57:31 you’re technically right though im not sure why chat is telling you no. Ivan was sold to rich aliens, he was favored by aliens because he was so well behaved, this gave him special privileges and treatment, thats shown when he has the ability to unlock tills collar.
Might add some more notes as I watch, but so far great stream, i really like that you’re genuinely reacting, and breaking down stuff. Keep up the amazing work!
@@Tacomuncher_25 Thank you! I really love breaking down and digesting such well-crafted stories like this, and taking my viewers on the adventure as I work out and understand things!
ivan calling sua hypocrite for sacrificing herself but ended up doing the same bcs he believes till never loves him back and won’t be affected by his death unlike mizi and sua who are mutually in love with each other. but that is not the case bcs till is in fact affected by ivan’s death, as we can see from round 7 :’)
The trope of sacrificing yourself for an unrequited love is so tragic and it always gets my heart strings so badly. It also feels so bad because I can tell Ivan is definitely the type that could survive if he wanted to, but there's no world without Till ;_;
Yea it honestly kinda sucks since ever since I found that out and pointed it out on stream it was kinda bitter when explaining that to the other Zubuds and Xander a bit 😭🙏
Huh? Till wasnt effected? im pretty sure Till literally tried his best in round 6 becuase he realized someone love him and realized Ivan sacrified himself for Till, so he kept living. Im pretty sure till WAS affected by round 6 as he doesnt really look okay is round 7.
@@chiakiwoah no he WAS affected by round six. No he wasn’t trying in the beginning of round six because at that time he thought everything was lost. When Ivan kissed Till, till was in shock and tried to push him away. He did try a bit in round 7 but the burden of Ivan’s Selfishness brought trauma from that so it was the cause of his death. His last spark was when he saw Mizi but yet he still thought of Ivan as well.
this is the most in-depth reaction I've ever seen of Alien Stage, you actually seem really invested and it just makes me so happy to see someone who actually cares for small details and lore 😭
About the Hyuna and her brother! It's actually not confirmed that Luka actually killed her brother 😭 The fandom still doesn't know and Vivinos hasn't confirmed it😞😞 There's also a THEORY that Hyuna accidentally pushed her brother so hard that his head hit the rock, and the reason why she pushed him was because her brother was teasing Luka as usual. There's a canon doodle that her brother likes to tease Luka and Luka would go to Hyuna. 🏃🏻♀️🏃🏻♀️
Really appreciate u going so in depth abt the story during ur first watch through, the ALNST lore is so amazing and it’s so refreshing seeing someone want to really understand the story and characters being presented! Vivinos and QMENG are both GENIUSES when it comes to storytelling through short videos with little to none dialogue it’s INSANE!! Welcome to Alien Stage!!
This is making me lowkey yap about how in this story you can't simply define a character's feeling to the term love as all the characters don't know what love actually means. From my perspective, the main four (mizi, sua, till and Ivan) all had a deep bond with each other, some different than the other and all four of them deeply respected each other as well. As seen till sawMizii and Sua together and never tried actually intervening even though he ´liked´ Mizi. There were also heavy implications on Vivinos´s Patreon that the ´love´ he felt for Mizi was simply admiration and the type of crush you would get for an idol because, in this entire universe where till has been misused and simply put abused, mizi was the light in his eyes because she had experienced the beauty of this world. I would say he envied and admired her for how she exists in this world. The obvious misconception I often see is that "till never looked at Ivan and loved Mizi!" is totally wrong, they obviously cared about each other and people took the point of view for Ivan and went along with it. Till did care about Ivan, till cared about everyone when you read the comic about tills mom which also confirms again, that simple love doesn't exist at their age. And I fully honestly believe if the world wasn't ruined by the aliens and they all had lived normal and longer lives, till would have totally acknowledged ivans feelings and maybe reciprocated them in due time. Secondly, I would think the closest thing we have to love in this show is Mizi and Sua, they both were aware of their intense emotion for each other and Mizi had already experienced ´love´ from her owner (in the family type of way.) and mizi was the light in suas eyes aswell, and that goes the other way around too. This is why I like this series so much, in a world dominated by aliens and simply doomed for every character you get to experience the care and emotion everyone had for each other rather than experiencing a world-changing rescue mission. You watch characters come to terms with and create their own unique conception of love for another character. SORRY if this didn't make sense but I just really had to yap badly because I absolutely get livid when someone simply slaps on the term love on a character who finds comfort and relief in another character. Butt I do absolutely love Mizisua Ivantill and Hyunluka (a tiny bit) but you almost have to realize it can't be that easy to define love in a world where love doesn't exist and you rather much have to think about how to survive. My bad for yapping so much!!
