Your lectures have really changed my perspective of the world in which I live. Thank you for putting these vids up for everybody who wants to learn to be able to! You're a true Mensch Dr. Abramson.
I am looking forward to this, I am from Ireland and I have family members who were part of the Republican movement that formed the early Fianna Fail party. One of the members of the party Robert Briscoe took Jabotinski to Ireland to provide training in Guerrilla warfare. Unfortunately the government of Ireland during the war were fixated on neutrality and refused Briscoe's requests for extra visas for Jewish people fleeing from mainland Europe.
Thank you for publishing this. I live in Melbourne, Australia. I met here many years ago a Holocaust survivor from Poland who told me that he remembers hearing Zeev Jabltinsky public speech pre World War 2 and hw he urged the Jewish communities to immigrate to The Land of Israel ( the called British Palestine)
If one applies the "palingenetic ultranationalism" definition of fascism, it is the only possible label that can be applied to Jabotinski, Kahane and the neoKahanist coalition governing in today's Knesset
@@HenryAbramsonPhDI think what this person is trying to say in a very convoluted way is that Jabotinsky’s legacy is the rise of Likud and Israel’s post Yom Kippur War rightward shift, the divisive Kahanist politics inspired by Rabbi Kahane, and the state of Israeli politics today. I’m also reminded of another lecture I just watched on Jabotinsky where I think either the presenter or an audience member said a case could be made that Bibi being Israel’s longest serving PM is proof of Jabotinsky’s continued towering legacy and I think that’s what this person might be trying to say. Not saying that I agree but I’m trying to decipher their words. I’m not sure if there is a meaningful link between that part of fascism they’re highlighting and Jabotinsky’s ideas. This seems like a very superficially linear and simplified way of looking at the evolution of politics from Mandate Palestine to Israel. As for the existence of that in Israeli politics, again I think this is a very simplified way of looking at it. Way too many layers to unpack and go through and I hate pejorative buzzwords.
Jabotinsky was classic liberal, who strongly believed in individual liberties, including those of Arabs in a “ future Jewish state” ; too bad that people don’t mention it in their lectures and portray him as a military nationalist.
Thank you Dr Henry Abrahamson I love that you enjoy presenting these lectures so much. When I was growing up in Sydney NSW Australia, I was a member of B'nai Akiva, my little sister went to habonim because it was more social and we knew other kids who went to betar. I didn't know the history of jabotinsky only that there were streets and places name after him, and that there was some controversy
Mendy Ross - yes. In fact I recall reading that jabotinsky was a guest in the home of r. kahanes parents. But, that doesn't mean jabotinsky can be blamed for kahanism.
I love your lectures, very informative. Thank You Just one small correction at 48:48 you mention that the demonstration of Betar on Tisha Bav took place on the Temple Mount I think this is inaccurate as it was staged at the Western Wall instead Here's the Wikipedia entry for this: 15 August (Tisha B'Av) - The Revisionist Zionist youth leader Jeremiah Halpern and three hundred Revisionist youths from the Battalion for the Defence of the Language and Betar march to the Western Wall proclaiming "The Wall is ours". The protesters raise the Zionist flag and sing the Hatikvah. (Source: Krämer, 2008. p. 230;Segev, 2000, p. 310;Mattar, 1988, p. 46.)
📝Perhaps, Rabbi, you would like to visit and learn more about our locally born Rabbi Sasso, who lead Congregation Beracha Veshalom Vegmiluth Hasadim, (the Congregation of Blessing, Peace, and Loving Deeds) also known as the St. Thomas Synagogue for many generations during the lean years in the latter part of 19th Century.
My family comes from this exact region Odessa, maternal grandfather from Romania/ Moldova. These pogroms actually did happen, very harshly, brutally, and we were lucky to have everything destroyed (all our homes/ stores/ properties) but to escape with our lives! I don’t know about Odessa during the early 1900’s but I do know of Odessa mid century - and it was very antisemitic! Jews were not allowed to attend schools/ universities- unless you had the money to pay off the director, etc. many Ukrainians also collaborated w/ the Nazis. I know bcus my parents, grandparents lived it 1st hand and I heard such stories before I was even old enough to understand. In case anyone wants to deny.. it’s ok… as long as WE KNOW THE TRUTH! And Ze’ev Jabotinksky was a blessing from G-d to our people. I consider his own of our pioneers and founding fathers of modern Zionism and Israel… and our people-hood today. Also I think Vladimir somehow translates into Ze’ev. My father was born Vladimir or Volodimir as well… but his Hebrew name was Ze’ev. Which is. Very Interesting.
