Windsor - Least Used Amtrak Station in Vermont
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- Covered bridges. Maple syrup. And diners.
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0:00 - The Journey to Windsor
9:39 - Windsor Station Review
12:51 - Exploring Windsor
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My favorite part of this was when I got an ad for Jesus right before Miles talked about Satan’s Kingdom.
It’s astonishing that Vermont has a surprisingly high number of Amtrak stations in relation to its total population while New Hampshire only has 3 (edit: 4) that aren’t even located in its most populous cities… I think NH takes the cake as the most anti-rail state in New England!
They couldn't accomplish the "or die" part of "Live Free or Die" as easily if they didn't force you to drive everywhere
NH has 4 stations, 3 on the Downeaster and 1 on the Vermonter
We literally passed a bill banning new rail projects. People see rail as a way for people from mass to get into the state as if the highways don’t already do that
@@Matt-ln1zl I’m convinced that NH is the Florida of New England- it’s got the sprawl, car-dependence, and right-wing looneys
How else are they supposed to make money off of all those annoying toll roads? 😂
Someday I vow I’m going to drag you to the 1282-foot Hartland Covered Bridge in New Brunswick, but until that happens, this was a pretty nifty time too ;)
love the seinfeld reference in the vid!
Seconded!
I went out of my way to go to the Windsor Diner once a few years ago. It's great!
The dinosaur footprints is very literal. There's rocks with actual fossilized dino footprints in it that you can go look at. There's also some south of there in CT, the CT River Valley is apparently fertile ground for this sort of thing.
Perfect timing for it to snow right after having a magical dining experience in such a beautiful station building! What a neat little town! Definitely wild that Vermont was its own country at one point! And nice to see ✨Worcester, Massachusetts✨ make a return from the Boston diner video! Windsor was the first in Vermont to break ground for the railroad as they got a train station/depot in January 1849. The station building you ate at is from 1901 because the original 1849 building burned down. Like Stone Mountain in Georgia, Mount Ascutney is a monadnock or an isolated hill or mountain that rises above a relatively flat area! Monadnock is derived from an Abenaki word that loosely translates to "mountain that stands alone".
Windsor was chartered as a town in July 1761 and settled in August 1764. As you saw, Windsor is home to the American Precision Museum which was the first factory in the US to make precision interchangeable parts. Even though Windsor was no longer the capital of the Vermont Republic after it joined the US in 1791, it was still the capital of the state until 1805 when Montpelier was selected due to its central location.
im watching this while on the Vermonter to Windsor. how meta.
So Yankee Candle is (as of 2023) headquartered in South Deerfield, however it was founded in South Hadley in 1969 (obligatory nice) when Michael Kittredge II (from Holyoke) created his first scented candle from melted crayons as a gift for his mother for Christmas. Then his neighbors wanted to buy them and so he produced them in larger quantities. The company itself was founded with help from Donald MacIver and Susan Obremski, who were high school friends with him. He sold Yankee Candle to Forstmann Little & Co. in 1998 and stepped away from the candle industry. He first started changing hands in 1993 because of a cancer scare. As of 2023, it's a part of Newell Brands.
For a college course, his son Michael Kittredge III was tasked to create and promote a product, so naturally they chose candles. He talked to his father about expanding it into an actual business, and so they discovered a building in Bernardston and co-founded Kringle Candle before Christmas 2009.
2013 Street view of Windsor shows the platforms are just paved paths along tracks. So there were some significant upgrade to the platforms since then.
Too bad they couldn't drum up the massive funds required to install a bus shelter
Never mind more frequent services from all those other places you mentioned, it would be nice if we could get directly to Vermont from Boston
Yeah, that would be amazing!
that would be great. the buses that exist aren't half bad though
@@snowyyyyyyyyyyyyy It's just a couple Greyhounds a day, right? Unless you also count Dartmouth Coach, which gets to the border.
@@MilesinTransit megabus on fridays/sundays too, 1x/day to either montpelier or burlington vt
10:47 "Jeff's Rubbish removal" on the rubbish bin, what a grand coincidence. I believe Geoff Marshall might like to have a word about that, lol.
Yes! My favorite series is back w/ Jackson!
The beautiful lake is Silver Lake in Meriden CT - great for kayaking and foamers on kayaks taking photos of trains.
Awesome! Miles is the best guest traveler, and those food options make me want to take this train up there.
