As a backpacker for 60 years I've always been a fan of boots. This past year, against my better judgement, I went with trailrunners on a particularly arduous section of the PCT. I slipped and fell on a narrow catwalk on a steep slope and broke my ankle. Lesson learned. I will return to my trusty, supportive, and waterproof Salomon boots.
To boot or not to boot. That's the same thing with me. Although I would not like carrying the extra weight, I might actually wear my boots and carry a pair of trail runners. We met the lady who completed the FKT going South on the PCT this year. She hiked in two different pairs of shoes because she said each one had its own peculiar pinch points, and by switching shoes her feet stayed relatively fresh. She got me thinking. I like trail runners in the desert, or through Oregon, but I wish I had boots during the rockier Sierra/Yosemite sections and in part of Washington.
I hiked for years in my trusty Kastinger, Austrian-made leather waterproof boots. I have bad ankles, and I can still use those Kastingers. I don't hop like a gazelle like I used to, BUT, I am stable and my ankles are held firm.
A bidet for sure. Absolutely a game changer: Have a good wash. You are just cleaner and fresher with it. 'nuff said. My favorite pee bottle: a Krogers 16oz roasted peanut jar. Light, with a big enough opening, big enough volume, and a ridge that can be held with a bungee outside the pack. Perfect.
Hello from Alaska. I love connecting with outdoorsman from across the globe. Congrats on staying active at 73. I hope to be doing the same one day. I met a 70-year-old through hiker on the PCT this past summer. His trail name was Way Back, because as he said, "I go way back." Very cool person.
I am 66, hiking a lot. 100% wild camping. Chairs didn't work for me, very unstable on the ground, so I use Therm-a-rest trekking chair which works with sleeping pad, this way I can sit outside or inside my tent. Pee bottle is absolutely essential. Last thing I want to do is to get out of my tent in the dark of the night, or in rainstorm, or snowstorm in winter. The best one I found and use for many years is Nalgene Cantene collapsible bottle. I always hike in boots. My hikes are in wilderness, mostly in Norway and Scotland. Any foot injury is a giant problem. If I hurt my arm, shoulder, even back, I can still walk to safety. With injured feet I am a toast. Don't really understand all this hoopla with hiking in runners. My boots are hardly heavier than sneakers, but give me so much better protection. Be safe. Thanks for the video.
Congrats on your hiking longevity. That's awesome. I appreciate your advice about a thermarest trekking chair. I'll try to explain the hoopla about trail runners. They are very light, and when folks are trying to crank out the miles in the desert section of the PCT or in Oregon, they can seem like the optimal choice. Boots, like you say, that come up to the ankle, are getting pretty light. The one downside I see with boots is I don't like hiking in waterproof boots because if you soak them they're hard to get dry and that increases the risk of blisters. However, I hike in both trail runners and my Merrell Moabs. I'm having a tough time trying to decide which pair to take on the Colorado Trail next summer. I'll leave it up to my feet.
Yeah, I got that about runners. If I have a choice between slightly lighter shoes or better foot protection, I go with the later. Just my 2c. I have Merrell Moabs and use them for regular travel, they are good for cobblestone streets in Europe, but way too heavy for hiking. Here are a few boot/shoes I like: La Sportiva Wildcat Trail-Running Shoes(excellent grip and ground protection); La Sportiva Nucleo High II GTX Hiking Boots; La Sportiva Ultra Raptor II Mid GTX Hiking Boots. Most of my hikes are above tree line, but these will work everywhere. Be well. @@akwild1
My son has brought a backpacking chair on our last few trips. It seemed kinda silly to me at first, but I've spent many hours hunched over sitting on an uncomfortable rock, jealously admiring that chair...
Good lists. I don't use all of these items myself but people should still think through the list of these items to see what works for them. One additional suggestion that has made a significant improvement for me: regularly sipping electrolytes while hiking. Not necessarily a "gear" item, but this has helped me drink much more water during the day and I feel much better each night as a result.
Hi AKwild1 duo. I've read through all the comments so far and it appears I'm the first here to mention a common phrase: "a pound on your feet equals five pounds on your back." It's from an Army study in the 80's and the physics have been verified over the subsequent years. Ankle support from a heavier boot may benefit many, however for me (and maybe Flash too) I choose the best of the lightest footwear available (a trail shoe) and focus separately on ankle strength and flexibility with exercise. Thank you again for such helpful content. I'm such a fan!
That's an awesome insight. Didn't Sir Edmund Hillary also say something to that effect? Flash agrees with you, Jennifer, and she is working on strengthening her ankles before and after hiking. I think one solid benefit of trail runners is they do dry out more quickly than boots, and hiking in soggy footwear can cause blisters. Happy Trails, and thank you for your encouraging words.
I know it's what works for you that counts, but whilst I understand people's views on the topic of trail runners Vs boots, even some of my most respected hiking RUclipsrs are repeating incorrect or out-of-date information on this topic. Please have a look at GearSkeptic Backpacking Fact checker video on shoe weight. He goes into great detail on the army study, current boot weights and speed you need to be walking to make a significant difference. For me, it's (lightweight) boots all day long for the kind of terrain I'm hiking in but, like I said, it's what works for you that counts.
I've always liked footwear with ankle support. I live in Alberta near the Rockies. It's always good to have that extra support on irregular terrain. Since I began hunting in 2020, I've hiked in 8" uninsulated hunting boots for summer. They're not hot and have wonderful support. I can definitely see the value of the pee bottle. I never want to go outside in pitch dark in grizzly country. My camping isn't light backpacking so I use the 5 gal luggable loo in the tipi. The woodstove doubles as my campfire if I'm alone in 🐻 country at night. I'm glad I stumbled on your channel. I'm turning 50 this year and look forward to drawing on the experience of others to help my decisions as I age. I will never tire of going outdoors, camping and hiking.
It sounds like you live in beautiful country. What I carry hunting, or rafting, is pretty different from what I carry on backpacking trips. However, since I took up backpacking, I've noticed I am going lighter on my hunting and rafting trips. It's nice to simplify. Many people on this channel love the outdoors so much and are looking for ways to continue these experiences as they age. Happy Trails!
