I sure get it about the more "comfortable height" at the anvil. I have taken to using a step in front of the vise when it is necessary for me to hammer on something clamped. I get a much more accurate swing and a lot less strain on the arm and shoulder when I can step up a little higher in front of the vise. Thanks for the vid!
Great video! I like the tips on pre-drilling/milling and the tip on rotating the ball punch. The little tips that make the tool turn out all the better. Thanks!
You have brilliant timing with these video's as I'm in the middle of doing this to make my first set of rivet headers. I would have finished already but I ran out of gas! LOL 😊
Thank you , John , for this informative Video ! I am in the process of building up my tools! And this one is on my List ! O finally got my order for Tool Steel in have started to make some more Tooling ! Great Timing ! Thanks again for the inspiration ! Take Care and Be Safe !
I made all my header tools by using round nose milling cutters on a piece of 3/4 x 3 in TQ100 plate. A nice neat row down the centerline. I made it 30 years ago and it is still working flawlessly. I do though need to make a full set of these. Now that I have the time it is time to get them finished. Thanks for the post John.
The first time I tried making a rivet header, before watching you, I used a rivet as a pattern and just like you said it deformed, the ball punch method is superior. Thanks!
John, while watching your video today, I was struck by the constant need for you to have to re-tighten your vise while hammering the item. This was an awesome display of how much steel increases in size with heat, and shrinks in size as it cools. This was just something that "struck" me while watching you work. That rivet header was awesome! It showed up on your video so well. As always, your videos are sooooooo instructive on the Art of Blacksmithing. Thanks.
As I have mentioned in previous comments, I am not a blacksmith nor am I a metal worker beyond bending a rod or some such thing to complete a woodworking project. As I watched you with that rod in the vise I am reminded how difficult it must be to be a blacksmith. When the vise loosened a bit and the rod began to tip my first reaction would be to grab it with my bare hand! YIKES, bet a guy would only make that mistake once.
I've done these by using a drill and random punch to get close, and then one of the rivets (or two, or three) to get the final shape just right. Love your vids!
Hi John, as an "older" person just starting out on blacksmithing, I thoroughly enjoy your videos. I have most of the more common tooling but lack some of the more specialised tools required for some of the projects I would like to attempt. I became very interested when I saw you recommend a book called Iron Menagerie and went ahead and purchased it. Although there are some instructions on making the tools needed, I wondered if you could perhaps do a couple of videos on how to create these tools just for clarification (to help out a senior citizen lol) Appreciate any help you can give. Regards
John, I have a question regarding hammering work on the vise, particularly using the screw housing as a support. I have done this on occasion, but with light hammering. I often wonder if you, or someone you are aware of, have had the screw housing deform or even crack with heavy hammering? Nice slow and easy work on making the rivet setting tool. Very helpful video.
First off, thank you for these informative videos. When making rivets for later use, how do you keep them from upsetting in jig or monkey tool? I've tried a few time and can't get them back out.
For the most part I buy pre-made rivets so i don't have to worry about it. Otherwise I set both heads in the piece they are going into instead of making them in batches
Hi John. another question on ribbon burner.... are you aware if a smaller version is available? forge im making is from a 2 gal. air compressor tank. thank you. I am forever grateful for your wisdom and inspiration!!
Hi John, As usual, a first class video well presented and easy to understand. One question I have is do you have a preferred supplier for rivets, or do you produce your own? Having a difficult time finding a supplier in my area ( the Great White North :-)). Thanks
What part of Canada are you in? There's a bunch of suppliers, but you need some key phrases. I'm in Kitchener, so I use Spaenor locally, but used to have a shop in Burnaby when I lived out west. Mostly hiding out in the yellow pages under "fasteners".
John, I apologize it's been 4 years so this isn't new. Could I not just drill a cup in a 1 inch diameter chunk of mild steel. I need to rivet some tongs up and that seems easier based on tools at hand (I'm making the tools to be at hand :).
Yes you can. You just end up with a rivet that has a cone shape instead of the dome. Of course for tongs you can just set the rivet free hand and skip the header.
A lathe is more accurate and in the long run a drill bit doesn't result in the exact depression you need, so yu still need to forge the final depression. But if you want to start in the drill press it would be just fine.
I have seen some that needed it, but I haven't had to dress mine. I would use a file if its only a little but rough and an angle grinder if its real bad, but be careful, a grinder can mess things up in a hurry
The best place to share images is on the FaceBook group. but if you don't use FaceBook you may email switz@mindspring.com Just make sure the file isn't overly large or it really bogs down my slow connection
I sure get it about the more "comfortable height" at the anvil. I have taken to using a step in front of the vise when it is necessary for me to hammer on something clamped. I get a much more accurate swing and a lot less strain on the arm and shoulder when I can step up a little higher in front of the vise. Thanks for the vid!
Great video! I like the tips on pre-drilling/milling and the tip on rotating the ball punch. The little tips that make the tool turn out all the better. Thanks!
You have brilliant timing with these video's as I'm in the middle of doing this to make my first set of rivet headers. I would have finished already but I ran out of gas! LOL 😊
Thank you , John , for this informative Video ! I am in the process of building up my tools!
And this one is on my List !
O finally got my order for Tool
Steel in have started to make some more Tooling ! Great
Timing ! Thanks again for the inspiration ! Take Care and Be Safe !
I made all my header tools by using round nose milling cutters on a piece of 3/4 x 3 in TQ100 plate. A nice neat row down the centerline. I made it 30 years ago and it is still working flawlessly. I do though need to make a full set of these. Now that I have the time it is time to get them finished. Thanks for the post John.