I like your analysis of political spectra, and especially how in America there is very little real difference between Republicans and Democrats. The only thing I’d add is that in America you can also use a quadrant where the x-axis is economic left/right as you had it, and where the y-axis is social left/right. Republicans tend to be more economically libertarian than Democrats (supporting the free market over regulation); but Democrats tend to be more liberal about social issues. This is, of course, oversimplified; each individual has their own proclivities that don’t always neatly fit into a quadrant.
For those who want to view the entire Jabotinsky film footage here is the link, ruclips.net/video/spOqRS1HzTY/видео.html An enlightening lecture on a highly controversial political leader. Jabotinsky is often portrayed as a one dimensional figure by his supporters and detractors. However, he was a multidimensional visionary who sacrificed a brilliant literary career for the Jewish people. His pleas to the Jews of Poland to flee from the holocaust to come fell on deaf ears. His desire to raise an international Jewish army to invade Palestine never materialized, but his efforts to raise up the individual Jewish sense of pride did come to fruition.
… Yes, i wish there was closed captioning, too. Rabbi Henry: Why do so many enlightened narrators assume that each and everyone of the audience can hear well … or godforbid, not process information as quickly? At least 10% of the populations of more “civilized” cultures use sight over audio as the chief (or only) learning device.
Sir, thank you very much for this lecture. Just a small remark - Jabotinski is speaking German, quite accented and with some Hebrew words, but German, not Yiddish, in the film shown by you.
Yiddish is German peppered with various Hebrew, Aramaic, and Polish words. A German Jew would speak with a German accent, but an Odessan like Jabotinsky would have a markedly different accent.
Listening to this nice guy not mentioning Palestine in the Balfour declaration, not mentioning who funded Jabotinsky, not mentioning Irgun, not mentioning all terror attacks against civilians, makes me understand why there are such problems in the region today.
@@HenryAbramsonPhD Sorry if I was too harsh. It was a very interesting lecture. Really. It gave a much better picture of him even if i miss the connection to the powers behind him. How could he arm and train hundreds of men in the early 20's? Who gave him money? What is the connection between Jabotinsky and 7/10? Jabotinsky was the one that introduced terrorism in the region against civilians. There were almost no antisemitism in Palestine before 1918. There were almost no antisemitism in middle east before 1948. It was a phenomenon in Europe and Russia. Jews, christians and muslims lived in peace together in Iraq, etc. The problems started when one group did unrealistic claims backed by USA and Great Britain, i.e. colonial powers. But do you really think that the most trained and equipped army in the world, could have missed what was going to happen? Egypt told Mossad. And why did it take 5-7 hours to respond? And why did Hamas stay that long? Hamas was created with help from Israel and is corrupted in the same way as Fatah. If you rule the money flow in the world, you can buy anyone. And the result will be that West Bank will be cleansed, which escalated 8/10. People in Gaza will be killed in mass until Egypt open their borders. Then the one state solution of a Jewish state can be finalized as the Biltmore conference stated 1942. Because something else has never been in the plan. BP can then take the oil under Gaza and you and I can go to bed and sleep well again until the war against Iran will start.
@HenryAbramsonPhD Mate, you uploaded this 7 years before October 7th. By you ignoring key events like the funding Jobinsky, Irgun and all the terror activities they undertook shows your bias. History is History you can't rewrite it.
Thx for the lecture :) sorry for a five year delay. His birth name was Wolf, hence he didn’t take the name Ze’ev, he just translated it to Hebrew. The russified name Vladimir (as well as Evgeny name of his father) was used unofficially because of the high level of the anti Semitic vibes in russia which exist the even today. And as mentioned before, russia and Ukraine are not synonymous, glad the west finally knew it, unglad by the costs it took.
Thank You Doctor Abramson. Illuminating as ever. Especially the pearls Re; 1903. This period of time in Eastern Europe is a bit smudged. I want to know exactly why a family goes crypto.
All the early Zionist leaders were secular Jews. Many were anti-religious. It is impossible to speak of the history of Zionism without discussing these “enemies of the Torah.” But if you would rather just focus on Kook, Alkali, and Kalischer, and to ignore the others, you are more than welcome to.
