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  • Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
  • back at it again with yet another unpopular opinions this video...building on from the last one, and discussing a wide range of pop girl related topics !!! from sabrina carpenter's position as taylor swift's 'daughter', normani's failure to launch, the underrated impact of britney spears, to lorde's ability to connect as a Main Pop Girl, the 'midscography' of selena gomez, and lana del rey's lazy performances...we cover it allllll today !!!
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  • @claire_ai7575
    @claire_ai7575 Месяц назад +511

    1:16 Lorde
    3:35 Lana del Rey
    8:43 Britney Spears
    12:16 Madison Beer
    12:50 Normani
    16:13 Avril Lavigne
    17:32 Beyoncé
    18:07 Rihanna
    22:13 Ariana Grande
    24:25 Sabrina Carpenter
    24:40 Ariana Grande
    25:57 Lana del Rey
    26:47 Miley Cyrus
    29:36 Meghan Trainor
    30:12 Sabrina Carpenter
    31:27 Lana del Rey
    32:05 Katy Perry
    33:25 Melanie Martinez
    34:06 Olivia Rodrigo
    34:41 Selena Gomez
    36:23 Avril Lavigne
    37:46 Sabrina Carpenter, Gracie Abrams, Tate McRae, Reneé Rapp vs. Olivia Rodrigo and Billie Eilish
    39:44 Laufey
    40:58 Avril Lavigne

    • @RuuBjAh1
      @RuuBjAh1 Месяц назад +13

      OMG thank you haha

    • @terry3733H
      @terry3733H Месяц назад +8

      thanks a bunch 🎉

    • @anoxia999
      @anoxia999 Месяц назад +3

      22:15 it’s true people cheat everyday and don’t get the backlash they deserve but the timeline was too clear to ignore (the way the other woman called her out and the consistent pattern). It’s not new that cheaters have a complex that follows a pattern and not every cheater gets lambasted for it. That said, Ariana can sing sing but I find her team’s compositions overall uninteresting. It’s not enough for people to overlook her moral shortcomings. People should break up properly before cheating or agree to be open relationship. I never understood why this is so hard for cheaters to do.

    • @anoxia999
      @anoxia999 Месяц назад +8

      Chappell Roan is definitely the new pop hopeful, her team has her image on lock. Daniel Nigro has a way with really teasing out nostalgic, highly familiar sophisti-pop as seen with his work with Olivia.

    • @ColJessuporderedthecodered
      @ColJessuporderedthecodered Месяц назад +3

      I'm not at all a fan of Olivia Rodrigo, i think her music is crass, whiny, superficial and painfully over dramatic and she goes on about revenge against boys too much. Even though I find the odd song of hers that I can enjoy the odd verse or chorus of I just don't like her music but she's a nice enough person but she's too gushy.

  • @Ispspsps-kl1lt
    @Ispspsps-kl1lt Месяц назад +290

    Part of Madison's issue is that she markets herself as an influencer instead of as a pop star. No other pop singer is out there filming videos with David Dobrik, and for that reason she isn't taken seriously.

    • @LD-tn6ff
      @LD-tn6ff Месяц назад +5

      Taylor Swift herself is/was arguably as much of a social media influencer as much as she is an actual artist. Completely disagree with you.

    • @HsioxIdixii
      @HsioxIdixii Месяц назад +49

      @@LD-tn6ff no she wasn’t and isn’t be so fr

    • @nyebaby31
      @nyebaby31 Месяц назад +57

      @@LD-tn6ffthis is an INSANE take 😭 when taylor debuted in 2006 social media influencing did not even exist.. taylor did pioneer using social media to connect with her young audience but that in no way was “influencing”. taylor’s music came first, her media presence came after. only the opposite can be said about madison

    • @LD-tn6ff
      @LD-tn6ff Месяц назад +1

      @@nyebaby31 in what part of my comment did I make sequencial order between social media influence and music a part of the argument? I didn’t…. Taylor more than any artist in history relies on perpetuating a parasocial relationship and connection with audiences. Something that over the duration of many years can largely be attributed to social media influence. What about that VERY plain and obvious fact triggers you so?

    • @AngelCaroline9
      @AngelCaroline9 Месяц назад +14

      that and I think she comes across as completely unrelatable to people, whether due to her perfect looks, personality, upbringing, etc.. imo, madison shouldn't be afraid to be messy (aesthetically, sonically, etc.) since her whole image is the opposite of that; otherwise, she'll remain boring

  • @JulesNavi100
    @JulesNavi100 Месяц назад +582

    My Sundays ain't complete without Zach uploading a new thoughtful weekly video

  • @AMoniqueOcampo
    @AMoniqueOcampo Месяц назад +915

    Dear Zach, I am so sorry that Taylor played "imgonnagetyouback x dress" as well as "Holy Ground" without you and that she mashed up "Holy Ground" with "Sweeter Than Fiction." I hope you're doing okay.

    • @Fea54
      @Fea54 Месяц назад

      Diva down

    • @lisareed1384
      @lisareed1384 Месяц назад +88

      ok same I saw this and i was like is the swiftologist ok???

    • @xkami0911
      @xkami0911 Месяц назад +6

      very that

    • @anoosrini1979
      @anoosrini1979 Месяц назад +33

      Same! My first thought was “Is Zach ok?”

    • @luukvanderveen7283
      @luukvanderveen7283 Месяц назад +33

      It was rare, i was there 🤭

  • @alexandrite61
    @alexandrite61 Месяц назад +119

    I feel like the issue with Madison Beer is she never managed to carve out her own artistic identity. There's nothing that feels authentically like "her", no creative niche where you can listen and go "ah yeah that reminds me of Madison Beer", nothing that draws you to her as an artist and intrigue you enough to stick around and see what she does next. Everything she's put out so far has been alright, but jump on a random Spotify playlist and you'll hear 10 songs exactly like hers. I know making pop music is all about leaning into current trends, but it's a tricky balance between that and setting yourself apart, and so far, it seems like she's only been making what she thinks people want to hear.

    • @clearestlittlekid
      @clearestlittlekid Месяц назад +3

      Yeah i agree she's kinda like a copycat of ari

    • @MarcDoesNotKnow
      @MarcDoesNotKnow Месяц назад +16

      it also doesn't help that although she serves face and is really beautiful, her high school diva megan fox-esque instagram influencer look kinda repels the gp-as if she's a tad too pretty to appreciate. she just seems really one dimensional even though her music is quite good, kinda like carly rae jepsen. her music, as personal a good chunk of it is, doesn't have that lasting effect to listeners unlike olivia and sabrina bc no one really knows her.

    • @NintendoGamer-rb7om
      @NintendoGamer-rb7om Месяц назад +1

      @@MarcDoesNotKnowI don’t think her looks really affect her status. People go viral all the time for the sole reason of being pretty (like that one girl on tiktok recently) It think it’s like zach said, she has no hits. Sure, she has a strong fan base but the majority of the gp can’t name a single song from her. All she needs to do is make a hit song and she’ll be launched into big fame

    • @beatrice3371
      @beatrice3371 14 дней назад

      Most songs on the radio sound the same. Same goes for most streamed artists. It all sounds the same. Madison has her own distinct sound. Also a lot of artists get praised for trying new genres but with Madison it's a problem?