Thanks a lot for sharing this video. In my opinion the best equipment is the equipment you leave at home. A chair is a nice to have, but for me a small peace of and old foam mat is enough. I always find a stone or a tree stump were i can sit. Indeed a bidet can be helpfull. I lived a long time in asia and they found that toilet paper is unhygienik. If u clean with water and dry with toiletpaper, it is really clean. And also if you sweat, the underwear keeps clean. With trecking shoes i a agree to you. I try to avoid boots. I wish you all the best from Germany
Yes, I too have to focus on leaving behind things that would be nice to have. My camera gear seems to get heavier with each new trip, and I need to cut weigh somewhere. Thank you for watching.
I'm 67 and wore Merrill "Moab" mids for my thru hike of the PCT in 2020. I experimented with a number of lighter trail runners and nothing else gave me the same level of comfort and support. I never has any foot issues on trail.
Thanks for the suggestions! You may want to check out the gear skeptics video on moisture in sleeping pads. Overall, it looks like it just isn't a problem. Take care and keep the videos comming.
Thank you. I had heard the moisture was a problem, but then again, my thermarest survived me breathing into it for the entire PCT, and is still going strong. It seems like the moisture isn't a problem.
Awesome! I just bought a bidet (the one from your pictures) as well as a cork ball. I haven’t used them yet, but they’ll be a part of my backpacking this summer so we’ll see how they go. I always wear good boots for my backpacking, but they’re heavy and not very knee friendly for the huge miles, so my thoughts are I’ll go with trail runners when I attempt the PCT.
Thanks Glen. The trail runner or boot decision is one I have to make for our Colorado Trail trip. I think I'll just keep switching between the two during my training hikes, and settle on which pair seems most comfortable. It seems each year, my feet and knees behave differently for some reason.
Just stumbled across your channel. Well done! I agree with all items you mentioned - and the caveats (everyone obviously will make their own trade-offs). Personally, I have not yet succumbed to backpacking with my Chair Zero, even though I have a hard time sitting down on the ground due to knee and back issues. That's a lot of weight to carry! But, I may try it this year.... At about age 64 I decided to follow the fashion and do a long backpack with the trail runners I had been training with. That was a big mistake. That is when I learned I needed orthotics due to high arches. In terms of older hikers moving to "more supportive boots" (not "heavier" - rather "more supportive") I think of it as foot support first, sidehill traction second, rock protection third and way down the list is "ankle support". So, I would suggest that you consider changing the description to "more supportive" for "better foot support". Maybe mention orthotics... My feet have always been happier with traditional, "more supportive" honest to goodness leather boots. With those boots I am not as fast and I probably don't hike as far. But I also don't cripple myself and end up hobbling back to the car in pain on the last day. Pee bottle - seems I can no longer store a liter in my OEM pee bottle at night (i.e. bladder) so a year ago I bought a collapsible brown colored quart bottle made by either hydra pack or someone like that. The color makes it fairly easy to pick out even in the dark. That, plus the form factor is different from my other water containers. It has rarely been used, but if it is really storming outside, or cold & windy ...it is a nice treat to not leave the tent. Works during emergencies on long drives also !
Thank you for your insights. It seems like a lot of hikers go back and forth on the trail runner versus hiking boot question. I also think having solid foot placement skills matters. When I hike in trail runners, I know its important to place my feet in the correct, flat locations, and use my trekking poles correctly. I found a good way to develop the foot placement skills you need on a through hike it to do many of your preparation hikes on steep terrain.
Absolutely helpful. I recommend you visit the himalayan mountains k2 and Nangaparbat view point from one place moses peak. Add this sound in your bucket list.
Yes it is! A very nice place. We stayed in the free camprground before going SOBO. Lots of blowdowns, and burn areas as we entered the Mt. Jefferson Wilderness. Good store, just need to remember to bring cash.
As an older hiker I can recommend two counterintuitive things: 1: Bring a pad to sit on at home and on the trail. This will increase flexibility in your hips and strength in your back along with balance from getting up and sitting down. These are all things that decrease with age and simply changing where you sit (gradually, please) you can reverse the slide for hip flexibility, back strength, and balance. #2: Again, gradually, move toward barefoot or minimalist shoes. Just like sitting on the floor this strengthens things that are not only weakened from raised heels and poor gait but from age too. Get stronger instead of relying on external support. Take your time though. Also, once you go bidet, you never go back!
Pushkin? Wow. Now we know what you do during those long winters! I broke down and ordered the Zero, after hearing about folks trying to inflate their beds with HAPE! But it's coming from HK so will have it bounced to me. Also, bought mah bidet but will have it bounced when I don't have to consider icycles on my bum! Great backdrop!
41, bad back … just started using a new pack with a running vest-style straps. I’ll never go back to regular straps. Six Moon Designs Swift V with the “flight vest harness”. If your back is tense and sore after hiking all day, try it!
You're the first viewer to recommend such an item. I'm curious and I'll check it out. Thank you, and I'm so happy you found a way to keep on backpacking. I wonder if another viewer my benefit from your advice. All the best, and Happy Trails.
Great vid , thanks for posting a new one! I like the chair idea. I also think for me at 61 , I must make hard choices with regard to weight . I also think possibly the shoes with more support at the expense of weight may be better. I just subscribed, my apologies for not doing so sooner....
Thank you. I'm at the same point, deciding whether to continue hiking in trail runners or hiking with my mid-weight hiking boots for the added support. I've seen some hikers actually bring two pairs of hiking shoes along the trail, with different pressure points.
I hurt my back in the military and I need support when I sit for any short to long periods of time. Having an extremely light chair is quite important. I could understand perhaps not carrying it on a full on thru hike but even then I would consider dumping other gear or carefully choosing the food I carry for the 1lb necessity.
Here's my own list of gear for older hikers (game changing) 1. Fresh prunes 2.Prune juice 3.camping chair 4.Dried prunes 6.Zpacks Plex solo 7. THC infused prune gummies 8.Organic prunes 9. High quality prunes at discount prices
You can get a large black Mylar ziplock bag that holds about 700ml. Super light, discrete and just the right size for a pee bottle. Been using it for a year now, I bring two for winter camping. Easy to pour out even when the pee freezes!
