Breaking Down Pat Metheny & Lyle Mays Most Beautiful Song
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- Опубликовано: 9 ноя 2021
- In this episode I breakdown Pat Metheny and Lyle Mays composition "September Fifteenth" of the As Falls Wichita Falls, So Falls Wichita Fall Album.
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If this ear training can get me to figure out some of the absolutely badass weird chords that Lyle plays in a lot of his songs then I'm in!
@@alexeonbel4304 it doesn't, practice makes you be able tl do it.
@@bleromafia Yeah I know that. Ear training is a form of practice my guy lol.
Hey Rick. Mayfly- by Terry reid is up there for me as one of the most beautiful songs. Terry Has had a bit of recognision over the last few years, but was for a long time forgotten.
Hey Rick my favorite Jazz record of all time is Conference of The Birds by Dave Holland also on ECM. Do you think you might could take a crack at it one day? I don't really play jazz so I find this really interesting. I like to think that I learn little things that I can take back to my own ambient and psych rock compositions.
Lyle was one of my classmates at North Texas State ‘75. One of the most brilliant musicians I have ever known. So saddened by his passing, RIP old friend.
Lyle and I both started at the University of Wisconsin- Eau Claire in 1971. Several friends and acquaintances were music majors, so I met Lyle and saw him perform many times as a UWEC student. Amazing talent. I was excited to see him perform at Summerfest (big music festival in Milwaukee) in 1975 or maybe '76. What a blast.
I’m from Fort Worth and I first found out about Lyle from the iconic “lizard” album. A lot of fantastic music on that album, which was basically a Lyle Mays album with the 1:00 band backing. The beginning of many decades of incredible music-making.
I met n took pictures with Lyle n Pat in St. Louis. Both are Certified Legendary Artists. In Memphis, I cried at the passing of Lyle. Did you know Lyle and Maurice White, founder of Earth wind and fire, one of Lyle Mayes tracks is featured on one of EWF albums. It's so beautiful it will make you cry. I play it when I visit my mother's grave. Eyes watering now.
The whole "As Falls Wichita..." album is a masterpiece. Two incredibly gifted musicians at the top of their game.
I completely agree.
The top of everyones game, when the student has learned as much as they can from professors, universties & giging they are then perhaps ready for Pat & Lyle...
Incomparable!
☘
💖🙏💫
Superb music
THREE incredibly gifted musicians. Don't forget Naná Vasconcelos, who was absolutely awesome in it. The title track wouldn't even exist without his eerie percussion effects.
@@goytabr Agreed!
Incredible record. The song “Ozark” has what I feel is some of Lyle’s most amazing improvisation ever. You can literally hear the connection from Lyle’s brain to his hands dissolve as they fuse into one on this piece. That connection that was absolutely magical.
I had the pleasure of seeing this tour from the front row of The Bayou in DC in 1981. Percussionist Nana Vasconcelos six feet from me. and Pat just to his left. Our jaws were on the floor. That is now some 43 years ago, but my memories of that performance remain perfectly clear. A truly incredible period for PMG. Happy Birthday Lyle - you are missed.
Though I don't play, thank you Rick for showing the intense complexity of that sublime, beautiful and masterful piece. When PMG came to my college campus in the early 80's, I was gobsmacked. After that concert, I was in like the mob. Five years later, when I pushed the play button on the cassette player in my apartment for background music on a first date, AFWSFWF played. I was floored when my date named the album and the song. She was beautiful, smart, loving and she knew who PM and LM were! Fast fwd 36 years later and this incredible person who has accompanied me to PM concerts over 3 decades, the mother of our two amazing sons and the love of my life, turns to me last night and says: Pat Metheny at the Kennedy center in June? Just like 36 years ago - she had me at "Pat Metheny".
Now that is a lovely story, wishing you both happiness forever. Hello from Ireland.
@@damiangill3463 beautiful country Ireland with beautiful people!
Im jealous
In a good way
Making love to Pat Metheny LIVE at Jackson Center outside, near Ashland, OR .... 1987-88 ...... They played this song. My favorite. Pat & Lyle 4ever in our hearts (!!)
That's rad
Rick … you have great hearing. Mike Metheny, Pat’s older brother, taught my arranging class at Berklee in 1976. He introduced me to Pat, Lyle, Mark and Danny. I helped them roll their gear out from their van and into the club where they played. I’ve been following the PMG and have seen them maybe 50 times. I never got tired of watching or hearing them play. Like one of the comments says … when Lyle played it was like HEAVENLY MAGIC touching your soul. RIP Lyle …
I just saw Pat last night in Patchogue, NY with James Francies on keyboard and had to consciously keep telling myself that it's ok for this young brilliant player to NOT be Lyle, and understand that Pat was doing something very different than the group, which has always been something he and Lyle both did, but it just cemented for me how much I miss Lyle and can't believe I'll never hear him play live again. But I'm happy I allowed myself to overindulge in many numbers of live performances of theirs and screwed up my courage to introduce myself to them both a few times. Your description of Lyle's playing is spot on!