    • @evameehan8614
      @evameehan8614 3 часа назад

      @@clearestlittlekid comepletely disgaree. The issue is madison beers fan base is pushing her to take on the 'pop girl' image when realistically her music is NOT your typical pop music. Life Support, her debut album, did have a few poppy tracks but was primarly very slow, deep, sad and atmospheric. Same with silence between songs her 2nd album, more alternative pop, some old school beetles inspired tracks, again very slow melodic immersive songs except from home to another which is clearly very tame impala inspired. I'm sure the pressure to become a main 'pop girl' is why shes trying to rebrand and establish herself differently with make you mine and 15 minutes which as someone who loves madisons old style is not clicking with me. Not every artists needs to follow the 'pop' formula and should just make whats true to them its quite sad to see

  • @yairethcastro71596
    @yairethcastro71596 Месяц назад +451

    “People who get Taylor’s blessing are not long for this world” lmfaooo so true 💀💀💀💀 I will never stop believing this. Taylor hypes up the artists she does not see as a threat. Olivia Rodrigo should feel honored 🫶🏼

    • @MarcDoesNotKnow
      @MarcDoesNotKnow Месяц назад +57

      i feel like she was testing the waters with olivia and conan gray bc they were given equal tayblessings but olivia went on to be what she is now while conan, well..

    • @Ispspsps-kl1lt
      @Ispspsps-kl1lt Месяц назад +20

      But Taylor did hype up Olivia?

    • @yairethcastro71596
      @yairethcastro71596 Месяц назад +71

      @@Ispspsps-kl1lt that ended pretty quickly lol

    • @imawakemymindisalive13
      @imawakemymindisalive13 Месяц назад +6

      @@MarcDoesNotKnowcállate conan is peak slay have you heard his new album?!!

    • @MarcDoesNotKnow
      @MarcDoesNotKnow Месяц назад +12

      @@imawakemymindisalive13 i heard like a fifth of it and I didn't like it. i like that it's different from kid krow and superache but there's a reason found heaven didn't pop off as well his first 2 albums did.

  • @inoahguy-q6c
    @inoahguy-q6c Месяц назад +175

    i totally agree with lana being a lazy performer. i think cherry is a fun song live and i loved that she opened her coachella set with without you but let’s mix it up some more! i would love to hear freak, california, lolita, mariners, terrence loves you, and bel air live and more from honeymoon, lust for life, and nfr in general.

    • @sabrina1646
      @sabrina1646 Месяц назад +5

      yes I totally agree! Having freak on coachella would be really good (it had mentions of California lol) and sonically it fits the vibes of Coachella in a way that you’re able to sway around and vibe lol. I hope it makes sense! Also honeymoon does have a lot of California vibes so deffo songs from there like Art Deco could be good!

    • @inoahguy-q6c
      @inoahguy-q6c Месяц назад +2

      @@sabrina1646 i agree! i would love to hear the transition from freak to art deco live!

    • @sabrina1646
      @sabrina1646 Месяц назад

      @@inoahguy-q6c ooh YESSS

  • @viliiliev9024
    @viliiliev9024 Месяц назад +142

    I truly can never get enough of the unpopular opinion videos because of your great cultural commentary and commical but also dead serious approach , your vocabulary is so diverse, every time I watch a video I learn a new word and get to know the way native speakers talk on their daily basis, not to say I resonate so much with your views on different topics!!! BRAVO👏

  • @tylerswiftanalyst
    @tylerswiftanalyst Месяц назад +77

    COMPLETELY agree with the Taylor and Olivia take. Olivia is absolutely the closest thing to a Taylor Swift in the new generation. Her curation of both SOUR and GUTS really remind me of how Taylor would put the effort and passion into projects like Fearless, Speak Now, Red in her earlier days of her career, like a way to establish an entire connected body of work with her catalog. But, insane fans would never admit that or really even be able to see it.

    • @sagelabyrinth8780
      @sagelabyrinth8780 Месяц назад +9

      True. Lacy sounds just like something taylor swift would do

    • @stayrigo
      @stayrigo Месяц назад +6

      ​@sagelabyrinth8780 that's basically Clara bow

    • @555tori
      @555tori Месяц назад +4

      The only difference being Olivia is already a better lyricist than Taylor

    • @Ram-qt3jq
      @Ram-qt3jq Месяц назад +1

      ​@@555torinah olivia lyrics are lack of depth

    • @neilwritesstuff
      @neilwritesstuff 27 дней назад

      @@555toriLMAOOOO NOPE

  • @amandasoul
    @amandasoul Месяц назад +125

    i saw Lana 12 years ago, and i remember it was so bad live, she apologized and said how nervous she was. she’s grown SO much but she is a story teller and a poet but performer she is not.
    edit: OMG the meghan trainer part 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

    • @raquiolinha2507
      @raquiolinha2507 Месяц назад +5

      I was honestly surprised, since Meghan has been my favorite singer since like forever, and when I was saw the timestamp, I was like "omg what is he gonna say", and then I was like "well true, but I'll still be vibing"

  • @elidagjika8741
    @elidagjika8741 Месяц назад +104

    Blackout should absolutely hold the title of The Bible Of Pop just because of the legacy & influence it built.

    • @LD-tn6ff
      @LD-tn6ff Месяц назад +4

      I mean...it's "good" at best. Theres plenty of FAR better pop albums. I feel like you're just trying to regurgitate a claim made in the video without actually having a strong foundation for pop music reference.

    • @elidagjika8741
      @elidagjika8741 Месяц назад +16

      @LD-tn6ff calling Blackout good at best speaks a lot about your taste.First of all.Are there better albums? Absolutely.It's not even my favourite album of Britney.Second of all,my statement was that it should be considered a bible of pop based on the influence by itself.Blackout came out in 2007,2005 & 2006 were knowingly a big flop period for music.The way Britney manouvers her unique tone along with the wild and rough futuristic beats of the tracks, shows the proffesionalism that the album-making held within itself.The dark and edgy sound of it all was revolutionary of it's time, especially coming from someone like her,considering Britney's past America's Sweetheart reputation,and the juicy,watery,strong beats were a big contrast between the boring generic dry instrumentals that were considered mainstream music of the time.The visuals and the concept of the album by themselves caused a phenomenal awakening within pop girls at the time, making each of them wanting to showcase the darker and raspier side of it all,wich with what we've seen,are just considered copycats today, lacking the originality that Britney managed to showcase through such a clichè thematic of rebellion.Not to mention how much the sounds of 2010s pop are a resemblence of the record.We are even able to find droplets of the records influence in every genre of pop since that time.Taylor's Reputation, Ariana's Dangerous Woman, Gaga's Born This Way, Lana's Ultraviolence even, ecc.

    • @crystalkadletc1944
      @crystalkadletc1944 Месяц назад +2

      Blackout was Britney’s most creative album. She didn’t give a fuck what her label thought. I feel like her whole career has been carved out for her and she was just told what to do. Blackout was a different animal. I personally find Britney to be her best album. But Blackout is a close 2nd for me.

    • @elidagjika8741
      @elidagjika8741 Месяц назад +1

      @crystalkadletc the 'Britney' [album] stans have my heart

  • @cbxbe8427
    @cbxbe8427 Месяц назад +87

    The thing with Gracie is that she has a very supportive fanbase ever since she dropped her first ep 'Minor'
    She will obviously not be as big as the current main pop girls but she will have sold out shows and stable streams when it comes to her music which is smth some b or c pop girls won't ever have

    • @richmaxmchalliwchester1984
      @richmaxmchalliwchester1984 Месяц назад +43

      The thing with Gracie is she understands her lane, her audience and her place in the industry and because of that she will always get stable streams and sold out tours. A thing a lot of pop girls could learn from Gracie is to understand where is their place in the music industry and stop trying to be something they´re not.

