After well over a decade studying the story of the Titanic as a hobby I never once considered to factor in the weight of the engines offsetting some weight of the flooding slowing down the sinking. Mind blown 🤯 Thank you again for your videos.
Not how buoyancy works. The engines were dead weight. Along with the whole stern above the waterline. The stern and all it's contents and mass were not buoyant... They we're only pushing the bow into the water. Only the hull below the waterline creates buoyancy. Remember that. Only the part of the ship below the surface was creating positive buoyancy... The bow section was holding up the stern... Not the reverse. The stern was dead weight. Displacing no water, giving no buoyancy. It was not full of helium and creating magic lift. He has a misunderstanding of buoyancy and physics. The idea that the engines were the center of mass is not correct. The ship was designed to float on an even keel. All the coal, the boilers, the ballast, the engines, etc. were all along the keel... Balancing the ship. The engines were not "the heaviest point of the ship"... They were only the heaviest of they were removed... That's not how this works. The ship was very balanced, with the mass distributed evenly along its keel.. He takes his intuition.and based his ideas on those intuitions. Bad science.
But wouldn't the weight of the water in her bow have fgar outweighed the weight of her engines? And can you imagine the panic with no lights? Few if any people would have survived.
@@harrietharlow9929 of course all that water weighed more.. But the water in the Hull is the same density as the water outside the hull... Water doesn't sink in water... Water inside a boat doesn't pull the ship down.. Only the weight of the ship itself is heavier than the water. It's a lack of buoyancy that causes the sinking. The air leaves the ship.. Replaced by neutrally buoyant water.. Then the steel sinks... People need to stop thinking of the water as added weight.. That's not how buoyancy works.. The incoming water reduces the buoyancy, by pushing out the air..
Wonderful work here 🤗. It made me realize it could have been a lot worse without: - the crew who kept the power until the last moments - the wireless operators - the engine room workforce who emptied the steam to avoid boilers exploding - the crew who kept order on deck Imagine the dedication to their work even in the face of definite death. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Good stuff Sam. It's really refreshing to see "what if" and "speculation" videos that aren't full to the brim with bombastic claims and drama to entertain the grim outcomes with macabre graphics or punctuated word delivery. I remember my eyes rolling over the whole V-Break controversy and seeing how divisive it was making the Titanic community on youtube Even with a video discussing possible alternate scenario and a made-up timeline, you still manage to keep the video smart, interesting, tastefull and contemplatively refreshing without putting it into a tinfoil tailspin. You choose to highlight that what you're saying is in fact speculating and it comes off as very honest. That bit about the engine/water physics tug-o-war was fascinating and I've never considered or heard / read that anywhere before. That right there is a talent within itself, and a lost art among hosts and their personality. One we need more of. Keep it up! 🚢⚓
Thanks man! I try to approach this as scientific as possible. The story of the Titanic is interesting enough without throwing in a bunch of lies to get views. (Coal Fire) (Bright Side) etc
@@nepheshaish8160 Given they were completely stopped and the first distress call was 45 mins after impact...they probably arrive in time at the earliest to watch the stern rise and get everything prepared at 2:20 AM. This might save 100-200 lives extra...but still well under half. More realistically, if forced to take a similar route they actually did to dodge the bergs...they probably just replace the Carpathia and save the 709...maybe they split the difference. No changes...except Lord gets better press and dies a less depressed and harassed man.
@@Warriorcats64 I think your assessment would be pretty darn close to what I would predict. I mean a steam powered ship doesn't just get up and go when asked to. From idle to full steam, at best I would assume 30-60 minutes depending. So Californian hears the call and the wireless operator wakes captain Lord. Lord sends the order to wake the stokers and get the ship up to full steam, this is where 30-60 minutes takes for them to get under way. Meanwhile, under stand they are surrounded with pack ice, soooooo at best he can move 1-2 knots to crawl out of the pack ice (remember this is a liner not an ice breaker). Then once free in the moonless night, he will spend about an hour going the 13 miles from them to Titanic. So time relapse here: 45 minutes has passed since the ship struck ice (12:30am) message received and 45 minutes to get enough power (1:15am) before they move. Then I would assume due to frantic messages, maybe at best 30-45 minutes to move to Titanic from their position. This leaves Californian arriving between 2:00 and 230am. This is the absolute WORST moment to arrive. At that point they couldn't simply lower a bridge to the stern for it would be suicide, but rather they would watch from a distance and wait. The crew would NOT lower lifeboats because it would be suicide for those in the boats. They would have to wait until the ship is gone and then pull up nearby and fully stop the engines and lower the ropes over the side. It would be utter pandemonium getting people out of the water before they die, and not ONE of those folks in the water would be of sound mind. They would be in the dangerous state of "fight or flight." These are people willing to KILL someone to grab a rope, these are people willing to drown someone to grab a rope, and these are people willing to harm others in order to get out of the water first. To say the least, they would and could help pull more people out of the water after the "swarm" calmed down. This means more people could come out of hypothermia due to being placed in a warmer environment. Or they would have more life boats to simply pull the dead out of the water. Carpathia could simply take on passengers, whereas Californian could take on the dead.
@@markjensen7091 This does seem reasonable. A best case scenario would likely be the Californian arriving right around the time of the final plunge or in the aftermath shortly afterwards. In the British and American government inquiries after the sinking they took into account that the Californian took almost 2 1/2 hours after first spotting the Carpathia and Mount Temple to navigate the ice field to reach where Carpathia was and decided that in all probability had the Californian heard the distress call it would have arrived just shortly before Carpathia did as acrazyutuber13 mentioned. The Californian was exonerated legally but crucified in public opinion.
@@Warriorcats64 Californian only had a top speed of 13 knots. If she pushed like carpathia, since she was only some 10 miles away, Might have been arriving at 1:44-2:05
Really enjoy your postulations on the sinking and the "what if" scenarios you present. Well thought out and told without sounding pretentious. I'm over 40 and grew up with a heavy fascination about the ship and enjoy all the history surrounding it.
Another great video. I never thought about the engines being so heavy that it broke in half because of the "tug-of-war". Very interesting. Thanks for sharing your views.
Video idea: MV Doña Paz in the Pgilippines. Also known as "Asia's Titanic" in Dec 20th 1987 Only had a passenger capacity of 1,500 but 4,500 were fit in. Crashed with an oil tanker and burned the ship and the ocean around it due to the oil. Everyone either burnt inside or burnt in the water. Only 25 people survived.
Knowing what I know now? I would go find a family of non English speaking immigrants with lots of women and children. I would usher them up the lifeboat loading area (Murdoch’s side, as I am a man), pretend to be with them or working for them, and try to escape that way. Even if it didn’t work out for me, at least maybe I could save a family that didn’t know what to do.
