Just wanted to thank you for this video which helped me with the issue i had with my 2005 ram 1500 4.7 which had been the pcv located in the back of the intake manifold.
Finished install today, ran into some issues with removing fuel rail for 03 Dakota SLT , ended up being able to disconnect the left side of fuel rail to fit in the new intake, I was unable to disconnect all the right side injectors due to corrosion, the connectors were just disintegrating . Also had to disconnect the metal A/C pipes that sit over top of the intake for removal and installation of the intake manifold. This video was a lifesaver @martinbuilt thank you! Snapped my cruise control cable and my vacuum hose from the intake but she running good now!
Yeah it was nice when she'd want to come out and give me a hand but now that she's a teenager it takes quite a bit of persuasion to come out and give me a hand like the other day.
Thank you for all the wonderful work you do for the Jeep community! I own a 05 WK 4.7 and your videos have help change my Jeep for the better. Could you please make a quick video on the ram hood scoop and install? Thanks again keep up the great work.
Thank you John appreciate the kind words. I do have some video footage of the hood scoop install. I've never put the video out because the footage was never a complete install on the scoop but I can put something together.
Hey Martin, Just discovered your video series on the 4.7 and I gotta say your segments are awesome! I ended up subscribing as I picked up an 03 Dodge Durango about 6 months ago with a toasted trans for $600. It is equipped with a 4.7, 545RFE trans, NV 233 t-case, 9.25 rear with limited slip 3.55 axle ratio. I have since replaced the trans and truthfully was gonna flip it for resale but, after 2 months of driving it I gotta admit I kinda like it so, I've decided to play with it a bit. After viewing your vids last night and this morning I hit the local Pull A Part and low and behold... I came home with a pair of the 08 cams (Left 53021979AA, Right 53021980AA) and the intake manifold (53032761AI) A quick note.....Your part number for the intake ends in AJ but, I think I have an earlier version as the Durango I pulled the parts from had a November of 07 build date. My 03 Durango only has 102K on it so, My plan is to install the cams and intake with the adapter and run my stock throttle body for now. A performance exhaust and cold air intake are also on the list as well. I have a source for Chevy Ecotec 12 hole injectors. I saw that you installed them in your WJ. How do they work with the 08 intake and cams? Thank you for the vids and the inspiration!
Grant Miller hope you can be a little patient. I actually started this project over a year ago. So I have to go through video, put it all in order from a year ago until now.
I very just gotten into top end motor work like this more. I got into it too late at my age. My shop owner held me back before I got the chance to manage the shop. I'm learning alot on my own. Stuff like this does hell. This own seems easy compared to some of the v6s I've been doing recently
Again excellent work! When I did my manifold swap for the PCV, I grabbed a steel brake line with a bore about the same as the factory rubber. I ran it back and under the manifold. It exits under the A/C compressor and wraps around to the PCV. It just made for a cleaner install.
Hi Martin! As always, love your videos and I appreciate you putting them out there for us to use as guides. I wanted to share something though. I'm going through the process of installing an '08 intake manifold on my '01. The idea of lowering the engine down to get the new manifold in place didn't seem very appealing to me, so I was prepared to take the easy way out and cut the cowling just enough to get it to slide into place. Well, I set the manifold in as far as I could so I could see what needed to be cut, and wouldn't you know it, the '08 manifold slid right into place! I had to wiggle it and move it around some, but it went right in! No having to cut anything and I didn't have to lower the engine.
Thank you Leland , We're you installing this on a Grand Cherokee? And if so it's possible that your motor mounts are in need of replacing and that could possibly give you the additional room you needed. Nevertheless I'm glad you got it in there.
@@martinbuilt Yes, it's a Grand Cherokee. It's funny you mention the motor mounts, because as soon as I posted I thought to myself "maybe it's just my motor mounts are bad!" :-)
Performed this swap yesterday on my 2001 durango and ran into few issues thanks to your video. It was incredibly helpful! love the extra power, keep up the great work 👍
@al carr swap took about 5 hours. if youre going to upgrade injectors and the intake i recommend doing them both at the same time since you have to remove the fuel rail anyhow. the upgraded injectors are the Denso 12582704. you can find reman ones on ebay for about $100 for 8. as for the throttle body, the newer 2008+ intakes used a different throttle body which requires an adapter. the adapter cost me $175. ill send you a link to the guy on Ebay who makes them : www.ebay.com/itm/1999-2007-Dodge-4-7-2008-and-up-Intake-Manifold-Adapter-plates/303142636356?hash=item4694b58b44:g:ltQAAOSwOh5cfXOs
also, you can reuse your stock air box assembly when you install the newer style intake. at least it worked on my durango with no issue. hope this helps, feel free to ask any more questions about the swap if you need
Bradley Hetland do you know if there would be any advantage to running an aftermarket injector or coils on my 05 grand Cherokee limited 4.7? If so which ones? Not doing the 08 intake swap, yet atleast. Still looking for a billet or looking to have one built. Jus looking to get injectors and do coils as well 2005 4.7L mopar Cai ,single chamber corsa dumped at rear axle , borla high flow cats, upgraded torque converter and transgo shift kit "not that tranny mods matter" just letting you know current status so you can better answer my injector and coil question. Thanks
Thank you, yes I bet you have room under the hood of that Ram. You should see all I have done to this 04 Jeep Grand Cherokee to make room and to make the engine bay the best looking of any WJ and I'm not done yet.
Great video Martin, This is the most detailed instruction videos of installing the 2008 intake on the 99-07 4.7L vehicles I have EVER seen! You shed a lot of light on one area most people have issues with and that's swapping over the hardware from the older intake to the 08 intake. I like your 3/4 pipe plug idea however I'm just concerned a back fire could pop it out causing an un-commanded/uncontrolled WOT situation.
wwwAIRRAMcom Thank you... No I don't think there's any concern with that plug coming out it fits in their extremely tight. If there's any backfire issue it's going to come right out through the throttle body.
@Dino Piccinin Dino sounds like you enjoy doing the mods on your 4.7 as well. I am also looking for a set of 08 camshafts. Did you do any mods to the cylinder heads like changing out the valve springs or anything like that. Yes I was going to go with either flying Ryan or airram.Com to get a tune.
@Dino Piccinin Nice to hear from people that have done the 08 cams and have successfully ran it for a long-time with the stock non HO Springs. Thinking about sending a set of HO cams to Crane Cams they're the only ones that have responded and said that they would regrind them. Maybe someday I'll get around installing a set of ported HO cylinder heads. I would like to have HO block as well.