    • @Mel-qs8wx
      @Mel-qs8wx Месяц назад +25

      I just wish she take a poetry class bc her lyrics are not interesting and fall flat

    • @Herberth889
      @Herberth889 Месяц назад +3

      Gracie Abrams is this you?

    • @sintheta126
      @sintheta126 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@Mel-qs8wxher lyrics do fall flat... Particularly in her latest album. But when she sings, she pours out all of her emotions which at the end make her songs what they are. ❤

    • @belle14915
      @belle14915 17 дней назад

      I fear after the tayhype wears off she’s gonna lose some fans… she’s still gonna be successful but not as much as she is rn

  • @emilykate0835
    @emilykate0835 Месяц назад +45

    here we go again :')
    1:16 lorde
    3:34 lana del rey
    8:42 britney spears
    12:16 madison beer
    12:50 normani
    16:13 avril lavigne
    17:31 beyonce
    18:07 rihanna
    22:13 ariana grande
    24:25 sabrina carpenter
    24:38 more ariana grande
    25:56 more lana del rey
    26:47 miley cyrus
    29:36 meghan trainor
    30:11 more sabrina carpenter
    31:27 even more lana del rey
    32:04 katy perry
    33:24 melanie martinez
    34:05 olivia rodrigo
    34:40 selena gomez
    36:23 more avril lavigne
    37:45 gen z pop girls
    38:21 gracie abrams
    39:44 laufey
    40:57 even more avril lavigne

  • @Itspurehoney54
    @Itspurehoney54 Месяц назад +30

    Rihanna's music has aged beautifully like her songs sound new even though they're 10 years old already. Her catalogue is full of bangers and ANTI as an album was truly an amazing way to close that crazy album run that she was on. It is the most true to Rihanna album she's put out

  • @eejit-wj9xo
    @eejit-wj9xo Месяц назад +127

    Swiftologist has Aussies up till midnight 😅🫶

  • @summerchild_
    @summerchild_ Месяц назад +124

    I don't think Lorde could be as big as Taylor BUT she could have been a way bigger artist. No one cared about Solar Power.

    • @mohamadfirdausbinmat2577
      @mohamadfirdausbinmat2577 Месяц назад +27

      I think Dua Lipa suffers from the same effect too but not as tragic. I don't think Solar Power is a bad album. It's really that Melodrama is such a perfect pop album that puts ultimate quality at the forefront that anything lesser than an A+ effort would end up becoming a major dissapointment which it kinda did but not too much. Without comparison, Solar Power is a good indie pop album. With comparison, it really pales in quality & sonic innovation that her first two albums brought forth. I hope that L4 will not be something similar to Solar Power & instead something new that's gonna break grounds like she did with Melodrama.

    • @anoxia999
      @anoxia999 Месяц назад +1

      Stoned at the nail salon was trying too hard and so was that cover photo

    • @summerchild_
      @summerchild_ Месяц назад +2

      @anoxia999 Pure Heroine and Melodrama are in my top 10 most played records of all time but I gave Solar Power's cover one glance and decided I wasn't interested. Haven't heard the entire record to this day.

    • @ColJessuporderedthecodered
      @ColJessuporderedthecodered Месяц назад

      ​​​@@summerchild_Tennis Court is my favourite song on Pure Heroine. It's damn cool. Green Light is my favourite on Melodrama. 👌

    • @ColJessuporderedthecodered
      @ColJessuporderedthecodered Месяц назад +1

      I did not enjoy the songs of Solar Power that I have heard but I appreciate the different sound and uniqueness of the album.

  • @summerchild_
    @summerchild_ Месяц назад +18

    What Melanie is doing makes perfect sense to me but I guess the girlies who get it get it

  • @olivialayne06
    @olivialayne06 Месяц назад +26

    My unpopular opinion is that people call Beyoncé overrated so much to the point where she’s kind of underrated in certain aspects. I feel like some people don’t actively engage with her music/discography in a meaningful way or even view her music as anything worth dissecting. They hear it, write it off and move on. This is evidence by the fact that people keep yelling that she’s not a “real country” artist. But that’s the point. She clearly states on Cowboy Carter that has no desire to be boxed into the confines of one specific genre and the expectations people have of that sound. She’s experimenting and having fun. It’s ok if the music just isn’t for you, but I think some people purposely miss the point and they don’t actually pay attention to anything she says or sings about.

    • @LD-tn6ff
      @LD-tn6ff Месяц назад +1

      This is absurd. So many people write off Beyonce because EVERYONE had to hear about and experience Cowboy Carter for example, whether they were fans who wanted to, or not. The over-exposure is the very reason for the backlash. under-rated artists are the ones who produce S-tier albums without the majority of the population ever even knowing about it, let alone the public consuming it and making a determination of its worth.

  • @Kevin-rg3yc
    @Kevin-rg3yc Месяц назад +99

    Your last point is very true, tbh SZA, Megan thee stallion and Tyla are female artists who should be more in the conversations with Billie and Olivia, musically, and culturally speaking, they are doing exactly what these stans think Sabrina, and Gracie Abrahams are doing but racism and music genre biases is why they won’t get credit. I mean just look at what SZA accomplished with SOS was and is insane, the way Megan have been able to achieve such a global impact and fan base while being a more niche/regional-based hip hop artist is impressive, and while Tyla isn’t breaking records instantly the success she achieved with water and how she’s been able to cultivate/capitalize off of it is exactly what Sabrina been doing, but I feel Tyla is doing it more interestingly well

    • @lilithtozier7467
      @lilithtozier7467 Месяц назад +9

      I completely agree and maybe it’s because I was born in Houston (still live very close to Houston now) but I love Megan and I have a thought about her and I wanna know what you would think about this: I’m primarily a fan of rock/metal/alt music and I LOVED her remix of cobra with spiritbox especially since I am a fan of both Megan and spiritbox and I think it could be super interesting at the very least and maybe even quite successful if Megan were to go in the rap rock or even rap metal route. But again probably just saying that as a Megan fan and avid rock lover.

    • @caoyuann
      @caoyuann Месяц назад +22

      Sabrina Carpenter and Gracie Abrams are not in the same realm.
      Gracie's music is derivative and uninteresting, especially on TSOU. It sounds like a generic copy of six other artists who have done it better. Yet alone the fact no one's heard of her.
      Sabrina had a one-two punch with Espresso and Please³. Espresso was an immediate commercial success and was #1 on many international charts. Please³ followed up with this, and on many charts it was battling it out with Espresso to see which would go #1.
      Close To You broke top 10 in Sweden 💀
      I'm not trying to say that commercial success translates to talent. Sexyy Red is successful. However, success shows if people are interested in what you've created.
      Sabrina has songs that are interesting. Espresso sparked multiple trends from its one song, Feather was simply fun, Nonsense had the intros she does, and Please³ sparked another trend with the "when I just did my makeup so nice" line.
      Gracie, on the other hand, is uninteresting. Her music sounds like grey wallpaper. The problem is there's nothing particularly "Gracie" about Gracie, while there's something very "Sabrina" about Sabrina. Tongue-and-cheek, fun, pop bangers, with easily quotable lines like:
      "I'm working late cause I'm a singer"
      "My give a fucks are on vacation"
      "That's that me Espresso"
      "I'm so sorry for your loss"
      "I beg you, don't embarrass me, motherfucker"
      That sort of thing.
      Sabrina definitely has reached Gracie's lows, but I'm not sure if Gracie has reached Sabrina's bests