Great list. Love my cork ball. Bought it for hiking but have taken it on every trip where walking is done. From Paris to Disneyland and Disney World. I like it so much Im getting a second one. Rawology has all sorts of them. Am considering a chair and wondering if anybody has any first hand experience on a 3 legged camp stool? Looking at a Grand Trunk version and it swivels. Weights per site only a pound and its 15" high and collapses to 11x3x3.
The challenge with a stool is that there is no backrest. Even so, I would consider a stool if the weight and cost were significantly less than a chair. But they’re about the same.
I have used several quality trail runner shoes and love their comfort and lightweight; However, every time i use them with a pack, I will eventually strain my plantar fascia because of the shoe's inherent flexibility. When that happens, I have to quit the trail and go home to painful and expensive treatments or be hobbled for months. I have never had that issue with using sturdy hiking shoes with a robust shank (such as Keen or Oboz low-cut hiking shoes). I feel like I can do anything in those - except maybe hike as long and hard as one can in featherweight tennis shoes. The primary disadvantage is they tend to be twice the weight of trail runners at just over a Lb. per shoe vs. 1/2 a lb per shoe. $60 inserts added to trail runners has not alleviated the problem for me. As I've gotten older and my tendon bands around my feet have loosened, I need that support under the foot to do backpacking. The second disadvantage of sturdy hiking shoes is they tend to not be quick drying, which I cannot do much about except hope for drier weather on trails and bring moleskin or a sock liner to prevent blisters if I have to hike in sodden shoes.
I think you have summed up the pros and cons of trail runners versus sturdy hiking boots for older hikers perfectly. I'm on the fence, but leaning toward the sturdier hiking boots for the CT this summer. Sometimes I wonder if I should carry both types of shoe/boot. Last year at Seiad Valley I met the woman who completed the FKT of the PCT and she mentioned she rotated between her two sets of shoes on the trail depending on how her feet felt. I know it's added weight, but that might not be a bad option.
A light pack is important for us older folks, but I laughed at "as spartan like as possible". I don't carry trekking poles, or a bidet, or a pee bottle, or a massage ball, or a pump, or a watch or inreach or gps or any other electronics (unless you count a headlamp...). Most trips I only have a light tarp instead of a tent and If I'm really going "spartan" I'll eat cold food and leave out the cooking gear. I would consider bringing a chair if anyone made one I could use, but they don't. (My behind has to be higher than my knees or my back can't take it.) My one luxuray is an inflatable pillow instead of clothes in a stuffsack- less chance of a stiff neck in the morning.
I think you are the Spartan. And I agree on the inflatable pillow. My trekology pillow has lasted the entire PCT. It looks gnarly, but it has such sentimental value, I can't even think of using the replacement I bought.
I'm 60 and regularly hike 20+ mile days. I've gone from a pack base-weight of 25lb 40 years ago to an 8 - 8.5lb, 3 season base weight today. That huge win for on-trail comfort is not something I'll willingly give up for perceived in-camp comforts. In fact I'm comfortable as can be in camp anyway - I'm still carrying an air mat, pillow, stove, warm insulation etc! The air pump particularly seems an unnecessary luxury (to me!). Even at 1.2oz that's 1.2 oz I'm carrying for 20 miles to use for 1 minute in the evening! Honestly, if I can hike 15-20miles per day (and even 30 sometimes!) then my dual, OG, manufacturer-installed "pump sacks" are working just fine. And then there's no material need for an actual pump sack or a battery-powered pump! I just take it slow - it's camp time - and I can totally manage another 20-25 big breaths after the literal thousands of deep breaths I've taken all day long! No rush, no dizziness, no getting out-of-breath, and it takes all of 2-3 mins 1.2oz saved!
I think you've expressed a very important underlying message. As we get more experienced on the trail, we start eliminating stuff, unburdening ourselves. When we started at Campo in 2022, I carried a pump, and a lot of other junk I really didn't need, but felt like it gave me a degree of security. By the time we hit Julian we sent back a box of unneeded gear including the Sawyer Squeeze syringe and the rechargeable pump, and extra clothing. Same thing last year when we hiked our last 650 miles through Oregon and Nor Cal. I started carrying only a one extra day cushion of food, and sent most of my clothing home, such as puffy jacket, long pants, etc., because the season was so hot and I just lived in my hiking shorts. The one thing to this day that I don't skimp on is carrying enough water to get me through at least the next two water sources, in case one is actually dry, or perhaps it's actually cow water that I don't want to drink. Thanks for your story. I'm sure many will benefit from reading it.
FYI: The Gear Skeptic did an entire episode on whether inflating your air pad with your breath will cause fungus to form in your pad. The answer is no.
I can confirm that firsthand. My x-therm lasted the entire PCT and is still going strong and I blew it up each time. I guess the only reason for an air pump is if you think you're too tired at the end of the day, and need some help.
Okay, thanks for the comment. I've used my Flextail Zero on a few trips and it's quite nice, although probably not a necessity. It does pump up an air mattress quickly.
I guess I was lucky. No ticks and no chiggers, although I have heard of some tick cases along the PCT. I imagine the AT also has plenty. Even Burn our Husky didn't attract a tick last year, which I thought was amazing. Thanks for watching.
Definitely would apply to all ages but older, creaky bodies, I believe, appreciate these more and would sacrifice the added weight. These items add more comfort for the older hiker- (I’m older😂) High top shoes- my ankles are weaker now and prone to twisting. I’ve always worn light trail runners but sprained my ankle last year. Bidet- can’t hold it as long as I used to, and more prone to urinary infections and bidet cleans things up nicely. Also men are have prostate problems and have to pee more often. Pump- harder to blow things up with age, also more tiring Chair- back is more sore now and chair offers support Cork ball- older hikers have to pay more attention to stretching and taking care of the more delicate muscles, tendons and ligaments- I’m finding my stretching/yoga more important as I age 😀 🥾
@@alaskalogcabinyoga7050 I'm 61 & I'm NOT 'older'. The difference in wearing any kind of boots v. trail runners of other lighter shoes is significant. I only wear boots when it is cold and wet (which is seldom where I live). Likewise, I won't wear Goretex shoes ever. That may change if I lived in AK.