Brilliant story Rebecca. I love pat too.
I really celebrate your good fortune of being near to those gigantic human beings... ❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹
I will probably need an autograph. 😀 I was a few years behind Mike and Pat in Kansas City. It’s really hard to believe he came from a small ‘burb outside of KC to become such a legendary composer and jazz guitarist on a historic level. 14 hours of practice doesn’t hurt…but there is no denying he was/is a progeny.
@@oystertoadfish1149 I think you meant a prodigy! :o)
"There'll never be music created like that again. Lyle is gone and that time has passed. But we can always travel back in time and listen to this, any time we want." And that is the magic of music.
Yes. Not a particular fan of this type of music but I agree it will grab many people's hearts.
Everyone (I hope so) has a song they would like to "hear" the last time.
Mine is SBB's "Z Ktorej Krwi Krew Moja" (From Whom's Blood Is My Blood")
It has Slavic character (the band was from Poland), with different chord progressions and overall feel that crushes and uplifts me both at the same time each time I've listened to it.
It is very different from this track that is synonymous with the best of the American music culture and the melody feel, yet most likely it evokes similar feelings like this song does with you.
Well said from UK listen to Gone on ahead ( topic)..orginal me singing song needs a new home..
Lyle's work on First Circle is the work of a true master of his craft. Gone way too soon.
That is such a great album.
Iwas fortunate to see Pat Metheny and Lyle Mays play this in concert. It was a surprise to me to see and hear them do this live..you could hear a pin drop at the end of the song...astounding.
EDIT.
due to popular opinion, I am happy to now advise that Rick Beato is rapidly becoming an INTER National Treasure. Any reference to National Treasure must now be considered insufficient scope.
Thank you for your attention
@@finmac5548 well actually I am in Australia so you’re right, an International Treasure who is almost single handedly keeping classic 60s, 70’s, 80’s and 90’s music alive and opening the ears of a whole new generation to what makes that song great.
My thoughts exactly. I know Rick is a treasure because his knowledge, his musical talent and his sharing of his love of music has brought so much joy into my life. What an amazing life he shares with us.
International Treasure!!
True. Rick is to music what Carl Sagan was to science. His knowledge and enthusiasm make it so accessable without condecension.
The National Treasurer?
So nice to see Lyle Mays getting some recognition here. Back in 1972 and 1973 he and I were both music majors at the UW-Eau Claire. Even then it was very apparent to all of the rest of us how talented he was. His rehearsals were "event's" to go and watch when we'd hear about them. So happy for him that he could have such success. He certainly deserved it!
Lyle was such a great artist, very underestemated. Hé was the reason I got interested in Pat Metheny Group. What a brilliant musician,, RIP Lyle 😢
Lyle is so missed. Pat and Lyle feature almost every day of my life still. In my office and in my garage.
OMG. FINALLY someone besides me feels this way about this song. I've said for decades that this is the most beautiful song I've ever heard. Even without the mechanics of it. I'm an accomplished musician/composer so I fully get that aspect of it. But to couple that with the soul shaking, poignant sadness of the result puts this song in its own category. The entire album is near perfection, but this song is a gem by any standards. Lyle was a gift to humanity, and this song reflects that. Add in the nylon and its all over. Thank you Rick for bringing this treasure to your audience.
You were never alone. Since the album came out I have always owned a copy and have played it throughout. My personal favourite is Ozark but this is such an incredible piece of music. Glad Rick got the chance to make this video. Remember. You are not alone. :)
One of my favs too
In late '81 I was stationed at a remote site in Alaska. I'd been a PMG fan for a few years. I was also kind of a radio nut and had my stereo going one night with the little dipole antenna they come with--there was NOTHING on FM at that geographic spot, some AM and mostly shortwave was all one could get. No internet then, sat link would come a bit later.
One night the aurora must have been active and the dipole antenna was just lighting up my FM stereo tuner with stations, many of them coming in in stereo. I was getting Portland, Seattle, who knows where else. But on one of those stations I flipped through, I knew I was picking up something I'd never heard from Pat Metheny and Lyle Mays. I thought it was from a new group album since the last one had been AG in '79. But I was familiar with everything they had done so far and I KNEW this was something new. I caught about 30-40 seconds of it and was blown away. I thought it was one of the most beautiful things I'd ever heard and it was burned into my memory. FF about 7-8 months later, back stateside, I find AFWSFWF and there it was, the song lost in the weeds of a thousand or two miles of air that I chanced to pick up on a rare night of FM transmission--September Fifteenth!
This is the only Pat Metheny record I have, and I bought it back then, in the '80s, because of that song. And I agree with you. It's not just the best song by Pat Metheny & Lyle Mays, but one of the best songs ever written.