He has actually answered this question a few times during his lives; he said he'd look for a sturdy and buoyant enough wood panel or similar and put together a makeshift raft
That tagged-on thought at the end is a very interesting idea to contemplate. I'm glad you added it. I guess it would depend on how much the pumps could handle. I'm dubious they could offset the volume involved, but that's just an uninformed feeling. Thanks for a thought-provoking video.
Great video as always ‼️ I've said it before that I like your videos, because a lot of them are things I've always been curious about or wondered what if on how certain things happened a lot of your videos explain it. 18.4k subscribers congratulations man you deserve it you're no doubt going to hit 20,000 subscribers in no time. It's been great to see your channel grow pretty fast.. 💯🔥
Super interesting video. I have always known more about Titanic than the average person and most of the videos on youtube with titles such as "10 things you did'n know about titanic" contain only stuff I've known for years OR contain mistakes/faksehoods. Its verry refreshing to have discovered your channel that comes up with reliable new stuff that makes me finally learn more about titanic or let me see things in a different perspective. Big fan of your work man. Keep up the good work !
Hello, Historic Travels. I have really been enjoying your Titanic content over the last month or so. I would be very interested to hear you cover other historical ships such as the Bismarck and the Costa Concordia, too. Keep up the good work.
You should absolutely work on ships. Your passion of this stuff is very intriguing. I bet most people who actually do this type of work don't have half of the knowledge and passion for it as you do. I think that you have found your niche. You owe it to yourself and others to pursue this type of career. I really mean that.
The wireless system had a standby engine - generator that was located on the roof that could have kept the wireless system at full power if necessary. I believe that parts of the wireless system such as the rotary break motor ran on alternating current that produced the Titanic's distinctive tone or note when she was transmitting this unit could not have been operated from battery power.
You are correct of course the problem with all of these systems as they were all powered by Steam so really the people working in the boiler rooms were the true heroes of the disaster they kept those boilers lit as long as humanly possible to provide steam to Oliver systems including the backup Dynamo Electric System that was located in the stern of the ship there was a secondary backup Dynamo steam power turbine room higher up in the stern of the ship that you could divert Steam from one of the boiler rooms to in the event that there was flooding in the engine room or some other failure with the main Dynamo system and this backup system would provide emergency power to the ship and power to the wireless set and in fact as the boiler rooms were compromised with flooding and the engine room became compromised with flooding they were able to get that emergency Dynamo system online and provide Power in the very last moments of Titanic's life and also it is the reason why the lights stayed on even after the ship broke apart because after she broke apart the thinking is that there was still enough steam pressure in that pipe system to keep that Dynamo running for a few seconds after the ship had broken to thus keeping those lights on in the stern for just a second or two there are numerous eyewitness accounts that say that the lights stayed on the stern even after the ship broke into for a couple seconds
One thing to keep in mind about a stern strike, the propeller shaft, if the initial damage seemed controlable to the point that the bridge figured to get underway agin, like they did historically, damage to the starboard propeller shaft or it's supports, when reengaged, may have caused extensive damage along the shaft alley, similar to the battleship Prince of Wales in December 1941. so while this may not have flooded more compartments, it may have flooded the damaged compartments much faster, due to damage of the seals around the propeller shafts, leading to the loss of power and stability much sooner
Here's something to ponder on Was The white star line chairman Bruce ismay also contributed towards the Titanic's sinking by pressuring captain Smith to push the ship harder to make the New York times headlines that actually cost people's lives.
There was a documentary way back in 1998 that said if Captain Smith kept all the watertight doors closed through out the flooding the Titanic would have capsized, the measures that Smith done was to keep the ship steady when she was sinking or otherwise if he didn't there would have been more lifes lost it would have been difficult to launch the lifeboats. Smith with Thomas Andrews help with the understanding of his ship saved more than what would have happened I mean in a difficult situation it was a great measure to take, the hope was to try and get passengers off safely until help eventually came but they knew there was still going to be a load of casualties which was sadly unavoidable.
Hey Sam can you do a video of what if the Titanic didn’t sink if the Titanic did have a long career at sea if it didn’t sink there is two options 1. The Titanic sold for scrap just like her sister Olympic 2. The Titanic becomes a floating museum or hotel like the Queen Marry
@@paulboger7377 I think I have to disagree with that because the Titanic is a ship that we all care about because we have the movies do fact the hole reason why the Titanic is historic ship because it is unsinkable for example the queen Mary in Long Beach was the biggest ship in world during her times as a ocean liner but she is not unsinkable like the Titanic is
your videos have rekindled my love of Titanic, thanks for making such a great channel!! can you recommend any good books about Titanic? or make a video about books, documentaries and good places to research about the history of Titanic?
The argument can also be made that the lights going out would have made everyone understand how grave the situation was at the start, giving them more time to plan a better evacuation
I love how your video titles are like: "What if Titanic had sunk sideways in a 36 degree angle?" "Could Titanic have survived if a donkey which was missing an ear was on board?" "Would Titanic have sunk had she hit a volcano instead of an iceberg?" "What happened to the floor board in the smoking lounge of the first class passengers after she split in half?" :D
I am glad I have good channels to watch. I agree if the ship has hit the berg at the stern, I agree since the engine was in the back it would have flooded and it would have been more like a zoo trying to get the entire ship evacuated. The 3rd class passengers probably would really have gone nuts trying to get off.
Here's a video idea: What were some factors on the night of the sinking that made this tragedy even worse. Eg The frigid, cold waters that resulted in hyperthermia, the insufficient amount of lifeboats, the decision to wait an hour before going back to rescue survivors, the fact that the Californian turned off their radio for the night etc. Your perspective should be fascinating.
Video suggestion: what would of happened if titanic still hit the iceberg but didn't sink, but still sustained damage and flooding, would they of still took her to new York and what would of happened/ what would of been the costs for repairs and how long would she of been out of use, thanks. Appreciate the hard work Sam, Brandon.
"As a result of observing Olympic in the storm, which turned out to be one of the worst of her career, Harland & Wolff decided to make a number of refinements, including changes to Number 1 Hatch. On 13 th. February 1912, Francis Carruthers, Ship Surveyor to the Board of Trade at Belfast, also reported that the shipbuilder was making changes to Titanic as a result of her older sister’s experience. They were fitting a one-inch-thick steel ‘strap’ on the port and starboard sides of the ship ‘in way of no.6 boiler room and extending three frame spaces forward of the watertight bulkhead at the forward end of the boiler room.’ The strap extended from frame 63 to frame 81 at the landing of strakes J and K, at the ‘upper turn of the bilge.’ At this area, the hull frames were spaced thirty-six inches apart (the furthest distance between frames throughout the entire ship)." ...... "the Board of Trade decided to take the opportunity to examine Olympic when she was drydocked for the replacement of a port propeller blade. Accordingly, Carruthers made a detailed inspection and reported on 6 March 1912. The Board were concerned that there might be other signs of stress, beyond the specific riveted joints which they knew were being modified. Carruthers’ report allayed those fears: Below the waterline starboard side forward in way of no. 6 boiler room in the shell landing of J & K strakes from frame 63 to 74, about 160 rivets were slack and were drilled out and & renewed." Board of Trade. Consultative Document LL No. 22818 refers. ruclips.net/video/ExYGQkgaNV4/видео.html 0:17:19 mins. in. !!!
