to grow inside the vessel.
4° warmer, was the point where both symbios understood & agreed to grow together.
Undertow is also used to describe the darker elements of society.
4° becomes a hilarious joke as well as a great song once you know the meaning behind the title.
This is also the last album with Paul D'Amour on bass
Well done as usual. I would like to hear your interpretations and opinions regarding the musicianship. What was your tastes in music prior to hearing TOOL. Thank you
Thank you for your comment. Sure, I will think about it, but in all honesty I am a bit ashamed of what I had been listening to before Tool haha
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Tool undertow album in my opinion is their best.
No it is definitely both. You guys make quite a team.
Hello from Sacramento, California! I think Maynard stays vague and ambiguous in his lyrics on purpose....mostly to screw with us. Lol. 1000 different people will interpret his lyrics 1000 different ways. Which makes the music of TOOL all the much more brilliant and cerebral. I’m really enjoying taking this journey with you and am so excited to see you experiencing what’s to come. Tool is by far my favorite but At some point you really need to get into Tesseract and Source. I think you’ll enjoy those as well. Spiral out! Keep going!
I see this whole album very similar to the hero’s journey or Dante Infernos. A persons downward spiral to hell and back, losing pieces but gaining new perspectives and appreciations. 4 degrees to me is sort of the last ditch attempt to enjoy and take one more hit of whatever that destructive behavior would be, before eventually drowning his dark side violently in Flood in hopes to be born again but failing.
I love this interpretation actually (him), I can agree that to me it sounds like it speaks to the same metaphor.
More generally, I think (and it's in all albums) the appreciation of evil side, in a sense that knowing one's evil side is necessary to use the good side. Ying yang ☯
If im not mistaken you've not listened to much of the rest of the catalog? You're in for a treat!
ikr, i'm just sitting here waiting patiently lol
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4° is one of my overall favs...
I love your videos 💜
I agree that most Tool songs get better with multiple listens. My theory is the music is unconventional so it takes some time for the mind to adjust.
I believe you are both correct. If you look at the bands, kind of trolling about the book of Lachrymology, the science of crying and pain as therapy, signifies that you are both right. Baptism and change, thru the pain of addiction and withdrawal.
Invincible!!! Also you guys should check out band called Mastodon, toe to toes, jaguar god.
Thabk you for your recommendation :)
36:58. The last song on album is unreal. Also, if you miss the hidden track on this album, if it is hidden for you, then you have missed out in a monumental way. Edit. So, I guess the track isn’t hidden. It’s right on the album. It was a crazy night the first time I heard it. In the original cd, the gap between Flood and Discustipated, was a long joint. I had fallen asleep after Flood. I had just had knee surgery, was on vicodin, and beer when I fell asleep. I woke up to the chorus...it was terrifying.
@Gabriel Moline Good to hear you survived
Larry Foster I did survive. We all, well I’m sure almost all of us survived. Great time to be alive. It’s so strange. So surreal. So historic. I love it. Humans are divided in two. Those that respect science, and those that hate science and want the world destroyed, via the death religion they are in. Whichever one, there’s thousands. They need the world to be destroyed so that they can get to heaven. So, they are actively trying to destroy the world.
Hey! Not fishing for more likes or anything (second comment), but I had a thought and wanted to put it here because it made me think of your discussions.
I'm not saying this is related to anything but if something is 4° away from from something else on a map, it doesnt seem very far away but in reality it is a good distance away.
19:10. The song was clearly speaking of a river, not a sea.
I"ve always suspected Undertow, both the song itself and the album title, to have a deeper meaning for the band as a whole. I see it as a metaphor for how the band feels about suddenly becoming a huge success and music industry sensation. They in essence have been swept away by the undertow of the music industry, pulling them into the business side of things which I think they couldn't stand (see Ticks and Leeches for example). I don't believe any of the members really wanted a ton of attention and fame and they experienced it all very quickly with their first album drawing attention from all sources in the music industry; ones they I suspect they despised like MTV.
In 1993, Headbanger's Ball (a show on MTV devoted to metal/hard rock music) was interviewing Maynard: ruclips.net/video/k3lU8sixVcw/видео.html. In the interview it seems that Maynard really doesn't want to be answering this interviewer's questions and is relatively dismissive at first answering her with short and humorous answers. The MTV interviewer continues to press him about the band's inspiration and where they draw their ideas from, bringing up a book that supposedly inspired the band. Then Maynard goes on to talking about this book written by Ronald P. Vincent and talks about trying to get the book published, what the book means, and so on. The joke here is the book doesn't exist, he is just giving a joke answer. This is the perfect example of why I love both MJK and Tool; their attitude is to not be too serious, pretentious, or self-absorbed. An attitude shared by Melvins, one of the bands that influenced Tool. There's some other interesting stuff in the interview but I think it really captures Maynard's demeanor in the early days of Tool.