@@midirok country music called and wants you back as a fan. Hurry, luke Brian will help you on board. Lol…
If Rick Beato calls you up and asks you if he can do a video about one of the songs you own the rights to, you should be thrilled and say, "Of Course!"
Right. Imagine how many downloads of this song happened after Rick released this video. Who would ever *not* want a Rick Beato video deconstructing their song!
Amen to that brother
@@WickBeavers i have a simple solution to that.. don’t make shitty music!
The artist might say yes, but the record company says no.
@@michealpants Ihave been around long enough to hear so many critical notes on new music. My dad used to say "the Beatles won't get anywhere!" Then we used to catch him humming along to the Long and Winding Road and All You need is Love and his hair got longer and longer... I think good new music is always liked out of the box. GREAT new music is frequently spoofed post its release.
Pat & Lyle were pure magic. Their time together was too short. Thankfully we have so many great recordings from those days. Great job, Rick.
I bought that As Falls Wichita LP when it was released and the sadness and achingly beautiful tribute to Bill Evans was so touching I almost had a leaking face when I first heard it. Lyle Mays made an intensive study of Bill Evans' playing and knew just what made it so special. Pat Metheny too I think was a long time fan of Bill's music. Lyle was one of a kind too and greatly missed. That pairing will never be repeated sadly - Lyle and Pat thought alike a mutual musical telepathy really.
One of the greatest recordings ever made. The thing that’s so remarkable, Lyle’s piano solo was unplanned. Rick you should press Pat for more details, but the story is that they got to the end of the waltz, and Lyle just continued playing. And Pat, sensing the moment, quietly urged him on in the studio with the tape running, playing a few backup lines on guitar as if to say “keep going! keep going!”. Brings chills to think about. Especially as a tribute to Bill, like he was right there with them in that moment.
wow, I never knew! Great addition to the story!!
I’m so happy Rick mentioned that this was a tribute to the great Bill Evans. I think I hear Bill imbedded in the “soul” of the song. I wish Rick would bisect Peace Piece, Waltz for Debbie, but ultimately my favorite, Remembering the Rain.
Yeah, Wow!
Cool story. It's great that people can share these moments years later.
I have a few of my own, and just very occasionally there's a relevant opportunity to share. It's a lovely thing.
Pat said in his podcast (commenting on this album together with Lyle) that around 9:50 (in this video) is where he and Lyle ran out of what they had prepared for the recording! From that point on it was all improvisation on the spot. And when Lyle became inspired for the way forward (around 10:40 on this video), Pat knew something truly magical was happening and so he got out of the way and just added subtle background brushstrokes on the musical canvas for Lyle to paint over. Masterful musical partnership! I defy anyone to really listen to this song and not be powerfully moved - almost to tears of intermingled joy and sorrow. Lyle was a fantastic writing partner for Pat who will be sorely missed...
Such a beautiful comment, David. Part of the magic of this sequence for me (from 9:50 to 10:40, and then beyond to the end), is that this is, after all, a tribute to Bill Evans. It makes so much sense (in listening to this), that Pat ends up allowing Lyle to move the sound of the piano forward in the composition to say a final goodbye to Bill. As an aside, I heard Bill at Fat Tuesdays just before he died...and it was devastating when the news came. Hearing this piece by Pat and Lyle allowed some grief to move forward. In any case, I love that Lyle's playing takes the piece to some kind of peace by the end, with Pat joining in the final measures to close it out, quietly, beautifully, perfectly.
Pat's solo after Amelia on Joni's Shadows and light was also a brilliant duo with Lyle complimenting Pat.
They were the greatest.
Pat Metheny has a podcast??
All this beautiful magic of Pat and Lyle created a stunning tribute to Bill Evans
Yeah, what podcast??
This song brought my mom to tears when I played it for her many years ago. Indeed one of the most beautiful songs.
I'm not sure most non-instrumental people can appreciate the life-long, endless practicing, and God-given skill level that is involved in that piece. Love your heart for the content.
Pat Metheny's 1975 to 1984 period on ECM was incredibly special for many of us. Thank you Rick for the beautiful deep dive on this track.
Phase Dance 1978 ECM - Pat & Lyle's hauntingly beautiful piano
is spectacular!
Virtuoso musicians -
Recorded in Norway !
🎷🏖🙋♂️
@GaryFox11000 Definitely my favorite tune from that one, and "San Lorenzo", I think maybe "End of the Game" from First Circle (84) is my all time favorite. I remember when American Garage came out, the local AOR FM stations in CT were playing it, FM hadn't quite moved to the current model of only playing 3.5 minute "hits", and would play just about anything, even jazz and the occasional 20 minute prog suite, I miss those days, stopped listening to FM entirely when that changed, but I digress... 😂
The live version of San Lorenzo from the 4 song EP is perfection personified. Intially that 4 song LP was a release to radio stations only, circa 1978-79. Fortunatley KTCL in Ft Collins Co. played it quite a bit, I taped it way back then and have enjoyed it for years.@@abortretryfail9350
Rick I am by no means a musician but I have greatly enjoyed music for decades. I want to thank you for greatly deepening my appreciation for music. You have helped me rediscover the richness of good music and heightened my appreciation for the construction/composition of good music. In short, you have made my life better. Thank you.