Great video. I noticed you don’t use the term Palestine. You call it Israel although at that time even the name Israel for the Jewish State has not been invented yet and the whole project was nothing but an idea. My history professors wouldn’t have tolerated this terminology.
Your abstract of the talk begins, "Zionist ideologue and multi-lingual journalist, Vladimir (Ze'ev) Jabotinsky ...". "Ideologue" is a disparaging term. Unless it's your intent to signal your disapproval of Jabotinsky, you'd be better off using a more neutral term. Or you could simply leave out the word "ideologue". What's wrong with simply describing him as "Zionist and multi-lingual journalist, Vladimir (Ze'ev) Jabotinsky ..."?
Your lectures have really changed my perspective of the world in which I live. Thank you for putting these vids up for everybody who wants to learn to be able to! You're a true Mensch Dr. Abramson.
I am looking forward to this, I am from Ireland and I have family members who were part of the Republican movement that formed the early Fianna Fail party. One of the members of the party Robert Briscoe took Jabotinski to Ireland to provide training in Guerrilla warfare. Unfortunately the government of Ireland during the war were fixated on neutrality and refused Briscoe's requests for extra visas for Jewish people fleeing from mainland Europe.
Enjoy in good health
Excellent lesson, the best channel of jewish history.
Thank you for your kind words, I appreciate the feedback!
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Great lecture, one of your best!
This is another A M A Z I N G lecture, thank you again Dear Dr. Abramson!
Well done.Very interesting.(from a Greek) !
Thank you, Dr. Abramson. Very informative.
Thank you for publishing this.
I live in Melbourne, Australia.
I met here many years ago a Holocaust survivor from Poland who told me that he remembers hearing Zeev Jabltinsky public speech pre World War 2 and hw he urged the Jewish communities to immigrate to The Land of Israel ( the called British Palestine)
Brilliant, Dr Abramson.
Have you ever considered of doing a biography on Meir Kahane?
Jabotinsky was a modern Israeli hero !
Very interesting and informative, as usual - thank you.
If one applies the "palingenetic ultranationalism" definition of fascism, it is the only possible label that can be applied to Jabotinski, Kahane and the neoKahanist coalition governing in today's Knesset
I don't know what that means.
@@HenryAbramsonPhDI think what this person is trying to say in a very convoluted way is that Jabotinsky’s legacy is the rise of Likud and Israel’s post Yom Kippur War rightward shift, the divisive Kahanist politics inspired by Rabbi Kahane, and the state of Israeli politics today.
I’m also reminded of another lecture I just watched on Jabotinsky where I think either the presenter or an audience member said a case could be made that Bibi being Israel’s longest serving PM is proof of Jabotinsky’s continued towering legacy and I think that’s what this person might be trying to say. Not saying that I agree but I’m trying to decipher their words.
I’m not sure if there is a meaningful link between that part of fascism they’re highlighting and Jabotinsky’s ideas. This seems like a very superficially linear and simplified way of looking at the evolution of politics from Mandate Palestine to Israel. As for the existence of that in Israeli politics, again I think this is a very simplified way of looking at it. Way too many layers to unpack and go through and I hate pejorative buzzwords.
This gentleman is a fine teacher and an effective communicator.
Thanks!
Fantastic film ofJab, thank you! 💖
Brilliant lecture! 👍
Yaaaay you're back! :D I love your Jewish History talks!
Jabotinsky was classic liberal, who strongly believed in individual liberties, including those of Arabs in a “ future Jewish state” ; too bad that people don’t mention it in their lectures and portray him as a military nationalist.
Mmmm debatable. He founded Irgun and conducted multiple terrorist attacks on Arab civilians and British soldiers.
I see that someone also watched the Revisiting Jabotinsky lecture that I just came from 😅
Thank you Dr Henry Abrahamson I love that you enjoy presenting these lectures so much. When I was growing up in Sydney NSW Australia, I was a member of B'nai Akiva, my little sister went to habonim because it was more social and we knew other kids who went to betar. I didn't know the history of jabotinsky only that there were streets and places name after him, and that there was some controversy
Glad you enjoyed the lectures!
Do you think Meir Kahane was influenced by Jabotinsky?