    • @Kevin-rg3yc
      @Kevin-rg3yc Месяц назад +2

      @@caoyuanngreat breakdown I agree

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  Месяц назад +40

      I didnt even mention them bc sza is like klasfksdlnfkdl sooooo out of their league LMAO I don't consider her as part of the gen z pop star that I was talking about specifically here. sza has been making music much longer than either olivia or billie. meg is kind of in her own line, I wouldn't really call her a pop girl - and I also don't think her sound has meaningfully shifted anything or created anything new. she's extremely charismatic but not innovative IMO, like rihanna. tyla is def one to watch but again, too soon to tell

    • @weezedawg
      @weezedawg Месяц назад +12

      I'm highly suspecting a lot of you will eat your words when Sabrina's album is released but for now, her tour also sold out and she is playing the same venues as Olivia, Billie, SZA and Meg

  • @britthunt5707
    @britthunt5707 Месяц назад +45

    OMG Finally someone has the nerve to say it, Lana is a lousy performer! I absolutely LOVE Lana, so I am not throwing shade, but I had been thinking perhaps there is something wrong with my perception, or my hearing, and my eyes because not only does she sound shaky, uncomfortable, and awkward, but she looks it. Yet, nobody every mentions it. I guess that is real love and they don't want to hurt Lana's feelings and that is a beautiful thing in it's self, but it makes some of us question our perspective. I think she has a beautiful voice, so it isn't like she doesn't have the capacity to sing well, she actually looks like she is very nervous most of the time, or perhaps she is just high. I am actually glad that people do not call her out for it now that I think about it, that would make her even more nervous, but she does nail it every now and then.

    • @MarcDoesNotKnow
      @MarcDoesNotKnow Месяц назад

      it's the vape i fear

    • @Mar1293
      @Mar1293 Месяц назад

      Her voice is awful. Let’s just admit it. I would NEVER PAY to see her.

    • @masterminded88
      @masterminded88 Месяц назад +4

      + the worst part imo (which was also mentioned by Zach) is her being late to her own shows, which is kinda disrespectful. I would be so pissed if I paid to see someone and they arrive 30 minutes late basically for no reason. I love Lana but sometimes she just makes it so hard for me to stan her lol

    • @Mar1293
      @Mar1293 Месяц назад +1

      @@britthunt5707 I would NEVER go see her in concert. Colossal waste of money. I’ll stay home and stream her albums.

  • @megandelynn6114
    @megandelynn6114 Месяц назад +36

    OMG!😂😂😂 "Your grandmother's never heard Greedy by Tate McRae" ended me!

  • @taylorswiftie4051
    @taylorswiftie4051 Месяц назад +25

    I couldn't agree more with Lana being a lazy performer. She devoured at the beginning of her Coachella set and could so easily have kept that energy for the whole show.

  • @OliviaKanamoto
    @OliviaKanamoto Месяц назад +17

    Tate, Sabrina, Gracie and Renee is not even CLOSE to Bille and Olivia’s success. Olivia having the most streamed female album EVER on Spotify with only 11 songs, being her debut album that she put out WHEN SHE WAS 17. And Bille having the 4th most streamed female album with only 14 song also being her debut album that she put out when she was 17. AND BOTH OFF THEM ARE STILL RELEVANT AND SUCCESSFUL. You can’t see any of Tate, Sabrina, Gracie or Renee doing songs for movies like James Bond, Barbie or Hunger Games or even name more than 2 songs from them. Maybe they are going there but it’s wrong too categorise Olivia and Bille with them when they are not even close to their talent and success

    • @sintheta126
      @sintheta126 Месяц назад +4

      It's also about the luck. Even if they have the most steamed albums, let's not act as if the other artists are valueless. Tate McRae's latest album is a masterpiece... and she has had several hits. It's also about marketing... How olivia created all that Joshua and Sabrina drama etc.

    • @epiphanyedits
      @epiphanyedits Месяц назад +2

      i could name 3 sabrina carpenter hits that non-fans would know but pop off

  • @jakob9585
    @jakob9585 Месяц назад +89

    There's this very early Rihanna interview where she talked about how she wants to live a life where she doesn't need to tour anymore. Well unfortunately for us, she got that life.

  • @elliesgroupie
    @elliesgroupie Месяц назад +76

    swiftologist always uploads just as i’m about to sleep and suddenly i’m not sleeping!!!!

  • @henrywayne5724
    @henrywayne5724 Месяц назад +143

    My personal video requests:
    1. Melodrama- Lorde
    2. Dua Lipa- Radical Floptimism
    3. Chappell Roan

    • @NateSullivan813
      @NateSullivan813 Месяц назад +8

      i dont think radical optimism was a flop, go off though

    • @Laef_dream
      @Laef_dream Месяц назад +28

      @@NateSullivan813Maybe not a flop, but surely not really interesting. But I guess that’s on Future Nostalgia for setting the standard too high

    • @NateSullivan813
      @NateSullivan813 Месяц назад +6

      @@Laef_dream i think a LOT of albums will be flops compared to future nostalgia

    • @Laef_dream
      @Laef_dream Месяц назад +2

      @@NateSullivan813 Can’t really argue with the truth

    • @MH107-
      @MH107- Месяц назад +12

      Chappell Roan yesss

  • @williamehlers5158
    @williamehlers5158 Месяц назад +8

    You know what I like about Selena Gomez? It’s that she would agree that she’s mediocre. She knows she can’t sing. But some of her songs really are bops.

  • @elidagjika8741
    @elidagjika8741 Месяц назад +4

    I luv how y'all Olivia stans (I am on too but still) just choose to ignore the hate train Sabrina went through in 2021 for simply dating a guy and then say 'Because I Liked A Boy' is forced and cringy...

  • @aobakwekeatlhomile8226
    @aobakwekeatlhomile8226 Месяц назад +173

    I wish Cowboy Carter had more replay value. It's more of a moment than something to play everyday

    • @Sza4L
      @Sza4L Месяц назад +31

      i beg to differ because i listen to that album religiously 😭

    • @flickeringlights7119
      @flickeringlights7119 Месяц назад +24

      @@Sza4Lsame I play Bodyguard and Levi Jeans almost daily.

    • @Sza4L
      @Sza4L Месяц назад

      @@flickeringlights7119 just for fun is my personal favourite

    • @emmalouge123
      @emmalouge123 Месяц назад +29

      I sadly agree. I love Beyonce but I hate her Jay-Z worship tracks 😭 I can't relate, girl. I cannot relate.

    • @anoxia999
      @anoxia999 Месяц назад +9

      Bodyguard gives me 90s Sheryl Crow radio hit

  • @krk.1999
    @krk.1999 Месяц назад +37

    I saw Lana at the Ultraviolence tour as a teen, and I have such good memories of it. I do remember her being so vastly differently than any performer I had ever seen, but it so worked. It fit that album. It doesn’t fit festivals for the general masses even if a lot of the crowd are hard core fans and don’t care that much 😭

  • @juliasanders9155
    @juliasanders9155 Месяц назад +130

    As a Lana stan of 12 years, I believe she is an artist with a stadium-sized audience whose music is not made for stadiums. Therefore, she relies on many of her backup dancers, sets, and guests to help her move on the stage. It used to not be this way, but she said she is much more comfortable up there when there are other people who have her back. In my ideal world, a Lana show would simply be her, Blake, and Byron. I'd like to see her do less bombastic performances, doing songs that really showcase her vocals, with a smaller audience.
    edit: Zach, you say lazy performer, and I think what makes her seem lazy is the contradiction of the backup dancers who are doing THE MOST and it makes it seem like she's just standing there singing. That's why I would really appreciate a more stripped-down set with less movement on the stage, because that's not really what her music is about.
    I do agree with you about the setlist. More Norman. Less BTD. Why she hasn't performed Mariners or Terrence Loves You or even Lust For Life is beyond me. It could be, like you said, that she's a contrarian. But I do wish she would care a little more about that.