I second that! Much appreciation Rick! 🙏🙏 🎶 🎵
Well said. I was really moved by this video. Lyle is sorely missed, but fortunately we still have Pat around. May he live long and prosper ❤️
@Brian Vawter Thank you 🙏🏻 🙏🏻
Ditto. So much music is so very very BAD. It is nice hearing about the theory behind the music I love.
Well said Brian!
For decades now, I've believed that September Fifteenth is my favourite and probably the most beautiful piece I've ever heard. It never looses it's potency.
As I write my comments, tears are cascading down my cheeks along with so many emotions as I see how emotional you are in breaking down this brilliant, complex, and sublime masterpiece. 🎹🎸 RIP Lyle. 12/17/23
You know it just hurts at the end of the video when Rick throws the reality back in our faces at 13:28 (and it's totally true) .."there will never be music created like that again... but ..we can always travel back in time and listen to this anytime we want."
Listening to this album 24/7 for long months when I was around 16-17 years old made me the person I am. These are the moments I realize how unbelievably much I owe to Lyle and Pat.
Hear hear.
This an album I will be forever grateful to my Dad for turning me on to. My Dad wasn't a musician but he fell in love with this album and asked me how I liked it since I was a musician.
I know what you mean. Listening this treasure since ever!!
Same story man..
@@famouswww Me too. Full album on endless repeat while staying up late reading The Wheel of Time series.
Sometimes learning/ analyzing a song ruins the ‘ magic’ but watching Rick break down this masterpiece.. only makes me appreciate it , and the chemistry between these musicians.. more !!! Bravo Rick!!!
Thank God for RUclips and forums like this. I would not have realized how intricately constructed a lot of their songs are. They truly are amongst the elite of their genre. I hope Lyle is in a good place and still playing and creating excellent music.
Rick, this album was my lullaby in 1981 when I couldn’t sleep. My friend Tom turned me on to it. I was just 18 at the time. I was into Rush and Yes, so this was super mellow to me, but I recognized the beauty and in it and it shaped me as a musician, eventually going to see him live. I have to say, it really is one of the most beautiful songs ever written, and the soundtrack of my high school days. Thank you for recognizing this for the masterpiece it is.
One of the most poignant, and moving songs ever composed. I miss Lyle Mays.. What a brilliant mind.
I am so impressed with Rick's ability to hear music and recreate it so quickly. These are not uncomplicated chords. Minor 7 flat 5 over C!!?? Who can hear that and know what it is? Amazing....
An experienced musician can hear these chords pretty easily.
Rick blows my mind!
@@belsha I've been playing all of my adult life, but I got a late start. I am a full time musician, and I cannot hear those chords. I struggle to hear even basic changes . . . though I'll add that I never challenged myself and made a study of it. I'm going after it now, and it is coming along. I've always been able to hear a chord in my head that I wanted "next" in a song that I'm writing, but I have had to construct it note by note, experimenting, because I lacked the vocabulary, the theory, and had not done the work on my ear. Being able to name the notes in a chord, it's learning how to hear it, but it's also learning enough theory to be able to put names to them.
@@belsha experienced musician here to say not true. This is a gift.
@@KennedysKitchen my teacher,professed to play 2 note chords,3 max. .
I dont think Pat would do that,except,his arpeggios,of 2 note structure,Are a chord,in a sense. If you slow it Way down,like me,ya might get 1st three measures....???? Far easier to listen!
Kurt Elling,pays tribute to the genius
of both guys.
I saw Jim Hall play 'with' Scofield,at MJFest,and Halls' 'solo',was All 5-6 note chords,Scofield nearly crapped his pants,accompanying! If you werent a musician, you wouldn't even know what had happened !!!!
For decades I thought Pat Metheny was my favorite musician, and it was not until after Lyle passed that I realized it was the combination of Pay and Lyle that I loved so much. Pat's other endeavors are all wonderful - even the ones I don't care for, like his albums with Ornette Coleman or Steve Reich - but NOTHING moves me the way Pat WITH Lyle's keys does. A whole different level of soul.
I have seen Pat in concert a number of times and I have to disagree, he is amazing without Lyle. Of course they were incredible together but he has played with a number of others and it’s been magical. I just saw him last summer in Barcelona and it was as incredible as ever.
@@acooksla you are welcome to disagree, although my comment was about my feelings, my impressions and my preferences. So your disagreement is irrelevant. You could just as easily have stated what you find exceptionable about Pat Metheny, without creating a disagreement.
