The old kona (had a 22 model ) Also had a great lane keep system. I used it everywhere and it even worked on small very curvy roads to a degree. On the highway it was completely boss. My new MG4 however is a kamikaze machine from space that tries to kill me everyday so i got it turned off until they someday software adjust it even more. My suprise is how efficient my old kona was compared to the MG4. The MG is thirstyyyyyy and use bloody 25 ish far over the 18.3 New kona looks real nice though.
I'm wondering how the pricing looks like in NO, I've checked the price list and in NO the new Kona is cheaper roughly by 6.7kEUR then in Czechia, which kind a pissed me off since it is been manufactured 10km from where I live.
My ID.3 doesn't heat up the battery when AC charging (unless its really cold), it just charges really slow.. I'd rather have it to heat the battery and then charge 11kw than charge at 5kw and double the time.. So I have to jojo the last kilometers before home so the battery is warm enough to take 11kw untill 80%
The Kona 2024. EV3 big sister. Sounds like an all round great car. I prefer decent back windows view with lots of glass, but most EVs seem to go letterbox with crappy 1080-720 p camera. A pity because when you get older, sharp view or larger sharper image becomes relevant. I wonder if we can get more range from this Kona, more efficiency to 301 km @ 120 kph? I would like to see a better efficiency for this update, in winter @120 kph.
I can see that Hyundai still likes proper roof beams. In 2015 I happened to hit my head so hard in one that I got a real concussion so everything went black and white. I can still feel it and probably went a little crazy at the same time.
We bought the 2023 Kona before the new refresh design, thankfully. Felt like the whole point of the Kona was to be a subcompact SUV Crossover styled vehicle but the new one is much bigger. I suppose that's what a lot of people want? The lack of auto lifting tailgate on previous models is sort of unforgivable but not completely a deal breaker, clearly. I much prefer the center console of the previous Kona EV. I don't know why they just didn't brand this for what it is, an IONIQ SUV instead of the Kona. Little gripes, it seems to appear their NAV system suffers from slow/sluggish movement on screen still, I don't know why they haven't figured that out. You mention noise being a problem, but I don't feel it's a problem with the previous version. Actually I remember enjoying how much quieter it was over our older Scion iQ. I wonder if the new/different tires on the 2024 model make even a bigger difference in that regard. Not at all a fan of that forward eye facing sensor system they've implemented, like what's the point of having it if it still requires your hands to be on the wheel.... it would be nice to see some battery refinements in the near future for an 80KW version. Beautiful view for scenic driving!
I had the 2020 Kona. Summer range was Oslo to Bergen without having to charge. Not sure if the new one has less range but Hyundai have always been very efficient, I think they have very good regen. It's great that the 2023 version has better storage but the price has also increased quite a lot. I'm also glad they brought the info back where you can see what functions use power. This was on the 2020 but then it disappeared with a software update in 2022!
@@joshuakirsch9813 it's possible. I looked where it was before somewhere under EV but couldn't find it. Either I missed it or they removed it, got some flack and brought it back 🤔
The functions use power is still there. But it only works in wide screen mode (have to fold in the right split screen). Just click in the ev overview on the sympflified car graphic. There you will find the KW usage live overview
Even Zoe need to heat up battery for charging on AC. I was on 22 kW and needed to wait 25 minutes, feel like 1 hours before the car start to charge the battery.. What the heck!
Bjorn, on my I-Pace for some reason if you are in the car and it is unlocked the charge rate is much slower, however if you get out and lock the car the charge rate shoots up. I once watched it jump from about 40kW to about 80kW after I got out and locked the car. Just to check I got back in the car and it dropped again and when I got out and locked it again it went back up. It may be worth checking this as part of your test routine.
Normal vehicles or normal people. I am not a fan of the Kona, but it really is pretty efficient for what it is and looks like a very competent package. The pricing in North America is a little to high for what it is. It should be less expensive than the Model 3 RWD by a decent amount and it isn't. Looks to me like the Kona is under rated.
Oh man, I hope you wont burn your house down, using PTC heater laying on the back where the airflow should be is not a good idea. It shouldn't even work since there supposed to be safety switch turning the heater off when not standing upright.
How well do children see outside from their child seats? With new cars one big concern is rear windows, restricting their view... You then have to give them your phone to keep them entertained 😢
Great point, this always seems to be forgotten in family car tests. In a lot of cars when you're in the back seat you hardly have any windows and feel really confined. Bad for people suffering from car sickness.