11:50: I'm personally a fan of sticking with 2019 data. Sure there may be newer routes and stations, but I'm personally more interested in well-established stations that are least used, and not stations that are least used because they've only been open a few months. The former takes you to places like Windsor VT and Helper UT, whereas the latter might result in visits to urban infill stations or something.
I dunno, I think sticking to 2019 masks the chronology of the video.
I ate at this diner the last time I was in NYC. Great place.
I know this is an older video but you are so UNDERRATED !! I am obsessed with your channel you are hilarious 😂, but also just love seeing you travel! Thank you for being you! Love your channel! Plus I saw you were in Emeryville at one point at the Amtrak station there and I literally live in Alameda!!
That's awesome! Thank you so much!
Very cool the experience thru the bridge, thanks for sharing. Always makes me laugh guys.
Thank you!
how did i miss this vid in my sub box!! i literally have been planning on making this trip myself (PHL all the way up on the Vermonter).. just started the video but i'm already enjoying it oml
Thank you!
I'm so glad that RUclips recommended this channel to me. Instant subscribe. I found my people -- transit geeks just like me!
Thanks so much!
Year over year
Welcome to Miles in Candles
Me: *flashbacks to carrying huge boxes of Yankee Candles for fundraising for high school robotics*
That building at the front of the traffic jam you caused in Brattleboro is a brewpub that makes some weird food
Thanks, I didn't know about that museum until now
Gonna make plans
I lovermont; it was my first choice of places to retire. Unfortunately, Rheumatoid Arthritis said, "Not so fast, my friend!" and I had to retreat to warmer climes.
I might have to take the train to Windsor and stay overnight just to try that maple cheesecake. It’s tempting.
Why is this my favourite content? It’s like if I embarked my nerdiness and had friends
Thanks for showing the world to shut ins like myself
Love it all guys!
Definitely adjust to the updated data for the future!!
A Top 10 menu shot !!
Mount Ascutney is a great summer vacation spot!
You guys' chemistry is unmatched, I'm having an amazing time watching thanks 🎉❤
Thank you!
As a vermonter, Brattleboro is the best town in southeastern VT, definitely come visit
I've never been, but it looks like one of the most urban small towns in the country!
Now I know more about transit and Dinners in Vermont.
Probably the best culinary state in the USA. Breakfasts and sandwiches taste better in Vermont.
@@skiparkcityut Im more excited now
i love brattleburo station it's so hilariously funny the way it just kinda stops at an at grade crossing. Also, finally the Vermonter video i have been waiting for, love that train. haha.
I had to watch this one before I watch the claremont,nh vid. That nh one spoiled the heck out of this one.
it's always a good day when Miles post's a new video.
Love this series Still waiting on the Louisiana one Myles lol
Someday!
In order to cover all possible permutations of future changes to Amtrak ridership, Miles should visit each and every Amtrak station! 😉
Growing up around Springfield, I have never heard anyone use any permutation of the words beautiful ass vista to describe it.
the returm of jackson complete with lovely vermont, diners, a seinfeld reference, taylor swift and a covered bridge!
I love your “least used station” series and your kind and understanding friend(s)!!! 2019 is fine with me.
I used to take the Vermonter all the time between Burlington VT (to get to Plattsburgh NY) and NYC. Love this documentation of y'all's journey!
Getting to Plattsburgh from Burlington must be a pain without a car, since the ferry from downtown doesn't run anymore
Just wait for new Mexico and Arizona
I'm from Windsor! Graduated from High School there and worked at the hardware store during the summers while I was in college. You guys even filmed the apartment block I used to live in. I gotta say, I loved watching you guys enjoy my little middle of nowhere town!😄
Also, pre-Covid the train Platform did extend the length of the old station building. The barely a platform that you guys saw is relatively new. 😒
That's awesome, thanks so much for watching! They probably moved the platform for the sake of ADA accessibility, which is a good thing, but it really sucks that they didn't put ANY amenities whatsoever on it.
What are you talking about? Did you not see the trash can? 😂
so glad to see a new least used vid! I kind of assumed vermont just had one station in burlington or brattleboro, but apparently not. also, love your continued diner adventures!
Great to see another installment in this series. As someone who constantly uses the overpass at Moynihan, the section near track 10 always has people filming tiktoks there 24/7, even multiple tiktok groups at once show up there.
CTRail, Valley Flyer, Northeast Regional all do New Haven to Springfield. About 10 or so round trips per day. Although more frequent is always welcome
Yeah, fair!
yes finally Jackson and Vermont in the same video mission complete
Windsor, Vermont... Heck yeah!!!