@Dino Piccinin which ones are you going to lose the low end on the 206 or the 08 cams.. yes so far I found three sets of ho cams. I let a set of 08 cams get away from me because I didn't know about them at the time. I'm keeping my eyes out for them... and yes the specs on the 08 cam are more aggressive than the 206 I believe the 08 cam has a wider angle of lobe Center though
Thanks for this video, I could not see how to get the plastic slide off the other throttle ball (Cruise Control) cable. I did not notice it had a notch in the back and it just slides off. (Details)! Cheers!
Fantastic video! In my case I have an egr valve on my 05 Ram. Therefore you will also need an 08 egr valve and tube. To make intake manifold work. As for map sensor I just bent fuel rail slightly. But your ideas for sensor is just as good if not better. I love my intake and 70mm tb. Get her tuned and you will be amazed!
Craig Heidelberger yes I'm very pleased with my intake and throttle body that I got on it right now which is not the one in the video. What did you do for a tuner?
Bought a Diablo sport tuner and used the software to send my tune file via email to a fella by the name of Jay Greene who knows how to computer tune. Im very happy and you will absolutely feel the difference.
Hey Craig I am also looking to do this with my 2005 dodge ram 1500 4.7. Where did you get your throttle body? If you could email with any info on the tune as well ryanbam101@gmail.com
I love the videos and tha k you for sharing your knowledge. I have ordered the 08 intake manifold for my 02 WJ. I'm a little confused as to what hardware I will need to install it. Should I be looking for sleeves off of an 02 or 04?
Thank you, at the time my daughter was born I was a big Ford fan so of course I had a name Shelby. She's 13 now and I got to pretty much beg her to come out to the garage and give me a hand.
@@martinbuilt well, someday I hope to do a factory 5 AC Shelby Cobra kit car. Well whe she needs work done on her car, make the deal she has to be there helping
Beautiful work! Lowering the engine by a half an inch reduces your center of gravity. Minimizing your rollover risk. Just saying there's additional benefits
Favorite gearhead quote of all time, right out of the gate when he mentions the TB adaptor and cable bracket from AirRam: "now I made these....I'm gonna be honest with ya it A LOT of work". LMAO!! Never days another word about it!! Lolol!!
Nice video sir 👍🏽 regarding pcv hose for my 07 jgc laredo 3.7 i need to replace it i think there leak from the left side elbow (p0507) i ordered the hose from amazon w two elbows on each side should be here Monday is that a simple plug and play installation i could do? Is there somethings i should know about b4 replacing the hose other than rerouting the hose up and behind the throttle body instead of under it like it was from factory?
I did this swap to my truck recently, but since then, my truck only revs to about 4k rpm and bounces like it's hitting a rev limiter, won't shift when it happens either until I let off the throttle. Any tips or advice would be really appreciated, hoping to have the rest of my rev range back if possible.
I've never heard of any intake bolts ever snapping. The torque spec on though should be rather low. Just looked it up it's a 105 inch pounds of torque not foot lbs just to be clear.
You are a awesome mechanic I recently bought a 2005 jeep grand Cherokee limited edition trail boss I payed 700.00 for it because it's overheating and they thought the rings were gone but I pulled the intake and the seals on the driver side were pressed in a lot more isn't that a sign that they tightened it to tight on one side
I’m following your videos and this upgrade in particular I’ve been hearing about for years from Dakota drivers. I have a 2002 Dakota QC 4x4 with the 4.7engine. So I got an 08 intake from a Chrysler Aspen 4.7 and am in the process of cleaning it and fitting it. One issue arose that you touched on, but was confusing. The intake from the 08 Aspen didn’t come with the 8 double ended intake stud sleeves. Those 8 steel sleeves that get pounded into the perimeter of the intake to guide the studs down to bolt down the intake had to come from my stock intake. But your right. They don’t fit, except for 2 (1smaller one and 1 flat sided). An option is to drill out the other holes with a 1/2” bit ( IIRC LOL) and wobble the bit some to fatten it up on both ends. THEN, the sleeves will push down into the plastic most of the way and you can tap them in and reuse all your studs. One other thing is the PCV (NOT PVC LOL) set up. My intake came with a short PCV hose that connects to the intake and what looks like the same PCV you threaded into the drivers side head. So I’m getting that PCV (if UPS will stop losing it and deliver it) from your amazon link. So that’s a short run to that side of the engine. What about the other side? Can I just put a cone filter on the passenger side 5/8” pcv inlet? Or do I need to reuse some of the old tubing to run that passenger side pcv inlet to my double coned filter eBay intake? Does this passenger side even need vacuum also? BTW I’m going to be getting a oil fill hose WITHOUT the pcv valve in it and replace my stock one like you did that has it.
Have watch your videos on your 04 WJ and incorporated many of the mods into my 04 WJ Overland 4.7 HO. Just finished my engine rebuild and installed the 08 cams and 08 intake off a Durango. I did not find a port for it on the intake I have. I built a port for the air temp in the PVC plug used to plug the EGR hole, seems to work. Where did you install the manifold temp sensor?
Martinbuilt did you have to modify the side of the intake manifold where the throttle linkage goes? Could you show how you built the linkage bracket and throttle body adapter? Quality stuff from you as always.
Andrew Shealy Didn't have to make any mods to the intake manifold at all. I don't have any video on the throttle cable bracket or throttle body adapter. Maybe someday I will do a video on that.
Hi thanks for your videos, do you have any video on crankcase ventilation maintenance on the 4.7 powertech engine? I have some problems with condensation in the oil filler tube
You're welcome, no I don't have a video on that mostly because I live in such a dry climate the problem doesn't exist. I did a little research on it and I did find this link that might be very helpful. dodgeram.info/tsb/2006/25-001-06.htm
To avoid waisting gas and cautions you can remove the fuel pump relay and turn your key off and on 2-3 times and it will remove the pressure from your rail so you don’t have to do the step you mentioned. Test it out and thank me later. 👍🏼
Excellent! I found an intake manifold from pull it yard on a 2008 4.7 cherokee and plan to install on my 2006 4.7 commander. when I got it home, I found small pieces of metal inside the manifold and I think I have them all out. Question: Can I submerge the manifold in water and flush it out to make sure there are no leaks and to get any additional junk out that might still be there? Pro's or Con's?