I think Lyle Mays really captured the spirit of Bill Evans with that solo. You can hear the Impressionism and melancholy that is so him. A truly fitting and emotional tribute.
As a brazilian who starts to listen to Pat and Lyle since early 1980´s, I´m still amazed by the music they composed and played together. Lyle´s death was a massive loss for all of us. Pat was influenced by (and also has influenced) some of the greatest brazilian musicians, like Milton Nascimento, Toninho Horta and many others. The beauty and magic of Pat and Lyle music still fills my days since then, bringing back those memories of seeing and listening to them alive in many concerts here. Unfortunately time passes and, as you´ve said, music like that wil never be made again.
Don't forget Jobim!!
De longe, me lembra "Retrato em branco e preto".
@@scottvincent770 Forget Jobim? Never, ever! Jobim is the greatest of all times.
Sí, escuché a ‘Vitro e Corte” con Pat Metheny y Milton Nasciemientos. ¡Exquite!
Parece música mineira.
Thank you for showing Lyle some love. I was surprised at how much his passing affected me. He was responsible for some beautiful and moving music.
completely agree
Pat and Lyle had unique musical chemistry, they were a match made in heaven. "Wichita Falls" and "Watercolors" are two of the most beautiful records I know.
Shortly before his death Lyle Mays released an epic track called "Eberhard" that is dedicated to the great bass player Eberhard Weber and that I would also recommend to all Lyle fans.
Well said sir, well said.
Agreed - learning of Lyle's passing was just devastating. I'm glad Rick was able to do this - a shining example of what Pat and Lyle were able to create together.
I agree.. September 15th is the quintessential Pat and Lyle. This piece is at the centre of almost all of the rest of their creations. Tonal beauty, harmonic journeys, solo fireworks and sonic landscapes painted beautifully. I really miss Lyle …
I couldnt agree more...
I have played this piece of music many times while driving up any given canyon in Utah. I've had at least 4-5 people say to me " that is the most beautiful music I have ever heard ". And every time they waited until the song to end before saying anything.
Another reminder for me that it's "Lyle Mays season" again. Every year, for many decades now, November in the Midwest is a time for to hunker down, look inwards and be in the moment of the season turning to winter. Only Mays and Pat can do that for me. This was such a pivotal album for me. But later on, Mays' "Solo" record - especially the track "Long Life" has been such a melancholy comfort. This video does such a fantastic job of breaking down the genius of these two men - and it validates my love of Rick Beato, perhaps if only selfishly for enjoying these songs as much as I do. Lyle Mays is still here with me, especially in my car on cold November days. And here come the tears again.
Bravo Jo, very well put ...the song has been one of the loves of my life since I bought the album on vinyl many moons ago & this is the first time I have experienced the pleasure of sharing the magical feeling it wraps me up in with another & of course if I had been presented with a choice, I would have chosen Rick for his very obvious love & expertise. It is a piece of music that I believe will never age & while being a tribute to Bill Evans it will forever also stand as a testament to an incredibly successful musical marriage.
Yes. Glad I read this.
(Hoosier Greetings, brother.)
Lyle’s melodic gifts are timeless… The equal of Bill Evans… no greater praise could be said. Both could take songs to even deeper, more meaningful spaces than the original compositions. This song reminded me of “Peace Piece” AKA “Flamenco Sketches”.
Thank you for the recommendation. I can't wait to check out more from both of them.
I could not have said that better.Your experience is mine aswell
Still blows me away as to how mature these guys were in their early 20’s…very rare!!
No kidding, right? I have a theory that most people are approximately one age during almost their entire lifetime. Pat and Lyle were always like a lucid 80 year old in the bodies of 19 year olds.
True. There must’ve been something about the 70s that produced musicians of this caliber because the musicianship of that time period was phenomenal.
@@andreadaniel8792 I think part of it was that there was much less bs in the airwaves…
Blows me away too...
My older bro turned me on to this album when I was in my teens. The beauty, joy and tranquility of their collaboration helped get me through some hard times. I listen to it when I need to transcend this mean 'ol world. It holds so much emotion for me that it actually hurts, but it's the joy of unabashed sentiment that fills my eyes and heart. Peace.
So we'll said...I float on the flood of memories this song evokes...no other.
The best song ever recorded on the most significant album ever made, period. A more profound record will never be made.
Rick, I don’t read or write music, can’t play a lick on any instrument and never had a desire to. Watching you on these videos makes me feel like I’ve been doing all those things my whole life. Thank you for what you do. Lyle and Pat were just something so special. I hope that musicians everywhere, not just the ones that play jazz realize the utter magnificence of this music. ❤️
Just another example of why record labels shouldn't block things, I have have never listened to Pat Metheny and after this video I am reminded why yet again I was wrong not to. I will be deep diving into his catalogue now. Hauntingly beautiful.
Likewise
There is so much magic there to explore. Your dive will be very satisfying.
Oh, my. Bon voyage; this is a trip that will enrich you for the rest of your days.