@@safromnc8616 I’ve decided to go with trail runners and an ankle brace because the trail runners are more comfortable, lighter and dry fast. I may even wear ankle braces on both ankles.
I have an REI Flexlite Air. It is light and comfortable, but the real seat height is FOUR inches (measured). Nowhere near the "11 inches" claimed by REI. I wear Merrell MOAB Tactical boots. They are 8 inches tall, and give REAL ankle support, not like mid-highs. They are pretty light and have a stiffer sole than MOABs, which is more comfortable on rocky or root-lumpy trails.
Moab Tactical boots. Interesting. I'll check them out. Lots of older hikers like Merrell's, I've discovered. We are almost a tribe. Thanks. I'll check them out.
What are some thoughts about the UL backpacks vs traditional packs W/ beefier hip belt & shoulder straps? Do you find the wt easier to carry in sturdier pack or have you found comfort w/ a UL pack? If so, which UL? My Gregory diva at 4# carries the load more comfortable than a 2# UL pack. I so want to go UL but every single UL I have tried makes the load feel heavier. Thank you for suggestions. Happy trails.
I carry a ULA Circuit, and I honestly love it. I hiked with it the entire PCT. After 200 miles, the inner support rod sleeve busted, and ULA sent me a new pack to the trail within 3 days. Flash likes her Osprey backpack. I think it would be best to try out a couple of different packs on shorter 30 mile trips to gain a sense of which one would be preferable.
You're right, we're an opinionated bunch! including me. Billions of people worldwide use water, not TP. Give it a try! You can just use a plastic bottle with a good squirt to it, like a perineal bottle, or a nasal lavage bottle. So nice to feel fully clean every day! Pee bottles though? gross gross gross. Those people's tents are disgusting. Just get up and go, and enjoy the stars in the process. Air pumps? Nah. I'm strong. And your breath doesn't degrade your mattress. It's just a myth. The only thing i need from your video is the genie at the end that packs your pack for you!!
Thanks Karen, perhaps the bidet will be a growth area for me in the summer 2024. I think you're right about the air mattress. I used my x-therm for the entire PCT and it didn't rot, and it's still going strong. So basically, those inflation sacks are pretty unnecessary. Thanks for the comment. The genie is my latest project.
My wife thinks the same, that men using pee bottles is gross, and I totally get it. But they can be a game changer for male hikers. Especially so when using a quilt and you can do your business under the quilt on a bitter cold night without waking anyone else up. I bring one on all overnight hikes now.
A video about “game changing” gear for older hikers, but you’re suggesting gear you’ve never used? Seriously? How would you know how “game changing” it might or not be?
Okay, I understand. I thought I made it clear that I was summarizing some of the main items from the comments two weeks ago. People's Choice Awards. I felt like the enthusiastic comments from that video deserved to be highlighted because others might benefit even if I don't personally use each of the items such as a bidet (not yet, but perhaps), pee bottle (thank you prostrate), camp chair (can't take an extra pound because of my camera gear). I did start out with a pump on the PCT in 2022, but sent it back to cut weight so I'm still on the fence on that one, and I finally found a place that might ship to AK. I do use the ball after my daily walks, and I will be taking it along, and I am considering mid-weight boots and hiking in them as presented.
As a backpacker for 60 years I've always been a fan of boots. This past year, against my better judgement, I went with trailrunners on a particularly arduous section of the PCT. I slipped and fell on a narrow catwalk on a steep slope and broke my ankle. Lesson learned. I will return to my trusty, supportive, and waterproof Salomon boots.
To boot or not to boot. That's the same thing with me. Although I would not like carrying the extra weight, I might actually wear my boots and carry a pair of trail runners. We met the lady who completed the FKT going South on the PCT this year. She hiked in two different pairs of shoes because she said each one had its own peculiar pinch points, and by switching shoes her feet stayed relatively fresh. She got me thinking. I like trail runners in the desert, or through Oregon, but I wish I had boots during the rockier Sierra/Yosemite sections and in part of Washington.
I hiked for years in my trusty Kastinger, Austrian-made leather waterproof boots. I have bad ankles, and I can still use those Kastingers. I don't hop like a gazelle like I used to, BUT, I am stable and my ankles are held firm.
@@j.b.9581Yup, my gazelle days are long gone, left somewhere to perish on the Serengeti. Way to take care of your ankles!
A bidet for sure. Absolutely a game changer: Have a good wash. You are just cleaner and fresher with it. 'nuff said.
My favorite pee bottle: a Krogers 16oz roasted peanut jar. Light, with a big enough opening, big enough volume, and a ridge that can be held with a bungee outside the pack. Perfect.
Okay, thanks. Sounds like a could of good strategies.
Hi from Australia just came across your channel and love it as a 73 year old hiker still doing multi day hikes thanks for some new ideas
Hello from Alaska. I love connecting with outdoorsman from across the globe. Congrats on staying active at 73. I hope to be doing the same one day. I met a 70-year-old through hiker on the PCT this past summer. His trail name was Way Back, because as he said, "I go way back." Very cool person.
I am 66, hiking a lot. 100% wild camping. Chairs didn't work for me, very unstable on the ground, so I use Therm-a-rest trekking chair which works with sleeping pad, this way I can sit outside or inside my tent. Pee bottle is absolutely essential. Last thing I want to do is to get out of my tent in the dark of the night, or in rainstorm, or snowstorm in winter. The best one I found and use for many years is Nalgene Cantene collapsible bottle. I always hike in boots. My hikes are in wilderness, mostly in Norway and Scotland. Any foot injury is a giant problem. If I hurt my arm, shoulder, even back, I can still walk to safety. With injured feet I am a toast. Don't really understand all this hoopla with hiking in runners. My boots are hardly heavier than sneakers, but give me so much better protection. Be safe. Thanks for the video.