Come back to VT for Ferrisburgh-Vergennes on the EAX!
Oh wow, Franklin Street station on the 1! Besides the Square Diner, that's right by the Ghostbusters firehouse too! While the diner's from the 1940s, the firehouse was built in 1903! The building was designed as the first of a series of Beaux-Arts style firehouses by the city superintendent of buildings, Alexander H. Stevens. The firehouse used to have two vehicle doors, however when Varick Street (named for mayor of NYC from 1789 to 1801 who owned property in the area) was widened in 1913, its size was halved and so it's just one now. The firehouse was chosen for Ghostbusters because Dan Aykroyd knew the area and liked the building! Besides Ghostbusters, the firefighters there were among the first responders for the WTC attacks.
Come for the Vermont station review, stay for Miles and Jackson dancing at 3:19. The Connecticut State Capitol is pretty cool! It was built between 1871 and 1878, with the exterior made using granite from Westerly, Rhode Island and marble from East Canaan. They used to meet in both New Haven and Hartford alternatively but after the Civil War, selected Hartford as the sole capital. There were two competitors, James G. Batterson and Richard M. Upjohn (who also designed Edwin A. Stevens Hall in Hoboken). Upjohn won, however, Batterson was awarded the role of building contractor. Because of this, he pulled a genius move of revising Upjohn's plan, so the capitol design looked more like his own design.
Technically, in 1777 Vermont unilaterally declared itself to be the 14th state. Independence was the de facto situation but it was not the intention of our founders.
that is another stellar video. Not just one, but two diners! Keep up the good work
Thank you!
Welcome to Jackson in Transit.
I love the amount of inside jokes on this channel.
5:36 - best springfield impro
Such a romantic getaway.
OH HELL YEAH I LOVE DINERS AND COVERED BRIGES
Ohh 🥺 covered bridges 😵💫🤤wooooooooowwww
That Foamer meter is all over the place!
Oh wow, the Yankee/Kringle schism is real. One of my closest friends, long a Yankee Candle aficionado (to the point that he'd always make us stop at the factory/Disney World of Candles on our way back from Mohawk Trail State Forest in Charlemont whenever we'd rent those DCR log cabins there) gave up on Yankee Candles after it was sold to a conglomerate and [per him] the "quality took a nosedive" and switched to Kringle. On a side note, it's too bad the there isn't service up the Connecticut River line to St. Johnsbury or Newport as some of the towns up there are pretty nice and lively too (Bradford, Newbury, Wells River, St Johnsbury, Lyndon, Newport, to name a few), plus I'd be able to get to my family's place in New Hampshire by train (or more more likely, pick up friends visiting from points south), which is just across the Connecticut River from Wells River, VT, near North Haverhill, NH..
miles liking a sweet desert??!? impossible
That's the time of day sometimes know as sparrowfart here in the UK.
welcome back to ned
I'd suggest doing Ferrisburgh-Vergennes just for the heck of it. 🤷♂
Vergennes isn't the least used station either - FY22 only included two months of the new Ethan Allen Express extension. It probably won't be the least used when FY23 station numbers come out soon. That said, Miles should totally do a trip report of the Ethan Allen Express to Burlington!
How’s it looking for New York State, according to the 2019 statistics Port Kent is the least used station, but the Adirondack no longer stops there. Looks like Rouses Point is the least used station that Amtrak still serves. Keep up the vids from upstate NY ✌️
@@markyastion3860 Yeah, it doesn't look like Port Kent will ever reopen, so probably Rouses Point.
@@MilesinTransit After a quick gander at the Port Kent NY Amtrak station wiki, it seems like that stations only purpose was to serve a ferry to Burlington, VT. Now with direct rail service to that city the Adirondack would have no reason to stop there. There is a possibility once ferry service resumes the Adirondack would stop once again in Port Kent. Given the ferry's summer month designation that could take a while unfortunately. Waiting for that fabled day is up to you, but if the train did stop at Port Kent it would leave you and your friend's in a desolate wilderness. Fortunately, Rouses Point has a small town main street that is in relatively close proximity to the station. Once again I appreciate your content, and would love to know your decision on the matter.
@@MilesinTransit The ferry company has wiped every single trace of the Burlington-Port Kent ferry from their website, and redeveloped the Burlington ferry ramp into a marina. (Because if there's one thing Burlington needs, its a 4th marina.) So I doubt Amtrak service will resume.
square diner is great, should've gone to the ghostbusters firehouse around the corner, burgers are the best at SQ diner btw
In the Northeast can we get a Bagel and Lochs review? Or a baconeggandcheese, it's a NYC staple
I think updating the data would be good.