Check out Fandango, the song and the movie.
Wow!!! From Bright Size Life through to The Way Up (not even including the endless side projects as well)... masterworks!
Their work will be studied for centuries (along with the many other jazz "innovators" as well) similar to how we regard the Classical Masters today.
You will be moved... continously.
1987, my very first day in a new country which happened to be Melbourne Australia, I was window shopping at a St Kilda book/music store and suddenly heard this most beautiful emotive music. I stepped inside and shuffled around the shelves to hear the whole album. I HAD TO BUY! I was asked "vinyl or CD?", I requested a CD which had to be ordered in from USA, then I had to wait a few months to save up for a CD player. Oh the anticipation.
As Falls Wichita Falls, So Falls Wichita Fall Album always takes me to a time of wonderous new beginnings and joy of life - beautiful beautiful album.
"And that, kids, it's how I got into jazz". That's what I'll tell my kids. Thank you Rick!
I was absolutely obsessed with Pat Metheny and and Lyle Mays starting at 18 years old and well into my 20s. In the depths of my personal mental health struggles during those years, this particular song (and Are You Going With Me from Offramp) somehow resonated with my feelings and gave me a lot of comfort. I'm getting a little choked up listening to this. Thank you for doing this. You are absolutely right, this record is so, so very outstanding and there is nothing in music today that compares to it.
Offramp is a great, over looked album. Some of my favorite Metheny Group tunes.
Love from Palm Beach Gardens, FL, but even better... I'm in New Orleans for 6 days!!!
I know that feelings
When I first saw the video title, I was wondering if the song might be "Are You Going With Me". Happy to have it be this one, but yes, I've always felt that song really expresses something profound about human longing.
The solo section Lyle plays at the end of the song is like falling leaves, pleading their case, telling their story as they gently fall ….
This is the BEST
Has always been my favorite Pat Metheny / Lyle Mays album. Honestly did not think I could love that winsome song any more than I do now. I have heard it 1,000 times, record, CD, MP3, You Tube, live, etc. But something about seeing the 'Learn'd Astronomer' explain it, made it even more magical! Thank you Rick.
One of the sooo many beloved songs from Pat and Lyle!
Lyle Mays' passing broke my heart. What a perfect match he was for Pat!
When Rick is playing single notes in such confusing song with so many jazz chords, I for the moment imagine that I can play guitar like him 😄
Don't worry, mate! It's only for a moment!
A very kind complement Artem. I feel exactly the same.
I feel you bro
3:35
Felt like cheering, "Dude! I know that chord!!!" here.
👍😉
So strange, Artem... my guitar has exactly the same six strings... but it does not sound like Rick's... And I just don't know (or I refuse to know... 🤭) why... 😂😂😂
I first heard this poignant song on the movie, "Fandango" which is rather underrated. The scene with this tune is touching and beautiful, as is the scene with the wedding celebration. Both are rare moments when I remember the tune and not the scene - the music is just that good. Fandango opened my eyes to Pat and I am forever grateful.
Agreed! The soundtrack was excellent, especially PMG. The song when they're dancing is "It's for you", one of my favs. The movie ended with Blind Faith's "Can't find my way back home".
@@peteshallcross787 Nice job recalling the songs and scenes...takes me back. I'm glad you are a fan too!
@@peteshallcross787love the song when they were dancing. I didn’t know for many years who it was by, but it always stuck with me.
Yeah, great song! We just returned from seeing Pat's solo concert in Milwaukee and it was amazing! Better than I thought it would be.@@greggfowler2458
Totally agree Since the day this album came out, this song always absolutely slays me. EVERY. TIME.
RIP Lyle. What an incredible duo they made.
The album’s title cut is referenced in my last will and testament, to be played at my funeral. Been in love with this album for 40 years.
From what I remember, they typically don’t read the will until after the funeral. Let close loved ones know you want it played at the funeral. 👍
Travels is my final funeral song ..... as I slide in to be cremated....
@@michaelbarker3749 yup, got that covered… good advice!
Love Pat and Lyle, their music has never failed to take my mind to a peaceful place.
I can’t agree more, Rick, and watching you revel in Lyle Mays’ incredible solo in this piece was almost too much to bear. I’ve felt this way about this song since I first got goosebumps hearing it decades ago, and I can only hope you help keep it alive for new generations to hear and love. Thank you!
I was devastated when May’s died. He was a compositional hero of mine, I saw PMG twice in 1987 on their Still Life Talking tour. I was sitting about 20 feet away from Mays which was amazing. His solo self titled album is also brilliant
Lyle and Pat just simply synced. The way they could structure chords together was uncanny.
Minuano(six eight) is another tune that takes me to another world.
Saw Pat in London June12th 2022, still going strong and with invention.. I think in 100 years Pat and Lyle's work will be looked back as masters of late 20th century music.