I flushed mine before I installed it with Purple Power but that was to remove any carbon and oil deposits. Sounds like the engine you got that from had a valve seat drop. That will cause the metal to go to all the cylinders through the intake manifold. If you have an inspection scope I would look inside the intake and make sure no metal particles are lodged into the plastic.
Yeah man! Thanks again for the heads up on the difference in manifold height, I'm of the same mind. I'd rather not cut my cowling or make any modifications at all other than the intended job at hand. Would it be easier to remove the motor mounts entirely with the four bolts rather than trying to massage them out of the rubber? Ive got a manifold coming. Again thanks for being a trail blazer. On the shoulders of Giants
Thank you, James. You are very welcome. Just so everybody understands You only need to remove the 2 motor mount bolts to lower the engine enough to get the intake manifold installed. Once the intake is installed the engine can be raised back up and the motor mount bolts returned.
@@martinbuilt Hello Martinbuilt, I've never had to pull the mounts , yet. Presumably the single bolt hole through the mount has a steel sleeve. I'd hate to be under there and try banging a bolt through solid rubber. A steel sleeve is hopefully inset for steel on steel. I might add the sound of your 4.7 is most auspicious and envy inducing. I'd further like to add this video alone is responsible for the spike and absence of available 2008 WK intakes.
Thanks Martin for all you do I took your advice and put on the 08 manifold on my 04 overland HO but the knock sensors hit so I tried to relocate him but I'm getting knock sensor codes where is a good place to relocate them thanks
I just tried both 08 and later intake manifold both fit with clearness as long as you turn the knock sensors straight back or slightly toward the cylinder head. Hope this helps.
Martin, where can you purchase the fuel hose that connects to the fuel rail, left side, that also connects just to the left of the transmission? Mine was broken during removal of the engine! I use to live in Veagas back in the 1980,s, loved the pick a part sites and videos!
I'm not sure where you would purchase that new I would recommend the pic-a- parts that's where I would go.. Vegas has changed a lot since the eighties if you haven't been here since you wouldn't even recognize it or know how to get around. I've been here since late 93 and it has changed an incredible amount.
Great video!!... Is there a different intake manifold from a different vehicle that would make it easier for us novices to install w/O having to drop the 2004 JGC 4.7 H.O freedom edition engine? Also do i need to order the custom part you made for the throttle body? And was this after you installed the 09 or newer camshafts from the durangos?
Thank you, There are some people that have been able to install the 08 and later intake without having to drop the engine most likely do to there Motor mounts being in poor condition. An HO engine is an HO engine no matter what model it comes from. Yes you'll need to order the throttle plate adapter from someone that carries it like airram.com or I've also seen them on eBay now. Yes I installed this intake before I ever did the 08 camshafts. I was running the HO Cam shafts at the time.
I thank the lord for your video. U am currently stranded in boise Idaho. Some guy came by and pucked up a wrench and started trying go help me take out spark plugs (I was replacing them). Long story short...he dropped the socket info the manifold. Ive tried everything. Magnets...everything. I undid my manifold but the top wont come off. I sat there and stared at it for a long gime and started to cry. In 900 miles from home and dong know a soul here. Single woman....i am a little intimidated. Wish me luck. I am going to do this. I bought new gaskets. What else do you recommend replacing while undone. I alrwadt did the iac and the throttle sensor and cleaned fhw theottle body.
sorry to hear that, I wish you were closer, I help you out. I would think you should be able to get it with a magnet, you'll need one that has a long wand on it to reach the socket. I doubt that socket would ever get sucks into the cylinders, it would just sit there on the bottom of the plenum.
Hello Mr Martin I just seen Your episode I have my Jeep 2004 4.7 v8 and am trying to install the same thing on my Jeep but I have missing the correct part or way to connect the pip of intake directly from the throttle body to the air box or without air box maybe. And where is the pic sensors installation? Could you please help me how to do that ?
Hi Martin great video. Liked and subscribed. Have you ever had an intake manifold on a 4.7 ticking? I stuck my stethoscope on every part of the engine and could not find the source. Nearly blew my ears off when I stuck it on the left side of the intake manifold. 03 dodge ram 1500 btw. Thank you for all you do!
Thank you for subscribing appreciate that. no I never had a manifold tick but I have found where you will swear it's coming from a particular source with a stethoscope and it turns out to be totally somewhere else I'm wondering if it isn't a hydraulic tensioner for the timing chain.
I have a quick question. I am grateful for your channel. I have a Jeep so, I look forward to upgrading like you do. I over torqued the manifold intake bolt towards the front (right hand side, closes to the head light) and snapped the bolt in the head. Now, I took out the manifold intake to put in a new bolt in it's place but can't figure out how to get it off from the actual manifold, and is it possible without having to getting a new manifold? Thanks
Thank ya sir. I have a 06 durango 4.7 an i wanna do the same thing. If it makes a big difference. Because I have a 66m turbo I was gonna stick on it. But don't want to blow it up lol.
Yeah, this intake manifold makes a huge difference compared to the factory original. When I added the 75 millimeter throttle body that I built, it was very impressive.
I’m going to be picking up my intake soon and I’m making my own throttle body adapter.do you think there will still be a pretty good gain with a factory throttle body on the 08+ intakes? Im doing the cams and injectors soon to pair with the intake.
Yes it definitely improved horsepower and torque. I will be going with the 08 + cams as well hopefully soon. I have them already just finding the time to do the swap. And then I will me getting a flying Ryan tune
So you only need to lower the engine temporarily to get the new intake in, and once that's done you can reinstall the factory motor mounts? You don't need new mounts that let it sit permanently lower?
yes just lower temporarily and depending on the condition of the motor mounts you may not have to lower the engine at all. I had recently replaced the mounts which held the engine higher.
Due to the IAC issue I returned to the 68mm with the back honed to 70mm. It works great The guy I bought the intake from got the model years messed up. 3rd Strike. I bought so many parts from them I lost track myself. The IAC is crititcal for cold idle, mileage and proper metering of air entering the manifold. Mounting the MPS threades right into the left side of the intake and is very responsive a location.
Martin, What do you think the HP gains of this would be on a 4.7 vs. 4.7HO? I'm trying to decide if the gains would be too minimal on the HO to be worth doing.
One thing you have to realize in 04 the intakes are all the same between the two engines and if I saw that big of a gain from my non HO engine I will guarantee you will see the same with the HO engine. It has been one of my favorite mods that done so far.