Round 7 is really rough when you're both a Luka and Till fan lmao. Funfact about Luka is out of al the cast he's actually the biggest eater but his alien guardian forces him into a strict diet ro watch his figure
fun fact, hyuna officially has the most perfect stats out of everyone: vocals - 4.5, stamina 5.0, talent - 5.0, mental strength - 5.0, visuals - 4.0, star potential - 4.5 so theoretically even if she goes against luka, she will win (luka lacks stamina and mental strength, talent is also lower comparing to hyuna)
since no one wants to chopchop timestamp boy ig it's my time to.. THE TIMESTAMPS ARE ORGANIZED SO SOME MAY NOT BE IN ORDER ALSO I DIDN"T TIMESTAMP EVERYTHING OTHERWISE IT WOULD'VE TAKEN LONGER 0:00 - 10:36 "stream loading..." - 10:39 - 41:08 "stream start // chatting" - 41:12 - 43:17 "About to react" - (REACTION TIME) 43:18 - 45:32 "SWEET DREAM" - 1:00:11 - 1:10:08 "R1 MY CLEMATIS" - 1:11:17 - 1:15:39 "R2 UNKNOWN TILL THE END" - 1:21:10 - 1:25:15 "R3 BLACK SORROW" - 1:34:41 - 1:39:08 "R5 RULER OF MY HEART" - 1:47:52 - 1:49:45 "MIZISUA" - 1:52:40 - 1:56:29 "TOP 3" - 1:56:38 - 2:00:04 "ALL IN" (ch-cheers) - (uh oh u know what time it is..) "..." 2:06:22 -2:13:04 "R6 CURE" - ggs.. 😭😭 2:27:51 - 2:32:10 "R7 / FINAL BLINK GONE" -- Extra: 2:39:51 - 2:50:43 community post// pateron :3 - 2:50:57 - 3:03:03 yt comments - 3:03:09 - 3:10:55 "OUR DIVAA~" 3:31:02 - 3:34:04 "NOWHERE" IVAN - COVERS: - 3:13:50 - IVANTILL "MY CLEMATIS" - 3:19:25 - 3:23:04 HYUNA "RULER OF MY HEART - 3:23:23 - 3:27:26 MIZISUA "CURE" - 3:27:47 - 3:30:45 TILL "ALL IN"
im still watching but i have to comment this, your guesses are SO accurate its scary lol even with little to no context you got some things right and i love how in depth youre analyzing this and making sure you dont get anything wrong, i appreciate it a lot :) immediately subscribed
also!! here is the official post from free patreon about luka (symbolisms of character's flowers) LUKA: Purple rose Florography : Anxious Love LUKA's love is uneasy. Even though LUKA has never felt insecure in his life, he instinctively knows that his love is insecure. If you're born and raised in a restrictive environment where every breath you take, every facial expression, every angle of your mouth is controlled, you don't even have a chance to think about 'healthy love'. But love is still love, and it's not like LUKA didn't try. However, we don't know if his efforts are really making the other person happy. LUKA thought the whole time he was away from HYUNA. About what he should have done, and how on earth he could be more connected to his loved ones than blood. But as smart as LUKA was, he couldn't figure it out without reading tons of books and studying hard. We don't know if anyone will ever know LUKA's heart, but as he learned, we will put the most colorful roses in the most colorful casket. We're working hard on the next episode so you'll soon see how much LUKA cares about HYUNA, so stay tuned. if you're interested i can share what was said about other characters:)
It's so exciting to see new reactions!!! Fun fact, they technically don't know what a 'kiss' really is but it started as a trend back when they were kids based on an official comic, I LOVE ALNST LORE I COULD GO ON FOR DAYS..... Edit: so i just spread misinformation sorry 😭😭😭
@@GoodKnighting Till never said anything like that. Till said "Ew gross, why would we do that?" To which Ivan asked Till to do that at least ones and Till said: "Maybe on your birthday" and Ivan said: "But you know that I don't have a birthday", implying that Till never intended to actually do it.