    • @LD-tn6ff
      @LD-tn6ff Месяц назад +5

      Wrong - I could list a hundred great live performances from pop girls who heavily rely on backup dancers to make it a more lively/theatrical performance because they are focused on singing instead of dancing. You plainly and simply don't want to admit as a Lana Stan that shes a terrible/lazy live performer.

    • @juliasanders9155
      @juliasanders9155 Месяц назад +10

      @@LD-tn6ff You just said other pop artists use dancers to enhance the performance. I am arguing the opposite. I am saying the theatrics are not enhancing, but distracting.

    • @Chris-g9i
      @Chris-g9i Месяц назад +4

      I agree. Nobody calls Adele a lazy performer, when she is just standing there, with her microphone.

    • @poindexterorozco
      @poindexterorozco Месяц назад +2

      I've seen her twice now (Kansas City 2019, Arkansas 2023), and I definitely preferred the larger space with more going on on-stage. I was really disappointed with her NFR show, it was really, really short, included multiple covers, was slow at points, and it felt like her heart wasn't in it. The Tunnel tour felt more like a moment (even though the setlist was basically the same - but longer thankfully - as years prior)

  • @chunli6197
    @chunli6197 Месяц назад +29

    these unpopular opinions be like: taylor swift is a flop and the worst person ever what do you think SWIFTologist

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  Месяц назад +10

      LMAOO

    • @krk.1999
      @krk.1999 Месяц назад

      My exact thoughts were lmaooo and what do you know ^^^^

  • @kate.2769
    @kate.2769 Месяц назад +18

    I've been a Britney stan since I was 9 and I always tense up when anybody that I don't know to be an out stan themselves starts speaking on her... but you said all the right things and it made me extremely emotional. Thank you for being so thoughtful. ❤

  • @vmor13
    @vmor13 Месяц назад +10

    I love Melanie Martinez down but I understand the opinion! Her music isn’t for everyone but it is my vibe

  • @elizabethkurth2069
    @elizabethkurth2069 Месяц назад +21

    29:51 i am deeply offended by this comment. as a grocery store cashier, i resent the idea of being forced to listen to meghan trainor.

    • @ColJessuporderedthecodered
      @ColJessuporderedthecodered Месяц назад +4

      😂😂😂😂 I hate her music.

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  Месяц назад +5

      dlfkslfnsldknfkdsf

    • @ColJessuporderedthecodered
      @ColJessuporderedthecodered Месяц назад +2

      @@theswiftologist Because you know I'm all about that bass
      'Bout that bass, no treble
      I'm all about that bass, 'bout that bass, no treble
      I'm all about that bass, 'bout that bass, no treble
      I'm all about that bass, 'bout that bass (Bass, bass, bass, bass)🎶🎶🎶🎶🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @raquiolinha2507
      @raquiolinha2507 Месяц назад +1

      Well, if it was of your own accord, then I wouldn't mind, but being forced to is just sad. And I'm saying this as a Meghan fan. So yeah, sorry for that

    • @elizabethkurth2069
      @elizabethkurth2069 Месяц назад

      @@raquiolinha2507 yeah unfortunately we cannot choose the music at my store, however, it’s pretty varied and often i like it so i’m all good

  • @jenjenbeingbored
    @jenjenbeingbored Месяц назад +33

    Thing with Normani is if she had followed up after motivation and capitalized on its success, even if it’s not the kind of music she wanted to be making, then she could have released an album afterwards that is what she wants to do artistically and have a solid fanbase who would stream it and it would be more successful, but because she waited so long, even people who were interested in her back when motivation came out have no reason to ride for her

  • @kopper7509
    @kopper7509 Месяц назад +14

    Olivia is Taylor’s daughter who she refuses to acknowledge. 😂

    • @MH107-
      @MH107- Месяц назад

      Facts though

  • @PoisonedApathy
    @PoisonedApathy Месяц назад +21

    As a fellow Lana stan I so agree with you on this one. I went to see her to Primavera Sound last june and she also was 20 min late for her show... It's honestly very frustrating because I got to see her a year after SNL at a small-ish club in Madrid and she was incredible in that show - beautiful vocals, cool as hell, she reminded me of Nancy Sinatra. It's such a shame she has been able o cared enough to keep up with the good work.

  • @vitancherep8244
    @vitancherep8244 Месяц назад +151

    “Melanie is perfectly rated” sent me into orbit

  • @Emmy-rw8yl
    @Emmy-rw8yl Месяц назад +27

    A moment of silence for the fact that Taylor performed imgonnagetyouback/dress without Zack being there and then proceeded to perform Holy ground the following day. Hope ur ok 😭

  • @boykot1229
    @boykot1229 Месяц назад +19

    Love your commentary Zach, but no Melanie Martinez slander will be tolerated!

    • @elidagjika8741
      @elidagjika8741 Месяц назад +1

      cry about it

    • @annieslegend
      @annieslegend 25 дней назад

      @@elidagjika8741well yes!

    • @jxy_cee
      @jxy_cee 18 дней назад

      @@annieslegend well no!

    • @annieslegend
      @annieslegend 18 дней назад

      @@jxy_cee it’s a joke! Hope this helps

  • @izzyizzyizzyizzyizzyizzyizzy
    @izzyizzyizzyizzyizzyizzyizzy Месяц назад +39

    SO GRATEFUL YOU GAVE US PART 2 I LOVE LISTENING TO YOUR OPINIONS 🙏🙏

  • @renatafaustina
    @renatafaustina Месяц назад +66

    This is exactly what my Sunday cleaning routine needed

  • @VEGAS-NERVE
    @VEGAS-NERVE Месяц назад +10

    "There’s a Stan community for every flop" 💀

  • @leecameron8119
    @leecameron8119 Месяц назад +37

    Respectfully,I think Sabrina is more than those feel good hits,and should not just be limited to that type of music just because the general public only know her for those hits.
    Ballads like “emails I can’t send”, “opposite” or “things I wish you said” (just to name a few) prove she has more to her.
    So let’s not discredit her depth in the name of esspresso,feather,nonsense etc.

    • @chikahoshi
      @chikahoshi Месяц назад +2

      He actually talked about this in the last unpopular pop girl opinions.

    • @leecameron8119
      @leecameron8119 Месяц назад +4

      @@chikahoshi yeah I know,also in the comments about Sabrina there😭

    • @sirensvibes222
      @sirensvibes222 Месяц назад +20

      This! They are reducing her to her most popular songs rn and it’s like saying taylor couldn’t to great songs back then or have a great album because she put out 22 or shake it off, or ME! It’s a fun bop to get people to listen to the album it ain’t that hard to get honestly

    • @fitzgeraldgatsby4885
      @fitzgeraldgatsby4885 Месяц назад +4

      There is a reason why people dont know whatev songs youve named, and a readin why she only known NOW for Say so rehashes…

    • @leecameron8119
      @leecameron8119 Месяц назад +6

      @@fitzgeraldgatsby4885not 100% sure what you are trying to say in the last part but either way it still defeats the point I’m trying to relay,just because people don’t reach deeper into her discography doesn’t mean she doesn’t have more to offer than what’s “hot” right now.

