Not sure I saw a single Rogue moment where I thought "wow that's strong". Actually quite the opposite! Having to run from Warlocks and Wizards while in melee range as the anti mage class is so telling. Glad I stopped playing this game.
Playing wiz lately Im dying mostly to longbow users. Rogues in solos used to feel super oppressive against wizy but now I'm more scared of getting two tapped from across the module. Also when playing slayer, rogue 1v1s are usually a cake walk. It's difficult to kite someone moving the same speed as you with better range and melee options. Hell rat into bear form does ambush gameplay better than the class designed around it which is sad. At least give rogue some movement buff like a tumble rework if druid is going to exist
@@borggambsmash7825 yeah landmine is boring to play and fight against imho. I've maybe 50 levels combined on Rogue from all wipes because everytime I want to build a dj poison weapon build or something like this it just feels so bad compared to any other kitting build in the game. Landmine is incentivised because it's the only way to kill someone who's awake in a quick manor and not put your entire 100hp at a super risk. That all being said I think the game is in a good place right now. Rogues a little too weak, tm warlock is a little too strong, and druid shouldn't exist. Besides that it feels pretty balanced in a pokemon/rock paper scissors kind of way. There are favourable matchups, but any class can kill any class. Except for druid who only dies when they decide they want to. Choose to loose character
lmao. you guys who quit really LOVE to let everyone know, on Dark and Darker specific content, that you no longer play. Bit weird dont you think? Maybe try moving on if the game is so bad bro lmao. So, so weird.
Rogue is a PVE farming class. If you see someone run, unless theyre afk and you can get 6-8 stabs in to kill them. Otherwise be prepared to get 1-2 shot by most if not all classes.
so many esp'ers in the game now. every 3-4 games i get a player just terminator walk in a straight line directly at me and swing straight at my face while hiding. Funny enough its never a wizard or warlock that are hackers its the braindead fighters and barbs that are every time LMAO
Probably 124 lobbies. Ken has been playing a lot of them, they're very fun for pvp imo. Weapons give a shit ton of GS so some kits skimp on them to stay under.
@@Rooster70 Bro I said "Vs cheaters with ESP" , I didn't say you guys were cheating. Solo games as rouge feels like this 16 seconds. And if you come across someone that literally sees you in the dark/through walls, this is how it feels in less than 10 seconds. You guys did well, that was a funny/good fight, no one was cheating, chill, just saying there are some, and it's literally not as big of a waste of time compared to other games with cheaters. Example; league of legends, csgo, ect.
@@MrHeroicDemon there isnt some... a lot of solo is full of esp'ers right now. a quarter of my games I play as rogue I get terminator ran down my some moron cheater making eye contact with some invisible rogue in the dark and holding W lol. god knows how many are actually good at hiding it and not 1 step above a bot.
Bro in a few of those clips you literally just let your team die as you run away after getting hit once and losing 50-70% of your HP. Then you spend the next 45 seconds healing while your team 2v3s only to go back in and do the same thing. It's got a tonne of damage, nobody is saying it doesn't. At the high end it's a great class for damage and movespeed, especially solo. But in team fights, it's a useless piece of garbage 80% of the time as it just hides and let's other, better classes fight it out. You're also one of the best players in the game. Of course you can make it look good. But it doesn't change the fact that it's an extremely situational class, that requires good positional plays to make it useful. And even then, it's a ball-hog class -> it's a "look at me, I'm gonna not help my team cause i cant or i might die, but I can probably kill someone after they all die and are spectating me so they can watch it happen" class. I'm not saying that is what happened in this clips per se, I'm saying that's what usually happens to the average playing playing this class. Barb is also a "look at me" class, but at least it can run in a fight and be one of the last ones standing without spending 80% of the fight in a corner using bandages like they are going out of style.
yeah, i feel rogue is mainly a solo class. its advantage is being able to heal quickly and reset faster than any other class, and thats not ideal in team fights lol
@@RUclipsrh8r he can't even reset faster than most classes so that is also false cleric druid wiz also heals faster bc they scale pots to heal more fighter has 2nd wind barb can use blood exchange potion chugger so rogue is just bad in general js i main rogue and can literally play every class in the game and not bad like very well and its def easier to play every other class lol like x3 more easier than if i played rogue it's an actual joke u quite literally die in 1 hit in very geared lobbies so no its really not that good in solo at high lvl also like u hp stack to 200 and a bear 1 shots u still so its completely pointless just play druid instead clearly iron mace only wants ppl to main support classes bc they are the most op classes in the game
Rogue bottom tier in all team play but we will still probably get nerfed again this season because others dont like rogues. I cant tell you how many times 2 fighting teams will stop what their doing to gang up on a solo rogue. People say rogues are whiny but the minute rogue is viable everyone bitches.
