My 2 favorite players ever. Huge SVB fan but Effren will always be my favorite. The chess game in rack 11 was spectacular, a true testament to how skilled they both are.
Yea Sir, me too. I have a hard time connecting with most of todays pros.. gone are the Mike Siegal’s Earl Strickland’s, Minnesota Fats, and Steve Mizeracks, That were great entertainers as much as they were great pool players. . Making the crowd apart of the game and still shooting lights out. Efren wasn’t a talker, but he had a silent charisma about him, and the occasional smile and dance. That said, I really like SVB. What a talent that guy is, and like Efren, he is quiet, but has a silent charisma as well. Not to mention the best break in pool history in my opinion
I'm an older guy and one of the many things I appreciate about Efren is he removes age an excuse for bad play. Great win for him. He's still got it. Sweet.
pool still requires great eye sight, amazing coordination. the ability to get the body to do what the brain wants. that is very comparable to basketball and tennis, so get off your high horse you fake ronald mcdonald.
Loosing a game is so hard on anyone but loosing to Efren Reyes isn't cuz you're not going to loose anything if you played against him instead you're going to get to know everything about pool he's a real legend undoubtedly the goat
Matt Mason I do that every once in a while and it makes me think of the scene in the Big Lebowski where the Dude is listening to a bowling tournament with headphones on. LOL.
Like pool,and much safer than rodeo,(my sport of choice back when) really enjoy watching videos that he is doing his stuff.The escape in life is attitude, and he wears that well.would love to meet this great guy.peace and patience to the sport!!
Miller2theMax lmaoo those pre match hand shakes make me awkward for them! There should be a universal pre match hand shake. Just a straight hand professional shake like the one efren went for. Instead of the clasp hand shake that shane was going for. Both r fine but i feel like the straight hand shake is just the most common
POOL GOD EFREN. there will never be another.... the legend.... (luckily theres a ton of videos of your talent in youtube) hope you can play for another 40 years! Godspeed...
one of his interviews he said i’ll show the world my tricks after i retierd . cuz he started his career as a gambler and he still wanna hide his secrets .
You got that right. I thought, OK, Shane is the top American player, at least HE should give Reyes a run for it. They need to start giving Efren a handicap.
1:01:43 is one of the most incredible shots I've ever seen, if not the one. I wouldn't think that it's humanly possible to make such a shot. And to make it in competition, against someone as formidable as Van Boening is extra special, because if you give Van Boening anything chances are you'll lose the match. Efren truly deserves the nickname "the magician." To me he's the GOAT. Perhaps Van Boening is beginning to show a little bit of age here, compared to his younger years.
@@antoniobalentawak2599 sabi nga ni efren kabisado niya lahat ng banda,. Pero karamihan daw ng mga magic niya ay chamba, nakikita lng sa mga tournament, pero hinde niya magawa sa practice yung tira ulit.. Meron naman ay sinadya niya tlaga ang tira.. Ewan ko lng kung totoo ang sinasabi ni efren na karamihan ng tira niya ay chamba in English lucky, kasi ang sabi niya sa interview in tagalog hinde niya inaasahan na papasok ang bola karamihan chamba.. Pero hinde ako naniniwala kay Efren kung chamba bakit madalas ang magic niya, iniisip ko baka humble lng tlga siya.
but to be able to run the table after that hence, the shot he made at 1;16;54 thats when you take the air out of your oppositions wings,, and they crumble''
47:25 was far and away the best shot of the match. safes aren't as exciting as pots, but this was brilliant. This is straight out of 3 cushion billiards. legend!
I have been watching a whole lot of Efren videos & even had the honor of seeing him play in person..from what i think,after the break he does not plan ahead for the next 3 balls but planned a mental layout for all the balls..his brain seem to work similar to a GPS..true legend
I can't imagine being somebody in the background, just casually playing pool next to Shane Van Boening and Efren Reyes. My game would end real quick and I would be right next to that table soaking in every second like a sponge.
Watching Dennis & Bustamante @ the corner rooting for Efren. I'll see them tomorrow @ Family Billiards SF for Cole Dickson Memorial tournament 2017 & Shane Van Boening, rest of the pro's @ California Billiards for 10 Ball Pro Event.