Mendy Ross - yes. In fact I recall reading that jabotinsky was a guest in the home of r. kahanes parents. But, that doesn't mean jabotinsky can be blamed for kahanism.
I love your lectures, very informative. Thank You
Just one small correction at 48:48 you mention that the demonstration of Betar on Tisha Bav took place on the Temple Mount
I think this is inaccurate as it was staged at the Western Wall instead
Here's the Wikipedia entry for this:
15 August (Tisha B'Av) - The Revisionist Zionist youth leader Jeremiah Halpern and three hundred Revisionist youths from the Battalion for the Defence of the Language and Betar march to the Western Wall proclaiming "The Wall is ours". The protesters raise the Zionist flag and sing the Hatikvah. (Source: Krämer, 2008. p. 230;Segev, 2000, p. 310;Mattar, 1988, p. 46.)
Thank you very much!
Is it possible to view the whole film of Jabotinsky that you showed a clip? If so where would I have to go to see it?
Henry Abramson Thank you I will.
📝Perhaps, Rabbi, you would like to visit and learn more about our locally born Rabbi Sasso, who lead Congregation Beracha Veshalom Vegmiluth Hasadim, (the Congregation of Blessing, Peace, and Loving Deeds) also known as the St. Thomas Synagogue for many generations during the lean years in the latter part of 19th Century.
My family comes from this exact region Odessa, maternal grandfather from Romania/ Moldova. These pogroms actually did happen, very harshly, brutally, and we were lucky to have everything destroyed (all our homes/ stores/ properties) but to escape with our lives! I don’t know about Odessa during the early 1900’s but I do know of Odessa mid century - and it was very antisemitic! Jews were not allowed to attend schools/ universities- unless you had the money to pay off the director, etc. many Ukrainians also collaborated w/ the Nazis. I know bcus my parents, grandparents lived it 1st hand and I heard such stories before I was even old enough to understand. In case anyone wants to deny.. it’s ok… as long as WE KNOW THE TRUTH! And Ze’ev Jabotinksky was a blessing from G-d to our people. I consider his own of our pioneers and founding fathers of modern Zionism and Israel… and our people-hood today. Also I think Vladimir somehow translates into Ze’ev. My father was born Vladimir or Volodimir as well… but his Hebrew name was Ze’ev. Which is. Very Interesting.
In Italian, "Altalena" means "swing", but with no reference to music. Altalena is 'seesaw', the kids' playground toy.
I like your analysis of political spectra, and especially how in America there is very little real difference between Republicans and Democrats. The only thing I’d add is that in America you can also use a quadrant where the x-axis is economic left/right as you had it, and where the y-axis is social left/right. Republicans tend to be more economically libertarian than Democrats (supporting the free market over regulation); but Democrats tend to be more liberal about social issues. This is, of course, oversimplified; each individual has their own proclivities that don’t always neatly fit into a quadrant.
For those who want to view the entire Jabotinsky film footage here is the link,
ruclips.net/video/spOqRS1HzTY/видео.html
An enlightening lecture on a highly controversial political leader. Jabotinsky is often portrayed as a one dimensional figure by his supporters and detractors. However, he was a multidimensional visionary who sacrificed a brilliant literary career for the Jewish people. His pleas to the Jews of Poland to flee from the holocaust to come fell on deaf ears. His desire to raise an international Jewish army to invade Palestine never materialized, but his efforts to raise up the individual Jewish sense of pride did come to fruition.
Big time fan here in Miami....
It's a great pity that there are no English subtitles.
… Yes, i wish there was closed captioning, too. Rabbi Henry: Why do so many enlightened narrators assume that each and everyone of the audience can hear well … or godforbid, not process information as quickly? At least 10% of the populations of more “civilized” cultures use sight over audio as the chief (or only) learning device.
Back then you were using "Ukrainians" and "Russians" as synonyms. I suppose you learned it by now
He died in Hunter, NY. at a Betar summer camp
Sir, thank you very much for this lecture. Just a small remark - Jabotinski is speaking German, quite accented and with some Hebrew words, but German, not Yiddish, in the film shown by you.
Yiddish is German peppered with various Hebrew, Aramaic, and Polish words. A German Jew would speak with a German accent, but an Odessan like Jabotinsky would have a markedly different accent.