@@hsqqq they lowerd the - magic res a long time ago but its kinda shit bc we also do no dmg i would of rather took 3/4 of my hp to poison to still be able to dps properly
Lobster is expensive because of scarcity and it’s partially a status of wealth, kind of like caviar but to a lesser degree. When it was more common it was given to prisoners but because of over fishing it’s now harder to catch leading to being more expensive.
theres no lack of lobster. the price of lobster was artificially inflated because of marketing strategies believe it or not. lobster is expensive literally because someone wanted to make it so. today the prices are going even higher though because of less people working in the lobster industry and the cost of oil is ridiculous too.
@@Dzyroth808 js lobster and crab is expensive bc they throw like half the catches back into the sea bc they Arnt quality and bc u have to manually empty the traps. Most of the sea food that is getting cheaper has a production method to produce it at higher rates by farming them almost like crops caviar is expensive now well only the roe from Stergion bc they were fished to almost extinction for the roe they produce making people who still supply the roe farm them in fish farms. Stergion takes like 30years or something crazy to fully grow so that is why Cavar is expensive and crabs and lobsters used to be food for prisoners back in the day people didn't know lobster started decaying as soon as it died, they would server day old lobster to people once a week bc anymore was considered inhumane treatment.
@@CharlieBrown-bh2pq instead of coping you and him should learn how to play the game. Couldn’t imagine only playing this game to kill the pve. That’s brain dead
@@larewt its more like when u go hr people has some crazy bis and a lot of the time if ur like mid kitted its not even worth going into bc someone will have a 600 gs kit and u got 225 just trying to make it in and they will walk over u like you're a ant on the sidewalk lol honestly i haven't even been doing arena bc of the same thing they don't que u into a match of similar geared players and i don't like walking on people it feels dumb i want to pvp that is not pvp... like i would take gear off but u don't know who u even get matched up with so it's not like i can match their gear and have a fun fight...
First time after 130 hours of pure rogue play i took gear score under 124 it was 2/4 k gold kit somewhere like that … for 3 hours i claimed 40/50 ppl and thanks only to “headshots” if i land 1/2 headshots and rest bodyshots and go back and try crossbow+ knifes i have big chance that i take for 3 hits 2 headshots over 150 health but the cost is 2 taps from them.. and if they land headshot too im mostly done lol with rupture+ poison and my gear is mostly true magical dmg but still the amount of play i have to do + i simulate every cenario ahead sou i dont fuck this 1 and only moment for win” and i win mostly cuz ppl are braindead players and dont know shit… i lost that 4k kit to a bard that knew what he was doin very skilled he was but still rogue is garbage… every class is better but i refuse to play another class 😭 funny even tho i dont want to play pvp ppl will force it anyway
I’m convinced half these comments didn’t watch the video. Talking about how weak rogue is.. rogue is fine with gear on, its weak in their 24gs lobbies they never leave 😂 Great video jay!
It's so frustrating when people say stuff like Rogue is good with equipment because it shows that Rogues perks are weak which makes it dependent of equipment and then they act like it's okay.