I didn't watch the whole match yet but the best shot I have seen is the 2nd shot of the match by Efren back cutting the 1 ball. Many people don't know how difficult that is. I practice that shot occasionally and can make it about 2 for 10 but I have never made it from that far from the pocket. Also there is masse involved and at that distance the calculations and experience necessary are phenomenal. Also I don't think Shane thought he would attempt it. Bet SB never did it again.
LOL well Shane either didn't expect Efren to shoot it or he didn't expect him to make it and I am just a Fargo 450 you are probably better than Shane or Efren. I always keep an open mind when conversing with a master @@markhamblin8195
Efren : I'm the best in 9 ball ever...and 8 ball... and 10 ball... and I have a nickname, sit down kid lol honestly though now the efren is retired svb is my new favorite. He's just so smooth. No crazy flashy shots, just perfect que placement
First shot of this match for Shane, he mindless makes a push just like, " Eh, what could he possibly do with a cross table, almost frozen rail one ball shot?' Instantly pockets it and runs. You can tell he instantly is rattled because next rack he comes up to table and misses the 2 ball shot and blinks he is down 4 to 0. He then always seems to have a hard shot and you can tell he starts hammering the balls a little more than usual leaving himself harder shots then he could and "shot makes" his way back to tie it up. When 7 to 5 he makes the two rail kick on the 3 ball after a beautiful safety from Shane, and thats it. Just magic. All you can do is laugh at what he consistently does. This match is a master class.
i do. the reason why i know how to appreciate shots like that. it's a stroke you do during practice, only a handful dare do it in an actual match, you try it an it's not guaranteed you'll get repaid. but perhaps you're a pro who thinks that tough shot is merely routine so....
We love to imagine a contest between champions of a different generation. For example, Mike Tyson vs Mohammed Ali, both in their prime. Or Efren Reyes vs Willie Mosconi. I think right here we're seeing two champions of different generations compete, though Efren isn't squarely in his prime he is shooting very close to it at an old age. I think Shane is a generational champion of champions, and he will beat Efren in the future should they meet. But Efren's legacy is so solid. And his superior tactics, knowledge and ease at the table puts him at least one level above Shane, IMO.
Comparing Efren to Shane is like comparing Jordan to Irving, Muhammad Ali to Canelo. Don't get me wrong, Shane is good but not Reyes good. Shane hasn't even done a tenth of what Reyes has done in the sport.(been a fan of the sport for over 3 decades)
I was staying a few nights in Ermita. Next to my hotel was One Side Billiards. I went up there for a few drinks and I saw Efren Reyes playing this white guy, who I later learned is possibly the greatest American pool player ever. It was a game I never heard of, one pocket. I did talk to Shane later that night, nice guy. And I got Efren to shake my hand.
Yeah... I'm just gonna go with WOW!! I've already used up every other superlative to describe the GOAT, so WOW seems to fit pretty good for a win against SVB at the young age he is. 😊 Two favorite players here...👍👍
My 2 favorite players ever. Huge SVB fan but Effren will always be my favorite. The chess game in rack 11 was spectacular, a true testament to how skilled they both are.
Yea Sir, me too. I have a hard time connecting with most of todays pros.. gone are the Mike Siegal’s Earl Strickland’s, Minnesota Fats, and Steve Mizeracks, That were great entertainers as much as they were great pool players. . Making the crowd apart of the game and still shooting lights out. Efren wasn’t a talker, but he had a silent charisma about him, and the occasional smile and dance.
That said, I really like SVB. What a talent that guy is, and like Efren, he is quiet, but has a silent charisma as well. Not to mention the best break in pool history in my opinion
For me they are the two best players in the world, I admire their humility ...
@Munsters Kim humility doesnt have to do with being socially strong, its a virtue
Something many people lack in all walks of life.
@Munsters Kim You are a punk and have no room to talk.
@Munsters Kim it doesn't take hearing n teeth to be great at billiards ya douche
@Munsters Kim kepala bana kao!
Damn this is 2017!!!???? Efren is still such a legend.
THIS IS 2021 LOL
ITS BEEN A WHILE
@@mohamedbekk9143 2022 my guy little more of a while now ahaha
@@judedunne50462024 my guy
This deserves a thumbs up even before watching the whole thing!!!
pagoda
I'm an older guy and one of the many things I appreciate about Efren is he removes age an excuse for bad play. Great win for him. He's still got it. Sweet.