Broke my ram's intake and can't find replacements that aren't $700 but i can find 08's and up so it looks like i'll be doing this and the TB upgrade if i can snag a TB from a junkyard.
Hi there I have a 2006 Dodge Durango with the 4.7l, I'm kinda confused about the mounting sleeves, How many do I need of what size? thank you in advance.
Does anyone know if this will fit a 5.2 liter 318 small block from a 96 ram? Stock heads with a port, or would I need certain heads for it to work? If anyone knows anything please any information would be greatly appreciated
Hey martin .. I just got done installing 08 + intake on my 04 overland... after seeing what you went through I was prepared to lower the engine but mine actually went in with no resistance... all I did was remove the weather Stripping and I got it in.. the intake I installed was Part # 53032761A1 and donor vehicle was a 2009 ram 1500.. maby the later ones were a little bigger? I have no clue.. but I did have a 1 problem and anybody in stalling 08+ intake on 4.7 H.O will have the same.. bank 2 knock sensor hits the bottom of intake and will prevent proper alignment of the intake.. so mine are now relocated to the outside of the block.. It's still like to know why mine dropped in and yours didn't...
It could be that your motor mounts are warm enough this causes the engine to set just low enough to get the intake manifold in. I had recently replaced my motor mounts and I think that is what the difference is. I did install the newer 08 intake manifold and I do have knock sensors and had no problem installing it. The runners do look different on the bottom side from the earlier to later model intake manifolds. Thank you for the heads up.
Starting at 14:14 minutes of your video, you can see that you do not have knock sensors ... The HO engine has them under the intake manifold, but you do not have them in the video.
I have a 2002 Overland 4.7L HO. What spark plugs would you recommend? I have the Champions in it now. Also would a 185-190 T-stat help? I read that the engine runs better cool. I'm not overheating, but I sure do have HOT heat....!
Yes for the HO engine I would run the champion platinums or I hear a lot of good stuff about the NGK. Yes the engine definitely runs better at cooler Temps. I currently run a 180 thermostat but the radiator is not efficient enough to keep the engine out 180. You have the hydraulic fan the same as I do I am personally not that crazy about that fan. In theory it should be great but I feel the RPM is a little on the slow side. I did figure a way how to pump up the RPM but I also noticed that gas mileage suffered. So I am currently working on a electric fan conversion. I don't want to do the full install on the fan yet since we do have cool temperatures I want to wait till things warm up a bit so I can see the actual difference.
Congratulations Martin. Thank you for more this class of mechanics prepared for us followers and admirers here in Brazil.
I admire your passion for speed Martin.
Excellent work Martin, greetings from Argentina. I just buy a 2001 Grand Cherokee 4.7lts and some of your vids help me a lot. Thanks!!
You are the man dude. Im no mechanic and everytime i watch one of your videos i learn something I needed to know for my Dodge im working on.
Thank you I really appreciate that. I'm glad you liked them and found them helpful.
Love the mods and all the work you put in to your jeep.
Just wanted to thank you for this video which helped me with the issue i had with my 2005 ram 1500 4.7 which had been the pcv located in the back of the intake manifold.
I'm glad you liked it and found it helpful thank you for watching.
Outstanding!! You do a great service to those of us JGC 4.7 and newer Owners! Thank You!
He's put a lot into this jeep! Nice work!
Finished install today, ran into some issues with removing fuel rail for 03 Dakota SLT , ended up being able to disconnect the left side of fuel rail to fit in the new intake, I was unable to disconnect all the right side injectors due to corrosion, the connectors were just disintegrating . Also had to disconnect the metal A/C pipes that sit over top of the intake for removal and installation of the intake manifold. This video was a lifesaver @martinbuilt thank you! Snapped my cruise control cable and my vacuum hose from the intake but she running good now!
Those are not AC pipes....that's the Heater hose pipes
Stefan are you still running that truck? If so how has this modification held up? I want to do the same thing to my 03 Dakota SLT...
Great work my brother! I can tell that you take great pride in what you do. Way to go! Very instructive!
Thank you I appreciate that.
Awesome you had a helper.. Good Dad.
That is a memory you will have always.
Yeah it was nice when she'd want to come out and give me a hand but now that she's a teenager it takes quite a bit of persuasion to come out and give me a hand like the other day.
Thank you for all the wonderful work you do for the Jeep community! I own a 05 WK 4.7 and your videos have help change my Jeep for the better. Could you please make a quick video on the ram hood scoop and install? Thanks again keep up the great work.
Thank you John appreciate the kind words. I do have some video footage of the hood scoop install. I've never put the video out because the footage was never a complete install on the scoop but I can put something together.
You did a really good job on that install and you're teaching your daughter well .
Thanks 👍
Hey Martin,
Just discovered your video series on the 4.7 and I gotta say your segments are awesome! I ended up subscribing as I picked up an 03 Dodge Durango about 6 months ago with a toasted trans for $600. It is equipped with a 4.7, 545RFE trans, NV 233 t-case, 9.25 rear with limited slip 3.55 axle ratio. I have since replaced the trans and truthfully was gonna flip it for resale but, after 2 months of driving it I gotta admit I kinda like it so, I've decided to play with it a bit. After viewing your vids last night and this morning I hit the local Pull A Part and low and behold... I came home with a pair of the 08 cams (Left 53021979AA, Right 53021980AA) and the intake manifold (53032761AI) A quick note.....Your part number for the intake ends in AJ but, I think I have an earlier version as the Durango I pulled the parts from had a November of 07 build date. My 03 Durango only has 102K on it so, My plan is to install the cams and intake with the adapter and run my stock throttle body for now. A performance exhaust and cold air intake are also on the list as well. I have a source for Chevy Ecotec 12 hole injectors. I saw that you installed them in your WJ. How do they work with the 08 intake and cams? Thank you for the vids and the inspiration!
you got all the right stuff, sounds like a great day at Pull a Part. The Ecotec injector works great with this combination. Thank you for subscribing
Excited to see the new modified throttle body
Grant Miller hope you can be a little patient. I actually started this project over a year ago. So I have to go through video, put it all in order from a year ago until now.
I very just gotten into top end motor work like this more. I got into it too late at my age. My shop owner held me back before I got the chance to manage the shop. I'm learning alot on my own. Stuff like this does hell. This own seems easy compared to some of the v6s I've been doing recently
Thanks for sharing
You make everything look so easy. Well done.
Thank you I really appreciate that. I'm glad you liked it.