Congrats on your hiking longevity. That's awesome. I appreciate your advice about a thermarest trekking chair. I'll try to explain the hoopla about trail runners. They are very light, and when folks are trying to crank out the miles in the desert section of the PCT or in Oregon, they can seem like the optimal choice. Boots, like you say, that come up to the ankle, are getting pretty light. The one downside I see with boots is I don't like hiking in waterproof boots because if you soak them they're hard to get dry and that increases the risk of blisters. However, I hike in both trail runners and my Merrell Moabs. I'm having a tough time trying to decide which pair to take on the Colorado Trail next summer. I'll leave it up to my feet.
Yeah, I got that about runners. If I have a choice between slightly lighter shoes or better foot protection, I go with the later. Just my 2c. I have Merrell Moabs and use them for regular travel, they are good for cobblestone streets in Europe, but way too heavy for hiking. Here are a few boot/shoes I like: La Sportiva Wildcat Trail-Running Shoes(excellent grip and ground protection); La Sportiva Nucleo High II GTX Hiking Boots; La Sportiva Ultra Raptor II Mid GTX Hiking Boots. Most of my hikes are above tree line, but these will work everywhere. Be well. @@akwild1
Stumbled onto your channel and love it, thank you. Subscribed immediately. I’m a 63 yo hiker and appreciate your suggestions. Hike on
Awesome! Thank you!
My son has brought a backpacking chair on our last few trips. It seemed kinda silly to me at first, but I've spent many hours hunched over sitting on an uncomfortable rock, jealously admiring that chair...
Maybe he can carry an extra chair for you. It might be worth a try.
Good lists. I don't use all of these items myself but people should still think through the list of these items to see what works for them. One additional suggestion that has made a significant improvement for me: regularly sipping electrolytes while hiking. Not necessarily a "gear" item, but this has helped me drink much more water during the day and I feel much better each night as a result.
Yes, thank you. In other videos I recommend Liquid IV and Nunn water tablets. They seem to work for me. Happy Trails.
My Chair Zero is worth its weight easy! My dog sleeps in it when I’m walking around camp. What a princess she is. 😂🙏
I can only imagine the look on your dog's face when you ask him/her to get off the chair so you can sit down.
Hi AKwild1 duo. I've read through all the comments so far and it appears I'm the first here to mention a common phrase: "a pound on your feet equals five pounds on your back." It's from an Army study in the 80's and the physics have been verified over the subsequent years. Ankle support from a heavier boot may benefit many, however for me (and maybe Flash too) I choose the best of the lightest footwear available (a trail shoe) and focus separately on ankle strength and flexibility with exercise. Thank you again for such helpful content. I'm such a fan!
That's an awesome insight. Didn't Sir Edmund Hillary also say something to that effect? Flash agrees with you, Jennifer, and she is working on strengthening her ankles before and after hiking. I think one solid benefit of trail runners is they do dry out more quickly than boots, and hiking in soggy footwear can cause blisters. Happy Trails, and thank you for your encouraging words.
I know it's what works for you that counts, but whilst I understand people's views on the topic of trail runners Vs boots, even some of my most respected hiking RUclipsrs are repeating incorrect or out-of-date information on this topic. Please have a look at GearSkeptic Backpacking Fact checker video on shoe weight. He goes into great detail on the army study, current boot weights and speed you need to be walking to make a significant difference. For me, it's (lightweight) boots all day long for the kind of terrain I'm hiking in but, like I said, it's what works for you that counts.
Enjoy watching your videos. The -50 video was a great expression. Will continue to be inspired and informed by your channel. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching! We're through the really cold weather. March is one of my favorite months; long sunny, cold days, no mosquitoes.
Thanks for the demo of how to roll out your foot.
A very wise old timer born in the late 1800s I knew always obsessed about his feet ....😊
Yup, if your wheels go, you wont.
Any time! I'm doing it after our daily hikes, and I plan to incorporate it into my next long-distance hike.
I've always liked footwear with ankle support. I live in Alberta near the Rockies. It's always good to have that extra support on irregular terrain. Since I began hunting in 2020, I've hiked in 8" uninsulated hunting boots for summer. They're not hot and have wonderful support.
I can definitely see the value of the pee bottle. I never want to go outside in pitch dark in grizzly country. My camping isn't light backpacking so I use the 5 gal luggable loo in the tipi. The woodstove doubles as my campfire if I'm alone in 🐻 country at night.
I'm glad I stumbled on your channel. I'm turning 50 this year and look forward to drawing on the experience of others to help my decisions as I age. I will never tire of going outdoors, camping and hiking.
It sounds like you live in beautiful country. What I carry hunting, or rafting, is pretty different from what I carry on backpacking trips. However, since I took up backpacking, I've noticed I am going lighter on my hunting and rafting trips. It's nice to simplify. Many people on this channel love the outdoors so much and are looking for ways to continue these experiences as they age. Happy Trails!
Thanks a lot for sharing this video. In my opinion the best equipment is the equipment you leave at home. A chair is a nice to have, but for me a small peace of and old foam mat is enough. I always find a stone or a tree stump were i can sit.
Indeed a bidet can be helpfull. I lived a long time in asia and they found that toilet paper is unhygienik. If u clean with water and dry with toiletpaper, it is really clean. And also if you sweat, the underwear keeps clean. With trecking shoes i a agree to you. I try to avoid boots. I wish you all the best from Germany
Yes, I too have to focus on leaving behind things that would be nice to have. My camera gear seems to get heavier with each new trip, and I need to cut weigh somewhere. Thank you for watching.
I'm 67 and wore Merrill "Moab" mids for my thru hike of the PCT in 2020. I experimented with a number of lighter trail runners and nothing else gave me the same level of comfort and support. I never has any foot issues on trail.
A few folks commenting like their Merells. Good to hear your perspective. Thank you.
Thanks for the suggestions! You may want to check out the gear skeptics video on moisture in sleeping pads. Overall, it looks like it just isn't a problem. Take care and keep the videos comming.
Thank you. I had heard the moisture was a problem, but then again, my thermarest survived me breathing into it for the entire PCT, and is still going strong. It seems like the moisture isn't a problem.
Awesome! I just bought a bidet (the one from your pictures) as well as a cork ball. I haven’t used them yet, but they’ll be a part of my backpacking this summer so we’ll see how they go. I always wear good boots for my backpacking, but they’re heavy and not very knee friendly for the huge miles, so my thoughts are I’ll go with trail runners when I attempt the PCT.