Ivan stepped on the flowers bc they're cameras and only he knew 😔😔 (everything is artificial in the Anakt Garden, if you look closely in round 1, you can see how the "sky" is a wall 😭😭) ALNST is not over!!!
2:09:40 you should also read the official comic for this dramatic scene, the topic of this comic is “Confession “. In the comic, you can see what was Ivan thinking while he was on the stage.Basically, it’s what Ivan wanted to say to Till in the end of his life, so the topic is ”Confession “. It’s really tragic and heartbreaking 😭.
Omg! This stream was super fun to be in! I’m super happy I helped you understand the lore better and tell you background information! Thanks for taking this alien stage request (And yes I did good on my art classes don’t worry ♥️) Also the point where you were talking about eh relationship between Ivan and Till, There love seemed very one sided in the show but don’t lose hope for this ship! The creator as I said confirmed on her patreon that they did have a love hate bond that was just never really explored!
i love it when you take time to understand about it not just watched it and it doesn't confirm yet but for me i don't think luka killed hyunwoo maybe they just fight but hyuna might tried to stop them and accidently push her brother and it killed her brother since in the comic jacob told her to forgive herself too
idk abt who suffered more but the characters i feel really bad for are till (bc he suffered all kinds of abuse in the hands of his owner, compared to the other kids) and especially ivan. all the characters knew love in some form, but ivan: first of all, he grew up orphan in the slums, which fucked up his ability to understand emotions; his alien owner wasn't violent but treated him just like an object/trophy; he couldn't connect with the rest of the anakt kids other than till (and maybe sua) at all; although till thought of ivan as a close friend and cared abt him, ivan was never made aware of that and assumed any sort of feelings between them were purely one sided. ivan didn't understand love or how to express it because he grew without it and after that he never FELT loved. in the extra contents, he is shown self-deprecating and undermining his relationships with other people all the time. he thought that he was "defective" and that there was something lacking in him, which made him inherently unlovable. and he >died< believing this was true so in his mind he basically lived a meaningless life where he didn't matter to anyone... and idk i think that's worse than actually dying
Is Nowhere the song that Ivan wrote incase he won in case of Till cause they told us that he didn't intend to sacrifice himself in that way untill Till stopped singing... Cause if this was true than... Gosh
57:31 you’re technically right though im not sure why chat is telling you no. Ivan was sold to rich aliens, he was favored by aliens because he was so well behaved, this gave him special privileges and treatment, thats shown when he has the ability to unlock tills collar.
Might add some more notes as I watch, but so far great stream, i really like that you’re genuinely reacting, and breaking down stuff. Keep up the amazing work!