I was in Hammersmith also! That was my first time I could listen to Path live after many years. Great performance. Endless standing ovations. I was impressed with the piano/keybord player.
@@MrScald6 Same here! Very impressed myself having only learned of Pat and co. a few months prior.
This was my first Metheny album. I was introduced to Pat in 1981 with this album. I fell in love immediately. His music is the most feel good beautiful music on the planet.
This song has broken my heart for decades. I go to a very special place when I hear it. Well done Rick.
Cum se numește piesa? Melodía...
I've never heard this song before. But within the first minute I had tears in my eyes. Great music can do that to you. Thank you Rick for sharing this beautiful piece with all of us.
I'm mesmerized too Burke, beautifully done by Pat & Lyle..
Same here, I'd not heard before but ..those chord changes are something else! Almost painful as Rick gently landed on the D6 ..utterly transcendent.
Te rog frumos să-mi spui cum se numește piesa?
Just a note that this tune was dedicated to jazz pianist Bill Evans. If you haven't listened to him, do yourself a favor and check him out as well!
This track formed the background for pretty much my entire life. What a blessing.
I listen to this every September 15th. Lyle was amazing. His Fictionary album is stunning.
Me and a buddy (since passed away) use to listen to this on our frequent road trips to Hatcher's Pass in Alaska, north of Anchorage. The music so suited the moody treeless tundra up above the treeline. Thank you for the memory.
Oh Rick - I have known this piece for nearly 40 years and always said it was the most gorgeous piece if music I've ever heard and it breaks my heart EVERY SINGLE TIME I hear it. THANK YOU for sharing this song with your fans!! ❤
This song played in my mix tape on my way to see my sister in Ohio. I kept playing it over and over again, singing with Lyle. My sister survived sn abusive husband. She lived with multiple sclerosis and was dying from her second time with breast cancer. Everytime i hear this piece i think on her beauty, resilince and courage and how sad and beautiful and how precious life can be.
Hard to describe the beauty of Lyle and Pat, but Rick did his best. Heavenly.
I can't imagine why any musician or publisher, would restrict your usage of their material. It is nothing but an amazing advertisement for it and must generate more sales of their product. Love your work, Rick.
who said record companies were smart? LOL I agree with you 100%
Absolutely Agree!
I don’t think it is Pat. It is ECM, which is notoriously stingy, despite being a really great label. Pat is not even with them anymore - so I don’t think he has much to say about it - but I might be wrong.
Anything for a buck these days...
I would have thought an educational video like this would fall under Fair Use, and not require copyright clearance (at least in the US).
Every song on this album is a masterpiece. 40 years later and nothing about it sounds dated. More importantly, the emotions the songs evoke are still as powerful today. Thank you Rick for your channel and for honoring one of the most important duos in the history of music.
Rick, what a wonderful tribute to Lyle. It is moving to see how much you deeply appreciate what he and Pat provided us.
Pat and Lyle put you in a different zone💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Coincidentally, this is also one of my all time favorites. Such a complex and beautiful song. I’m going to pour a glass of red, put As Falls on, lean back and immerse myself into the music 😊
Lyle's touch on the acoustic piano was magical - listen to how those notes chirp!
As an undergraduate one of my friends was close friends with Danny Gottlieb and we always got tickets whenever they came into town. So we went to a show in Georgetown, and Lyle was complaining that his parents were there and he did not have a solo on the program. So about halfway through the program, Pat started improvising something and then left the stage and Lyle played a 10-minute soul-melting, mind-blowing solo that completely stunned the audience. It was sometime in 1979.
I've had As Falls Wichita album swimming around in the back of my mind for over 40 years. A Navy pal introduced me to Metheny/Mays way back when and to this day I bless him for it. I've spent countless hours with this music. Your interviews, tributes, and breakdowns are a joy and one of the very best reasons to spend time on You Tube.
Lyle Mays epitomised what Miles Davis had in mind when he said ‘I listen to what they DON’T play’. Melody, space, and atmosphere - pure class. Great breakdown by Rick as always, and certainly a candidate for most beautiful song ever. Never gets old.
Rick, please keep doing what you're doing as the world is, no doubt, a far better place.
Just saw Pat last night on the Dream box tour solo. Just the most amazing performance I’ve ever seen. Pat is a true virtuoso, a genius. I can’t say enough good things about Pat Methane’s music.
This is a beautiful song....I used to fly listening to this CD for a calmness found no where else....may Lyle RIP
Couldn't agree more Rick. September Fifteenth is a Masterpiece. I've listened to it 100's of times throughout my life and most times I can't help myself but shed a tear or take an emotional breath. The melody just does it to me like no other melody.