Still fan will always bring that excuse to the table
When people stop to watch and the lights turn on Mr. Reyes just shines. Such a showman and a true champ.
The magician can still get Win at his age. You are a legend!
what do u mean at his age , its pool not basketball or tennis
aljurius juganas theres a guy locally that i play with hes got to be almost 70 and he is probably the best player in my county.
pool still requires great eye sight, amazing coordination. the ability to get the body to do what the brain wants. that is very comparable to basketball and tennis, so get off your high horse you fake ronald mcdonald.
Pool is no where near as physically demanding as basketball/tennis or any real sport you inbred fuck
Billy Gibson mike sigel said during the king of the hill tournament that in his opinion pool is the hardest game there is.
Waited so long for this match between two of my favorite players. 😭😭
Bata Reyes made 3 balls with kick shots in this match, amazing, nobody is so consistent in kicking balls with that precision.
You're really the greatest, Sir Efren. Thank you for your humility and silent lessons. You're my favorite in the world!
My two favorite players. Also big fan of Alex. Earl as well. Efron's cue ball control here... still simply amazing. Loving this match.
EFREN is THE BEST POOL PLAYER TO EVER PLAY THE GAME....EXTREMELY LUCKY TO HAVE WATCHED THE MAGICIAN PLAY...PURE BEAUTY AND ART BESPOKE.
1:01:43 is one of the most impressive, insane kick shots I've ever seen. Efren is truly amazing.
very difficult shot
It may be the best shot I've ever seen.
@@mustwatchthis50 More like very impossible. But I guess professionals are used to this kind of thing.
@@ugaugauga488 Amazing hit, but He was very fortunate that ball went in but as Efren says... "I get lucky"
yeah, but you make your own luck, and Efren can do that better than anyone in the game. Goddamned brilliant.......
Loosing a game is so hard on anyone but loosing to Efren Reyes isn't cuz you're not going to loose anything if you played against him instead you're going to get to know everything about pool he's a real legend undoubtedly the goat
mohamed kamal true words
imagine not being able to spell losing
12:56 , damn good shot
i think a lot of people under valued that shot, i rewatched that shot several times when i first saw it
@@demographics1107 I think he just played it with a lot of topspin.
plays it so effortlesly
@@sladjanivkovic2 Yeah he did. It's a combination of top spin and speed. They call it force follow. It's just a very clever way to play for position.
Efren is a master of using spin on his shots
I love watching both of these players play against each other. As both have excellent talent in there shooting styles. Praises to both players. 🎱
Could swear i hear the Pearl in the background. Thank you for this.
"sounds of the pool room" great to listen to while going to sleep
Matt Mason I do that every once in a while and it makes me think of the scene in the Big Lebowski where the Dude is listening to a bowling tournament with headphones on. LOL.
So true.
I wonder if I did listen to this every night I'd shoot better?
Can't agree more.
Hahahaha! Got that right, i like sounds of balls hit each other!! Lols
There is no way I would be able to play in that room knowing there is a living legend playing a few feet away from me
They do the qualification
I had been looking the match between these two the whole days, finally I got it here..
Andi Liem
Efren still got it 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you genipool14 for your uploads ... all of them
The Man, The Myth, The Legend The Magician Efren "Bata" Reyes !!!!!!
That synchronization that Efren and the dude at the top-left of the screen have at 52:09 when hitting the 6-ball 0_o
Very observant !
MAESTRO!!
and that Player is Dennis.
David Chacon illuminate confirmed
that player is Dennis Orcollo, also a filipino
Best commentary EVER!!! So nice to sit and just watch without having to listen to somebody's take on the game!
Earl Strickland commentating this would be nice
What a match!!! Efren's still got it! Your channel is the reference when it comes to good pool on YT. Thank you for your excellent work.
I've got the utmost respect for Efren; he is an AMAZING player and for what I've heard a remarkable human being.
Yes, he is a very humble guy.
made roosters duel in his backyard tho
@@fabunch4o759 😆
Greatest all around pool player ever lived! Even at 62, he can still manage to beat with today's top pros!
Like pool,and much safer than rodeo,(my sport of choice back when) really enjoy watching videos that he is doing his stuff.The escape in life is attitude, and he wears that well.would love to meet this great guy.peace and patience to the sport!!