@@Tacomuncher_25 Thank you! I really love breaking down and digesting such well-crafted stories like this, and taking my viewers on the adventure as I work out and understand things!
ivan calling sua hypocrite for sacrificing herself but ended up doing the same bcs he believes till never loves him back and won’t be affected by his death unlike mizi and sua who are mutually in love with each other. but that is not the case bcs till is in fact affected by ivan’s death, as we can see from round 7 :’)
The trope of sacrificing yourself for an unrequited love is so tragic and it always gets my heart strings so badly. It also feels so bad because I can tell Ivan is definitely the type that could survive if he wanted to, but there's no world without Till ;_;
Yea it honestly kinda sucks since ever since I found that out and pointed it out on stream it was kinda bitter when explaining that to the other Zubuds and Xander a bit 😭🙏
@@XanderZubu it never been stated is unrequieted, which make it worse, he just didnt knew u.u both of them even
Huh? Till wasnt effected? im pretty sure Till literally tried his best in round 6 becuase he realized someone love him and realized Ivan sacrified himself for Till, so he kept living. Im pretty sure till WAS affected by round 6 as he doesnt really look okay is round 7.
@@chiakiwoah no he WAS affected by round six. No he wasn’t trying in the beginning of round six because at that time he thought everything was lost. When Ivan kissed Till, till was in shock and tried to push him away. He did try a bit in round 7 but the burden of Ivan’s Selfishness brought trauma from that so it was the cause of his death. His last spark was when he saw Mizi but yet he still thought of Ivan as well.
this is the most in-depth reaction I've ever seen of Alien Stage, you actually seem really invested and it just makes me so happy to see someone who actually cares for small details and lore 😭
About the Hyuna and her brother! It's actually not confirmed that Luka actually killed her brother 😭
The fandom still doesn't know and Vivinos hasn't confirmed it😞😞
There's also a THEORY that Hyuna accidentally pushed her brother so hard that his head hit the rock, and the reason why she pushed him was because her brother was teasing Luka as usual.
There's a canon doodle that her brother likes to tease Luka and Luka would go to Hyuna. 🏃🏻♀️🏃🏻♀️
Oh it's not confirmed! I do hope that is actually the case - I really like Luka's design and it would suck if he was truly evil with bad motives :(
I mean.. he’s still manipulating others, but he was manipulated himself. I feel bad for him but I also love Till.
Really appreciate u going so in depth abt the story during ur first watch through, the ALNST lore is so amazing and it’s so refreshing seeing someone want to really understand the story and characters being presented! Vivinos and QMENG are both GENIUSES when it comes to storytelling through short videos with little to none dialogue it’s INSANE!! Welcome to Alien Stage!!
fun fact: Till's round 2 song is called Unknown (Till the end), and Mizi's name translates to 'unknown'
This is making me lowkey yap about how in this story you can't simply define a character's feeling to the term love as all the characters don't know what love actually means. From my perspective, the main four (mizi, sua, till and Ivan) all had a deep bond with each other, some different than the other and all four of them deeply respected each other as well. As seen till sawMizii and Sua together and never tried actually intervening even though he ´liked´ Mizi. There were also heavy implications on Vivinos´s Patreon that the ´love´ he felt for Mizi was simply admiration and the type of crush you would get for an idol because, in this entire universe where till has been misused and simply put abused, mizi was the light in his eyes because she had experienced the beauty of this world. I would say he envied and admired her for how she exists in this world. The obvious misconception I often see is that "till never looked at Ivan and loved Mizi!" is totally wrong, they obviously cared about each other and people took the point of view for Ivan and went along with it. Till did care about Ivan, till cared about everyone when you read the comic about tills mom which also confirms again, that simple love doesn't exist at their age. And I fully honestly believe if the world wasn't ruined by the aliens and they all had lived normal and longer lives, till would have totally acknowledged ivans feelings and maybe reciprocated them in due time. Secondly, I would think the closest thing we have to love in this show is Mizi and Sua, they both were aware of their intense emotion for each other and Mizi had already experienced ´love´ from her owner (in the family type of way.) and mizi was the light in suas eyes aswell, and that goes the other way around too. This is why I like this series so much, in a world dominated by aliens and simply doomed for every character you get to experience the care and emotion everyone had for each other rather than experiencing a world-changing rescue mission. You watch characters come to terms with and create their own unique conception of love for another character. SORRY if this didn't make sense but I just really had to yap badly because I absolutely get livid when someone simply slaps on the term love on a character who finds comfort and relief in another character. Butt I do absolutely love Mizisua Ivantill and Hyunluka (a tiny bit) but you almost have to realize it can't be that easy to define love in a world where love doesn't exist and you rather much have to think about how to survive. My bad for yapping so much!!