I've always been a big Titanic fan great video. Have you ever thought of making a video about what life would have been like if the 1,500 people didn't die? And how do you get movie clips into your RUclips videos?
I want to second the excellent suggestion by Jesús López about doing a video on Carpathia's dramatic race to the scene of Titanic's sinking. It makes for a great story. Captain Arthur Rostron took quick and decisive action to get to the survivors and to ready his ship for them along the way. Capathia was a 14 knot ship, but the engine room crew managed the wring 17 knots out of her that morning. She was on the other side of the ice field from Titanic, but Captain Rostron maintained speed, dodging icebergs as they would loom ahead. I can only imagine what a glorious sight Carpathia must've been to those weary, shivering souls in the lifeboats, with all her lights blazing, firing rockets as she came... it's a great story, and I'd love to see your take on it.
Well, you forget one important part. At the back of the ship there was watertight bulkhead above the propelles shafts. So if titanic strike the iceberg by back, only less than half of the 4 aft compartments are floded. It is significantlly less water than in the front. If the engine room will be damaged propotionally to boiler room 5, then titanic main pumps would handle that. The fight begins in the generator and turbine room. If you lose it, you in big trouble, but since pumps are steam, not electric, there is a chance to save the ship even without power.
Hey Sam! So today I experimented a bit with the SS Gillet on Stormworks, and i did what u did: I put c4 on the right engine and then proceeded to detonate it. Everything was normal up untill the final plunge when the bow literally started spinning just like u anticipated, it was a fun experience.Also love ur content! ❤❤
Just an observation, I think a big part of the breakup happened at the expansion joint, with the water weight up front and engine weight in back finding that weak point.
Slight correction cause it was bugging me: Water, in this case, was not “heavy”. The water pouring into the ship didn’t drag her down. The water replaced air and decreased the buoyancy of the ship. Water did not weigh her down, her metal structure did. Water simply removed the air that was holding her up. Because water was the medium in which she was sitting, the water effectively weighed nothing. Water doesn’t sink in water.
If you also looked at the ships plans Also the reason why it sank and broke ,There was little extra resistance to save it because there were many dining rooms etc ,that contributed to the break up because of so little resistance
Morning Sam, I have a video idea What would happen if a team of subs tried to bring the wreck of titanic to the surface of the North Atlantic? 👍 Love your channel I learn so much about the ship I didn't know, have a great day.
Could you do a video about the holes or slits that sunk the titanic? A lot of people are still under the impression it was a 300 foot gash instead of small slits.
Video idea. Some minutes after the collision, Smith restarted the engines. The forward momentum most surely accelerated the flooding. Had he not done this, how much longer might she have stayed afloat?
Here's an idea for a video, what if the bulkhead doors were never closed or the water was carefully allowed to flood the length of the ship, would it have stabilised and not breached the bulkheads, allowing more weight to the rear might of kept the bow up
Lusitania lost power almost immediately after the torpedo struck. Trapping hundreds inside in the dark. Plus she sank in under 20 mins. Its a good comparison to what you are talking about in this video.
I have a suggestion for a vid and that is what if Titanic had maintained forward power instead of reversing the props. Would the improved rudder authority have increased the turn rate so it could have perhaps avoided the iceberg? Especially given the middle prop not doing anything.
I'm always wondering what if the B Deck didn't hold the bow and Stern section together so long after the beginning of the breakup. Maybe the sterns break-up area would not been pulled down under the water by the weight of the flooded bow so long and the Stern could've survived as it's own big lifeboat. If the watertight bulkhead between the reciprocating engine room (which was heavily damaged during the breakup) and the turbine engine room (which stayed intact as far as I know) stayed above the waterline and only the remains of the reciprocating engine room would've been flooded, maybe the stern had a chance to survive as a big lifeboat itself.
Now let's deal with the iceberg damage to the rear of the ship or the stern I'm trying to Envision a scenario where the iceberg doesn't damage the bow or front of the ship but somehow damages the rear of the ship? I guess if they didn't try to port round the iceberg and the rear of the ship continued to Skid into the iceberg I suppose that's how you could damage the rear of the ship, but we need to take into account a couple things about Titanic's watertight compartments system; Thomas Andrew had stated any two adjacent compartments could be completely flooded and the ship would stay afloat and the first four compartments of the ship could be completely flooded and the ship would stay afloat, now he did not speak to the last four compartments of the ship so if the iceberg damaged somehow magically only damaged the engine room and the turbine room then the ship would have been able to stay afloat, now flooding in the engine room although problematic would not be fatal remember all the pumps were located in the engine room! they could have simply turn on all the bilge pumps and suction pumps that were in the engine room and started rapidly discharging and pumping out that room and an earlier post I explained that the ship had a backup emergency steam-driven emergency backup electric Dynamo higher up in the stern so if the turbine room where the dynamos were located had been compromised they could have switched to that back up Dynamo in the stern and provide Power to her emergency lights and emergency systems-but the big question remains would the final compartments along propeller shaft tunnels that consumed the last very back of the ship would those compartments have been breached? And I say they would not have been breached-remember the shape of a ship is a double edge knife so the back of the stern of the ship cross-section is increasingly smaller than the then it's proceeding compartment so if the engine room and turbine room had taken the blunt of the force and collision of the iceberg it would have tore a significant enough of the iceberg off that the Stern section of the ship passed by the iceberg would not have protruded out enough to compromise those compartments and furthermore if you look at a model of the Titanic those last compartments the closest to the rudder of the ship those compartments are protected by the protruding housing of the propeller shaft and the boss arm that the protected the shaft and gave strength and rigidity to the hull, reduce vibration and made that shaft watertight, so any protruding ice left would have collided with the housing of that propeller shaft on the starboard side it would have damaged the shaft and certainly damage the propeller but it would have protected that precious Hull plating because it protruded out further than the hull and it would have acted as a shield... so you don't get six compartments opened up in this scenario I think the real problem would be is if any of the preceding boiler rooms would have been damaged and I think they probably would have been damaged in a sideswiping event that only hit the back part of the ship I don't think the damage would have started at the engine room because again if you look at the cross section of the Titanic the widest cross-section of the ship is where the boiler rooms are and then the ship starts narrowing as you get to the rudder so again I think her boiler rooms would have been opened up to the Sea anyway in this kind of a collision and yeah she would have sunk a lot faster because remember you could only have two adjacent compartments or boiler rooms open to the Sea before the ship would sink and you could have the first four forward compartments compromised because again if you look across section of the hall you see that the smallest surface area or displacement of the ship is at the very rear or Stern and at the very forward part of the bow because that's the thinnest part of the hall so either way if you open up Titanic any combination of more than two boiler rooms or combination Boiler Room engine room and she's going to sink because they clearly were the largest cross section of the ship and had the largest space in them
is there a video about the holes in the hull made by the iceberg and how they are keeping the ship from deteriorating more rapidly by being hidden under the ocean floor? that would be a great video. I believe if the holes were much higher up. Ater the ship landed on the floor, water with the micro bacteria would still be flowing in and out of the holes, eating up the steel quicker thus deteriorating the ship faster. explains how the ship is still there on the ocean floor 109yrs later.