Again excellent work! When I did my manifold swap for the PCV, I grabbed a steel brake line with a bore about the same as the factory rubber. I ran it back and under the manifold. It exits under the A/C compressor and wraps around to the PCV. It just made for a cleaner install.
curtis bradley I like that! I'll have to do that when I pulled the manifold off again to do a wire tuck on the right side valve cover
Thank you for creating this video. It is much appreciated.
My pleasure!
Hi Martin! As always, love your videos and I appreciate you putting them out there for us to use as guides. I wanted to share something though. I'm going through the process of installing an '08 intake manifold on my '01. The idea of lowering the engine down to get the new manifold in place didn't seem very appealing to me, so I was prepared to take the easy way out and cut the cowling just enough to get it to slide into place. Well, I set the manifold in as far as I could so I could see what needed to be cut, and wouldn't you know it, the '08 manifold slid right into place! I had to wiggle it and move it around some, but it went right in! No having to cut anything and I didn't have to lower the engine.
Thank you Leland , We're you installing this on a Grand Cherokee? And if so it's possible that your motor mounts are in need of replacing and that could possibly give you the additional room you needed. Nevertheless I'm glad you got it in there.
@@martinbuilt Yes, it's a Grand Cherokee. It's funny you mention the motor mounts, because as soon as I posted I thought to myself "maybe it's just my motor mounts are bad!" :-)
@@martinbuilt What did you end up doing for the air temp sensor?
@@lelandgray8996lol.. time for a set of martinbuilt polyurethane motor mounts.
@@lelandgray8996 I relocated it into the ram-air that I built
Performed this swap yesterday on my 2001 durango and ran into few issues thanks to your video. It was incredibly helpful! love the extra power, keep up the great work 👍
@al carr no difference in MPG however you can feel the power gains in the midrange. the injector swap works well too.
@al carr swap took about 5 hours. if youre going to upgrade injectors and the intake i recommend doing them both at the same time since you have to remove the fuel rail anyhow. the upgraded injectors are the Denso 12582704. you can find reman ones on ebay for about $100 for 8. as for the throttle body, the newer 2008+ intakes used a different throttle body which requires an adapter. the adapter cost me $175. ill send you a link to the guy on Ebay who makes them : www.ebay.com/itm/1999-2007-Dodge-4-7-2008-and-up-Intake-Manifold-Adapter-plates/303142636356?hash=item4694b58b44:g:ltQAAOSwOh5cfXOs
also, you can reuse your stock air box assembly when you install the newer style intake. at least it worked on my durango with no issue. hope this helps, feel free to ask any more questions about the swap if you need
Bradley Hetland do you know if there would be any advantage to running an aftermarket injector or coils on my 05 grand Cherokee limited 4.7? If so which ones? Not doing the 08 intake swap, yet atleast. Still looking for a billet or looking to have one built. Jus looking to get injectors and do coils as well
2005 4.7L mopar Cai ,single chamber corsa dumped at rear axle , borla high flow cats, upgraded torque converter and transgo shift kit "not that tranny mods matter" just letting you know current status so you can better answer my injector and coil question. Thanks
What kind of issues did you go through? I have an '03 Durango with the 4.7
I sure would love to hear what this thing dynoed after all your small booster mods
Absolutely fantastic video! Well done...
Thank you!
Good video
Whatever your 4.7 is in makes me glad mines in a Ram. I got room for activities.
Thank you, yes I bet you have room under the hood of that Ram. You should see all I have done to this 04 Jeep Grand Cherokee to make room and to make the engine bay the best looking of any WJ and I'm not done yet.
awesome work and project!
Thank you! Cheers!
love your WORK BRO
Thank you I really appreciate that thank you for watching.
Great video Martin, This is the most detailed instruction videos of installing the 2008 intake on the 99-07 4.7L vehicles I have EVER seen! You shed a lot of light on one area most people have issues with and that's swapping over the hardware from the older intake to the 08 intake. I like your 3/4 pipe plug idea however I'm just concerned a back fire could pop it out causing an un-commanded/uncontrolled WOT situation.
wwwAIRRAMcom Thank you... No I don't think there's any concern with that plug coming out it fits in their extremely tight. If there's any backfire issue it's going to come right out through the throttle body.
not at this time
@Dino Piccinin
Dino sounds like you enjoy doing the mods on your 4.7 as well. I am also looking for a set of 08 camshafts. Did you do any mods to the cylinder heads like changing out the valve springs or anything like that. Yes I was going to go with either flying Ryan or airram.Com to get a tune.
@Dino Piccinin
Nice to hear from people that have done the 08 cams and have successfully ran it for a long-time with the stock non HO Springs. Thinking about sending a set of HO cams to Crane Cams they're the only ones that have responded and said that they would regrind them. Maybe someday I'll get around installing a set of ported HO cylinder heads. I would like to have HO block as well.
@Dino Piccinin which ones are you going to lose the low end on the 206 or the 08 cams.. yes so far I found three sets of ho cams. I let a set of 08 cams get away from me because I didn't know about them at the time. I'm keeping my eyes out for them... and yes the specs on the 08 cam are more aggressive than the 206 I believe the 08 cam has a wider angle of lobe Center though
Very very impressive!!!
Just bought a 00 and just subbed
Congratulations and thank you.😎👍
Assuming Shelby is your daughter, it's very nice to see her in the garage hanging out with Dad.
yeah I like teaching her about automotive stuff.
Thanks for this video, I could not see how to get the plastic slide off the other throttle ball (Cruise Control) cable. I did not notice it had a notch in the back and it just slides off. (Details)! Cheers!
Agree.
Fantastic video! In my case I have an egr valve on my 05 Ram. Therefore you will also need an 08 egr valve and tube. To make intake manifold work. As for map sensor I just bent fuel rail slightly. But your ideas for sensor is just as good if not better. I love my intake and 70mm tb. Get her tuned and you will be amazed!
Craig Heidelberger yes I'm very pleased with my intake and throttle body that I got on it right now which is not the one in the video. What did you do for a tuner?
Bought a Diablo sport tuner and used the software to send my tune file via email to a fella by the name of Jay Greene who knows how to computer tune. Im very happy and you will absolutely feel the difference.
Hey Craig I am also looking to do this with my 2005 dodge ram 1500 4.7. Where did you get your throttle body? If you could email with any info on the tune as well ryanbam101@gmail.com
Nice work Randy Pobst.
Thanks ...who's Randy?