Thanks Glen. The trail runner or boot decision is one I have to make for our Colorado Trail trip. I think I'll just keep switching between the two during my training hikes, and settle on which pair seems most comfortable. It seems each year, my feet and knees behave differently for some reason.
Just stumbled across your channel. Well done! I agree with all items you mentioned - and the caveats (everyone obviously will make their own trade-offs). Personally, I have not yet succumbed to backpacking with my Chair Zero, even though I have a hard time sitting down on the ground due to knee and back issues. That's a lot of weight to carry! But, I may try it this year....
At about age 64 I decided to follow the fashion and do a long backpack with the trail runners I had been training with. That was a big mistake. That is when I learned I needed orthotics due to high arches.
In terms of older hikers moving to "more supportive boots" (not "heavier" - rather "more supportive") I think of it as foot support first, sidehill traction second, rock protection third and way down the list is "ankle support". So, I would suggest that you consider changing the description to "more supportive" for "better foot support". Maybe mention orthotics...
My feet have always been happier with traditional, "more supportive" honest to goodness leather boots. With those boots I am not as fast and I probably don't hike as far. But I also don't cripple myself and end up hobbling back to the car in pain on the last day.
Pee bottle - seems I can no longer store a liter in my OEM pee bottle at night (i.e. bladder) so a year ago I bought a collapsible brown colored quart bottle made by either hydra pack or someone like that. The color makes it fairly easy to pick out even in the dark. That, plus the form factor is different from my other water containers. It has rarely been used, but if it is really storming outside, or cold & windy ...it is a nice treat to not leave the tent. Works during emergencies on long drives also !
Thank you for your insights. It seems like a lot of hikers go back and forth on the trail runner versus hiking boot question. I also think having solid foot placement skills matters. When I hike in trail runners, I know its important to place my feet in the correct, flat locations, and use my trekking poles correctly. I found a good way to develop the foot placement skills you need on a through hike it to do many of your preparation hikes on steep terrain.
Absolutely helpful. I recommend you visit the himalayan mountains k2 and Nangaparbat view point from one place moses peak. Add this sound in your bucket list.
Sounds great! My bucket list keeps growing. Perhaps I'll be granted an extension on life.
Thanks for all the tips! I’m a relatively new subscriber and I’m enjoying your videos.
Is that background Olallie Lake and Mt. Jefferson/Oregon?
Yes it is! A very nice place. We stayed in the free camprground before going SOBO. Lots of blowdowns, and burn areas as we entered the Mt. Jefferson Wilderness. Good store, just need to remember to bring cash.
Thanks for sharing all the recommendations.
You are so welcome!
As an older hiker I can recommend two counterintuitive things: 1: Bring a pad to sit on at home and on the trail. This will increase flexibility in your hips and strength in your back along with balance from getting up and sitting down. These are all things that decrease with age and simply changing where you sit (gradually, please) you can reverse the slide for hip flexibility, back strength, and balance. #2: Again, gradually, move toward barefoot or minimalist shoes. Just like sitting on the floor this strengthens things that are not only weakened from raised heels and poor gait but from age too. Get stronger instead of relying on external support. Take your time though.
Also, once you go bidet, you never go back!
Thank you. I'm hoping to keep hiking in my trail runners so I guess I'll keep my feet strong.
Love my merrell mid- boots...also my chaco sandals with hiking soles :)
Lots of folks like their Merells. Pretty reasonably priced relatively speaking, too.
Good list. I carry most of those items. I'll be 64 this summer when I start the CT. Maybe I'll see you out there!
I'll be the same age when I hit the CT this summer. I'm looking forward to it. In fact, I would start tomorrow if I could. I miss the trail.
Pushkin? Wow. Now we know what you do during those long winters! I broke down and ordered the Zero, after hearing about folks trying to inflate their beds with HAPE! But it's coming from HK so will have it bounced to me. Also, bought mah bidet but will have it bounced when I don't have to consider icycles on my bum! Great backdrop!
The bidet in the Sierra would be exhilarating!
Always good, AK. Thanks.
Thank you, Peter.
For what it's worth, the Altra Lone Peaks in the high top version are a great half-step (😅) up to full-on boots!
Thanks, I'll ook them up.
You got a subscriber at..."I won't be taking one for the team". Lmao.
Thank you. That makes two of us.
41, bad back … just started using a new pack with a running vest-style straps. I’ll never go back to regular straps. Six Moon Designs Swift V with the “flight vest harness”. If your back is tense and sore after hiking all day, try it!
You're the first viewer to recommend such an item. I'm curious and I'll check it out. Thank you, and I'm so happy you found a way to keep on backpacking. I wonder if another viewer my benefit from your advice. All the best, and Happy Trails.
Great info! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
Great vid , thanks for posting a new one! I like the chair idea. I also think for me at 61 , I must make hard choices with regard to weight . I also think possibly the shoes with more support at the expense of weight may be better. I just subscribed, my apologies for not doing so sooner....
Thank you. I'm at the same point, deciding whether to continue hiking in trail runners or hiking with my mid-weight hiking boots for the added support. I've seen some hikers actually bring two pairs of hiking shoes along the trail, with different pressure points.
Such a great video 😂 thank you. New Subscriber, love your content
Thanks for subscribing. I'll strive to do my best each week. I appreciate the support. Happy Trails!
I hurt my back in the military and I need support when I sit for any short to long periods of time. Having an extremely light chair is quite important. I could understand perhaps not carrying it on a full on thru hike but even then I would consider dumping other gear or carefully choosing the food I carry for the 1lb necessity.
That's a great approach. It's amazing to me how strong they are for the weight.
Here's my own list of gear for older hikers (game changing)
1. Fresh prunes
2.Prune juice
3.camping chair
4.Dried prunes
6.Zpacks Plex solo
7. THC infused prune gummies
8.Organic prunes
9. High quality prunes at discount prices
Imodium, perhaps?
@@akwild1I like the way you think!
You can get a large black Mylar ziplock bag that holds about 700ml. Super light, discrete and just the right size for a pee bottle. Been using it for a year now, I bring two for winter camping. Easy to pour out even when the pee freezes!