Interesting what if video. There was a documentary I was watching on TV a long time ago talking about how the Titanic split in two. They we're curious if White Star Line made changes to Titanic's final sister the Britannic and which they discovered that Britannic's hull where the Titanic broke was reenforced to prevent Britannic from breaking in two. The Britannic is my favorite out of Titanic and the Olympic, though all three were unique ships of their time.
As we know, there was a safety line in the ship which made it possible to bend (originally there to make the ship bending without breaking the casco at high waves). It was around the section where the ship did break during the sinking. By report of a surviving officer (Lightoller if I'm right) the gap was wide open during the sinking which makes your theory the weight of the stern (combined with generator and motor) compensated the weight of the water in the bow very plausible. By sinking backwards, I'm not sure this wouldn't have caused breaking the ship, the bow would become an enormous airpocket trying to keep the bow above the waterline. Cracking at the safety line would be quitte possible. But I do follow you in the line the sinking would happened much quicker and with less survivors as in the ship would be pitchblack and the cabins of the passengers would have been flooded much earlier after hitting the iceberg.
It’s not the weight of water that causes the ship to sink. It’s the loss of buoyancy as water fills the void spaces. Lose enough buoyancy and the weight of the ship will pull itself down. After all, water basically “floats” in water. The water isn’t pulling the ship down.
One potential theory I thought of is what if Titanic hit the iceberg around the time that it sank in real life. If it hit the iceberg at 2:20am and took the same amount of time to sink, she would have sunk at 5:00am. Would that have made a difference in regards more survivors as it may not have been as cold etc?
Similar to this, but what would have happened if they did steer in time for the head to clear the iceberg but the stern clouted it before they could port round it? Also, regarding your theory at the end, I believe that Titanic could float with any 2 compartments breached or the first 4. So 4 compartments full elsewhere in the ship would sink it regardless. I believe it was designed to float with 2 breached because the worst damage at sea they could conceive was being struck by another ship right between two compartments. I assume the first 4 rule applies because the bow is narrower and thus the compartments hold less volume than the central ones, could also be to do with the centre of mass being towards the aft end as you correctly state.
Sam do you think the Titanic went vertical or listed heavily to port before it completely went under because a lot of the survivor witness testimonies are very mixed.
I also want to point out that if the pumps had failed the starboard list would have gotten worse and the ship could have possibly have capsized which would have been a big old game over moment which probably would have left under 100 people alive
How different would the collision be different if it happened during the day? I know it would be highly unlikely for them running into an iceberg during the day because of visibility but I would love a what-if scenario what if they had collided with the iceberg during the day
I can't remember if you have already touched on this because not only am I keeping up with all your videos but watching a tonne of others on Titanic lately too, but I have one thing that I am curious to know more about. The double hull break point, and if the break began from compression of the double hull (breaking it's back first) and then split up the ship, or did it break from the top down and then finally the double hull was last to break (as seen in the JC movie and his general theory on the sinking). Feels like it should be obvious but for some reason I can't get it straight in my head and so don't know which is more viable. The more I look into the position and break points of the double hull the more it confuses me lol. Any chance this is something you have looked into and come to a sound conclusion that you could share with us?
i think there might be a way to raise the titanic. if submarines dive to the wreck and start replacing some parts of the bow with new. (Not fast just slowly so it don't collapse) like that the ship will be strong enough to survive the raising and don't collapse when it reach the surfase. another idea is that they can put something to support the ship from the inside. or to remove the bacteria that's eating it. that's all the ideas i've got
After well over a decade studying the story of the Titanic as a hobby I never once considered to factor in the weight of the engines offsetting some weight of the flooding slowing down the sinking. Mind blown 🤯
Thank you again for your videos.
I just thought the same thing.
Not how buoyancy works. The engines were dead weight. Along with the whole stern above the waterline. The stern and all it's contents and mass were not buoyant... They we're only pushing the bow into the water.
Only the hull below the waterline creates buoyancy. Remember that.
Only the part of the ship below the surface was creating positive buoyancy... The bow section was holding up the stern... Not the reverse. The stern was dead weight. Displacing no water, giving no buoyancy. It was not full of helium and creating magic lift.
He has a misunderstanding of buoyancy and physics.
The idea that the engines were the center of mass is not correct. The ship was designed to float on an even keel. All the coal, the boilers, the ballast, the engines, etc. were all along the keel... Balancing the ship. The engines were not "the heaviest point of the ship"... They were only the heaviest of they were removed... That's not how this works. The ship was very balanced, with the mass distributed evenly along its keel..
He takes his intuition.and based his ideas on those intuitions. Bad science.
But wouldn't the weight of the water in her bow have fgar outweighed the weight of her engines? And can you imagine the panic with no lights? Few if any people would have survived.
@@harrietharlow9929 of course all that water weighed more.. But the water in the Hull is the same density as the water outside the hull... Water doesn't sink in water... Water inside a boat doesn't pull the ship down.. Only the weight of the ship itself is heavier than the water.
It's a lack of buoyancy that causes the sinking. The air leaves the ship.. Replaced by neutrally buoyant water.. Then the steel sinks...
People need to stop thinking of the water as added weight.. That's not how buoyancy works.. The incoming water reduces the buoyancy, by pushing out the air..
@@ryans9029 sounds like WITCHCRAFT to me!!!! Get a torch!!!!
Wonderful work here 🤗.