  • @annaphallactic
    @annaphallactic Месяц назад +14

    The comment about Anti not being good is weird to me. The raw, unfinished sound was what made that album riveting as someone who didn't listen to much pop music at the time it dropped.

    • @annaphallactic
      @annaphallactic Месяц назад +2

      Also AMEN RE: Ariana's cheating scandal and male artists not getting nearly the same degree of pushback for worse shit. I'm so sick of the neo puritanism that's bubbled up in terminally online discourse.

    • @weezedawg
      @weezedawg Месяц назад +1

      @@annaphallactic Rihanna haters are just upset Anti is still critically and commercially better received than their faves

  • @eeropussinen613
    @eeropussinen613 Месяц назад +114

    One thing to note, if ME! and Yes and? were released at the same time, ME! would've gone #1. Old Town Road completely dominated in 2019 and was the sole reason Taylor didnt get those two #1 hits. Now that doesn't excuse the quality of the songs but that's a whole different conversation.

    • @nohaswillow13
      @nohaswillow13 Месяц назад +6

      underrated comment fr, couldn't agree more

    • @Aleee89
      @Aleee89 Месяц назад +17

      it's also much easier to get a Hot 100 #1 nowadays so there is no doubt Me! would have gone #1

    • @LD-tn6ff
      @LD-tn6ff Месяц назад +15

      ME! is a terrible song though...

    • @eeropussinen613
      @eeropussinen613 Месяц назад +8

      @@LD-tn6ff Never said it wasn't

    • @MissteriousMisstress
      @MissteriousMisstress Месяц назад +1

      ​@eeropussinen613 you did say it would get #1.. now I'm confused- please elaborate

  • @upper_class_owl1787
    @upper_class_owl1787 Месяц назад +7

    Whenever Rihanna comes on at the club, I run to the dance floor. Her songs always hit hard every single time in that situation.

  • @cattd00
    @cattd00 Месяц назад +77

    OH MY GOD I CANT BELIEVE WE GOT A PART 222222

    • @ruizdy
      @ruizdy Месяц назад +3

      And we will need a part 3 for sure!

    • @cattd00
      @cattd00 Месяц назад +1

      @@ruizdy yes we do

  • @EoinWalsh
    @EoinWalsh Месяц назад +25

    ZACHARY, YOU ARE FEEDING US

  • @cbxbe8427
    @cbxbe8427 Месяц назад +82

    We need the Chappell roan video

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  Месяц назад +58

      its in the works!!

    • @cbxbe8427
      @cbxbe8427 Месяц назад +4

      @@theswiftologist thank you for your service 🫶🏻😚

    • @caputcoleman
      @caputcoleman Месяц назад +4

      @@theswiftologistwell yes

    • @therankingguru6960
      @therankingguru6960 Месяц назад +2

      Thank you!! Im going to wait for it im so excited!!!​@@theswiftologist

  • @Lauverrrrrr
    @Lauverrrrrr Месяц назад +10

    I’ve never heard anyone sum up my opinion on pop girls (mainly Melanie Martinez and Gracie Abram’s) better than this man does he’s so insanely intelligent and informed on culture. You ate this king.

  • @brookelouise1561
    @brookelouise1561 Месяц назад +25

    Always a good day when swiftologist uploads! ❤

  • @jdhs12394
    @jdhs12394 Месяц назад +33

    No-days-off-ologist again! 👏🏻

  • @hibiismeal300
    @hibiismeal300 Месяц назад +53

    You are so right about Sabrina & Gracie. Even if the swifts try to make them Taylors daughters. They ultimately lack Taylors talent ( for the reasons you say)

    • @jaimerendonzenteno
      @jaimerendonzenteno Месяц назад +8

      fr

    • @muskaan3711
      @muskaan3711 Месяц назад +1

      Well tbh no one has Taylor's talent. Before some say olivia, i like her music, but no one can be Taylor. So we should stop comparing i guess!?

    • @sirensvibes222
      @sirensvibes222 Месяц назад +1

      they are called like that because they grew up being swifties and started they careers looking up to her as an idol and have been lucky enough to be acknowledged by her, not because they are they’re lyricist daughters, even tho they can write excelent serious songs apart from the most commercial ones they are called like that because she is like a motherly figure to them career wise, she looks after them and gives them advice

    • @jaimerendonzenteno
      @jaimerendonzenteno Месяц назад

      @@sirensvibes222 ok

    • @leyehwilliams617
      @leyehwilliams617 Месяц назад +3

      Love Taylor to death but sabrina is singing circles around her performing better than her and can do different genres of music unlike taylor and the other pop girls she writes her most of her music she’s talented

  • @alexeyborodavkin3809
    @alexeyborodavkin3809 Месяц назад +17

    I am a huge Lana stan but when I say I dont enjoy her performances other stans attack me and praise her coachella show and I feel like being gaslighted 🙃

    • @VEGAS-NERVE
      @VEGAS-NERVE Месяц назад +1

      I agree. I’m a huge Lana Stan but wouldn’t pay that much again to see her live. It’s just not worth the half-assed performance

  • @jvaleriarojas5167
    @jvaleriarojas5167 Месяц назад +14

    Lady Gaga and Katy Perry from 2009-2014 will not return and they must accept it, Harry Styles is not the most talented former member of One Direction, Olivia will always be related to Taylor even if she doesn't talk about her

    • @That_BrownGirl
      @That_BrownGirl Месяц назад +7

      Olivia is basically the Aristotle to Taylor's Plato. She is a scholar of Taylor Swift school of music.... She has been a swifty, has consumed and soaked in Taylor's music all her life as it spoke to her. First time I heard Driver's licence I was like OHHHH this is soo Taylor Swift but it's so Olivia at the same time. I love these two artists the most.

    • @jvaleriarojas5167
      @jvaleriarojas5167 Месяц назад +8

      @@That_BrownGirl In my opinion Olivia is the fusion of Taylor and Avril, she has things from both and no matter how similar she is to Taylor I can't help but see them and think they are so similar but at the same time so different the difference is in the moment Avril enters into this , Taylor is Taylor and Olivia is Olivia but you will have people who say they are the same

    • @diya-hn2wy
      @diya-hn2wy Месяц назад +1

      harry may not be the most talented member (vocally maybe zayn) but he’s definitely the most famous for a reason

    • @That_BrownGirl
      @That_BrownGirl Месяц назад

      @@jvaleriarojas5167 PERIOD

  • @saradeandres2131
    @saradeandres2131 Месяц назад +19

    Hiiii! No taylor on the thumbnail: you are so well informed on multiple celebrities

  • @sabrinarosado613
    @sabrinarosado613 Месяц назад +9

    im so glad you brought up janet jackson’s influence on britney spears because i feel like not a lot of people mention or recognize it

  • @makaelabrewer4689
    @makaelabrewer4689 Месяц назад +6

    Britney Spears was, Is, and forever will be THE moment. She walked so every other pop girly could run. She laid the pop girl world brick by brick & that is her legacy ❤

  • @andrewt35
    @andrewt35 Месяц назад +26

    LOL you are so right about ‘Taylor’s Blessing’. . . It almost seems as though getting a ‘Taylor’s Blessing’ a la Rachel Platten, Kelsea Ballerini, Camila Cabello is really just a jobs program for mid-artists that are friendly to her. That being said, from Taylor’s end it is so smart.