@@petervisser853 also, some new cars have big windows, BUT they are positioned very high and ~1.55 meter (5.09 feet) people or children in their chairs can't see well outside or at all.
Optimal 10-80 41min is not that bad. With most driving styles it matches tesla model3. Model3 does 170kW when optimal on low charge but still needs 30min for 10-80 on a smaller battery. Curve on this Kona must be good. I suspect its hard to really get that 10-80 in 41 minutes.
@@fnagdungdagint Both brands have produced extremely good sounding high end audio systems, as well as low-end stuff. I don't read to much into a marketing name inside a car.
Never liked the kona, only my kona👍because of the frontcharging, frontwheeldrive which is bad in winter Norway. The place inside was tiny. The best was the consumption and the range of this car. Now they didn’t change the charging point, still frontwheeldrive 👎🏿but now its ugly too. 90% of my charging i do at home driving in the garage frontwise so front charging is a bug.
The old kona (had a 22 model ) Also had a great lane keep system. I used it everywhere and it even worked on small very curvy roads to a degree. On the highway it was completely boss. My new MG4 however is a kamikaze machine from space that tries to kill me everyday so i got it turned off until they someday software adjust it even more. My suprise is how efficient my old kona was compared to the MG4. The MG is thirstyyyyyy and use bloody 25 ish far over the 18.3 New kona looks real nice though.
I have the Ioniq EV (2016-2022), and it is an Awesome Autopilot. If the lines are visible the car does everything basically
I'm wondering how the pricing looks like in NO, I've checked the price list and in NO the new Kona is cheaper roughly by 6.7kEUR then in Czechia, which kind a pissed me off since it is been manufactured 10km from where I live.
I've spend some time in Norway, NO Thanks :)
The Ioniq 38 kWh will also run the battery heater untill the battery minimum reaches about 15-20 C when charging on AC.
My ID.3 doesn't heat up the battery when AC charging (unless its really cold), it just charges really slow.. I'd rather have it to heat the battery and then charge 11kw than charge at 5kw and double the time.. So I have to jojo the last kilometers before home so the battery is warm enough to take 11kw untill 80%
The Kona 2024. EV3 big sister. Sounds like an all round great car. I prefer decent back windows view with lots of glass, but most EVs seem to go letterbox with crappy 1080-720 p camera. A pity because when you get older, sharp view or larger sharper image becomes relevant. I wonder if we can get more range from this Kona, more efficiency to 301 km @ 120 kph? I would like to see a better efficiency for this update, in winter @120 kph.
Good car, dont have too much useless tech. Love it
Love the Kona!
The new Kona seems like a big step up from the old one. I’d get one if I was in the market for a hatchback that I didn’t need to road trip much.
You should test it with 17" wheels, the official figures shows really different consumption ;)
That's what I was thinking. How much better with 17"?
@@austin2planks WLTP difference of 60km which is alot! 17" => 514, 19" => 454
@@wootdeco 😯 17 for me then. Can't see them from inside anyway!
Also better ride quality
I can see that Hyundai still likes proper roof beams. In 2015 I happened to hit my head so hard in one that I got a real concussion so everything went black and white. I can still feel it and probably went a little crazy at the same time.
We bought the 2023 Kona before the new refresh design, thankfully. Felt like the whole point of the Kona was to be a subcompact SUV Crossover styled vehicle but the new one is much bigger. I suppose that's what a lot of people want? The lack of auto lifting tailgate on previous models is sort of unforgivable but not completely a deal breaker, clearly. I much prefer the center console of the previous Kona EV. I don't know why they just didn't brand this for what it is, an IONIQ SUV instead of the Kona. Little gripes, it seems to appear their NAV system suffers from slow/sluggish movement on screen still, I don't know why they haven't figured that out. You mention noise being a problem, but I don't feel it's a problem with the previous version. Actually I remember enjoying how much quieter it was over our older Scion iQ. I wonder if the new/different tires on the 2024 model make even a bigger difference in that regard. Not at all a fan of that forward eye facing sensor system they've implemented, like what's the point of having it if it still requires your hands to be on the wheel.... it would be nice to see some battery refinements in the near future for an 80KW version. Beautiful view for scenic driving!
I had the 2020 Kona. Summer range was Oslo to Bergen without having to charge. Not sure if the new one has less range but Hyundai have always been very efficient, I think they have very good regen. It's great that the 2023 version has better storage but the price has also increased quite a lot. I'm also glad they brought the info back where you can see what functions use power. This was on the 2020 but then it disappeared with a software update in 2022!