Thanks for the tip. I'm sure there are folks on this channel who would appreciate it.
I can’t squat no mo, so I cut out a trap door on my chair! I use the QwikBack UL Chair!
I haven't heard of that one. I laughed out loud.
Great list. Love my cork ball. Bought it for hiking but have taken it on every trip where walking is done. From Paris to Disneyland and Disney World. I like it so much Im getting a second one. Rawology has all sorts of them.
Am considering a chair and wondering if anybody has any first hand experience on a 3 legged camp stool? Looking at a Grand Trunk version and it swivels. Weights per site only a pound and its 15" high and collapses to 11x3x3.
The challenge with a stool is that there is no backrest. Even so, I would consider a stool if the weight and cost were significantly less than a chair. But they’re about the same.
Thank you. I've been incorporating the cork ball into my daily hikes, and I'll definitely be taking it along this summer.
I have used several quality trail runner shoes and love their comfort and lightweight; However, every time i use them with a pack, I will eventually strain my plantar fascia because of the shoe's inherent flexibility. When that happens, I have to quit the trail and go home to painful and expensive treatments or be hobbled for months. I have never had that issue with using sturdy hiking shoes with a robust shank (such as Keen or Oboz low-cut hiking shoes). I feel like I can do anything in those - except maybe hike as long and hard as one can in featherweight tennis shoes. The primary disadvantage is they tend to be twice the weight of trail runners at just over a Lb. per shoe vs. 1/2 a lb per shoe. $60 inserts added to trail runners has not alleviated the problem for me. As I've gotten older and my tendon bands around my feet have loosened, I need that support under the foot to do backpacking. The second disadvantage of sturdy hiking shoes is they tend to not be quick drying, which I cannot do much about except hope for drier weather on trails and bring moleskin or a sock liner to prevent blisters if I have to hike in sodden shoes.
I think you have summed up the pros and cons of trail runners versus sturdy hiking boots for older hikers perfectly. I'm on the fence, but leaning toward the sturdier hiking boots for the CT this summer. Sometimes I wonder if I should carry both types of shoe/boot. Last year at Seiad Valley I met the woman who completed the FKT of the PCT and she mentioned she rotated between her two sets of shoes on the trail depending on how her feet felt. I know it's added weight, but that might not be a bad option.
Still waiting for the bidet demonstration. I do not have any dogs!
It's the puritan in me. Can't quite muster the nerve for a bidet demo.
Good info
Glad it was helpful!
A light pack is important for us older folks, but I laughed at "as spartan like as possible". I don't carry trekking poles, or a bidet, or a pee bottle, or a massage ball, or a pump, or a watch or inreach or gps or any other electronics (unless you count a headlamp...). Most trips I only have a light tarp instead of a tent and If I'm really going "spartan" I'll eat cold food and leave out the cooking gear. I would consider bringing a chair if anyone made one I could use, but they don't. (My behind has to be higher than my knees or my back can't take it.) My one luxuray is an inflatable pillow instead of clothes in a stuffsack- less chance of a stiff neck in the morning.
I think you are the Spartan. And I agree on the inflatable pillow. My trekology pillow has lasted the entire PCT. It looks gnarly, but it has such sentimental value, I can't even think of using the replacement I bought.
Nice video 🙂👍
Thank you 👍
@@akwild1 👍🙂
I'm 60 and regularly hike 20+ mile days. I've gone from a pack base-weight of 25lb 40 years ago to an 8 - 8.5lb, 3 season base weight today. That huge win for on-trail comfort is not something I'll willingly give up for perceived in-camp comforts. In fact I'm comfortable as can be in camp anyway - I'm still carrying an air mat, pillow, stove, warm insulation etc!
The air pump particularly seems an unnecessary luxury (to me!). Even at 1.2oz that's 1.2 oz I'm carrying for 20 miles to use for 1 minute in the evening! Honestly, if I can hike 15-20miles per day (and even 30 sometimes!) then my dual, OG, manufacturer-installed "pump sacks" are working just fine. And then there's no material need for an actual pump sack or a battery-powered pump! I just take it slow - it's camp time - and I can totally manage another 20-25 big breaths after the literal thousands of deep breaths I've taken all day long! No rush, no dizziness, no getting out-of-breath, and it takes all of 2-3 mins 1.2oz saved!
I think you've expressed a very important underlying message. As we get more experienced on the trail, we start eliminating stuff, unburdening ourselves. When we started at Campo in 2022, I carried a pump, and a lot of other junk I really didn't need, but felt like it gave me a degree of security. By the time we hit Julian we sent back a box of unneeded gear including the Sawyer Squeeze syringe and the rechargeable pump, and extra clothing. Same thing last year when we hiked our last 650 miles through Oregon and Nor Cal. I started carrying only a one extra day cushion of food, and sent most of my clothing home, such as puffy jacket, long pants, etc., because the season was so hot and I just lived in my hiking shorts. The one thing to this day that I don't skimp on is carrying enough water to get me through at least the next two water sources, in case one is actually dry, or perhaps it's actually cow water that I don't want to drink. Thanks for your story. I'm sure many will benefit from reading it.
FYI: The Gear Skeptic did an entire episode on whether inflating your air pad with your breath will cause fungus to form in your pad. The answer is no.
I can confirm that firsthand. My x-therm lasted the entire PCT and is still going strong and I blew it up each time. I guess the only reason for an air pump is if you think you're too tired at the end of the day, and need some help.
Older People Gear Choice Awards… Ahahahahaha 😂 that’s FUNNY
Yes, weird ideas enter my head from time to time.
The Flextail Zero is over 2oz. with the battery and nozzle fitting... Its nonsense to rate a weight of a product dismantled just to gain attraction.
Okay, thanks for the comment. I've used my Flextail Zero on a few trips and it's quite nice, although probably not a necessity. It does pump up an air mattress quickly.
Chiggers!l believe you pick up those little sob,s by sitting or liring on the ground,especially pine needles.
I guess I was lucky. No ticks and no chiggers, although I have heard of some tick cases along the PCT. I imagine the AT also has plenty. Even Burn our Husky didn't attract a tick last year, which I thought was amazing. Thanks for watching.
Well done
Thank you.