Also I believe it is pronounced on-eh-ma as opposed to in-eh-ma. If that makes sense lol.
Try “lateralus” sung and drummed out with the Fibonacci sequence just for fun
with the hair in the back and the headphones on you look like a Fox :-)
Foxy Fox :-D
Maynerd claims he was abducted by aliens as a kid. He says they told him he's their chosen 1. Tool has songs about it. I forget the titles, tho. He has 12 college degrees, his own winery and does all the claymation for Tool's videos. I suggest you hear Right in 2. Watch the animated video. It helps with understanding what the song's about. Love your vids. Peace out with some grease out
Lmao, wtf you talking about? 12 college degrees? Hahaha, he went to art school after the army for interior design and set design, then moved to la where he ended up becoming friends with adam jones and the guys from the band green jello, then formed tool, wondering when he’s had time to acquire all these degrees lol, there definitely wasn’t time or money to do so in the early years, then later he moved to Arizona and started his vineyard, learned to make his own wine and started a jiu jitsu studio so he had someplace to train in the area, and started a family, so between that and touring, not much time left over for degrees lol, he is smart enough to hold multiple degrees though and very well read. By the way, Adam Jones did the claymation, which should have been obvious as when tool started out his day job was as a special effects artist who worked on some pretty big films like Jurassic Park and the second Terminator film to name just a couple, the band was only supposed to be a side gig but it took off.
@@cerebralfailure8804 maybe I saw a fake interview years ago? At some point, long ago, I heard him claim to have 12 degrees
@@cerebralfailure8804 I saw an interview with him, not long after Lateralus dropped. The man claimed to have 12 degrees. 1 in music, 1 in production, 1 in claymation, and on & on he talked. Its been years now but, I'll never forget it, because it amazed me. He said that ppl waste too much time, and anything is possible if we'll work at it. He's a very amazing man, or it was a fake interview. Will try to find it again
36:17. Sweet.
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I think it is time for No Quarter from Salival. What do you think, SHE?
Thank you for your comment.
Quarter will come right after Aenima album :)
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@Initum What brand and model of headphones do you use in these videos?
Akg k92 and bose qc35 II
Initum lots of religious references. Maynard's mom was a devout Christian who suffered a paralyzing brain aneurysm for 10,000 days before she passed. I feel that Maynard has great anger towards religion.
Yes, I read quite a few comments about this. I look forward to discover and feel this anger via listening to the next albums.
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I recommend reading his authorized biography. Better yet, listen to the audiobook version, as Maynard himself reads the sidebar content throughout. He explores this more directly, and I think it's safe to say that it's not religion itself that bothers him but the nature of some of the people associated with it.
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I wanna recommend you listen to Jimi's Chicken Shack. Their 1st album is best to me. When You Die, You're Dead is their best song. Blood and High are great 1s too
What??? Wow! I have a Jimmy's chicken shack album, someone gave me maybe 25 yrs ago! I gotta see if I still have it. Never really listened to it I don't think.
@@66marbor I hope it's the Pushing the Salmonella Envelope album. Every song on it is great. School Bus, High, Sitting With the Dog,... Great songs. I disagree with some lyrics but, that's ok. It's great tunes
@@munkeebranestoo5259 I have it! A catholic girl I was dating gave me that and rusted root! She was going to school in Stubenville, Ohio. We were both from southern Ontario, I would go down and visit. Watched the Steelers Cowboys SB at a bar in Pit and a Penguins Flyers game. I also visited her in Annapolis when she was there, sorry rambling. Guess I never gave Jimmie a chance. I'm going to give it a listen and see if I can recall any songs. Anyway that's cool, thanks.
@@66marbor definitely check it out. Each song is so different. Another Day is kinda reggae. Pay attention to the lyrics. You've really been missing out. When you listen, lay down, close your eyes & see the music. Best way to experience
3:40. In this day and age, as a reactor, you almost have to have correct lyrics. It’s not how the art from this band was meant to be observed, I believe, but it’s not nineteen ninety any longer. All things are altered by time, regardless of the medium.
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people keep saying undertow as an album is underrated, underrated by who?
I agree, 4* is a highly unrated track.