Super SD2 - SD2SNES\FXPak Pro Clone from Ali Express Tested (SUPER FX & MSU-1 etc.)
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- This is an unofficial clone of SD2SNES
Super SD2 (featured) www.aliexpress.us/item/325680...
FXPak Pro krikzz.com/our-products/cartr...
Additional info consolemods.org/wiki/SNES:FXP...)
I replaced the label on my cart, that's why it looks different.
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Just got my SD Cart. Awesome. Thanks for sharing. ~GrizzLee
I recognize that awesome Zelda music. One of my favorites
Wow, thats way more affordable. Krikzz is a great dude, but, our money is getting pulled every which way with inflation/cost of living, so, gotta save where ya can. Thanks for the demo dude!
Yes. In one hand I do feel guilty for knowingly buying a knockoff. But in the other hand... $250.
Krikkz is a great dude who deserves better than having his work stolen. Hopefully the video doesn’t get monetized considering it’s showing off someone else’s stolen work
Fuck paying 250 for a flash cart @@clintoncronin2504
@@clintoncronin2504 a fair assessment. This video can't be monetized due to the Lion King music.
pinesal is my alt account. I sometime forget which one I am using :-)
Interesting video , I want one !!
Really great cart, its played everything thats official and some hacks! I've had only one issue with it, and thats with some audio buzz with my 1chip. I fixed it tho with covering the pins 31 and 62. But that disables msu1 (not the biggest lost to me imo) and SGB2 audio, which sucked the most :/
Thanks a lot for this hint. I tried it here and it's also get ok on my snes 1chip. I loose a lot of days finding a solution and FINALLY, i got it. AWESOME hint! (Regards from Brazil).
I had to check this out because I have an old SD2SNES Rev x clone model that doesn't support msu1 even with a firmware update 1.11, despite there being more recent ones that claim it does. They must've updated the board somewhere.
That is actually pretty interesting.
Are the games included? I don't have a PC and don't know how to add ir look for the roms. I need just plug and play thanks would be awesome to have this.
Is it Project Nested compatible? I'm assuming it is since it does MSU1.
I just ordered one of these! I'm super excited to play Super Mario CD on it. Hopefully that dev team can make a whole game. I know the demo is out now.
Super Mario CD? I'll have to look this up
@@90sNick_Pinesal it’s actually called Mario Bros CD, my bad!
pretty cool
Sd2snes is actually the name of the product before it was called fxpak pro. Krikzz had to change name for legal reasons. What you're holding in your hands is a clone of the sd2snes.
Came here to say the same thing : ) No hate - but it should be made clear to people that there are legitimate non clone products called SD2SNES. Also there was a small run of sd2nes pro's. It's confusing because the clones were able to use the name SD2SNES because they are not worried about the same copyright laws that Krizz is.
@@cylonscotty7418 I didn't realize. I am not intentionally being misleading. Thanks for the correction.
I have a krizz cart that is defective😢. One thing I learned is that I needed to install some of the special chip files on the sd card and had trouble finding those. Does this come with those chip functions built in? Appreciate the video. Will more than likely order if I can figure out how to configure it with the proper files. Thanks.
The cart that I bought came with an SD card with the bios files preinstalled.
@@90sNick_Pinesal Thanks for the reply. Merry Christmas
Hey i am working on the file tree needed for all games and all CHEATS! The FXpak pro has a cheat file and if you want to i can send a 1 click solution for all the games to work. Including the JPN to ENG translation games! or if you go to Vimms Lair and go to SNES then search enhancement chip it will show you all the files and then what i did was renamed them to the proper name after extracting or unzipping them first. I worked on a full cheat files list for FX Pak Pro only ( SD2SNES is a separate file format) I can send you a google link so let me know.
@@Grant-H2O yeah sure. I am interested in learning more about your project
As for audio volume levels, did you download a prepatched rom package, or did you patch the roms yourself? There is two things that can cause bad volume levels. If you are playing the very first version of rom patches they were too loud and making a new updated patch rom will fix it. The second reason would be the person that converted the music into a pcm file was bad at it and made everything loud. I recognize that zelda as the one i made so i am not surprised it is a good volume level.
Most of them are prepatched roms from the internet Archive. I did attempt to patch on myself but the audio still didn't sound right. Part of me suspects that the DAC in this cart isn't good. The Zelda one was originally too loud and had an overdriven quality. I had to use a normalizer script and brought it down to something like -35db.
It would help me if you could give me an example of a set that should sound good out of the box.
@@90sNick_Pinesal also if it helps i have msu-1 tutorials
@@jud6ment Still available for share?
@@JB-mm5ff yes, i got around 40-50 games in msu-1
@@jud6ment ah cool man -- wya? interested in the msu1 tuts 😀
How do you boost the speed of FX chips like Stunt Race FX and Star Fox?
at 7:18 in the video I show how to do that.
Hey man, great video. Which button combos do you use for save states on this device?
Save is Start + R. Load is Start + L
@@90sNick_Pinesal Okay, I have an FX PAK PRO and it’s not that simple. I’ve never been able to figure out the save states on it and that’s important to me. It makes me think about getting the clone you have here.