His kick shots and 3 rail cue placements is what separates him from the pros... unreal
Efren is a beast , in his 60's and still awesome. GOAT
I love these quiet matches without commentators talking about pool in a way pool league players can understand.
I think US commentators are just really bad. Thry are always yammering on about every shot. I prefer the silence too.
Efren has played hell lot of games throughout his career and that is way he's still the best player for the youngsters..👌👌
0:25 Best handshake ever.
Miller2theMax lmaoo those pre match hand shakes make me awkward for them! There should be a universal pre match hand shake. Just a straight hand professional shake like the one efren went for. Instead of the clasp hand shake that shane was going for. Both r fine but i feel like the straight hand shake is just the most common
Nnbb😇😇💟💟nn
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@@Mickster114 stfu
@@blacktrump9041 I agree with you that Trump is way better a President than Martin Van Buren.
Miller2theMax Lmao! I had to go back and watch it. Too funny! They’re both like, “handshakes are stupid”!!
I feel like I should have to pay to watch Efren play. Just pure mastery.
POOL GOD EFREN. there will never be another.... the legend.... (luckily theres a ton of videos of your talent in youtube) hope you can play for another 40 years! Godspeed...
i hope he writes a book. So that his wisdom about the game can be learned by other people
You can't learn what he has. He's a generational talent.
Yeah because pool is such a difficult and almost impossible game to learn and play
@@blacktrump9041 - Pocket Billiards is just like Chess: Easy to learn, enduring to master.
one of his interviews he said i’ll show the world my tricks after i retierd . cuz he started his career as a gambler and he still wanna hide his secrets .
I don’t think he can transfer his knowledge to a book he made statement he just knows
great match, Efren got every roll though too, it rocked Shane's confidence. love watching these guys play!
Pleasure to watch two great pool players...Efren is truly a magician...pool is known by his name only
In his 60s and still taking the young players to school....
You got that right. I thought, OK, Shane is the top American player, at least HE should give Reyes a run for it. They need to start giving Efren a handicap.
Andrew_Owens Efren is the handicapped 🤣🤣
Lol
@@andrew_owens7680 o
@@cry_now_laugh_later do you know who Efron is?
This is SVB playing pool on extreme difficulty mode
These two are as good as it gets... 😎
Thanks!
1:01:43 is one of the most incredible shots I've ever seen, if not the one. I wouldn't think that it's humanly possible to make such a shot. And to make it in competition, against someone as formidable as Van Boening is extra special, because if you give Van Boening anything chances are you'll lose the match. Efren truly deserves the nickname "the magician." To me he's the GOAT. Perhaps Van Boening is beginning to show a little bit of age here, compared to his younger years.
Actually, SVB has the greatest respect for Efren, the man...and his game!
I wonder how his mind works Efren. Genius!
@@antoniobalentawak2599 sabi nga ni efren kabisado niya lahat ng banda,. Pero karamihan daw ng mga magic niya ay chamba, nakikita lng sa mga tournament, pero hinde niya magawa sa practice yung tira ulit.. Meron naman ay sinadya niya tlaga ang tira.. Ewan ko lng kung totoo ang sinasabi ni efren na karamihan ng tira niya ay chamba in English lucky, kasi ang sabi niya sa interview in tagalog hinde niya inaasahan na papasok ang bola karamihan chamba.. Pero hinde ako naniniwala kay Efren kung chamba bakit madalas ang magic niya, iniisip ko baka humble lng tlga siya.
but to be able to run the table after that hence, the shot he made at 1;16;54 thats when you take the air out of your oppositions wings,, and they crumble''
If they were playing call pocket, he would have lost his turn.
Efren the GOAT. Always fun to watch.
47:03 That snooker escape from Reyes, absolute class 👌
It's quite easy to leave your opponent with no shot or pot the 3 ball from 2 rails and that speed.
@@tesha199 let's see you do ittt
Pool God in action..lucky are them that he played with..they felt his Magic.!!!
What a pleasure to watch him play. He really knows his game
At 20:07....one of the best shots ever....and the crowd erupts in cheers!
Lol he was trying to kick safe not make the ball jabroney.
both ways broo .. i usually do the same
@@alphacapo You don't know Efren bayyyy beeee!