Listening to this nice guy not mentioning Palestine in the Balfour declaration, not mentioning who funded Jabotinsky, not mentioning Irgun, not mentioning all terror attacks against civilians, makes me understand why there are such problems in the region today.
I also neglected to mention the massacre, rape and kidnapping on October 7. Does that help?
@@HenryAbramsonPhD Sorry if I was too harsh. It was a very interesting lecture. Really. It gave a much better picture of him even if i miss the connection to the powers behind him. How could he arm and train hundreds of men in the early 20's? Who gave him money?
What is the connection between Jabotinsky and 7/10? Jabotinsky was the one that introduced terrorism in the region against civilians. There were almost no antisemitism in Palestine before 1918. There were almost no antisemitism in middle east before 1948. It was a phenomenon in Europe and Russia. Jews, christians and muslims lived in peace together in Iraq, etc. The problems started when one group did unrealistic claims backed by USA and Great Britain, i.e. colonial powers.
But do you really think that the most trained and equipped army in the world, could have missed what was going to happen? Egypt told Mossad. And why did it take 5-7 hours to respond? And why did Hamas stay that long? Hamas was created with help from Israel and is corrupted in the same way as Fatah. If you rule the money flow in the world, you can buy anyone.
And the result will be that West Bank will be cleansed, which escalated 8/10. People in Gaza will be killed in mass until Egypt open their borders. Then the one state solution of a Jewish state can be finalized as the Biltmore conference stated 1942. Because something else has never been in the plan. BP can then take the oil under Gaza and you and I can go to bed and sleep well again until the war against Iran will start.
@HenryAbramsonPhD
Mate, you uploaded this 7 years before October 7th. By you ignoring key events like the funding Jobinsky, Irgun and all the terror activities they undertook shows your bias. History is History you can't rewrite it.
Thx for the lecture :) sorry for a five year delay.
His birth name was Wolf, hence he didn’t take the name Ze’ev, he just translated it to Hebrew. The russified name Vladimir (as well as Evgeny name of his father) was used unofficially because of the high level of the anti Semitic vibes in russia which exist the even today. And as mentioned before, russia and Ukraine are not synonymous, glad the west finally knew it, unglad by the costs it took.
Dear Professor: Encore!
Thank you! You can always hit "replay."
Why does a ‘historian’ keep referring to Palestine as Israel?
Because that’s what the Jewish people have know it as for millennia.
Because it’s called Israel, not Palestine
It's always been Israel
@@TheLastMisesian Not according to factual history - not you’re warped view of it
Because he’s a European supremacist and a g3noc!dal colonizer.
Thank You Doctor Abramson. Illuminating as ever. Especially the pearls Re; 1903. This period of time in Eastern Europe is a bit smudged. I want to know exactly why a family goes crypto.
Isn't this guy an enemy of the Torah. Why are you presenting his ideas, why aren't you attacking them?
Why would you claim so James?
All the early Zionist leaders were secular Jews. Many were anti-religious. It is impossible to speak of the history of Zionism without discussing these “enemies of the Torah.” But if you would rather just focus on Kook, Alkali, and Kalischer, and to ignore the others, you are more than welcome to.
Great video. I noticed you don’t use the term Palestine. You call it Israel although at that time even the name Israel for the Jewish State has not been invented yet and the whole project was nothing but an idea. My history professors wouldn’t have tolerated this terminology.
A zionist!
Your abstract of the talk begins, "Zionist ideologue and multi-lingual journalist, Vladimir (Ze'ev) Jabotinsky ...". "Ideologue" is a disparaging term. Unless it's your intent to signal your disapproval of Jabotinsky, you'd be better off using a more neutral term. Or you could simply leave out the word "ideologue". What's wrong with simply describing him as "Zionist and multi-lingual journalist, Vladimir (Ze'ev) Jabotinsky ..."?
Because he was absolutely, by all definitions, an Ideologue.
A Nazi
Zionism is Nazism
Fascinating how you purposefully don’t refer to PALESTINE before 1948, but call the land instead “Israel.”
Because it’s called Israel not Palestine, Palestine never existed
@@Yisħoq_HaLevi If the state of Israel was not founded in Palestine, then where was the state of Israel founded?
@@carl-frederike.mordechai5063 in Judea
G3nocidal fascists like Nazis and Zionists always try to rewrite history to cover up their crimes and lay claim to land they have no right to.