Round 7 is really rough when you're both a Luka and Till fan lmao. Funfact about Luka is out of al the cast he's actually the biggest eater but his alien guardian forces him into a strict diet ro watch his figure
fun fact, hyuna officially has the most perfect stats out of everyone: vocals - 4.5, stamina 5.0, talent - 5.0, mental strength - 5.0, visuals - 4.0, star potential - 4.5
so theoretically even if she goes against luka, she will win (luka lacks stamina and mental strength, talent is also lower comparing to hyuna)
i thought luka had higher visuals? aren't her visuals 4.0?
@@N1lukaloverdefenderandglazer he has higher visuals, yes. It is 4.0 in my comment😭
@@luna-us5vn oh my god im so sorry i feel so stupid i am so sorry 😭
@@N1lukaloverdefenderandglazer it’s ok!!
since no one wants to chopchop timestamp boy ig it's my time
to..
THE TIMESTAMPS ARE ORGANIZED SO SOME MAY NOT BE IN ORDER
ALSO I DIDN"T TIMESTAMP EVERYTHING OTHERWISE IT WOULD'VE TAKEN LONGER
0:00 - 10:36 "stream loading..."
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10:39 - 41:08 "stream start // chatting"
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41:12 - 43:17 "About to react"
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(REACTION TIME)
43:18 - 45:32 "SWEET DREAM"
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1:00:11 - 1:10:08 "R1 MY CLEMATIS"
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1:11:17 - 1:15:39 "R2 UNKNOWN TILL THE END"
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1:21:10 - 1:25:15 "R3 BLACK SORROW"
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1:34:41 - 1:39:08 "R5 RULER OF MY HEART"
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1:47:52 - 1:49:45 "MIZISUA"
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1:52:40 - 1:56:29 "TOP 3"
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1:56:38 - 2:00:04 "ALL IN" (ch-cheers)
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(uh oh u know what time it is..)
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2:06:22 -2:13:04 "R6 CURE"
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ggs.. 😭😭
2:27:51 - 2:32:10 "R7 / FINAL BLINK GONE"
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Extra:
2:39:51 - 2:50:43 community post// pateron :3
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2:50:57 - 3:03:03 yt comments
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3:03:09 - 3:10:55 "OUR DIVAA~"
3:31:02 - 3:34:04 "NOWHERE" IVAN
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COVERS:
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3:13:50 - IVANTILL "MY CLEMATIS"
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3:19:25 - 3:23:04 HYUNA "RULER OF MY HEART
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3:23:23 - 3:27:26 MIZISUA "CURE"
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3:27:47 - 3:30:45 TILL "ALL IN"
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im still watching but i have to comment this, your guesses are SO accurate its scary lol even with little to no context you got some things right and i love how in depth youre analyzing this and making sure you dont get anything wrong, i appreciate it a lot :) immediately subscribed
also!! here is the official post from free patreon about luka (symbolisms of character's flowers)
LUKA: Purple rose
Florography : Anxious Love
LUKA's love is uneasy. Even though LUKA has never felt insecure in his life, he instinctively knows that his love is insecure.
If you're born and raised in a restrictive environment where every breath you take, every facial expression, every angle of your mouth is controlled, you don't even have a chance to think about 'healthy love'. But love is still love, and it's not like LUKA didn't try.
However, we don't know if his efforts are really making the other person happy. LUKA thought the whole time he was away from
HYUNA. About what he should have done, and how on earth he could be more connected to his loved ones than blood. But as smart as LUKA was, he couldn't figure it out without reading tons of books and studying hard.
We don't know if anyone will ever know LUKA's heart, but as he learned, we will put the most colorful roses in the most colorful casket.