1. He was fighting timmies without gear while abusing 124 gs 2. Was able to kill only squishy, unaware players, he must run away from fighters and barbarians 2. He plays this game 24/7/365 so he doesn't represent skill level of average player 3. Enemies without headphones ( they always knew about the rogue, but they did everything to get killed as easily as possible ) 4. NA region 5. none of the wizards use lightorbs to completely eliminate the rogues' stealth because they don't want to WASTE 1 spell slot out of 5 or even 10 while rogue can pick only one SKILL if hes using hide 5. Died to fighter as he had no weakpoint (unfortunately as a rogue you have to choose between rupture, cuthroat or weakpoint - cutthroat is better for killing wizards, weakpoint helps with PDR fighters and rupture is just 20dmg over 5 seconds so something like 4dmg per second (so its even worse than one wizard's zap) while a wizard can just throw a fireballs (1 fb direct does more than half hp to nearly every class and if u manage to direct headshot u can even 1 tap someone) at everyone and can throw four of them in 5seconds, as a rogue if you make a mistake with your skill you have to wait for cooldown to end which in most of the times ends with your teammates being dead as they need to 2v3) 6. Nearly got one shoted by mob (normal goblin takes half of your hp if he hit you and that can be very unlucky for you to get hitted mid fight or when you are running away with low hp) 7. 30% video rogue gameplay, 70% video wizard gameplay 8. Jay played pickpocket rogue 80% of his rogue carrier because its more viable way of getting loot out of enemy (jk and not kidding at the same time) Rogue IS WEAK even when played by a top tier player as he must commit to melee fights with low hp/pdr/mdr/dmg only with the help of hide which only works on timmies. btw barbarian can be as fast as rogue if hes using rage skill and is wearing lightfoot boots and loose trousers, fighter also can catch up easly with sprint skill so its very hard to kait them, also fighter has a fucking bow and 60% pdr so good luck kaiting this beast in this patch. Sorry for my english and im sorry for rogue mains as they are constantly being rekt by every class. BTW druid instant shapeshift and jump tech is getting out of control meanwhile rogue received few nerfs xd
Rogue is not weak, only real challenge are pdr fighters even then u have weak point and armor pen, every other class is easy to kill as rogue. The game is supposed to be played as a team, rogues are meant to be the ones who kill the back line not face tank the tank class. They can easily kill the backline or weak point the front liner to guarantee kill them with a teammate. Use hide like rage instead of wasting it in a corner hoping for someone to pass by. Bait/dodge first or second attack and it’s a guaranteed kill on any class. I don’t understand how people think they are bad really makes me want to watch how an average players plays rogue.
@@noonegaming8685 ask yourself, what can rogue do that slayer fighter doesnt do better? even base rogue has less invis time than a base fighter with a grey invis pot. theres no reason to play rogue as it is when you can deal more dmg, have as much ms ( even more with sprint :OOOO), have better recovery, have better range, have better burst in most cases, and have more hp as fighter.
Rogue takes advantage of opportunities. - If both classes swing at the same time w/ low HP, Rogue wins. - If both classes are running (except for Druid), Rogue wins. - If Rogue's team is at advantage, he executes a class and it's a win. But Rogue struggles at making their own opportunities, until you're at an advantage the Rogue is mostly useless. Druid has kinda taken Rogue's spot as a dive 'n dip, execute 1 class.
um yea? thats kinda the point if being a glass cannon class? die in 2 taps get kills in nearly as many?? rangers are literally insta killing with multishot, and wizards were nearly 1 tapping with fireball not long ago so like???
Na ya trying to gaslight me into thinking rouge is bad I’ve been playing rouge for a long time I’m almost lvl 200 with rouge this season I think he’s in a balanced spot yea a he could use a buff in a few areas but overall he’s great at taking at the backline
Against most players it's great. Against experienced players it's useless 95% of the time, even if you're as or more experienced than them. Deception only goes so far.
I know it's really the only way rogue can work well but invis rogue is so lame you just use it on cooldown until they don't realize you're using it and you get the jump.
And all the rogues in the discord would tell you it's a skill issue on your end you should've known he was there even though he never once stopped crouch walking
@@DilsGaming know how you counter a rouge land mine? keep your weapon out... every single melee class out brawls rouge in a heads up fight. the people who bitch about rouge are the ones dying with their torch out looting a goblin.
4:03 "Ranger is so broken" - KenKnobiTV Full L take. He's playing a class with the Lowest HP in Base kit in the entire game, even Rogue has more base HP. Fighter can do the exact same thing the ranger did in this situation, except with Full Plate armor on so that when Jay rushed him he woulda just melee dueled. I would rather be a 1 Perk (Weapon Mastery) fighter with Sprint & Second Wind, than to be a 4 Perk Ranger with any 2 Ranger Abilities, any day of the week. Also I can almost guarantee Ken has done an Ignite Magic Staff build at least once, so he really can't complain about anything, let alone Rangers. :D
rondel dagger being the only viable weapon in the game, and rogues having more movespeed while no longer beig 1 tap to everything just makes this game so shit. just rogue bard fighter with rondel w key spam attack no skill or aiming required. this season sucks dick
rogue needs to head shot to kill u before u kill him with arms shots.... that is reality if u hit him, he would literally fold in half the fact that your complaining about rogue is a joke what u want him to heal u when he stabs u instead of doing no dmg?