It made me realize it could have been a lot worse without:
- the crew who kept the power until the last moments
- the wireless operators
- the engine room workforce who emptied the steam to avoid boilers exploding
- the crew who kept order on deck
Imagine the dedication to their work even in the face of definite death. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Good stuff Sam. It's really refreshing to see "what if" and "speculation" videos that aren't full to the brim with bombastic claims and drama to entertain the grim outcomes with macabre graphics or punctuated word delivery. I remember my eyes rolling over the whole V-Break controversy and seeing how divisive it was making the Titanic community on youtube
Even with a video discussing possible alternate scenario and a made-up timeline, you still manage to keep the video smart, interesting, tastefull and contemplatively refreshing without putting it into a tinfoil tailspin. You choose to highlight that what you're saying is in fact speculating and it comes off as very honest. That bit about the engine/water physics tug-o-war was fascinating and I've never considered or heard / read that anywhere before. That right there is a talent within itself, and a lost art among hosts and their personality. One we need more of. Keep it up! 🚢⚓
Thanks man! I try to approach this as scientific as possible. The story of the Titanic is interesting enough without throwing in a bunch of lies to get views. (Coal Fire) (Bright Side) etc
Yeah bright side sayed titanic didn't hit a ice berg
@@mariasmall536 yea lol
Video idea: if you could warn anyone involved I.e. (Andrews,Captain Smith) who would you warn and when?
@@HistoricTravelswhat you taliking about brightside is totally the truth you are the lie 👍 (I’m joking
Video idea: what if the Californian heard Titanic's distress calls
This!!!!
@@nepheshaish8160 Given they were completely stopped and the first distress call was 45 mins after impact...they probably arrive in time at the earliest to watch the stern rise and get everything prepared at 2:20 AM. This might save 100-200 lives extra...but still well under half.
More realistically, if forced to take a similar route they actually did to dodge the bergs...they probably just replace the Carpathia and save the 709...maybe they split the difference. No changes...except Lord gets better press and dies a less depressed and harassed man.
@@Warriorcats64 I think your assessment would be pretty darn close to what I would predict. I mean a steam powered ship doesn't just get up and go when asked to. From idle to full steam, at best I would assume 30-60 minutes depending. So Californian hears the call and the wireless operator wakes captain Lord. Lord sends the order to wake the stokers and get the ship up to full steam, this is where 30-60 minutes takes for them to get under way. Meanwhile, under stand they are surrounded with pack ice, soooooo at best he can move 1-2 knots to crawl out of the pack ice (remember this is a liner not an ice breaker). Then once free in the moonless night, he will spend about an hour going the 13 miles from them to Titanic. So time relapse here: 45 minutes has passed since the ship struck ice (12:30am) message received and 45 minutes to get enough power (1:15am) before they move. Then I would assume due to frantic messages, maybe at best 30-45 minutes to move to Titanic from their position. This leaves Californian arriving between 2:00 and 230am. This is the absolute WORST moment to arrive.
At that point they couldn't simply lower a bridge to the stern for it would be suicide, but rather they would watch from a distance and wait. The crew would NOT lower lifeboats because it would be suicide for those in the boats. They would have to wait until the ship is gone and then pull up nearby and fully stop the engines and lower the ropes over the side. It would be utter pandemonium getting people out of the water before they die, and not ONE of those folks in the water would be of sound mind. They would be in the dangerous state of "fight or flight." These are people willing to KILL someone to grab a rope, these are people willing to drown someone to grab a rope, and these are people willing to harm others in order to get out of the water first. To say the least, they would and could help pull more people out of the water after the "swarm" calmed down. This means more people could come out of hypothermia due to being placed in a warmer environment. Or they would have more life boats to simply pull the dead out of the water. Carpathia could simply take on passengers, whereas Californian could take on the dead.
@@markjensen7091 This does seem reasonable. A best case scenario would likely be the Californian arriving right around the time of the final plunge or in the aftermath shortly afterwards. In the British and American government inquiries after the sinking they took into account that the Californian took almost 2 1/2 hours after first spotting the Carpathia and Mount Temple to navigate the ice field to reach where Carpathia was and decided that in all probability had the Californian heard the distress call it would have arrived just shortly before Carpathia did as acrazyutuber13 mentioned. The Californian was exonerated legally but crucified in public opinion.
@@Warriorcats64 Californian only had a top speed of 13 knots. If she pushed like carpathia, since she was only some 10 miles away, Might have been arriving at 1:44-2:05
Really enjoy your postulations on the sinking and the "what if" scenarios you present. Well thought out and told without sounding pretentious. I'm over 40 and grew up with a heavy fascination about the ship and enjoy all the history surrounding it.
Another great video. I never thought about the engines being so heavy that it broke in half because of the "tug-of-war". Very interesting. Thanks for sharing your views.
Video idea: MV Doña Paz in the Pgilippines. Also known as "Asia's Titanic" in Dec 20th 1987
Only had a passenger capacity of 1,500 but 4,500 were fit in. Crashed with an oil tanker and burned the ship and the ocean around it due to the oil. Everyone either burnt inside or burnt in the water. Only 25 people survived.
Don't forget that the fact that the Tablas Strait is shark infested too! As if things couldn't get any worse
Video idea: what would’ve you done if you were on the titanic when she was sinking?
Great question, I'm gonna copy and paste so hopefully he sees it!
Knowing what I know now? I would go find a family of non English speaking immigrants with lots of women and children. I would usher them up the lifeboat loading area (Murdoch’s side, as I am a man), pretend to be with them or working for them, and try to escape that way. Even if it didn’t work out for me, at least maybe I could save a family that didn’t know what to do.
He has actually answered this question a few times during his lives; he said he'd look for a sturdy and buoyant enough wood panel or similar and put together a makeshift raft
Hopefully i was a caepenter and i had my tools.. (I would make a kind of raft...)
I'm male and poor, so... I'd die.
The switch theory on Titanic and Olympic is a good video discussion with your knowledge and perspective.
I can’t stop watching your videos man lol, great job as always looking forward to the Edmund Fitzgerald video!
That tagged-on thought at the end is a very interesting idea to contemplate. I'm glad you added it. I guess it would depend on how much the pumps could handle. I'm dubious they could offset the volume involved, but that's just an uninformed feeling. Thanks for a thought-provoking video.
Great video as always ‼️
I've said it before that I like your videos, because a lot of them are things I've always been curious about or wondered what if on how certain things happened a lot of your videos explain it.
18.4k subscribers congratulations man you deserve it you're no doubt going to hit 20,000 subscribers in no time.
It's been great to see your channel grow pretty fast..
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Super interesting video. I have always known more about Titanic than the average person and most of the videos on youtube with titles such as "10 things you did'n know about titanic" contain only stuff I've known for years OR contain mistakes/faksehoods. Its verry refreshing to have discovered your channel that comes up with reliable new stuff that makes me finally learn more about titanic or let me see things in a different perspective. Big fan of your work man. Keep up the good work !
Hello, Historic Travels. I have really been enjoying your Titanic content over the last month or so. I would be very interested to hear you cover other historical ships such as the Bismarck and the Costa Concordia, too. Keep up the good work.