We're working hard on the next episode so you'll soon see how much LUKA cares about HYUNA, so stay tuned.
if you're interested i can share what was said about other characters:)
POR FIN alguien quien reacciona a "Nowhere"
It's so exciting to see new reactions!!! Fun fact, they technically don't know what a 'kiss' really is but it started as a trend back when they were kids based on an official comic, I LOVE ALNST LORE I COULD GO ON FOR DAYS.....
Edit: so i just spread misinformation sorry
😭😭😭
@@GoodKnighting Till never said anything like that. Till said "Ew gross, why would we do that?" To which Ivan asked Till to do that at least ones and Till said: "Maybe on your birthday" and Ivan said: "But you know that I don't have a birthday", implying that Till never intended to actually do it.
@@СофияВихарева-ц2к I must've been confused with all the theories I read sorry 😭
@@GoodKnighting no worries.
Ivan stepped on the flowers bc they're cameras and only he knew 😔😔 (everything is artificial in the Anakt Garden, if you look closely in round 1, you can see how the "sky" is a wall 😭😭) ALNST is not over!!!
2:09:40 you should also read the official comic for this dramatic scene, the topic of this comic is “Confession “. In the comic, you can see what was Ivan thinking while he was on the stage.Basically, it’s what Ivan wanted to say to Till in the end of his life, so the topic is ”Confession “. It’s really tragic and heartbreaking 😭.
Omg! This stream was super fun to be in! I’m super happy I helped you understand the lore better and tell you background information! Thanks for taking this alien stage request
(And yes I did good on my art classes don’t worry ♥️)
Also the point where you were talking about eh relationship between Ivan and Till, There love seemed very one sided in the show but don’t lose hope for this ship! The creator as I said confirmed on her patreon that they did have a love hate bond that was just never really explored!
Clicked for alien stage but got surprised by your covers! Guess im going to listen to them on my own now.
i love it when you take time to understand about it not just watched it and it doesn't confirm yet but for me i don't think luka killed hyunwoo maybe they just fight but hyuna might tried to stop them and accidently push her brother and it killed her brother since in the comic jacob told her to forgive herself too
idk abt who suffered more but the characters i feel really bad for are till (bc he suffered all kinds of abuse in the hands of his owner, compared to the other kids) and especially ivan. all the characters knew love in some form, but ivan: first of all, he grew up orphan in the slums, which fucked up his ability to understand emotions; his alien owner wasn't violent but treated him just like an object/trophy; he couldn't connect with the rest of the anakt kids other than till (and maybe sua) at all; although till thought of ivan as a close friend and cared abt him, ivan was never made aware of that and assumed any sort of feelings between them were purely one sided.
ivan didn't understand love or how to express it because he grew without it and after that he never FELT loved. in the extra contents, he is shown self-deprecating and undermining his relationships with other people all the time. he thought that he was "defective" and that there was something lacking in him, which made him inherently unlovable. and he >died< believing this was true so in his mind he basically lived a meaningless life where he didn't matter to anyone... and idk i think that's worse than actually dying
the most doomed part in round 3 is that ivan sing this sone for till but till manage to awake at the end of the song PAIN
NOOOOOO I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THISS OMGG
I'm just waiting for Wiege (next episode) to confirm or deny the Luka allegations TT
Is Nowhere the song that Ivan wrote incase he won in case of Till cause they told us that he didn't intend to sacrifice himself in that way untill Till stopped singing... Cause if this was true than... Gosh
I love u for care abt lore
Please react to Nowhere!! There’s lore behind the creation of the song…
@@Shxmaiii he did! In this live stream
@ HE DID??
@@Shxmaiii yea a bit more in the end! ^^
At 3:31:00 ^^
@@Ivan-Lover0v0 OH MY HOD TYDMM
Noo! I was sleeping that time! I'm late 😢
NOOOO I WAS ASLEEP
I LIKE ALL SONGS
hi