    • @aren3461
      @aren3461 Месяц назад +8

      Taylor would post Camila cabello a lot before she got big , once Camila got her first huge hit havanah Taylor ignored her in social media. Camila would still talk about Taylor nicely and it’s been crickets from Taylor

  • @apenaro0813
    @apenaro0813 Месяц назад +5

    I agree that Sabrina should stick to the campy sexy vapid kind of vibe but Sabrina is coming for that main pop girl title, especially after this album roll out and the already upcoming sold out tour.

  • @drmnsss
    @drmnsss Месяц назад +19

    Girllll, we’re waiting for your Chappell Roan timeline ❤ please rectify that. Love uuuu

  • @-SnappyXD-
    @-SnappyXD- Месяц назад +13

    I highly disagree about the Melanie Martinez comment.
    She is well rated, and if people don’t get it it’s okay. But she makes beautiful music about tragic topics, and there is a lot to get. I don’t like Taylor’s music, but I think she is an amazing artist. So is Melanie, she puts a lot into her work, and it’s well deserved. I would appreciate if you looked more into her music tho!

  • @zellcookie3302
    @zellcookie3302 Месяц назад +7

    Why is an alt artist in the pop girls category, you had one job

  • @lumina_grace
    @lumina_grace Месяц назад +6

    thank you for having good opinions that i don’t always agree with but can respect. you are such a balanced break from the dramatics of stan culture

  • @avaschaefer6656
    @avaschaefer6656 Месяц назад +5

    I’ve been the biggest Sabrina fan since Eyes Wide Open. I had VIP tickets and met her during EVOLution DeTour. I used to be made fun of for liking “some cringey Disney singer” and it made me really uncomfortable sharing my music tastes with people. Seeing Sabrina take off like this is kinda a fun he he I told you so moment. That said, I also totally see what you mean. I think Exhale was the first time I was like oh, this song has a message. She’s going for something deeper here. … now give me a message in a more creative way. That said, I’m so proud of how far she’s come and I’m seated to see where she goes from here. I’m exited to watcher her EVOLution if you will.

  • @moniquedlima2884
    @moniquedlima2884 Месяц назад +10

    Hmmm…I disagree with the whole “people who get Taylor’s blessing aren’t longer for this world as pop stars” because at the end of the day Sabrina does have a number one song (please please please) and is selling out arenas. I’d say she does have some cultural impact especially with having 2 of the most successful pop songs rn.

    • @ColJessuporderedthecodered
      @ColJessuporderedthecodered Месяц назад +2

      Sabrina's been all over my RUclips 😣I can't get rid of her, I don't like her music but there's no doubt she's popular right now.

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  Месяц назад +11

      for now ... :) tbd on longevity!

    • @ColJessuporderedthecodered
      @ColJessuporderedthecodered Месяц назад +3

      @@theswiftologist She'll always have a loyal fan base I think but she won't become a top-tier pop star!

    • @ColJessuporderedthecodered
      @ColJessuporderedthecodered Месяц назад +1

      Wow, this channel's comments section is the Bermuda triangle for my comments, they seem to disappear after I post them here. 🙃 Never mind.🙂💁

  • @iwanttoplaywithspringsteen9188
    @iwanttoplaywithspringsteen9188 Месяц назад +10

    Get the impression is Lana del Rey is an artist as opposed to an entertainer. Art and entertainment are often oceans apart . Some of the most talented singer songwriters have not been interested in the performing showy side of the business.. I get that particularly if you are an introspective writer

    • @LD-tn6ff
      @LD-tn6ff Месяц назад

      but she chooses not to be just a songwriter. She actively wants to have notoriety, and chooses to be the one that both sings and performs her songs. What are you even talking about? You're just a Lana Stan that doesnt want to admit her shortcomings.

    • @iwanttoplaywithspringsteen9188
      @iwanttoplaywithspringsteen9188 Месяц назад

      @@LD-tn6ff are you 12 years old ? You certainly sound like it … you don’t seem to have a handle what I’m saying, almost as if you lack any form of reasoned comprehension..

  • @stardustmelody2709
    @stardustmelody2709 Месяц назад +9

    I don't think of Billie as a pop star. She’s too sleepy and unenthusiastic. Terrific voice but not much of a performer in my opinion.

  • @vixbullfrenchies
    @vixbullfrenchies Месяц назад +24

    It feels illegal to be this early. Hi!!

  • @stevestr2258
    @stevestr2258 Месяц назад +19

    Swiftologist stuns in new profile picture

  • @grace19005
    @grace19005 Месяц назад +9

    I still have hope that one day, we'll see Britney return to music. I know she's said that shes done but Britney changes her mind all the time lol I think with time she'll want to release art again on her own terms. She's always dancing on insta because that's what makes her happy. Being a performer is inside her blood, I can't see her never returning for the rest of her life.

  • @tomasferreira4245
    @tomasferreira4245 Месяц назад +7

    I'm a major lana stan, there is no other artist I love more. I got to see her live for the first time last month, an absolute dream of mine. I don't mind she is lazy in the way she performs, I actually 'love' that she doesn't sing the entire songs to let the crowd do it, because it's really moving to sing her songs with a whole world of other passionate fans. She only sang the chorus for West Coast, and let the fans sings everything before the chorus, and I loved that, because the crowd actually knows the lyrics and sang through it all. She does become repetitive in the setlist. I knew the Primavera Sound setlist was going to be the same as the Coachella minus the duets, and the only reasons why that didn't upset me were: (1) it was my first lana show; (2) I actually love the setlist; (3) her presence on stage was supreme.

  • @jamieson4293
    @jamieson4293 Месяц назад +6

    I’m not a massive ari stan but I 100% agree with you saying eternal sunshine was her most focussed album. Alongside thank u next, it’s the only thing she’s put out that I felt I was in her world and understood why she made it and the story she was telling.

  • @Sara01977
    @Sara01977 Месяц назад +4

    Thank you for being so eloquent & thoughtful regarding Britney. You expressed exactly what I’ve been thinking and wanting to say. I was in my early 20’s when Britney came out and through her peak and she really was EVERYTHING!! People need to respect her contributions to the historical pop fabric.

  • @thechanter4evermore
    @thechanter4evermore Месяц назад +8

    The only pop girl I know is Taylor Swift... I used to listen to Britney Spears in early 2000's but that's it.
    I'm grateful to not listen to any of the other girls you mentioned.
    Amen.

    • @ColJessuporderedthecodered
      @ColJessuporderedthecodered Месяц назад +4

      "Amen"😂Hahahaha. I like some of the aforementioned artists and not some of the others, I like artists who bring something different to the table such as alternative pop artists, Lorde, Billie, Lana etc.

  • @roros9422
    @roros9422 Месяц назад +3

    in addition to the misogyny/stan war stuff that has overblown the ariana/ethan drama, I lowkey also think the perceived "attractiveness" of ethan slater also plays a substantial role, because let's be real, if he was a more traditionally attractive man, there would definitely be less pushback against it.