I have carried a folding stool for a long time. I will carry one on my thru hike starting in three days.
Sounds good. Which trail are you hiking? Best of luck on your trip.
Not sure why this is applicable to 'older hikers' (whatever that is) ? Would this not apply to anyone ?
Definitely would apply to all ages but older, creaky bodies, I believe, appreciate these more and would sacrifice the added weight. These items add more comfort for the older hiker-
(I’m older😂)
High top shoes- my ankles are weaker now and prone to twisting. I’ve always worn light trail runners but sprained my ankle last year.
Bidet- can’t hold it as long as I used to, and more prone to urinary infections and bidet cleans things up nicely. Also men are have prostate problems and have to pee more often.
Pump- harder to blow things up with age, also more tiring
Chair- back is more sore now and chair offers support
Cork ball- older hikers have to pay more attention to stretching and taking care of the more delicate muscles, tendons and ligaments- I’m finding my stretching/yoga more important as I age
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@@alaskalogcabinyoga7050 I'm 61, I'm not older....staying in shape is much easier than getting in shape...
Maybe an item or two would apply to anyone, but I think a pee bottle, stouter boots, and the hiking chair might be more applicable to older hikers.
@@alaskalogcabinyoga7050 I'm 61 & I'm NOT 'older'. The difference in wearing any kind of boots v. trail runners of other lighter shoes is significant. I only wear boots when it is cold and wet (which is seldom where I live). Likewise, I won't wear Goretex shoes ever. That may change if I lived in AK.
@@safromnc8616 I’ve decided to go with trail runners and an ankle brace because the trail runners are more comfortable, lighter and dry fast. I may even wear ankle braces on both ankles.
The Helinox chair is 1 pound, 1 ounce, or 17 ounces. possibly less with out the case. About the same as the REI chair.
Yes, thank you. I should have verified my source.
I have an REI Flexlite Air. It is light and comfortable, but the real seat height is FOUR inches (measured). Nowhere near the "11 inches" claimed by REI.
I wear Merrell MOAB Tactical boots. They are 8 inches tall, and give REAL ankle support, not like mid-highs. They are pretty light and have a stiffer sole than MOABs, which is more comfortable on rocky or root-lumpy trails.
Moab Tactical boots. Interesting. I'll check them out. Lots of older hikers like Merrell's, I've discovered. We are almost a tribe. Thanks. I'll check them out.
@@akwild1 AFAIK, Merrell was the first major company to make wide toe boxes and lightweight shoes/boots.
But, wait... did you just call me "old"?!
@@billb5732That must have been a typo. I should have typed "bold"
What are some thoughts about the UL backpacks vs traditional packs W/ beefier hip belt & shoulder straps? Do you find the wt easier to carry in sturdier pack or have you found comfort w/ a UL pack? If so, which UL? My Gregory diva at 4# carries the load more comfortable than a 2# UL pack. I so want to go UL but every single UL I have tried makes the load feel heavier. Thank you for suggestions. Happy trails.
I carry a ULA Circuit, and I honestly love it. I hiked with it the entire PCT. After 200 miles, the inner support rod sleeve busted, and ULA sent me a new pack to the trail within 3 days. Flash likes her Osprey backpack. I think it would be best to try out a couple of different packs on shorter 30 mile trips to gain a sense of which one would be preferable.
@@akwild1 thank you for the recommendations- what was your total pack wt you carried? I will look into these. Shaving 2# off is huge
FYI....The Helinox chair doesnt weigh 1 lb 7 oz.
It weighs 17 oz.
Thank you for the correction. I should have verified the source.
What about the new camp chair from Nemo? It's an REI exclusive currently. Looks like a real competitor to the Helinox Chair.
I'll check it out. Thank you.
Another item" pads or briefs for those who have bladder leaking. Nothing more uncomfortable than wet pad all day walking
Yout gotta do what ya gotta do. Anything to stay on the trail. Thanks for the suggestion.
Pee bottle? A yellow wide-mouth Nalgene of course 😊
Thanks for your comment. The color choice seems entirely appropriate.
I use a glow in the dark one
You're right, we're an opinionated bunch! including me. Billions of people worldwide use water, not TP. Give it a try! You can just use a plastic bottle with a good squirt to it, like a perineal bottle, or a nasal lavage bottle. So nice to feel fully clean every day! Pee bottles though? gross gross gross. Those people's tents are disgusting. Just get up and go, and enjoy the stars in the process. Air pumps? Nah. I'm strong. And your breath doesn't degrade your mattress. It's just a myth. The only thing i need from your video is the genie at the end that packs your pack for you!!
Thanks Karen, perhaps the bidet will be a growth area for me in the summer 2024. I think you're right about the air mattress. I used my x-therm for the entire PCT and it didn't rot, and it's still going strong. So basically, those inflation sacks are pretty unnecessary. Thanks for the comment. The genie is my latest project.
My wife thinks the same, that men using pee bottles is gross, and I totally get it. But they can be a game changer for male hikers. Especially so when using a quilt and you can do your business under the quilt on a bitter cold night without waking anyone else up. I bring one on all overnight hikes now.
This video is sponsored by мr. Pushkin.
Perhaps it is!
A video about “game changing” gear for older hikers, but you’re suggesting gear you’ve never used? Seriously? How would you know how “game changing” it might or not be?
Okay, I understand. I thought I made it clear that I was summarizing some of the main items from the comments two weeks ago. People's Choice Awards. I felt like the enthusiastic comments from that video deserved to be highlighted because others might benefit even if I don't personally use each of the items such as a bidet (not yet, but perhaps), pee bottle (thank you prostrate), camp chair (can't take an extra pound because of my camera gear). I did start out with a pump on the PCT in 2022, but sent it back to cut weight so I'm still on the fence on that one, and I finally found a place that might ship to AK. I do use the ball after my daily walks, and I will be taking it along, and I am considering mid-weight boots and hiking in them as presented.
I think this video was based on what others said was game changing
Thanks for the share. I enjoyed the suggestions.. 👴
Thank you for watching. I appreciate it.
Thank you for this video. Great tips. Subscribed.
Thanks for the sub! I appreciate it.
Great review from the crowd.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you for watching.