@@in2it633 the save state function needs to be turned on in the options and states don't work on special chip games like Starfox. Try with Super Mario World as a baseline.
@@90sNick_Pinesal Yep I’m aware of that. I’ll try again. Thanks.
If you could show us the inside we might be able to tell what version SD2SNES this is to know what MSU-1 files it needs.
I took a picture just now. Does this tell you anything? I can get more if needed imgur.com/a/uH6RGsC
@@90sNick_Pinesal Hmm… it’s definitely updated compared to my Rev E1b and Rev H SD2SNES so maybe it does have more in common with the Pro version. I only have pics on hand of my old SD2SNES carts so I’ll have to take apart my FX Pak Pro later tonight to see how it compares. Very interesting!
@@90sNick_Pinesal Looks like I never even removed the FX Pak Pro’s wrap! The older SD2SNES is just that good. :)
IIRC, I got my FX Pak Pro on Black Friday 2021 and the board came marked “SD2SNES Mk.III Rev. B 2019-02-13 2009 - 2019 ikari_01.” I still see an inductor and capacitor that were added to a certain revision of SD2SNES to deal with interference issues on 1chip SNES consoles, so I expect to see it on yours too… but I don’t. This is probably a cost cutting move.
I can barely see what looks like a Lattice logo on your board’s FPGA where mine uses an Altera Cyclone IV and the older SD2SNES uses Xilinx XC3S400. I googled and found an Open Source project called “SD2SNES-ECP5” where someone converted SD2SNES to use a Lattice ECP5 FPGA, but that chip doesn’t have the same Lattice “L” logo. Still, it means someone did the legwork to convert it to Lattice’s suite of FPGA tools so it’s likely that this is what yours is based on.
I imagine they went with a different FPGA for cost reasons but it seems they are also doing something very different with the power regulation. Instead of buck converters I see multiple discrete voltage regulators on yours (U3, U4, U5, U6, U7). At least it appears to use proper level shifters to interface with the console (U101, U102). I don’t like that the solder mask doesn’t pull down past the edge of the contact pads since having it end on the thin traces promotes corrosion right where traces are thinnest.
Thanks for the detailed information! Do you have any clues why I cannot get MSU1 games to sound correct? I suspect the cart may have an issue with high quality audio.
@@90sNick_Pinesal I’m hoping they didn’t remove the audio amp or something. On my oldest SD2SNES (Rev e1b) I had to install the Borti4938 “SD2SNES revH” audio amp mod board to get correct audio levels. Unfortunately, it would not fit on any of these other variants.
Because the earliest versions of the SD2SNES also lacked the audio amp, early MSU1 ROMs were often modified to have boosted audio levels. Have you tried one of the older MSU1 ROMs with boosted audio? They may have removed the audio amp to save cost and expect you to use those ROMs instead.
That would be the best case scenario since the alternative is that they didn’t wire up the MSU1 stuff correctly at all and there is nothing that correctly supports whatever it’s doing for MSU1 audio.
6:57 CLUTCH banana peel replacement
I was seeing wavy lines on the green background of super Mario world. I tried changing power supplies, got a different console. Recently I got my SNES recapped and I was told my problem was the cheap parts in the knock off sd2snes. I didn't have a normal cart to compare it to. When I get my console back I might spend the money for the official fxpak pro. Otherwise I thought this product worked as intended.
I haven't had any wavy lines. Luck of the draw, maybe.
Hey I got the wavy lines issue with my everdrive from aliexpress too. I made a longer more indepth post in the comments section about it too. Although I believe my everdrive is a little different than the one in this video.
@@zacholdgames the in-depth reply is in the comments section of this video?
@@90sNick_Pinesal yeah in the general comments section
I am interested in reading what you had to say but I can't find the comment you are referring to.
Where does Krikzz have his carts manufactured? Probably in China, so these are probably the exact same board and components. I think I'll order one and see.
Yeah, I'd say likely exept that Krikzz probably has more intent when he chooses components.
No, he has his own pick and place machines that he moved from Ukraine to Spain after the war broke out. Some very old Everdrives were made in China but they stole the designs from him and he learned his lesson about that. SD2SNES was never his design though, so China is making these from Ikari’s open source files… same as you or I could. Krikzz’s own Super Everdrive is an inferior device by all measures but he never had to make a better one since the SD2SNES already exists and is open source. It’s a win for everyone.
My question is, are you brave enough to update the firmware? Krikzz has the updated firmware on his website I would like to know if what I heard was true, and that the firmware bricks clones it would be really cool if you would make a video about that because that would be great information to have cause I would love to update the firmware to my clone that I didn’t know it was a clone when I bought it off of Amazon so I’ve been stuck with a very old version of the firmware, so no save states or any fancy features, but I personally don’t want to risk losing the ability to play my Rom hacks I certainly don’t expect an answer to any of this, but it certainly would be cool, because I’m dying to know. Thanks in advance.
The cart I have came with firmware version 1.10.3 and I updated it to 1.11.0 and that's the firmware I am using in the video, you can confirm this because the Super Gameboy support was only added in 1.11.0.