After I commented I had to Google and see who's Randy Pobst is I didn't realize he's a famous race car driver and much more.
Loved the Conti hat!
Are you an electrician
Lol nice work man. I got 07 and you made just the video I needed. TY buddy. BTW, you soft dad and cant keep a straight face with your goober!!
Glad I could help.
Love your videos I wish you have a 5.9
I'm glad you like the content thank you for watching
Great video. Only thing not shown was the 2 coolant lines that run over the intake were removed before filming
Thank you, there is no coolant line over the intake on a Grand Cherokee, you must have a Dodge.
I love the videos and tha k you for sharing your knowledge. I have ordered the 08 intake manifold for my 02 WJ. I'm a little confused as to what hardware I will need to install it. Should I be looking for sleeves off of an 02 or 04?
Thank you for this!
You are very welcome.
shes has a great teacher... this guy knows his stuff. 👍
Thank You!
Oh man, thank god I have a Dakota eh! Been a while since I've seen an old school DIY Dodge guy.
That is my daughter's name too. I hope she will help me out in the garage soon. Great video
Thank you, at the time my daughter was born I was a big Ford fan so of course I had a name Shelby. She's 13 now and I got to pretty much beg her to come out to the garage and give me a hand.
@@martinbuilt well, someday I hope to do a factory 5 AC Shelby Cobra kit car. Well whe she needs work done on her car, make the deal she has to be there helping
Beautiful work! Lowering the engine by a half an inch reduces your center of gravity. Minimizing your rollover risk. Just saying there's additional benefits
Thank you. The engine only lowered temporarily to get the intake manifold installed and then raised back up and bolted to the motor mounts.
@@martinbuilt my bad, I didn't finish watching the entire video. I thought perhaps you fabricated some brackets to maintain the motor height.
У мужика руки из нужного места ростут! Красавчик!
I pull the fuel pump relay/fuse and try and start the engine a few times to bleed off rail pressure
"Gonna be honest, it's a lot of work!!😨👍
but well worth it!
What I’ve learned from watching Martin, if he says it’s a lot of work, it’s going to be. But he still does it flawlessly
Favorite gearhead quote of all time, right out of the gate when he mentions the TB adaptor and cable bracket from AirRam: "now I made these....I'm gonna be honest with ya it A LOT of work". LMAO!! Never days another word about it!! Lolol!!
Nice video sir 👍🏽 regarding pcv hose for my 07 jgc laredo 3.7 i need to replace it i think there leak from the left side elbow (p0507) i ordered the hose from amazon w two elbows on each side should be here Monday is that a simple plug and play installation i could do? Is there somethings i should know about b4 replacing the hose other than rerouting the hose up and behind the throttle body instead of under it like it was from factory?
I did this swap to my truck recently, but since then, my truck only revs to about 4k rpm and bounces like it's hitting a rev limiter, won't shift when it happens either until I let off the throttle. Any tips or advice would be really appreciated, hoping to have the rest of my rev range back if possible.
It's more work getting the manifold installed than installing the cams.
Thanks for this. Ran into a few issues. 3 manifold bolts snapped. 😔
I've never heard of any intake bolts ever snapping. The torque spec on though should be rather low.
Just looked it up it's a 105 inch pounds of torque not foot lbs just to be clear.
@@martinbuilt I had 1 of mine snap also and of course it was the last one of the passenger side
You are a awesome mechanic I recently bought a 2005 jeep grand Cherokee limited edition trail boss I payed 700.00 for it because it's overheating and they thought the rings were gone but I pulled the intake and the seals on the driver side were pressed in a lot more isn't that a sign that they tightened it to tight on one side
I’m following your videos and this upgrade in particular I’ve been hearing about for years from Dakota drivers. I have a 2002 Dakota QC 4x4 with the 4.7engine. So I got an 08 intake from a Chrysler Aspen 4.7 and am in the process of cleaning it and fitting it. One issue arose that you touched on, but was confusing. The intake from the 08 Aspen didn’t come with the 8 double ended intake stud sleeves. Those 8 steel sleeves that get pounded into the perimeter of the intake to guide the studs down to bolt down the intake had to come from my stock intake. But your right. They don’t fit, except for 2 (1smaller one and 1 flat sided). An option is to drill out the other holes with a 1/2” bit ( IIRC LOL) and wobble the bit some to fatten it up on both ends. THEN, the sleeves will push down into the plastic most of the way and you can tap them in and reuse all your studs. One other thing is the PCV (NOT PVC LOL) set up. My intake came with a short PCV hose that connects to the intake and what looks like the same PCV you threaded into the drivers side head. So I’m getting that PCV (if UPS will stop losing it and deliver it) from your amazon link. So that’s a short run to that side of the engine. What about the other side? Can I just put a cone filter on the passenger side 5/8” pcv inlet? Or do I need to reuse some of the old tubing to run that passenger side pcv inlet to my double coned filter eBay intake? Does this passenger side even need vacuum also? BTW I’m going to be getting a oil fill hose WITHOUT the pcv valve in it and replace my stock one like you did that has it.
My Dakota was already rigged with a noisy spacer, so may have the cable bracket issue allready taken care of.
Have watch your videos on your 04 WJ and incorporated many of the mods into my 04 WJ Overland 4.7 HO. Just finished my engine rebuild and installed the 08 cams and 08 intake off a Durango. I did not find a port for it on the intake I have. I built a port for the air temp in the PVC plug used to plug the EGR hole, seems to work. Where did you install the manifold temp sensor?
Martinbuilt did you have to modify the side of the intake manifold where the throttle linkage goes? Could you show how you built the linkage bracket and throttle body adapter? Quality stuff from you as always.
Andrew Shealy
Didn't have to make any mods to the intake manifold at all. I don't have any video on the throttle cable bracket or throttle body adapter. Maybe someday I will do a video on that.
Hi thanks for your videos, do you have any video on crankcase ventilation maintenance on the 4.7 powertech engine? I have some problems with condensation in the oil filler tube
You're welcome, no I don't have a video on that mostly because I live in such a dry climate the problem doesn't exist. I did a little research on it and I did find this link that might be very helpful. dodgeram.info/tsb/2006/25-001-06.htm
Looking to build a aluminum pipe intake manifold for an early model 4.7 would that help increase power?