  • @manha7644
    @manha7644 Месяц назад +3

    PLEASE, WE NEED A PART THREE THIS WAS SO GOOD I'M BEGGING

  • @Mel-jl8dt
    @Mel-jl8dt Месяц назад +10

    You articulated the Lana thing very well. I agree with you, im annoyed at how people pay to see her, she gets money from it and doesnt even do the minimum of showing up on time. She is trying to play a character but it comes across as rude
    Aside from that her vocals are very very inconsistent which is another criticism i would give her

  • @lanaa0000
    @lanaa0000 Месяц назад +5

    I feel like Katy Perry WAS one of THE pop girls of the 2010s but idk about now 😭

    • @raquiolinha2507
      @raquiolinha2507 Месяц назад

      I'm sorry but "Woman's World" was so weak 😔 (and the fact that Dr. Luke produced this song is both ironic and problematic)

  • @viceennnte
    @viceennnte Месяц назад +16

    keeping us fed as always

  • @zara3960
    @zara3960 Месяц назад +9

    I dont get the hype around renee and gracie, i heard the song tummy hurts and i genuinely was laughing at how bad and corny the lyrics were, thank god we have chappell to save the white gen z lesbian pop scene, and gracie... i can't even get past her vocals, like you have a millionaire father and you sing this bad??? 💀🥴

  • @Starbuxlvr1313
    @Starbuxlvr1313 Месяц назад +11

    You always make my day when there’s a new upload ❤

  • @baniroka9206
    @baniroka9206 Месяц назад +7

    I'm a Barb had me dead on the floor 🤣💀

  • @4.9.a.l.i.7.7
    @4.9.a.l.i.7.7 Месяц назад +8

    im not a big pop girl fan anymore but im here for the tea and the thoughtful commentary

  • @duckysguidetoshipping8930
    @duckysguidetoshipping8930 Месяц назад +6

    Thank you for talking about Avril Lavigne! I never hear anything about her but she got me through some of the darkes times of my life

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  Месяц назад +6

      she's a queeeeen

    • @duckysguidetoshipping8930
      @duckysguidetoshipping8930 Месяц назад

      @@theswiftologist oh my swift!! You responded!! You just made my day and I was having a bit of a bad one SHES IS THE MOTHERFUCKING PRINCESSS

  • @smitanjalisahu2682
    @smitanjalisahu2682 Месяц назад +6

    My 2 cents on Taylor as unpopular opinion
    She needs to do something a little different for her next album whether it be production wise( i hope🤞) or lyrically otherwise she might become a female drake
    It's a little pressuring but i hope she takes the criticism from ttpd in good light ( like one should) and act on it
    People say Taylor swift will be remembered but not respected...that's a total bullshit and the fact that this narrative is being passed on just because Taylor swift is everywhere and her blocking charts from other artists especially artists in their "prime" age in her 30s is making people go mad..( people pitting older woman and younger woman in their workfield is disgusting but they will never acknowledge it )
    This reminds me also of rep era when everyone hated her didn't like rep called it a flop and now see what's the reaction??

  • @ChristopherMarshburn
    @ChristopherMarshburn Месяц назад +3

    Your devastating money quote about “stan Twitter” was worth the price of admission.

  • @justwonder1404
    @justwonder1404 Месяц назад +12

    When it comes to Ariana's 'cheating scandal', on one hand, I think it's not misogyny to call out people who happen to be women for bad behaviour and the romanticised image of The Other Girl is harmful to women. On the other though, I've never heard of a man being called a homewrecker.

    • @ColJessuporderedthecodered
      @ColJessuporderedthecodered Месяц назад +1

      Ariana is a witch, ruining two people's relationship in the way she did is evil. I watched a video on it a while back, a homewrecker is the perfect description.

    • @diya-hn2wy
      @diya-hn2wy Месяц назад +4

      @@ColJessuporderedthecoderedhow can someone ruin two other peoples relationship be serious. is ethan just a helpless little puppy with no choice but to follow her

    • @ColJessuporderedthecodered
      @ColJessuporderedthecodered Месяц назад

      @@diya-hn2wy I was given a clear account of what happened, Ariana contributed to the ruination of a relationship and that's not acceptable, of course Ethan isn't innocent either but Ariana is a homewrecker, that's a fact!

    • @ColJessuporderedthecodered
      @ColJessuporderedthecodered Месяц назад

      Individual people ruin couples' relationships all the time, be serious.

    • @diya-hn2wy
      @diya-hn2wy Месяц назад +2

      @@ColJessuporderedthecodered weird take. if the relationship is real you can’t wreck it if you try!

  • @isabelafigueira7777
    @isabelafigueira7777 Месяц назад +26

    lana’s setlist makes me so upset its not even funny. i was SO excited for coachella cause i thought she would FINALLY switch things up, and then she did… that. keeping bartender, arcadia and CLOSING with young and beautiful??? i felt bad for the people who waited all day long in the barricade for that

  • @kylemacdcnald
    @kylemacdcnald Месяц назад +6

    would love to see you do a deep dive (or reaction if you're yet to listen to it?) on brat by charli. found it really interesting as a huge charli fan listening to ur thoughts on her in the last video, and while i definitely didn't agree with everything you said, it was refreshing to hear ur views that werent clearly biased (in the way that stan twitter is, in both charli is the root of all evil and charli can do no wrong). i feel like brat is such an interesting album, obviously musically and lyrically (i feel like some might debate this but i really think its refreshing to hear music that has really deep and emotional lyrics without being full of poetic, flowery metaphorical lyrics in the current taylor, lana, olivia climate, nothing against them, i love them but i think there's definitely space for other lyrical avenues), but also the rollout! think this is something that would really suit ur skillset as a non-biased journalistic creator!!

  • @Kitkatzz143
    @Kitkatzz143 Месяц назад +4

    NEVER been this way, thankful for the insightful videos you create. The best place to come for non-biased information:)

  • @KyRogers
    @KyRogers Месяц назад +3

    A couple things about miley. I'm pretty sure she dropped her ep trilogy project because she lost it to the California fires and decided to scrap it to make plastic hearts (which is personally my favorite miley album, and ultimately had a very positive reaction). Her dropping the trilogy had a lot more to do with not wanting to start back at zero and also being influenced by many of the artists the she enjoyed which preceded her.
    I'm a mileyologist to the core and support all miley rights and miley wrongs ❤
    Ultimately, she had her grammy and #1 moment and I think people forget that as a singles artists, she's had top 10 hits pretty consistently since the late 2000s. She's by no means the biggest pop star alive but I think she has more than established a legacy for herself. I also think it's cool that she's an artistic chameleon and I think having that unique trait is what sets her apart, even if it understandably turns some people off in regards to inconsistent image.

  • @yoyocanary
    @yoyocanary Месяц назад +6

    I saw Lana at a festival in 2013? maybe, and it was pretty chill. I liked it.
    Now it's not that. She was somewhere lazy then, too, but it fit the vibe.

  • @jvniper.v
    @jvniper.v Месяц назад +5

    So glad this came out early today I NEEDED THISSS

  • @thia.mp3
    @thia.mp3 Месяц назад +4

    oh that’s not-

  • @lukenaidoo208
    @lukenaidoo208 Месяц назад +5

    could you do a video about laufey? i just think its so interesting that with her genre of music that she was able to grow such a huge like following and career boost, I love her music and she feels like a one of a kind artist

  • @tp4055
    @tp4055 Месяц назад +4

    Zach I just recently found your channel (and EOAS!) and I gotta say I’m obsessed, I could listen to you talk about pop girls and pop culture all day. Keep doing what you’re doing!

  • @abbymcgurk9231
    @abbymcgurk9231 Месяц назад +4

    i can’t get through a Sunday without hearing Zak’s thoughtful analysis