@@alphacapo nah. Efren is also trying to pocket that. Efren has done that shot countless times
1:01:42 another one
47:25 was far and away the best shot of the match. safes aren't as exciting as pots, but this was brilliant. This is straight out of 3 cushion billiards. legend!
i think he was aiming to pot the 3 on the other side. kinda what he did on 1:01:39.
Cueball touched rail 6 times actually to stop where it stopped
@@arpeemac Probably. . But Efren is as lucky as he is amazing. Even the pool Gods respect him. 😉
I've never seen a match between these two players so far!
The wait has over REYES vs VANBOENING
Well deserving of a rematch.
Imagine a prime Reyes playing Shane. Shane wouldn't get a single rack.
I have been watching a whole lot of Efren videos & even had the honor of seeing him play in person..from what i think,after the break he does not plan ahead for the next 3 balls but planned a mental layout for all the balls..his brain seem to work similar to a GPS..true legend
I remember when Efren Reyes could run 7 to 8 racks of break and runs on you and have you just sitting there watching thats how good the guy was.
thank you genipool for all the great uploads...
Shot of the match: 1:01:37
Still the magician
the only shot that could be considered lucky for Reyes, would be a break shot in rotation where every ball went in in order on the break
The magician!
when people post and finish same why do they add gay at the end
Yes, indeed!
althought SVB lost, i still applaud for his effort to level at 5-5 from a 4-0 deficit.
I can't imagine being somebody in the background, just casually playing pool next to Shane Van Boening and Efren Reyes. My game would end real quick and I would be right next to that table soaking in every second like a sponge.
Brooooooo you ain’t lying. No possible fuckin way I’m playin pool period. Hell I’m watching them allllllllllllll night long. Period.
Indeed. He doesn’t know what he missed.
Ikr. They have the life time to play pool, why not stopping for a second and watching a legendary match.
1:00:54 - 1:01:48 SVB's reaction to that incredible leave tells you everything you need to know about Efren's game.... and so does the shot lol
Dude that was incredible
Efren is the GOAT ! It's amazing he can still play at this level and beat players like Shane!
Another one bites the dust.....
Efren Bata Reyes the magician
The best
Shane: "just glad to be here"
Hey I bet he learned a few things! They're both my favorite players :)
Watching Efren play is like a dream.
1:01:39... The Old Efren keeps rocking...
that deserves a standing ovation only efren can pull a kickshot like that.
finally! Shane vs the great magician!!
vic luevano hello
They played beafore and shane won...
@@jonathanbottoarana2250 Now efren!
@@jonathanbottoarana2250 your boy is not even a top 10 lol
@@JairoHendrix dont talk shit if u have any idea ábout shane stadistics...
Watching Dennis & Bustamante @ the corner rooting for Efren. I'll see them tomorrow @ Family Billiards SF for Cole Dickson Memorial tournament 2017 & Shane Van Boening, rest of the pro's @ California Billiards for 10 Ball Pro Event.
THE GREAT GOAT WILL EVEN DIE UNDER POOL TABLE. EVERY ONE HAS TO LEAVE ONE DAY, BUT THIS PERSON'S LEGACY WILL REMAIN FOREVER.
39:46 the way his left hand lift up his cue to avoid it colliding with the cue ball is very smooth
I didn't watch the whole match yet but the best shot I have seen is the 2nd shot of the match by Efren back cutting the 1 ball. Many people don't know how difficult that is. I practice that shot occasionally and can make it about 2 for 10 but I have never made it from that far from the pocket. Also there is masse involved and at that distance the calculations and experience necessary are phenomenal. Also I don't think Shane thought he would attempt it. Bet SB never did it again.
That shot isn't that tuff...you just play bad
LOL well Shane either didn't expect Efren to shoot it or he didn't expect him to make it and I am just a Fargo 450 you are probably better than Shane or Efren. I always keep an open mind when conversing with a master
@@markhamblin8195
Shane: I'm the best in 9 Ball right now. Efren : Hold my beer...
XD
Efren : I'm the best in 9 ball ever...and 8 ball... and 10 ball... and I have a nickname, sit down kid lol honestly though now the efren is retired svb is my new favorite. He's just so smooth. No crazy flashy shots, just perfect que placement
Efren one of the best ever at kick shots.
*The best
KALABANTESH yes the best lol
Not one of the best HE IS THE BEST!!!