You should absolutely work on ships. Your passion of this stuff is very intriguing. I bet most people who actually do this type of work don't have half of the knowledge and passion for it as you do. I think that you have found your niche. You owe it to yourself and others to pursue this type of career. I really mean that.
dangg why you gotta go live right before I go to work😂 at least I have something to look forward to
What if the Titanic hit TWO icebergs!?
I'm just teasing. I love the content. These what-ifs are a lot of fun and reveal a lot of lessons learned.
The wireless system had a standby engine - generator that was located on the roof that could have kept the wireless system at full power if necessary. I believe that parts of the wireless system such as the rotary break motor ran on alternating current that produced the Titanic's distinctive tone or note when she was transmitting this unit could not have been operated from battery power.
You are correct of course the problem with all of these systems as they were all powered by Steam so really the people working in the boiler rooms were the true heroes of the disaster they kept those boilers lit as long as humanly possible to provide steam to Oliver systems including the backup Dynamo Electric System that was located in the stern of the ship there was a secondary backup Dynamo steam power turbine room higher up in the stern of the ship that you could divert Steam from one of the boiler rooms to in the event that there was flooding in the engine room or some other failure with the main Dynamo system and this backup system would provide emergency power to the ship and power to the wireless set and in fact as the boiler rooms were compromised with flooding and the engine room became compromised with flooding they were able to get that emergency Dynamo system online and provide Power in the very last moments of Titanic's life and also it is the reason why the lights stayed on even after the ship broke apart because after she broke apart the thinking is that there was still enough steam pressure in that pipe system to keep that Dynamo running for a few seconds after the ship had broken to thus keeping those lights on in the stern for just a second or two there are numerous eyewitness accounts that say that the lights stayed on the stern even after the ship broke into for a couple seconds
Love the videos man keep up the good work ill allways give them a like!
These “what if” videos are amazing, thank you.
I really enjoyed your recommended video Titanic in her own words that was an amazing video
One thing to keep in mind about a stern strike, the propeller shaft, if the initial damage seemed controlable to the point that the bridge figured to get underway agin, like they did historically, damage to the starboard propeller shaft or it's supports, when reengaged, may have caused extensive damage along the shaft alley, similar to the battleship Prince of Wales in December 1941. so while this may not have flooded more compartments, it may have flooded the damaged compartments much faster, due to damage of the seals around the propeller shafts, leading to the loss of power and stability much sooner
this was so interesting!! the going down faster and how she split part never occurred to me in terms of the engines. That's awesome!
SS Frankfurt was the first ship to Respond to Titanic s CQD messages) But they didn't Understand cos they were a German Ship
Wrong.
@@nic9954 he is right search it up
@@RaccoonPanda01 The "They didnt understand" part is wrong. The rest is correct.
@@nic9954 ohh sorry 😐
Sam yes lad!!!! All the way through this video I was like ‘ the pumps!!!!’
You sir are brilliant
haha thanks what do you mean?
I completely agree with that theory. Where the engines helped stability of the ship with all that water in front. Makes plenty of sense!
Your videos teach me a lot about ships
Here's something to ponder on Was The white star line chairman Bruce ismay also contributed towards the Titanic's sinking by pressuring captain Smith to push the ship harder to make the New York times headlines that actually cost people's lives.
It’s unhealthy how obsessed I am with this ship lol
I watched until the last second. That would be a great theory video. I think it can be a popular one for you
What if her maiden voyage wasn't delayed and she would have set sail on the original date in March? 🤷🏻♀️ #Iguesswewillneverknow
wed probably never have heard of titanic beyond being a sister ship to britanic
This is a really interesting what if!
Another fantastic "what if" video! Looking forward to the Fitzgerald video! Keep up the great work! 😁
Idea: Was Titanic Cursed?
It was
Answer: No.
Can't wait for the Edmund Fitzgerald video. Loving your other Titanic videos. Quite informative
Video ideas
what if titanic had not hit the iceberg or what if it sank like the britannic btw love the videos
There was a documentary way back in 1998 that said if Captain Smith kept all the watertight doors closed through out the flooding the Titanic would have capsized, the measures that Smith done was to keep the ship steady when she was sinking or otherwise if he didn't there would have been more lifes lost it would have been difficult to launch the lifeboats. Smith with Thomas Andrews help with the understanding of his ship saved more than what would have happened I mean in a difficult situation it was a great measure to take, the hope was to try and get passengers off safely until help eventually came but they knew there was still going to be a load of casualties which was sadly unavoidable.
Hey Sam can you do a video of what if the Titanic didn’t sink if the Titanic did have a long career at sea if it didn’t sink there is two options
1. The Titanic sold for scrap just like her sister Olympic
2. The Titanic becomes a floating museum or hotel like the Queen Marry
I'd say 1. The ship was worth more as scrap then a museum/hotel.
@@paulboger7377 I think I have to disagree with that because the Titanic is a ship that we all care about because we have the movies do fact the hole reason why the Titanic is historic ship because it is unsinkable for example the queen Mary in Long Beach was the biggest ship in world during her times as a ocean liner but she is not unsinkable like the Titanic is
@@drewadventurehistory, I was thinking on how much it would cost to maintain her as such.
@@paulboger7377 well how did it cost to build the Titanic
your videos have rekindled my love of Titanic, thanks for making such a great channel!! can you recommend any good books about Titanic? or make a video about books, documentaries and good places to research about the history of Titanic?
Another great video! Love your analysis.
Historic Travels: That's why so many people survived when the Titanic sank
Me: wait WHAT
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!
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Super interesting! I also considered that the break wouldnt have happened, and then you went on to say the same thing.
The argument can also be made that the lights going out would have made everyone understand how grave the situation was at the start, giving them more time to plan a better evacuation
I love how your video titles are like:
"What if Titanic had sunk sideways in a 36 degree angle?"
"Could Titanic have survived if a donkey which was missing an ear was on board?"
"Would Titanic have sunk had she hit a volcano instead of an iceberg?"
"What happened to the floor board in the smoking lounge of the first class passengers after she split in half?"
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One week I see this channel at 6k, next thing you know it, it is at 18k. I am beyond impressed. 👏
I am glad I have good channels to watch. I agree if the ship has hit the berg at the stern, I agree since the engine was in the back it would have flooded and it would have been more like a zoo trying to get the entire ship evacuated. The 3rd class passengers probably would really have gone nuts trying to get off.
Here's a video idea: What were some factors on the night of the sinking that made this tragedy even worse. Eg The frigid, cold waters that resulted in hyperthermia, the insufficient amount of lifeboats, the decision to wait an hour before going back to rescue survivors, the fact that the Californian turned off their radio for the night etc. Your perspective should be fascinating.
Video suggestion: what would of happened if titanic still hit the iceberg but didn't sink, but still sustained damage and flooding, would they of still took her to new York and what would of happened/ what would of been the costs for repairs and how long would she of been out of use, thanks. Appreciate the hard work Sam, Brandon.