To avoid waisting gas and cautions you can remove the fuel pump relay and turn your key off and on 2-3 times and it will remove the pressure from your rail so you don’t have to do the step you mentioned. Test it out and thank me later. 👍🏼
Excellent! I found an intake manifold from pull it yard on a 2008 4.7 cherokee and plan to install on my 2006 4.7 commander. when I got it home, I found small pieces of metal inside the manifold and I think I have them all out. Question: Can I submerge the manifold in water and flush it out to make sure there are no leaks and to get any additional junk out that might still be there? Pro's or Con's?
I flushed mine before I installed it with Purple Power but that was to remove any carbon and oil deposits. Sounds like the engine you got that from had a valve seat drop. That will cause the metal to go to all the cylinders through the intake manifold. If you have an inspection scope I would look inside the intake and make sure no metal particles are lodged into the plastic.
I wish this would work for my 1999 Cherokee 4.7
This will work for a 1999 Cherokee 4.7 as well.
Awesome job by both of you!! Great polish Shelby! But pleeeeeeaaaase tie your hair back next time! Couple times close to that high-speed tool!!!
Thank you! I will make sure she does that next time.
Yeah man! Thanks again for the heads up on the difference in manifold height, I'm of the same mind. I'd rather not cut my cowling or make any modifications at all other than the intended job at hand. Would it be easier to remove the motor mounts entirely with the four bolts rather than trying to massage them out of the rubber? Ive got a manifold coming. Again thanks for being a trail blazer. On the shoulders of Giants
Thank you, James. You are very welcome. Just so everybody understands You only need to remove the 2 motor mount bolts to lower the engine enough to get the intake manifold installed. Once the intake is installed the engine can be raised back up and the motor mount bolts returned.
@@martinbuilt Hello Martinbuilt, I've never had to pull the mounts , yet. Presumably the single bolt hole through the mount has a steel sleeve. I'd hate to be under there and try banging a bolt through solid rubber. A steel sleeve is hopefully inset for steel on steel. I might add the sound of your 4.7 is most auspicious and envy inducing.
I'd further like to add this video alone is responsible for the spike and absence of available 2008 WK intakes.
Im going to do a install, but was there a hole in the back of your 08 intake manifold?
Hey Martin do you have a link on where to get that adapter plate or do you build and ship some? Looking to do this on my 00 dakota
Would love to see before & after dyno numbers to see if this is worth it.
Believe me it's worth it I didn't need a dyno I could literally feel the difference.
Thanks Martin for all you do I took your advice and put on the 08 manifold on my 04 overland HO but the knock sensors hit so I tried to relocate him but I'm getting knock sensor codes where is a good place to relocate them thanks
I just tried both 08 and later intake manifold both fit with clearness as long as you turn the knock sensors straight back or slightly toward the cylinder head. Hope this helps.
Martin, where can you purchase the fuel hose that connects to the fuel rail, left side, that also connects just to the left of the transmission? Mine was broken during removal of the engine! I use to live in Veagas back in the 1980,s, loved the pick a part sites and videos!
I'm not sure where you would purchase that new I would recommend the pic-a- parts that's where I would go.. Vegas has changed a lot since the eighties if you haven't been here since you wouldn't even recognize it or know how to get around.
I've been here since late 93 and it has changed an incredible amount.
Can you please tell me how you got that ground strap off your bell housing without taking the intake off?
The IAC on the Oh-8 is wholly incompatible with the IAC circuit on the WJ
Great video!!... Is there a different intake manifold from a different vehicle that would make it easier for us novices to install w/O having to drop the 2004 JGC 4.7 H.O freedom edition engine? Also do i need to order the custom part you made for the throttle body? And was this after you installed the 09 or newer camshafts from the durangos?
Thank you, There are some people that have been able to install the 08 and later intake without having to drop the engine most likely do to there Motor mounts being in poor condition. An HO engine is an HO engine no matter what model it comes from.
Yes you'll need to order the throttle plate adapter from someone that carries it like airram.com or I've also seen them on eBay now.
Yes I installed this intake before I ever did the 08 camshafts. I was running the HO Cam shafts at the time.
Amazing channel man, was wondering if you could point me in the right direction on where the ho knock sensors are located?
adam25000 Jeep stuff thank you! there under the intake manifold. You probably didn't want to hear that.
So where were the knock sensors in this video...i didnt see them under the intake when u removed it...
@@CH-kk4rr i did noticed the same. NO knock sensors , hmm
I thank the lord for your video. U am currently stranded in boise Idaho. Some guy came by and pucked up a wrench and started trying go help me take out spark plugs (I was replacing them). Long story short...he dropped the socket info the manifold. Ive tried everything. Magnets...everything. I undid my manifold but the top wont come off. I sat there and stared at it for a long gime and started to cry. In 900 miles from home and dong know a soul here. Single woman....i am a little intimidated. Wish me luck. I am going to do this. I bought new gaskets. What else do you recommend replacing while undone. I alrwadt did the iac and the throttle sensor and cleaned fhw theottle body.
sorry to hear that, I wish you were closer, I help you out. I would think you should be able to get it with a magnet, you'll need one that has a long wand on it to reach the socket. I doubt that socket would ever get sucks into the cylinders, it would just sit there on the bottom of the plenum.
Hello Mr Martin
I just seen Your episode
I have my Jeep 2004 4.7 v8 and am trying to install the same thing on my Jeep but I have missing the correct part or way to connect the pip of intake directly from the throttle body to the air box or without air box maybe.
And where is the pic sensors installation?
Could you please help me how to do that ?
Would I have to program the compressor again if I remove it ?
Hi Martin great video. Liked and subscribed. Have you ever had an intake manifold on a 4.7 ticking? I stuck my stethoscope on every part of the engine and could not find the source. Nearly blew my ears off when I stuck it on the left side of the intake manifold. 03 dodge ram 1500 btw. Thank you for all you do!
Thank you for subscribing appreciate that.
no I never had a manifold tick but I have found where you will swear it's coming from a particular source with a stethoscope and it turns out to be totally somewhere else I'm wondering if it isn't a hydraulic tensioner for the timing chain.
A cup of red ATF transmission fluid !!! Thats it.
Well put video Martin. I was curious if this wuld wrk on a 04 durango 4.7l. Can I turbo it? Thx
Thank you, Yes it will work on your Durango 4.7. I would think you could turbo it.
I have a quick question. I am grateful for your channel. I have a Jeep so, I look forward to upgrading like you do.
I over torqued the manifold intake bolt towards the front (right hand side, closes to the head light) and snapped the bolt in the head. Now, I took out the manifold intake to put in a new bolt in it's place but can't figure out how to get it off from the actual manifold, and is it possible without having to getting a new manifold? Thanks
Yes you should be able to drive that bolt out from the underside of the intake. Use a small deep socket and a hammer. Shouldn't take much effort.