Your TikTok dance is oddly reminiscent of those inflated yellow wiggly figures often seen at used car lots and mattress store openings. There was no Menu Shot for the Windsor Station Restaurant! I'm a tad disappointed about that. Maple syrup makes everything better. Thanks for sharing!
The wacky waving inflatable arm-flailing tubemen?
@@OntarioTrafficMan Yep!
Hey that’s my state!
It’s a good day for me when an episode of my favorite miles in transit series is released
2:43 The voice of the announcements is Bernie Wagenblast
DINER! 0:01
When I lived in DC this route, up to Essex junction was how I got home! I always met interesting people on the last leg. Beautiful route when it's not dark. I'd encourage you to check out the ethan allen express to burlington as well! THe ferrisberg vergenes station (the next least used) is actually the closest to my parents and there's talk of putting in a flag stop in the town of shelburne where they live!
Babe wake up !!!
After having watched that 3 hour epic vieo of Boston diners, I still gete PTSD whenever I hear the "menu shot" clip 🙂
Trivia 1: The Vermonter used to be the Montrealer and continued north to Montreal after St-Albans. It was an overnight train wuth (heritage) sleeping cars and diner. (not cafe). The cuts in 1990s which shifted responsibility for dunding to states meant Vermo didn't want to pay for the Canadian segment so it was cut. The route between New Haven and Vermont changed over the years in part due to bad track conditions. In early 1990s, the train continued to New London where it turned left to go inland.
Trivia 2: Only Amfleet 1 cars are getting bike racks. So the Vermonter and Ethan Allan get bike racks, but the Adirondack gets Amfleet II and no bike racks.
Trivia 3: there was talk of re-extending the Vermonter back to Montreal, but fell through because the new onwer of Central Station has become hostile to trains as it only wants its own REM there. Adirondack forced CDPQ to honour its still valid contract with CN (former owner) until the contract lapses after which the fiture of train is unkown.
The Montrealer left Montreal at 17.30 so Vermont was in the dark going south. But going north, much of Vermont was in early hours of (summer) morning.
It'd be great to keep a Vermonter day train and add back in a Montrealer night train! Especially if both went to Montreal.
With extension of the Ethan Allen all the way to Burlington last year, I doubt you'd see 2 "Vermonters". But the big question is whether extending Vermonter to Montréal would force it to be overnight service (since it starts in Washington) or if they could do this as daytime. The overnight service was really pleasant as you got into Penn Station at about 07:30 in morning @@MilesinTransit
One thing Vermont is very good at is cuisine.
Nice trick to board Atmtrak trains from Penn station. Curiious if they have any controls for the Adirondak train where every passenger traveling to Montreal MUST "check in" at Moynihan and get a paper boarding pass and hand luggage tagged and are in separate queue that boards first to specififc car in back of train.
Unfortunately, do to the nonsense that is US/Canadian Border & Customs Enforcement, neither Penn, nor Montreal, not even Toronto tbh, have ANY such facilities in station. Montreal keeps whining they have no space for it, and the States don’t care to do anything before Niagara. Vermont is pushing for that to change, in time for the Vermonter to become the Montrealer again by end of decade!
Unfortunately, Central Station no longer has the space AND willingness. as part of REM project, the CDPQ bought the rights to all the tracks from CN and was a major cause for the Adiorondack being the last train to resume post COVID and Amtrak had to fight to have them honour the still valid CN contract but CDPQ then warned that when contract expires, negotiations won't be easy. The Governments had agreed on customs pre-clearance at Montréal (forcing to skip the St-Lambert stop). This would be both ways as in Vancouver. You can't pre-clear customs at Penn Station because there are so many intermediate stops until the actual border. @@NEPATransitnTravel
Amtrak submitted a report to Congress last year titled: "Report on Amtrak Cross Border Operations" November 15 2022 which highlights many of the issues/constraints and situation. @@NEPATransitnTravel
YAY NEW MILES VIDEO!!!! Edit: to keep it consistent, for new videos use 2019 data. But, if you want to redo a least used station video, Ex: Framingham is now the most least used station in MA instead of Holyoke.
I think you do need to report 2019 stats for consistency; and maybe supplement them with changes, perhaps just in on-screen text.