"As a result of observing Olympic in the storm, which turned out to be one of the worst of her career, Harland & Wolff decided to make a number of refinements, including changes to Number 1 Hatch. On 13 th. February 1912, Francis Carruthers, Ship Surveyor to the Board of Trade at Belfast, also reported that the shipbuilder was making changes to Titanic as a result of her older sister’s experience. They were fitting a one-inch-thick steel ‘strap’ on the port and starboard sides of the ship ‘in way of no.6 boiler room and extending three frame spaces forward of the watertight bulkhead at the forward end of the boiler room.’ The strap extended from frame 63 to frame 81 at the landing of strakes J and K, at the ‘upper turn of the bilge.’ At this area, the hull frames were spaced thirty-six inches apart (the furthest distance between frames throughout the entire ship)."
...... "the Board of Trade decided to take the opportunity to examine Olympic when she was drydocked for the replacement of a port propeller blade. Accordingly, Carruthers made a detailed inspection and reported on 6 March 1912. The Board were concerned that there might be other signs of stress, beyond the specific riveted joints which they knew were being modified. Carruthers’ report allayed those fears: Below the waterline starboard side forward in way of no. 6 boiler room in the shell landing of J & K strakes from frame 63 to 74, about 160 rivets were slack and were drilled out and & renewed."
Board of Trade. Consultative Document LL No. 22818 refers.
ruclips.net/video/ExYGQkgaNV4/видео.html 0:17:19 mins. in. !!!
I've always been a big Titanic fan great video. Have you ever thought of making a video about what life would have been like if the 1,500 people didn't die? And how do you get movie clips into your RUclips videos?
I want to second the excellent suggestion by Jesús López about doing a video on Carpathia's dramatic race to the scene of Titanic's sinking. It makes for a great story. Captain Arthur Rostron took quick and decisive action to get to the survivors and to ready his ship for them along the way. Capathia was a 14 knot ship, but the engine room crew managed the wring 17 knots out of her that morning. She was on the other side of the ice field from Titanic, but Captain Rostron maintained speed, dodging icebergs as they would loom ahead.
I can only imagine what a glorious sight Carpathia must've been to those weary, shivering souls in the lifeboats, with all her lights blazing, firing rockets as she came... it's a great story, and I'd love to see your take on it.
Well, you forget one important part. At the back of the ship there was watertight bulkhead above the propelles shafts. So if titanic strike the iceberg by back, only less than half of the 4 aft compartments are floded. It is significantlly less water than in the front. If the engine room will be damaged propotionally to boiler room 5, then titanic main pumps would handle that. The fight begins in the generator and turbine room. If you lose it, you in big trouble, but since pumps are steam, not electric, there is a chance to save the ship even without power.
Hey Sam! So today I experimented a bit with the SS Gillet on Stormworks, and i did what u did: I put c4 on the right engine and then proceeded to detonate it. Everything was normal up untill the final plunge when the bow literally started spinning just like u anticipated, it was a fun experience.Also love ur content! ❤❤
I hadn't considered the weight of the boilers before. Realization moment!
Just an observation, I think a big part of the breakup happened at the expansion joint, with the water weight up front and engine weight in back finding that weak point.
Slight correction cause it was bugging me: Water, in this case, was not “heavy”. The water pouring into the ship didn’t drag her down. The water replaced air and decreased the buoyancy of the ship. Water did not weigh her down, her metal structure did. Water simply removed the air that was holding her up. Because water was the medium in which she was sitting, the water effectively weighed nothing. Water doesn’t sink in water.
Excellent analysis! :)
I enjoy all of your videos. Thank you for keeping this up!
Video idea. USS Maine, there is a ton of history there that could be explored. Thanks
I love your channel
If you also looked at the ships plans Also the reason why it sank and broke ,There was little extra resistance to save it because there were many dining rooms etc ,that contributed to the break up because of so little resistance
Even tho it takes 2hr40min to sank. It had so much story too tell. One of the reason james Cameron choose this ship for the movie.
Great content! Love it man :)
I love your videos a lot
Morning Sam, I have a video idea
What would happen if a team of subs tried to bring the wreck of titanic to the surface of the North Atlantic? 👍 Love your channel I learn so much about the ship I didn't know, have a great day.
Video idea. What if titanic capsized?
New subscriber here! Love the theories and logical explanations!
That is one hell of a thumb. 0:17
Could you do a video about the holes or slits that sunk the titanic? A lot of people are still under the impression it was a 300 foot gash instead of small slits.
Video idea: what is your opinion on the Titanic 2 being built and if it even should.
The main factor in the sinking of the Titanic was also its weight also the size of the ship actually helped avoid the inevitable for a Time
Video idea. Some minutes after the collision, Smith restarted the engines. The forward momentum most surely accelerated the flooding. Had he not done this, how much longer might she have stayed afloat?
Here's an idea for a video, what if the bulkhead doors were never closed or the water was carefully allowed to flood the length of the ship, would it have stabilised and not breached the bulkheads, allowing more weight to the rear might of kept the bow up
Lusitania lost power almost immediately after the torpedo struck. Trapping hundreds inside in the dark. Plus she sank in under 20 mins. Its a good comparison to what you are talking about in this video.
How much longer could have the Titanic stayed afloat if she stayed in full reverse. Just thinking.... Another great video.
I have a suggestion for a vid and that is what if Titanic had maintained forward power instead of reversing the props. Would the improved rudder authority have increased the turn rate so it could have perhaps avoided the iceberg? Especially given the middle prop not doing anything.
I'm always wondering what if the B Deck didn't hold the bow and Stern section together so long after the beginning of the breakup. Maybe the sterns break-up area would not been pulled down under the water by the weight of the flooded bow so long and the Stern could've survived as it's own big lifeboat. If the watertight bulkhead between the reciprocating engine room (which was heavily damaged during the breakup) and the turbine engine room (which stayed intact as far as I know) stayed above the waterline and only the remains of the reciprocating engine room would've been flooded, maybe the stern had a chance to survive as a big lifeboat itself.