@@brennanorr2 people complaining they got snuck up to point blank by a class with no better walking sound distance then any other class is telling. fighter can literally do the same thing and kill you faster lmao
I don’t play rogue and they aren’t the most broken class. They have some broken abilities like hide and double jump, but Druid and warlock fundamentally break the game which is why I would consider them broken.
@@robforskinstein I understand what you mean, I would still consider dj more broken as it changes the design of the game. A rogue with double jump can reach spots no other class can except Druid now, meaning they could just spam hand crossbow, wait for you to run before jumping down and if they chased you slow you back down and get in the spot. The ms is directly tied to hide so it’s strong but they can always nerf hide or the ms to fix it. You can nerf double jump into the ground and people will still take it for the ability to access new parts of the map unable to be reached before
@@RinandStyx it's only good on ruins tho for the most part. I do agree tho that it breaks the game. I still have yet to even see a rogue in my like 25 hours of playtime.
@@JamaRift i agreed brother dont know what youtube did to the comment but druid is busted. Only that 80% are to stupid to play. Most of them just Camp around
Plays rogue in trios
Takes best clips from hours of gameplay
Then says rogue is Op
Lmao almost fooled us brother GG
Rogue op:
dies to bola.
I like the vibes Jay brings to this game. So chill, and so excitable at the same time. Top tier streamer!
The editor is sure cooking something up with this, he somehow managed to piss off the entire rogue playerbase 😂
rogue just gets gutted once a season at this point i dont even play anymore
play another class for a bit ya whiner
@@Midwestemoisme i played bard for a while didnt really like it and everyone else is too clunky. i bet you solo queue a lot tho you rude bum
@@Midwestemoismethanks for the unsolicited advice door knob
@@Midwestemoisme yeah, that's the solution! everyone play fighter, problem solved.
" i love when they jump on the wood" pause
Not sure I saw a single Rogue moment where I thought "wow that's strong". Actually quite the opposite! Having to run from Warlocks and Wizards while in melee range as the anti mage class is so telling. Glad I stopped playing this game.
Playing wiz lately Im dying mostly to longbow users. Rogues in solos used to feel super oppressive against wizy but now I'm more scared of getting two tapped from across the module.
Also when playing slayer, rogue 1v1s are usually a cake walk. It's difficult to kite someone moving the same speed as you with better range and melee options.
Hell rat into bear form does ambush gameplay better than the class designed around it which is sad. At least give rogue some movement buff like a tumble rework if druid is going to exist
@@BirdUpFR rogue being a landmine for so long ruined so many people to the game, leave it dead like the game would be if not nerfing that lol
@@borggambsmash7825 yeah landmine is boring to play and fight against imho. I've maybe 50 levels combined on Rogue from all wipes because everytime I want to build a dj poison weapon build or something like this it just feels so bad compared to any other kitting build in the game. Landmine is incentivised because it's the only way to kill someone who's awake in a quick manor and not put your entire 100hp at a super risk.
That all being said I think the game is in a good place right now. Rogues a little too weak, tm warlock is a little too strong, and druid shouldn't exist. Besides that it feels pretty balanced in a pokemon/rock paper scissors kind of way. There are favourable matchups, but any class can kill any class. Except for druid who only dies when they decide they want to. Choose to loose character
lmao. you guys who quit really LOVE to let everyone know, on Dark and Darker specific content, that you no longer play. Bit weird dont you think? Maybe try moving on if the game is so bad bro lmao. So, so weird.
"i love when they jump on the wood"
Rogue is a PVE farming class. If you see someone run, unless theyre afk and you can get 6-8 stabs in to kill them. Otherwise be prepared to get 1-2 shot by most if not all classes.
korean and mexican is the craziest combo ever
shout out for down the road, kent wa.
so many esp'ers in the game now. every 3-4 games i get a player just terminator walk in a straight line directly at me and swing straight at my face while hiding. Funny enough its never a wizard or warlock that are hackers its the braindead fighters and barbs that are every time LMAO
Got me wanting to play my wizard lol
>Rogue is a Very "WEAK" Class
>Shows the most dogshit rogue gameplay ever witnessed
what did he mean by this?