Thank you, so much!!!
Hello, where did you get the throttle body adapter plate and bracket
Thank ya sir. I have a 06 durango 4.7 an i wanna do the same thing. If it makes a big difference. Because I have a 66m turbo I was gonna stick on it. But don't want to blow it up lol.
Yeah, this intake manifold makes a huge difference compared to the factory original.
When I added the 75 millimeter throttle body that I built, it was very impressive.
I’m going to be picking up my intake soon and I’m making my own throttle body adapter.do you think there will still be a pretty good gain with a factory throttle body on the 08+ intakes? Im doing the cams and injectors soon to pair with the intake.
yes, you will notice a definite improvement.
Good luck with your build.😎👍
Great work. Did it improve the horsepower and if so, would you recommend changing the cams as well to match this improvement?
Yes it definitely improved horsepower and torque. I will be going with the 08 + cams as well hopefully soon. I have them already just finding the time to do the swap. And then I will me getting a flying Ryan tune
@@martinbuilt what's a flying Ryan tune?
@@jamesdewer
Flyin Ryan Performance
frptuning.com/
So you only need to lower the engine temporarily to get the new intake in, and once that's done you can reinstall the factory motor mounts? You don't need new mounts that let it sit permanently lower?
yes just lower temporarily and depending on the condition of the motor mounts you may not have to lower the engine at all.
I had recently replaced the mounts which held the engine higher.
Due to the IAC issue I returned to the 68mm with the back honed to 70mm. It works great The guy I bought the intake from got the model years messed up. 3rd Strike. I bought so many parts from them I lost track myself. The IAC is crititcal for cold idle, mileage and proper metering of air entering the manifold. Mounting the MPS threades right into the left side of the intake and is very responsive a location.
Thanks Martin! Would the '08 air intake and cams work on my '99 as well?
Yes it will work on the 99 4.7
Thank you for watching.
Martin, What do you think the HP gains of this would be on a 4.7 vs. 4.7HO? I'm trying to decide if the gains would be too minimal on the HO to be worth doing.
One thing you have to realize in 04 the intakes are all the same between the two engines and if I saw that big of a gain from my non HO engine I will guarantee you will see the same with the HO engine. It has been one of my favorite mods that done so far.
Thanks very much my brother I dont no speak inglés 👍
You're very welcome I'm glad you found it helpful. Thank you for watching 😊
Broke my ram's intake and can't find replacements that aren't $700 but i can find 08's and up so it looks like i'll be doing this and the TB upgrade if i can snag a TB from a junkyard.
I have one from my 04 Jeep Grand Cherokee if you're interested
@@martinbuilt intake? How much?
I’m putting a 08 intake on a 05 GC. Do I need the EGR form 08 or will the stock 05 work fine?
Thanks for all the great videos!!
never done it with an EGR but, I would use the one from your 05
@@martinbuilt great thanks!
what about the map sensor gap
Awesome work. Can you do my 2004 4.7 Limited ? Also LOLOLOLOL @ 33:39
Hi, Martin. Do you got a link for the fuel line removal tools or what they are called? Thank you. Hope to hear from you soon.
Fuel Line and A/C Quick Disconnect 7pc Tool Kit amzn.to/2Zi2Xli
Hi there I have a 2006 Dodge Durango with the 4.7l, I'm kinda confused about the mounting sleeves, How many do I need of what size? thank you in advance.
5 of the ones with the small hole
Does anyone know if this will fit a 5.2 liter 318 small block from a 96 ram? Stock heads with a port, or would I need certain heads for it to work? If anyone knows anything please any information would be greatly appreciated
No, man, the 318 is a completely different beast. Check out where the camshafts are in a 318 vs a 287.
Is this manifold better flowing than the 4.7L HO manifold? I know it's different than the regular 4.7L manifold.
Yes it does have better flow and shorter Runners than the ho intake manifold. I noticed a huge improvement over my 04 intake manifold
Can this also be installed on a 2006 Jeep Commander 4.7l? I'm assuming it can, just want to confirm.
Yes it should fit.
Hey martin .. I just got done installing 08 + intake on my 04 overland... after seeing what you went through I was prepared to lower the engine but mine actually went in with no resistance... all I did was remove the weather Stripping and I got it in.. the intake I installed was Part # 53032761A1 and donor vehicle was a 2009 ram 1500.. maby the later ones were a little bigger? I have no clue.. but I did have a 1 problem and anybody in stalling 08+ intake on 4.7 H.O will have the same.. bank 2 knock sensor hits the bottom of intake and will prevent proper alignment of the intake.. so mine are now relocated to the outside of the block.. It's still like to know why mine dropped in and yours didn't...
It could be that your motor mounts are warm enough this causes the engine to set just low enough to get the intake manifold in. I had recently replaced my motor mounts and I think that is what the difference is.
I did install the newer 08 intake manifold and I do have knock sensors and had no problem installing it. The runners do look different on the bottom side from the earlier to later model intake manifolds. Thank you for the heads up.
Starting at 14:14 minutes of your video, you can see that you do not have knock sensors ... The HO engine has them under the intake manifold, but you do not have them in the video.
Can i use the bolts for the 08 intake from the junkyard on my 03 Durango
No you can't the bolts that hold down the intake on the 08 manifold are integrated into the coils. You'll need 8 of the older bolts.
I have a 2002 Overland 4.7L HO. What spark plugs would you recommend? I have the Champions in it now. Also would a 185-190 T-stat help? I read that the engine runs better cool. I'm not overheating, but I sure do have HOT heat....!
Yes for the HO engine I would run the champion platinums or I hear a lot of good stuff about the NGK. Yes the engine definitely runs better at cooler Temps. I currently run a 180 thermostat but the radiator is not efficient enough to keep the engine out 180. You have the hydraulic fan the same as I do I am personally not that crazy about that fan. In theory it should be great but I feel the RPM is a little on the slow side. I did figure a way how to pump up the RPM but I also noticed that gas mileage suffered. So I am currently working on a electric fan conversion. I don't want to do the full install on the fan yet since we do have cool temperatures I want to wait till things warm up a bit so I can see the actual difference.
@@martinbuilt Thank you
Was this install done before or after the ho cam and solid lifter/lash adjuster install?
After the cams and lash adjusters.