Now let's deal with the iceberg damage to the rear of the ship or the stern I'm trying to Envision a scenario where the iceberg doesn't damage the bow or front of the ship but somehow damages the rear of the ship? I guess if they didn't try to port round the iceberg and the rear of the ship continued to Skid into the iceberg I suppose that's how you could damage the rear of the ship, but we need to take into account a couple things about Titanic's watertight compartments system; Thomas Andrew had stated any two adjacent compartments could be completely flooded and the ship would stay afloat and the first four compartments of the ship could be completely flooded and the ship would stay afloat, now he did not speak to the last four compartments of the ship so if the iceberg damaged somehow magically only damaged the engine room and the turbine room then the ship would have been able to stay afloat, now flooding in the engine room although problematic would not be fatal remember all the pumps were located in the engine room! they could have simply turn on all the bilge pumps and suction pumps that were in the engine room and started rapidly discharging and pumping out that room and an earlier post I explained that the ship had a backup emergency steam-driven emergency backup electric Dynamo higher up in the stern so if the turbine room where the dynamos were located had been compromised they could have switched to that back up Dynamo in the stern and provide Power to her emergency lights and emergency systems-but the big question remains would the final compartments along propeller shaft tunnels that consumed the last very back of the ship would those compartments have been breached? And I say they would not have been breached-remember the shape of a ship is a double edge knife so the back of the stern of the ship cross-section is increasingly smaller than the then it's proceeding compartment so if the engine room and turbine room had taken the blunt of the force and collision of the iceberg it would have tore a significant enough of the iceberg off that the Stern section of the ship passed by the iceberg would not have protruded out enough to compromise those compartments and furthermore if you look at a model of the Titanic those last compartments the closest to the rudder of the ship those compartments are protected by the protruding housing of the propeller shaft and the boss arm that the protected the shaft and gave strength and rigidity to the hull, reduce vibration and made that shaft watertight, so any protruding ice left would have collided with the housing of that propeller shaft on the starboard side it would have damaged the shaft and certainly damage the propeller but it would have protected that precious Hull plating because it protruded out further than the hull and it would have acted as a shield... so you don't get six compartments opened up in this scenario I think the real problem would be is if any of the preceding boiler rooms would have been damaged and I think they probably would have been damaged in a sideswiping event that only hit the back part of the ship I don't think the damage would have started at the engine room because again if you look at the cross section of the Titanic the widest cross-section of the ship is where the boiler rooms are and then the ship starts narrowing as you get to the rudder so again I think her boiler rooms would have been opened up to the Sea anyway in this kind of a collision and yeah she would have sunk a lot faster because remember you could only have two adjacent compartments or boiler rooms open to the Sea before the ship would sink and you could have the first four forward compartments compromised because again if you look across section of the hall you see that the smallest surface area or displacement of the ship is at the very rear or Stern and at the very forward part of the bow because that's the thinnest part of the hall so either way if you open up Titanic any combination of more than two boiler rooms or combination Boiler Room engine room and she's going to sink because they clearly were the largest cross section of the ship and had the largest space in them
That’s very clever, to guess that the weight of the engines kept the ship from sinking sooner.
Video Idea: What would have happened if the water tight doors were left open?
is there a video about the holes in the hull made by the iceberg and how they are keeping the ship from deteriorating more rapidly by being hidden under the ocean floor? that would be a great video. I believe if the holes were much higher up. Ater the ship landed on the floor, water with the micro bacteria would still be flowing in and out of the holes, eating up the steel quicker thus deteriorating the ship faster. explains how the ship is still there on the ocean floor 109yrs later.
Video idea: what if, after first spotting the iceberg, Titanic had turned towards it rather than away from it?
Thank you Sam.
Interesting what if video. There was a documentary I was watching on TV a long time ago talking about how the Titanic split in two. They we're curious if White Star Line made changes to Titanic's final sister the Britannic and which they discovered that Britannic's hull where the Titanic broke was reenforced to prevent Britannic from breaking in two. The Britannic is my favorite out of Titanic and the Olympic, though all three were unique ships of their time.
As we know, there was a safety line in the ship which made it possible to bend (originally there to make the ship bending without breaking the casco at high waves). It was around the section where the ship did break during the sinking. By report of a surviving officer (Lightoller if I'm right) the gap was wide open during the sinking which makes your theory the weight of the stern (combined with generator and motor) compensated the weight of the water in the bow very plausible.
By sinking backwards, I'm not sure this wouldn't have caused breaking the ship, the bow would become an enormous airpocket trying to keep the bow above the waterline. Cracking at the safety line would be quitte possible. But I do follow you in the line the sinking would happened much quicker and with less survivors as in the ship would be pitchblack and the cabins of the passengers would have been flooded much earlier after hitting the iceberg.
Cape Hattaras lighthouse in NC received its distress signal.
You don't talk about the fact all the bulkheads at the back of the ship go to D Deck and that would have slowed the flooding for sure!
It’s not the weight of water that causes the ship to sink. It’s the loss of buoyancy as water fills the void spaces. Lose enough buoyancy and the weight of the ship will pull itself down. After all, water basically “floats” in water. The water isn’t pulling the ship down.
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One potential theory I thought of is what if Titanic hit the iceberg around the time that it sank in real life. If it hit the iceberg at 2:20am and took the same amount of time to sink, she would have sunk at 5:00am. Would that have made a difference in regards more survivors as it may not have been as cold etc?
Similar to this, but what would have happened if they did steer in time for the head to clear the iceberg but the stern clouted it before they could port round it?
Also, regarding your theory at the end, I believe that Titanic could float with any 2 compartments breached or the first 4. So 4 compartments full elsewhere in the ship would sink it regardless. I believe it was designed to float with 2 breached because the worst damage at sea they could conceive was being struck by another ship right between two compartments. I assume the first 4 rule applies because the bow is narrower and thus the compartments hold less volume than the central ones, could also be to do with the centre of mass being towards the aft end as you correctly state.
The hull, as you described it, was not visible near smoke stack #3. Not sure what you meant during that animation @ 8:23
Sam do you think the Titanic went vertical or listed heavily to port before it completely went under because a lot of the survivor witness testimonies are very mixed.
I also want to point out that if the pumps had failed the starboard list would have gotten worse and the ship could have possibly have capsized which would have been a big old game over moment which probably would have left under 100 people alive
How different would the collision be different if it happened during the day? I know it would be highly unlikely for them running into an iceberg during the day because of visibility but I would love a what-if scenario what if they had collided with the iceberg during the day
I can't remember if you have already touched on this because not only am I keeping up with all your videos but watching a tonne of others on Titanic lately too, but I have one thing that I am curious to know more about. The double hull break point, and if the break began from compression of the double hull (breaking it's back first) and then split up the ship, or did it break from the top down and then finally the double hull was last to break (as seen in the JC movie and his general theory on the sinking). Feels like it should be obvious but for some reason I can't get it straight in my head and so don't know which is more viable. The more I look into the position and break points of the double hull the more it confuses me lol. Any chance this is something you have looked into and come to a sound conclusion that you could share with us?
Video idea: Compare the Wreck of the Titan with the sinking of the Titanic.
i think there might be a way to raise the titanic. if submarines dive to the wreck and start replacing some parts of the bow with new. (Not fast just slowly so it don't collapse) like that the ship will be strong enough to survive the raising and don't collapse when it reach the surfase. another idea is that they can put something to support the ship from the inside.
or to remove the bacteria that's eating it. that's all the ideas i've got