Efren is the GOAT
He is the GOAT and also the best at kick shots
First shot of this match for Shane, he mindless makes a push just like, " Eh, what could he possibly do with a cross table, almost frozen rail one ball shot?' Instantly pockets it and runs. You can tell he instantly is rattled because next rack he comes up to table and misses the 2 ball shot and blinks he is down 4 to 0. He then always seems to have a hard shot and you can tell he starts hammering the balls a little more than usual leaving himself harder shots then he could and "shot makes" his way back to tie it up. When 7 to 5 he makes the two rail kick on the 3 ball after a beautiful safety from Shane, and thats it. Just magic. All you can do is laugh at what he consistently does. This match is a master class.
First shot is so good
my favorite 2 Best players
Dennis King me too
SAME MEN
Me too
Fudge me too.you're right
Me too man. Efren is the greatest.but we gotta give Shane props
I have never seen anyone that can control a cue ball like Efren and Shane.
Look at that stroke at 12:40 to play for position to the 4. Amazing.
jezreel terre I agree that was a great stroke
perhaps he doesn't play because of people like you?
jezreel terre yes it looks like an easy shot but if you observe the arrow that ball does, it is really very difficult.
it takes a nice stroke to do that shot
i do. the reason why i know how to appreciate shots like that. it's a stroke you do during practice, only a handful dare do it in an actual match, you try it an it's not guaranteed you'll get repaid. but perhaps you're a pro who thinks that tough shot is merely routine so....
he still got it!! he won the best pool player for modern days!
i never seen shane van boening got schooled so bad....
There is no shame there. Efren is the GOAT.
Efren and Shane, the old and young guns in pool. Shane has the technical talent of Earl Strickland and the humility of Efren Reyes.
We love to imagine a contest between champions of a different generation. For example, Mike Tyson vs Mohammed Ali, both in their prime. Or Efren Reyes vs Willie Mosconi. I think right here we're seeing two champions of different generations compete, though Efren isn't squarely in his prime he is shooting very close to it at an old age. I think Shane is a generational champion of champions, and he will beat Efren in the future should they meet. But Efren's legacy is so solid. And his superior tactics, knowledge and ease at the table puts him at least one level above Shane, IMO.
TallBob1962 he's way above Shane.
TallBob1962 Efren is the Michael Jordan of billiards
TallBob1962 in boxing pound 4 pound
Michael Jordon wished
Comparing Efren to Shane is like comparing Jordan to Irving, Muhammad Ali to Canelo. Don't get me wrong, Shane is good but not Reyes good. Shane hasn't even done a tenth of what Reyes has done in the sport.(been a fan of the sport for over 3 decades)
Gotta love a guy who’s not a human billboard, no braces, weights, or even a glove.. always great pool and never an excuse.. talk about a role model!
Efren's shot on the one ball @ 44:33 ..... WOW !
2 of the best players the worlds ever seen.
but mastery of a simple handshake eludes them
I was staying a few nights in Ermita. Next to my hotel was One Side Billiards. I went up there for a few drinks and I saw Efren Reyes playing this white guy, who I later learned is possibly the greatest American pool player ever. It was a game I never heard of, one pocket. I did talk to Shane later that night, nice guy. And I got Efren to shake my hand.
Yeah... I'm just gonna go with WOW!!
I've already used up every other superlative to describe the GOAT, so WOW seems to fit pretty good for a win against SVB at the young age he is. 😊
Two favorite players here...👍👍
two of the greatest players ever
Melon He4ad
The Goat.
He beat Shane at this age imagine when he was younger!
Two of my all time favorite players... the legend and the future legend 🤟🏻🎱
the disrespect when the genipool14 logo appears before he executes the final shot 😂😂
happy to still see him around in a good shape!
The shot at 3:26 wow what a way to start the game.
20:00 that whas just too mutch! =D Efren never disapoints!
Clash of the Titans. Magician vs SDK. Love it.
Excellent performance::: Efren Reyes!!!
Bata with the incredible cut to open the match
Wow, Efren will always very be the greatest one in the field 😍
I love how Efren is playing..effortless like breathing
JasonSt When hes been this good for so long it’s probably second nature to him
Shane is a good player too.. He is my favorite USA pool player..
Nobody controls the cueball like Effren Reyes.
It would be a dream come true just to play either one of them.
it's taking Efren a while to get those racks good. I know how he feels though. I always have trouble getting racks tight
nice shooting you guys. you make it look easy.