The editor is smoking something strange for sure
nicest dark and darker youtube comment
these are your clips?
9:03 why does jay have a grey spellbook😭
rogue gameplay
Probably 124 lobbies. Ken has been playing a lot of them, they're very fun for pvp imo. Weapons give a shit ton of GS so some kits skimp on them to stay under.
easier to build 124 twink with bad spellbook
Jay you should do some pickpocketing with "Pot Roasters", combining your guys' pickpocket content would truly be divine.
Rogue got buffed now it gets 2 hit by a 50 strength 50 vig barb
What bug is Jay talking about? I've noticed some weird stuff since 2 days ago.
Looks like his fps were dropping after every melee, could be that
3:00 - 3:16
How normally fights go, and vs cheaters with ESP.
Bro that was me and my friends in that clip. We do not cheat lmao
@@Rooster70 Bro I said "Vs cheaters with ESP" , I didn't say you guys were cheating.
Solo games as rouge feels like this 16 seconds. And if you come across someone that literally sees you in the dark/through walls, this is how it feels in less than 10 seconds.
You guys did well, that was a funny/good fight, no one was cheating, chill, just saying there are some, and it's literally not as big of a waste of time compared to other games with cheaters. Example; league of legends, csgo, ect.
@@MrHeroicDemon there isnt some... a lot of solo is full of esp'ers right now. a quarter of my games I play as rogue I get terminator ran down my some moron cheater making eye contact with some invisible rogue in the dark and holding W lol. god knows how many are actually good at hiding it and not 1 step above a bot.
Bro in a few of those clips you literally just let your team die as you run away after getting hit once and losing 50-70% of your HP. Then you spend the next 45 seconds healing while your team 2v3s only to go back in and do the same thing.
It's got a tonne of damage, nobody is saying it doesn't. At the high end it's a great class for damage and movespeed, especially solo. But in team fights, it's a useless piece of garbage 80% of the time as it just hides and let's other, better classes fight it out.
You're also one of the best players in the game. Of course you can make it look good. But it doesn't change the fact that it's an extremely situational class, that requires good positional plays to make it useful. And even then, it's a ball-hog class -> it's a "look at me, I'm gonna not help my team cause i cant or i might die, but I can probably kill someone after they all die and are spectating me so they can watch it happen" class.
I'm not saying that is what happened in this clips per se, I'm saying that's what usually happens to the average playing playing this class. Barb is also a "look at me" class, but at least it can run in a fight and be one of the last ones standing without spending 80% of the fight in a corner using bandages like they are going out of style.
Literally the point of the title and video.
yeah, i feel rogue is mainly a solo class. its advantage is being able to heal quickly and reset faster than any other class, and thats not ideal in team fights lol
@@RUclipsrh8r he can't even reset faster than most classes so that is also false cleric druid wiz also heals faster bc they scale pots to heal more fighter has 2nd wind barb can use blood exchange potion chugger so rogue is just bad in general js i main rogue and can literally play every class in the game and not bad like very well and its def easier to play every other class lol like x3 more easier than if i played rogue it's an actual joke u quite literally die in 1 hit in very geared lobbies so no its really not that good in solo at high lvl also like u hp stack to 200 and a bear 1 shots u still so its completely pointless just play druid instead clearly iron mace only wants ppl to main support classes bc they are the most op classes in the game
@@brennanorr2 buddy put some periods in there, I got a headdache trying to read it
@@thespectaculartravo like the devs mindset towards actually balancing the game idgaf tell someone who cares
Rogue stonks 📈
Rogue bottom tier in all team play but we will still probably get nerfed again this season because others dont like rogues.
I cant tell you how many times 2 fighting teams will stop what their doing to gang up on a solo rogue.
People say rogues are whiny but the minute rogue is viable everyone bitches.
I remember when rogue took like 70% of health from one goblin hit.