I think it was hidden in the update. I updated my ioniq Facelift and found it hidden in the Ev menu.
@@joshuakirsch9813 it's possible. I looked where it was before somewhere under EV but couldn't find it. Either I missed it or they removed it, got some flack and brought it back 🤔
The functions use power is still there. But it only works in wide screen mode (have to fold in the right split screen).
Just click in the ev overview on the sympflified car graphic. There you will find the KW usage live overview
For More efficiënt heating you should use infra-red heating; it wil only heat the surface (and not the whole garage)
Even Zoe need to heat up battery for charging on AC. I was on 22 kW and needed to wait 25 minutes, feel like 1 hours before the car start to charge the battery.. What the heck!
Bjorn, on my I-Pace for some reason if you are in the car and it is unlocked the charge rate is much slower, however if you get out and lock the car the charge rate shoots up. I once watched it jump from about 40kW to about 80kW after I got out and locked the car. Just to check I got back in the car and it dropped again and when I got out and locked it again it went back up. It may be worth checking this as part of your test routine.
Awsome video, i love kona so much that we have two of them 2020 model. Damn you tried the old kona with extreme low temperature -15°C and -13°C
Normal vehicles or normal people. I am not a fan of the Kona, but it really is pretty efficient for what it is and looks like a very competent package. The pricing in North America is a little to high for what it is. It should be less expensive than the Model 3 RWD by a decent amount and it isn't. Looks to me like the Kona is under rated.
It’s a very nice looking car. Range seems low though but hard to make sense of the impact of winter
Noice. Question: These results show improvements, however, what could be the factor? Aerodynamics or temperature?
Hi, what is actually Battery care? Is it notification for HV battery cooling and conditioning? Or HV Battery charging the 12V battery? Thanks
Now, the Kona has the same size as the Chevrolet Bolt EUV
Much more boot space in the new Kona
I think the premium sound system in Hyundai is made by Krell.
Anyway this Bose system sounds better than Tesla.
Is the heads up display the same as the old version or is it on the windscreen?
I wonder if the car would heat up the battery even with a lower charging current.
My old one heats up only when charging on full 11kW, if I reduce the current to 10A (cca 6.6 kW) the heater goes off
How much does that Ecoflow battery in the trunk weigh? 20kg?
There was no EcoFlow in the trunk.
Nice.
Well heating battery will get optimal capacity and then you don't coldgate on fast chargers
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Oh man, I hope you wont burn your house down, using PTC heater laying on the back where the airflow should be is not a good idea. It shouldn't even work since there supposed to be safety switch turning the heater off when not standing upright.
This is probably a heater designed to operate in a horizontal position.
It's designed for horizontal use.
1:40 haha.. Yes FWD is dead, D E D!
How well do children see outside from their child seats? With new cars one big concern is rear windows, restricting their view... You then have to give them your phone to keep them entertained 😢
Great point, this always seems to be forgotten in family car tests. In a lot of cars when you're in the back seat you hardly have any windows and feel really confined. Bad for people suffering from car sickness.
@@petervisser853 also, some new cars have big windows, BUT they are positioned very high and ~1.55 meter (5.09 feet) people or children in their chairs can't see well outside or at all.
It only needs a proper charging speed.
Optimal 10-80 41min is not that bad. With most driving styles it matches tesla model3. Model3 does 170kW when optimal on low charge but still needs 30min for 10-80 on a smaller battery. Curve on this Kona must be good. I suspect its hard to really get that 10-80 in 41 minutes.
Bose is high end..
"Bose" not high-end!? 🙂
Yeah lol, that was strange.
The previous model had Krell. Bose is a big step down.
@@fnagdungdagint Both brands have produced extremely good sounding high end audio systems, as well as low-end stuff. I don't read to much into a marketing name inside a car.
Never liked the kona, only my kona👍because of the frontcharging, frontwheeldrive which is bad in winter Norway. The place inside was tiny. The best was the consumption and the range of this car. Now they didn’t change the charging point, still frontwheeldrive 👎🏿but now its ugly too. 90% of my charging i do at home driving in the garage frontwise so front charging is a bug.
Pitty that its even more ugly now :P
Specially the wheel houses make it look so wonky. designer should get fired.
Kona is lame. We want EV9 content :) or EV-NEIN as you prefer
Horses for courses 😊 Plus, they’ll sell far more Kona’s than the EV9. 😮
Looks like crap. Engineers and designers at Hyundai: "Aerodynamics?. WTF is that?"
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