The first time I tried making a rivet header, before watching you, I used a rivet as a pattern and just like you said it deformed, the ball punch method is superior. Thanks!
👍 🐾🔥⚒ Passing through TX today. Guess it's a good time to source some of the sucker rod?
If you can find a salvage yard in oil country they would probably have it.
John, while watching your video today, I was struck by the constant need for you to have to re-tighten your vise while hammering the item. This was an awesome display of how much steel increases in size with heat, and shrinks in size as it cools. This was just something that "struck" me while watching you work.
That rivet header was awesome! It showed up on your video so well. As always, your videos are sooooooo instructive on the Art of Blacksmithing. Thanks.
Part of the problem in this video was that the handle was bouncing as I hammered and gravity helped open it up a bit.
I am guessing it was more to do with the vice handle bouncing itself loose than the metal cooling down.
Great info for making the rivet set tool.
As I have mentioned in previous comments, I am not a blacksmith nor am I a metal worker beyond bending a rod or some such thing to complete a woodworking project. As I watched you with that rod in the vise I am reminded how difficult it must be to be a blacksmith. When the vise loosened a bit and the rod began to tip my first reaction would be to grab it with my bare hand! YIKES, bet a guy would only make that mistake once.
Most people do learn pretty quickly
@@BlackBearForge As I used to say: "It's not hot. Just doesn't take all that long to look at!" 🐾🔥⚒
I've done these by using a drill and random punch to get close, and then one of the rivets (or two, or three) to get the final shape just right.
Love your vids!
Another amazing video thank you
Great video John!
Thanks John
I am gonna call this a good video for today too.
Another great video!
Thanks
Cool I will try this 👌
That was great thank you!!
Hi John, as an "older" person just starting out on blacksmithing, I thoroughly enjoy your videos. I have most of the more common tooling but lack some of the more specialised tools required for some of the projects I would like to attempt. I became very interested when I saw you recommend a book called Iron Menagerie and went ahead and purchased it. Although there are some instructions on making the tools needed, I wondered if you could perhaps do a couple of videos on how to create these tools just for clarification (to help out a senior citizen lol) Appreciate any help you can give. Regards
I have covered some similar tools. this playlist will have some of those ruclips.net/video/04iHx87bslQ/видео.html
John, I have a question regarding hammering work on the vise, particularly using the screw housing as a support. I have done this on occasion, but with light hammering. I often wonder if you, or someone you are aware of, have had the screw housing deform or even crack with heavy hammering?
Nice slow and easy work on making the rivet setting tool. Very helpful video.
I haven't noticed it to be a big problem, however I do try to avoid it most of the time
First off, thank you for these informative videos. When making rivets for later use, how do you keep them from upsetting in jig or monkey tool? I've tried a few time and can't get them back out.
For the most part I buy pre-made rivets so i don't have to worry about it. Otherwise I set both heads in the piece they are going into instead of making them in batches
Hi John, Thanks again for the informational video. What are your thoughts on S5 tool steel?
I have never used it, but it seems like any of the S series steels should make good tools
What is the metal resting on in the vice? It looks when the vice loosens it is still supported from below
It is resting on the housing for the vise screw. So I wouldn't get to aggressive just in case it can be damaged.
Hi John. another question on ribbon burner.... are you aware if a smaller version is available? forge im making is from a 2 gal. air compressor tank. thank you. I am forever grateful for your wisdom and inspiration!!
I have seen a few small ones and have wondered if a small forge could be built for smaller forge welding jobs.
essential craftsman sells them but they might be too big for your application, might as well as scratch build it.
thanks for the reply guys. i will investigate both options. 🇺🇸👍🏼
Hi John,
As usual, a first class video well presented and easy to understand. One question I have is do you have a preferred supplier for rivets, or do you produce your own? Having a difficult time finding a supplier in my area ( the Great White North :-)).
Thanks
Many industrial suppliers sell rivets. I also buy from here www.rivetsonline.com/solid-rivets/solid-steel-rivets
What part of Canada are you in? There's a bunch of suppliers, but you need some key phrases. I'm in Kitchener, so I use Spaenor locally, but used to have a shop in Burnaby when I lived out west. Mostly hiding out in the yellow pages under "fasteners".
And I should have added a web site: www.spaenaur.com
Thanks John and Paul...I'm out West Paul, near Kamloops. Thanks for the link.
John, I apologize it's been 4 years so this isn't new.
Could I not just drill a cup in a 1 inch diameter chunk of mild steel. I need to rivet some tongs up and that seems easier based on tools at hand (I'm making the tools to be at hand :).
Yes you can. You just end up with a rivet that has a cone shape instead of the dome. Of course for tongs you can just set the rivet free hand and skip the header.
Why wouldn't you use a drill press?
A lathe is more accurate and in the long run a drill bit doesn't result in the exact depression you need, so yu still need to forge the final depression. But if you want to start in the drill press it would be just fine.
Sir do you ever have to dress your vice jaws, and if so how do you do it.
I have seen some that needed it, but I haven't had to dress mine. I would use a file if its only a little but rough and an angle grinder if its real bad, but be careful, a grinder can mess things up in a hurry
John how would I get your email
I would like to share something I forged
The best place to share images is on the FaceBook group. but if you don't use FaceBook you may email switz@mindspring.com Just make sure the file isn't overly large or it really bogs down my slow connection
hey Beavis, he said "sucker rod" . . .