Still does
yeah good times.. now it takes 80%
@@silversy9031 it’s not as bad now before you would get hit in the foot by a normal goblin and take 10 damage and then like 60 tick damage
@@hsqqq they lowerd the - magic res a long time ago but its kinda shit bc we also do no dmg i would of rather took 3/4 of my hp to poison to still be able to dps properly
Wonder how many times jay die to pfr fighter, warlock, or whatever only to show clips of winning fights
Lobster is expensive because of scarcity and it’s partially a status of wealth, kind of like caviar but to a lesser degree.
When it was more common it was given to prisoners but because of over fishing it’s now harder to catch leading to being more expensive.
theres no lack of lobster. the price of lobster was artificially inflated because of marketing strategies believe it or not. lobster is expensive literally because someone wanted to make it so. today the prices are going even higher though because of less people working in the lobster industry and the cost of oil is ridiculous too.
my ass thought you were talking about ppl in rubysilver gear at first
@@Dzyroth808 js lobster and crab is expensive bc they throw like half the catches back into the sea bc they Arnt quality and bc u have to manually empty the traps. Most of the sea food that is getting cheaper has a production method to produce it at higher rates by farming them almost like crops caviar is expensive now well only the roe from Stergion bc they were fished to almost extinction for the roe they produce making people who still supply the roe farm them in fish farms. Stergion takes like 30years or something crazy to fully grow so that is why Cavar is expensive and crabs and lobsters used to be food for prisoners back in the day people didn't know lobster started decaying as soon as it died, they would server day old lobster to people once a week bc anymore was considered inhumane treatment.
The PvP can be so mid in this game with all of the random buffing and nerfing of classes. I stay for the PvE with drunk friends
How to tell someone is shit at the game 😂 the copeium is reallll. it’s not pvp that’s mid… it’s you being mid that is the problem
@@venomous7321 cope harder
@@CharlieBrown-bh2pq instead of coping you and him should learn how to play the game. Couldn’t imagine only playing this game to kill the pve. That’s brain dead
@@venomous7321 Sounds like a League of Legends player to me. “The phrase it’s just a game is such a weak mindset.”
@@yournostromo7421 ah so you are stupid. Wonder when you are going to find out the people who play league play this game 😂
love you jay
Hills Rue
last season rogue got base 25 agi not another nerf from smoke weed cal IRONMACE rogue now have 21 base agi and some skill got another nerf to dead
The 4 agi was put into vigor, so now they have the same amount of hp as ranger
Rogue mains are seething in the comments 😂
is geared normals fun? ive wondered why dark and darker content has shifted from HR content to this, great plays and fantastic shots either way
its always been back and forth.
HR requires 225+ and a gold entrance fee. That along with mobs being more annoying a lot of people who just want to fight play geared normals instead
@@larewt There's no entrance fee
@@larewt its more like when u go hr people has some crazy bis and a lot of the time if ur like mid kitted its not even worth going into bc someone will have a 600 gs kit and u got 225 just trying to make it in and they will walk over u like you're a ant on the sidewalk lol honestly i haven't even been doing arena bc of the same thing they don't que u into a match of similar geared players and i don't like walking on people it feels dumb i want to pvp that is not pvp... like i would take gear off but u don't know who u even get matched up with so it's not like i can match their gear and have a fun fight...
First time after 130 hours of pure rogue play i took gear score under 124 it was 2/4 k gold kit somewhere like that … for 3 hours i claimed 40/50 ppl and thanks only to “headshots” if i land 1/2 headshots and rest bodyshots and go back and try crossbow+ knifes i have big chance that i take for 3 hits 2 headshots over 150 health but the cost is 2 taps from them.. and if they land headshot too im mostly done lol with rupture+ poison and my gear is mostly true magical dmg but still the amount of play i have to do + i simulate every cenario ahead sou i dont fuck this 1 and only moment for win” and i win mostly cuz ppl are braindead players and dont know shit… i lost that 4k kit to a bard that knew what he was doin very skilled he was but still rogue is garbage… every class is better but i refuse to play another class 😭 funny even tho i dont want to play pvp ppl will force it anyway
True.
I’m convinced half these comments didn’t watch the video. Talking about how weak rogue is.. rogue is fine with gear on, its weak in their 24gs lobbies they never leave 😂 Great video jay!
We don't have to watch the video. We literally play rogue and see how bad it's become.
It's so frustrating when people say stuff like Rogue is good with equipment because it shows that Rogues perks are weak which makes it dependent of equipment and then they act like it's okay.