I am assuming (like 99.9999% sure) next week's video is least used Amtrak station in NH which is Claremont. Honestly, I don't get the point of it. It is the single NH station on the Vermonter. Thom from Trains Are Awesome in the Downeaster vid said that the Downeaster is the only Amtrak train to go to NH but that is untrue. Love your vids and will be there for the livestream.
*For least used Amtrak, can you also include Quebec, BC and Ontario. THX!
Just to correct Jackson at 7:28, to go over 79 mph a supplemental safety system is required, but Amtrak has installed it. And just about every passenger rail line has it, it’s called Positive Train Control (PTC). Many railroads have removed their Automatic Train Stop (ATS) where passenger trains were using it to run 90 mph and now just use PTC.
When are you going to do SC? You've done NC and Georgia!!! I just checked the stats, ours is Spartanburg.
In 2019 it was Denmark, which is WAY more difficult than Spartanburg...I'm almost sad to hear it's an easier town these days. But Denmark is more interesting, I suppose!
@@MilesinTransit Real talk though, I think this answers the question of whether to stick with 2019 data or to update: pick and choose whichever one is more interesting! Do both if time and money allow! And overall, I'd say that if the least-used has changed over the years, let the tiebreaker go to the one that you have reason to believe is less used historically.
Fun fact I’ve been to that bridge before back in 2018.
Wow. I moved from NYC to Windsor back in 2018, I came up here for business Windsor is in the center of all the locations I need to get to both in NH and VT so I know a lot about the area. Yes that's Mount Ascutney you see. That museum is The American Precision Museum. Originally an Armory. The business grew and left to the next town south, Springfield VT..which became the "Precision Valley." Springfield made "The Machines That Make Machines." You'll have to visit Randolph VT next. That's another small town like Windsor. It's claim to fame is the Morgan Horse breed.
The best Worcester diner was (surprise!) the Miss Worcester diner in (surprise, surprise!) Worcester MA. Helped one survive the ‘70’s.
That one's on our bucket list!
Complete the series using 2019 stats, then start over with the latest stats when you’re done. That way it is an ever-changing adventure! 😁
@11:20, based Big Star phone lock screen reference.
if miles friend ever sees this again, I want to change this man's life by introducing you and him to one of the most under-appreciated genre, movement and also band of the 80's, Game Theory. Seriously, no meme, if you are a fan of Alex Chilton you're doing a disservice of not listening to them and the majority of the Paisley Underground music from L.A.
ruclips.net/video/-OkFfMwcAWA/видео.html&ab_channel=GameTheory-Topic
I also highly recommend The Dream Syndicate, Rain Parade, Opal, Green on Red, Thin White Rope and the biggest, super-group and most recognized of them all, Mazzy Star (first record)
Dream Syndicate, Game Theory and Kendra Smith being the master-pieces of the entire movement. If you ever wanted the Power Pop, New Wave, Neo-Psych with Alex-Chilton pop sensibilities and genius song structures, then look no further.
This has been a public service announcement for Transit meets art ho music discussion brought you by sharing is caring :---)
also, love the work and keep it up! Super underrated channel, might call it the Game Theory of youtube creators ;)
If you can finish up the system by 2024s end stick with 2019 but if not go with up to date stats
I am surprised that the waste can at the Amtrak platform was not a bear proof model.
Silver lake in Meriden.
i think continuing with the 2019 numbers is the move. keep the whole series consistent imo
Windsor is also the home of the Mill Brook Railroad and one of the hotels starring in Gordon Ramsay's TV show Hotel Hell. Both are further outside the town though.
And what's the second thing you wanted to say at the end? Will we find out next week?
You will!
Oh god how many days am I going to have to set aside for the diners of New York video?
I'm not sure if there'll ever be one! There are a couple cool ones, but a lot of them (and there are a LOT) are boring late-20th century ones.
MAPLE CHEESECAKE?!?!?! sounds amazing. I'm torn if the 'least used' or 'most inefficient way to get to x' videos are my favorite series.
Stick with the 2019 data since it really gives us a more accurate sense of it pre-pandemic numbers and adjust as required when adding new data.
@11:50 - I’d suggest continue using 2019 for consistency, but also use the new data to highlight the ones that have changed. It would be an opportunity to talk about where have there been extensions like in VT, where did Covid change travel patterns, etc.
I was JUST wondering... "Hey, it's been a while since we had a least used station!"
4:21 "and im the real setsuna setsuna scarlet storm see phew looks like I saved the world yet again"
Shizuku osaka, 2022
I highly recommend that American Precision Museum if you find yourself in Windsor again! I went a few years ago and I'm dying to go back. It was a fascinating history lesson