Rick that was a beautiful journey about that great song ! Pat and Lyle were truly exceptional composing and playing together . I was fortunate to meet them and hung out with Lyle for a day in Montréal Canada when they would be playing in town . Lyle was not only very down to earth and just a very humble person but many would say he was a genius . We all miss him greatly . 🙏🏻
My father passed away on a September 15th as well. So this song title always makes me think of him. Beautiful tune. Sad that Lyle is gone. He and Pat Metheny are like the Lennon/McCartney of jazz.
the reason this is so good is because of the emotion it evokes- Lyle's playing was always so "in the moment" and so stirring...
Being able to play by ear is possibly the biggest gift any musician can be given. I envy your ability!
Gift? He has been working on it for decades
He took it
It's not a gift, it's thousands of hours of training his ear and gaining a deep understanding of harmony that allows him to interpret what he's hearing. No less amazing but to say it's a gift does a great disservice to Ricks body of work.
I’ve never heard this song, Rick; but it’s so reminiscent of the feeling Bill Evans gives me that it’s a perfect tribute to his genius. I will be getting Pat/Lyle’s record today. THANK YOU. ♥️
Bill freaking Evans, you got that right
Love this since 81
This made me cry... I grew up in KC around the time Pat was in high school and have always marveled at his talent and his band mates. Love the deconstruction of the song. As Falls Wichita... my favorite PM album. So many memories.
I played this song 3 times in succession after my dad died, because it mirrored my feelings of heavy sadness, followed by a glimmer of hope. It’s in my Top 5 songs of all time - stunningly beautiful ❤
This is musical composition and performance at the top of the top of the mountain. Only a handful of people on the earth at any given time can create something of this order.
Amen and Amen!
Or analyze it and de-construct it so effectively too...
The title track of this album is astonishingly...out of this world at a whopping 20 minutes and 44 seconds featuring Naná Vasconcelos.
What and how they'd conceive such masterful work in that era is beyond our comprehension.
Pat and Lyle's work is so indistinguishable; people find it close to impossible which category their music belongs too.
*It is it's own category!* RIP Lyle Mays
I had the great fortune to see this piece rolled out for the first time here in Mpls. MN while sitting next to Pat's cousin Bonnie all those years ago. It still seems like a dream.
Greg J.
If Metheny doesn't go down in history along side those deemed to be among the greatest musical composers to have ever lived, in any form of music known to man, I will eat my hat.
Damn he's underrated... I know he's beloved by many many people especially musicians, but I don't think he gets the popular recognition he deserves
It's a f shame...
Absoooolutely !!!!!
its like being alive in the same time as bach, vivaldi, and beethoven bruh.....
@@izzydeguy184 Yes.... I was even thinking of great classical composers when I formulated the thought and penned that post about Metheny.
Eat your hat. Ears are loaded with rap trap and reggaeton these days. This is too sofisticated
This music is so powerful that sometimes I just can't listen to it, it's like I have to prepare emotionally to be able to take it in. There's no other song that can do this to me.
Lyle to me had a singularly delicate weight to his solos: so powerful, yet so light, and an incredible ability to build them so gradually and perfectly measured...
You nailed it!! How long did it take you to learn such a complex progression? The larger issue is, how can such insanely complex chord progressions wind up sounding so hauntingly pretty, almost simple (and, well, so effective)? Think about the genius of these two, at such a young age! I've listened to this song countless times over the decades ... it's so perfect and timeless ... and can practically bring you to tears every time.
It's an emotional journey, this song... it transcends beautiful.
i share this feeling about this song. I'm listening it since 30 years... the most beautiful music yes.. Lyle we miss you so much.
Ever since watching the movie "Fandango", "It's For You", from the same album has been my favorite Metheny/Mays song (from the same album). The scene it's played over is just perfect for it, and surely must have been edited specifically to it. An absolutely beautiful song! If you've never seen the movie, I highly recommend it! It's a very funny and poignant 'road trip' film of college friends taking their last trip together and the coming together that growing apart often brings in life.
It’s For You is my favorite on the album as well, though I never saw the movie Fandango. I got the album when it first came out, and something about It’s For You evoked a lot of emotions.
@@CaraWeston I suggest you watch the movie. It’s excellent! The scenes with the song are so well adapted to it that it’s as though the song was written for the scenes rather than the opposite.👍
"Don't I know you?"
"You used to."
I, too, have seen the movie, and this is where I've discovered the masterpieces of Pat and Lyle. It has become one of my favorite movies of all time, and of course the music was just too perfect of a fit. I'm happy to know that there are others that loved the movie and the music as much as I did. Thank you for sharing!
@@riffguru the movie is a severely under-appreciated gem, that’s for sure.
Rick: You are the absolute best music teacher I've ever had the joy of listening to. I think I've figured out why. It's not the mathematics or technical aspect of a song, which you explain so well. It is your heart, your love and appreciation for music that is so genuine and infectious. And yes..., this song is simply "wow beautiful" in every aspect of how music touches us. I started out sitting and listening. The song picked me right up. I'm floating.
Pat Metheny & Lyle Mays have literally changed my life musically. Seen them In concert twice the most amazing experience