@@NoHoEric what are you smoking bro, in what world should an invisible landmine ever be good without gear? What’s the counter play?
@@Farmer_Rick_Ross Remove Hide. Buff Rogue.
@@NoHoEric I’m totally alright with that
1. He was fighting timmies without gear while abusing 124 gs
2. Was able to kill only squishy, unaware players, he must run away from fighters and barbarians
2. He plays this game 24/7/365 so he doesn't represent skill level of average player
3. Enemies without headphones ( they always knew about the rogue, but they did everything to get killed as easily as possible )
4. NA region
5. none of the wizards use lightorbs to completely eliminate the rogues' stealth because they don't want to WASTE 1 spell slot out of 5 or even 10 while rogue can pick only one SKILL if hes using hide
5. Died to fighter as he had no weakpoint (unfortunately as a rogue you have to choose between rupture, cuthroat or weakpoint - cutthroat is better for killing wizards, weakpoint helps with PDR fighters and rupture is just 20dmg over 5 seconds so something like 4dmg per second (so its even worse than one wizard's zap) while a wizard can just throw a fireballs (1 fb direct does more than half hp to nearly every class and if u manage to direct headshot u can even 1 tap someone) at everyone and can throw four of them in 5seconds, as a rogue if you make a mistake with your skill you have to wait for cooldown to end which in most of the times ends with your teammates being dead as they need to 2v3)
6. Nearly got one shoted by mob (normal goblin takes half of your hp if he hit you and that can be very unlucky for you to get hitted mid fight or when you are running away with low hp)
7. 30% video rogue gameplay, 70% video wizard gameplay
8. Jay played pickpocket rogue 80% of his rogue carrier because its more viable way of getting loot out of enemy (jk and not kidding at the same time)
Rogue IS WEAK even when played by a top tier player as he must commit to melee fights with low hp/pdr/mdr/dmg only with the help of hide which only works on timmies.
btw barbarian can be as fast as rogue if hes using rage skill and is wearing lightfoot boots and loose trousers, fighter also can catch up easly with sprint skill so its very hard to kait them, also fighter has a fucking bow and 60% pdr so good luck kaiting this beast in this patch.
Sorry for my english and im sorry for rogue mains as they are constantly being rekt by every class.
BTW druid instant shapeshift and jump tech is getting out of control meanwhile rogue received few nerfs xd
womp womp brainless class
Rogue is not weak, only real challenge are pdr fighters even then u have weak point and armor pen, every other class is easy to kill as rogue. The game is supposed to be played as a team, rogues are meant to be the ones who kill the back line not face tank the tank class. They can easily kill the backline or weak point the front liner to guarantee kill them with a teammate. Use hide like rage instead of wasting it in a corner hoping for someone to pass by. Bait/dodge first or second attack and it’s a guaranteed kill on any class. I don’t understand how people think they are bad really makes me want to watch how an average players plays rogue.
@@noonegaming8685 ask yourself, what can rogue do that slayer fighter doesnt do better? even base rogue has less invis time than a base fighter with a grey invis pot. theres no reason to play rogue as it is when you can deal more dmg, have as much ms ( even more with sprint :OOOO), have better recovery, have better range, have better burst in most cases, and have more hp as fighter.
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Rogue takes advantage of opportunities.
- If both classes swing at the same time w/ low HP, Rogue wins.
- If both classes are running (except for Druid), Rogue wins.
- If Rogue's team is at advantage, he executes a class and it's a win.
But Rogue struggles at making their own opportunities, until you're at an advantage the Rogue is mostly useless.
Druid has kinda taken Rogue's spot as a dive 'n dip, execute 1 class.
Rogue mains when they can't just walk at anyone and 2 tap them: "waaaa class bad"
fighter main when he can tank 3000 face shots and not need to heal bc he's not even half 💀
@@brennanorr2 Nice try, I don't play fighter and I also agree fighter needs fat nerfs because that class is babied.
um yea? thats kinda the point if being a glass cannon class? die in 2 taps get kills in nearly as many?? rangers are literally insta killing with multishot, and wizards were nearly 1 tapping with fireball not long ago so like???
@@DrJesus-st9rk except they were nerfed for a reason XD
@cagxplays9602 they were nerfed into the ground bc ppl complaining not bc it was strong this is literally admitted by ironmace...