9:32 nope it was for audio...yup decrompress audio you said it after i typed
Thanks for confirming!
@@90sNick_Pinesal no problem, now that msu version you have is A+ version of game
Pretty sure this is just an original SD2SNES, not FX Pak Pro (SD2SNES Pro). FX Pak Pro can do a bit more. Example: Save states in FX Chip titles.
Sounds right. I don't know the full history in the SD2SNES and the difference in FX Pak Pro. I thought the SD2SNES was renamed to FX Pak Pro. I didn't know about other changes.
@@90sNick_Pinesal No problem. Here’s a recap as I recall it:
The main FPGA in the SD2SNES was no longer available so they revised it with a new, more powerful FPGA and called it SD2SNES “Pro.” The name was short lived because of issues with having “SD” in the name so they quickly changed it to FX Pak Pro. I don’t think there is a non-Pro FX Pak but if there is then it was just a way to sell old stock after the name changed.
So, yeah, FX Pak Pro is equivalent to the very short lived “Pro” version of SD2SNES but not to the majority of SD2SNES carts (non-Pro). There isn’t a whole lot different (yet?) but the large FPGA means it doesn’t have to give up save states when replicating stuff like FX chip.
Can these clone carts be updated with the new firmware?
Safe answer is no. The truer answer is maybe. The one in this video game with version 10 and I updated it to version 11 with no issues. I suppose it depends on the specific one you have and there might not be a way to know unless you talk to someone who did it or you try it for yourself.
@@90sNick_Pinesal I did contact the seller of these and they says yes so might get one. Ty
I got an SD2SNES from Aliexpress and updated the firmware and no problems now I can play Super Game Boy games.
@@luisrb7348 which one exactly if you the link that be great
Hello friend, I will buy this cartridge on Aliexpress, I would like to know if Mario RPG works normally. I would greatly appreciate it. Did you notice any problems with the cartridge? Does it get hot or something? Greetings from Peru
Mario RPG does boot and I played it through the first Bowser fight but not past that. I have not noticed the cart getting hot but I think I would need more time with it to make a judgement.
@@90sNick_Pinesal I got this cart and I have random freezes every 5 minutes on Mario RPG. I'm trying to figure out if my specific cart is defective and if I should exchange it, or if they're all pretty much like that. Can you or anyone give it another check and see if they're having the same issue? Every other game has worked flawlessly so far.
@@Trinciacrophobia I'll check today. Does it freeze and then continue or does it freeze and you have to reset?
Mario RPG me daba problemas pero después de actualizar el firmware del SD2SNES el juego funciona excelente.
Я купил такой флешкартридж за 8 000р. Star Fox, Doom, Super Games 😮😮😮
Nice Video!! Where can i Download all the games by list just like you ??
Check the Internet archive.
Cyles SNES Rom pack
Mine came fully loaded with roms from us, Japan, and Europe and many others.
@@yourbrokenoven Mine did too but I removed them and loaded my own set.
@@90sNick_PinesalHi! Love the vid, does this pack include all the MSU games as well?
@@luchbalao6179 the MSU games weren't included. I found a bunch of them on the Internet archive.
It actually isn't the same as an FX Pro. The FX Pro can run MSU1 at the same time as special chips. The Clone only does one thing at a time.
Thanks for the info, I'll test that and get back to you.
@@90sNick_Pinesal Internet Archives has some great stuff for MSU1.
@@90sNick_Pinesal I can play on SD2SNES Street Fighter Alpha 2 which uses a special chip (DDSP1) with MSU1 upgrades (arcade music and no loading times) at the same time.
what a cope
I got the super sd2. I'm disappointed by the vertical lines in sprites in almost every game...
That doesn't seem like something that would be the fault on the cart. Hmm,
@@90sNick_Pinesal well that cart is the only thing that displays the artifact. Original carts of the same games do not. What do you think it could be? I tried two CRTs, two different av cables, and two different consoles. I'm open to suggestion.
You were right. After sitting down and switching stuff out, I learned that my original console is causing the visual artifact. I have a snes Jr and it works perfectly on that. So sad. Now I have to go down the rabbit hole to try to fix the old or RGB mod the jr.
@@yourbrokenoven Oh man, I am glad you figured it out. I was trying to think of helpful reply bit I was coming up short. Yeah time to hit up r/consolerepair
I didn't know MSU1 was a thing
honestly It's Impressive that It's running on real hardware
but It does not fit these games at all
The music seems weird at first definitely. I like to pretend that the SNES CD addon got released and these are CD enhanced versions of the games. In an alternate universe, I might have happened.
I guess It depends on the game
one use I really like Is people adding english commentary to BS Zelda or having the actual songs In Disney games, Star Wars games or WWF Raw
I do have WWF Raw with the actual wrestler themes. It's pretty awesome. I didn't know about the BS commentary stuff I'll have to check that out.
Yeah, most games needed an upgrade chip because Nintendo cheaped out on the system specs.
Fine with me, I guess. At the time it made the game seem more advanced :-D