I was here.
Na ya trying to gaslight me into thinking rouge is bad I’ve been playing rouge for a long time I’m almost lvl 200 with rouge this season I think he’s in a balanced spot yea a he could use a buff in a few areas but overall he’s great at taking at the backline
Against most players it's great. Against experienced players it's useless 95% of the time, even if you're as or more experienced than them. Deception only goes so far.
More like great at taking back shots.
This is some pretty weak gameplay Jay. Feels like you were okay with uploading anything.
I know it's really the only way rogue can work well but invis rogue is so lame you just use it on cooldown until they don't realize you're using it and you get the jump.
I remember when rogue could 1 shot a fully stacked knight lmao
the good old days
And all the rogues in the discord would tell you it's a skill issue on your end you should've known he was there even though he never once stopped crouch walking
@@DilsGaming know how you counter a rouge land mine? keep your weapon out... every single melee class out brawls rouge in a heads up fight. the people who bitch about rouge are the ones dying with their torch out looting a goblin.
4:03 "Ranger is so broken" - KenKnobiTV
Full L take.
He's playing a class with the Lowest HP in Base kit in the entire game, even Rogue has more base HP.
Fighter can do the exact same thing the ranger did in this situation, except with Full Plate armor on so that when Jay rushed him he woulda just melee dueled.
I would rather be a 1 Perk (Weapon Mastery) fighter with Sprint & Second Wind, than to be a 4 Perk Ranger with any 2 Ranger Abilities, any day of the week.
Also I can almost guarantee Ken has done an Ignite Magic Staff build at least once, so he really can't complain about anything, let alone Rangers. :D
Ranger is the counter to warlock and wizard
rangers are not broken. not super fun to play against but not broken just dodge the arrow
rangers have always been broken, people just forgot/cant hit their shots and think its not
@@redbeardgaming4440you’re a tard😂😂😂
@@redbeardgaming4440 how do u want me to hit my shots when the sound cue lets people now when to exactly dodge my arrows
rondel dagger being the only viable weapon in the game, and rogues having more movespeed while no longer beig 1 tap to everything just makes this game so shit. just rogue bard fighter with rondel w key spam attack no skill or aiming required. this season sucks dick
rogue needs to head shot to kill u before u kill him with arms shots.... that is reality if u hit him, he would literally fold in half the fact that your complaining about rogue is a joke what u want him to heal u when he stabs u instead of doing no dmg?
@@brennanorr2 people complaining they got snuck up to point blank by a class with no better walking sound distance then any other class is telling. fighter can literally do the same thing and kill you faster lmao
the triggered rogues in the comments who are somehow bad at the most broken class in the game is hilarious xD
I don’t play rogue and they aren’t the most broken class. They have some broken abilities like hide and double jump, but Druid and warlock fundamentally break the game which is why I would consider them broken.
How can rogue be the most broken class? fighter is better with a dagger has plate 170+ hp is faster and has a heal
@@RinandStyxdouble jump is not broken, the extra 10 Ms is almost always better
@@robforskinstein I understand what you mean, I would still consider dj more broken as it changes the design of the game. A rogue with double jump can reach spots no other class can except Druid now, meaning they could just spam hand crossbow, wait for you to run before jumping down and if they chased you slow you back down and get in the spot. The ms is directly tied to hide so it’s strong but they can always nerf hide or the ms to fix it. You can nerf double jump into the ground and people will still take it for the ability to access new parts of the map unable to be reached before
@@RinandStyx it's only good on ruins tho for the most part. I do agree tho that it breaks the game. I still have yet to even see a rogue in my like 25 hours of playtime.
rogue play was pretty bad tho... ngl.
rogue is dead...druid is barely fun...remove crows FFS...
tell me u just sit in the dark to camp a free kill and have acutally no pvp skill without telling me
Check last repoze video from today about druid bro, u will see "barely fun" plays, that class is busted as fuck...
@@JamaRift a person considering druid not strong has to be braindead
@@Fuzzey-Gaming Why do u say that to me? My comment implies that the druid is really strong right now...
@@JamaRift i agreed brother dont know what youtube did to the comment but druid is busted. Only that 80% are to stupid to play. Most of them just Camp around