Darn Sigma be killing it. I bought the 65mm f/2 recently and took it on a trip to Quebec recently and it performed really well. I am glad it somehow held up despite being caught in a downpour (I may have thought it was more weather resistant than it actually is oops). Also loved the sunstars it made during longer exposures
If the magnetic cap had a tab in the center, maybe 12mm x 12mm or perhaps a tad bigger, you could grasp the tab with the lens hood on no problem. If the tab also had a hole, say 6mm diameter, then you could use a carabiner or similar. The I-series, I think, is particularly desirable for hybrid shooters that mount there cameras on gimbals as they are smaller and lighter and would make mounting and balancing easier. The only issue with them is the generally high focus breathing, but I can live with that.
I can only say that I love Samyang's Tiny series and they also have better aperture and weigh less on my Sony A7C, so for me there is no doubt I choose Samyang Greetings from Denmark
While I do love sigma with there excellent build quality the samyang 24mm f1.8 for me is just perfect and would love to see a comparison with the 24mm GM, another great review Dustin, thank you for all that you do 📷👍🔥
About the magnetic lens cap, I do think it's insufficiently designed by Sigma, they designed it with "looks" in mind over functionality. But there is a workaround to the cap+hood issue. Just take a long strip of tape, fold it in a T shape with the upper edge of the T being the sticky edge and apply the sticky edge to the lens cap. This should work and give you an easy way to remove the lens cap while the hood is on. The wider the T shape, the more safely it will grip on the cap.
That's a tough question, actually. It's been so long since I've tested the Batis that it would be hard to give an accurate head to head recommendation. I think the Sigma is probably slightly superior because it is so much newer.
Just got the Samyang but then I got the Sigma bc build did look better. After watching several reviews and just testing it in hand I really do like the Samyang. I'll be sending the Sigma back. I am wondering how much better the G is compared to the Samyang.
The Samyang is a really strong lens. Yes, the Sigma does have the better build, but there is something undefinable about the Samyang that is really special.
I think Sigma's build quality, aperture ring are enough to justify its price premium over Samyang 24f1.8 however Samyang delivers stunning corner to corner sharpness. Another disadvantage of Samyang is correction support either in camera or in raw software. In this day and age, lenses were designed to have compromises easy for software correction like vignette and distortion. As long as the end result is great, I don't mind it comes from the combination of optical design and software correction.
Great review, thanks Dustin, especially for the comparison with the Samyang which indeed feels like it's its main competitor. Other reviewers seem to compare to the slower lenses, which feels a bit odd to me. If the price difference holds then that plus the weight difference mean I'll probably go for the Samyang after all.
Thank you for your comprehensive reviews, I find them very useful.. On the fence between the Samyang and the Sigma (being a Fuji user leaning more towards the Fuji, however budget says something else) Does the SIgma I series also require the additional dock for firmware updates ?
The sigma I series is really evolving their optical range. The early slower 24 has better mfd and more compact so it gives other possibilities at 24mm - probably as an equivalent to the tamron semi macro prime. The faster 24 has not only the extra light advantage but also appears to have finer gradations of rendering from 2 to 5.6. I suspect they will bring down the price of the older 24. The 45 for sony is now selling at half the price. The samyang is great value and it really comes down to which rendering one prefers & the build. Personally for video I feel the sigma lenses are more tactile with the beautiful aperture dial and for mf in certain situations. All the ff cameras (2 series onwards are stabilized) and the new cameras are coming with both ibis and digital stabilization. The choice on the sony platform is growing more and more as is the increasing technology and range of products. Meanwhile looking forward to your review of the sigma 90/2.8. And as usual much appreciation of your reviews
Hello. As the owner of this glass from the owner, I want to ask. The preset on the aperture, the so-called declic, bothers me. When the petals are always open and close only when the shutter is pressed, to the set value. Is it possible to shoot without this function?
DG DN 14-24mm f2.8 Consider it well, 9ver this f2. It is very handable, truely excellent, weather sealed, (it's also an excellent 21, a 18, 16 and 14mm ;-) But I do get that 24mm f1.4 with it's wide apperture it is truly also more than just one focal length lens.
If I upgrade to full frame this will be my favorite 24mm prime. Sony 24 1.4 is to expensive, Tamron 24 2.8 is much cheaper still looks much cheaper too.
@@acouragefann The mentioned Samyang seems to vary a fair bit in the iq department from one specimen to the next. See Marc Alhadeffs comparison to this Sigma, Photographyblogs review or Lenstip's. This is true of most lenses I guess but it was noticable for this lens; if I was okay without an aperture ring and a more plasticky build I would at least buy it from a shop with a good return policy : )
Indeed there are so many 24mm options in E-mount recently adding the 24mm G 2.8 which is the lightest one while having all the premium build quality factors but in optics marginally weak in corners while still great in mid frame. I hope sigma 24mm 3.5 gets some good rebates making it around 400$ or less to be my choice of all! Totally agree with you, that lens looks to be too overpriced now!
That is right. I like Samyang and use the 35mm f1.8. But the Sigma is more fun to use. The build quality and the aperture-ring - the sigma feels more like a vintage lens. I like that. For me it is evertime a hard decision between Sigma and Samyang. And at the end, i often choose samyang. The samyang is the logical decision (for me).
I understand that these series of lenses is “premium yet compact”. But I’m just not feeling these sigma lenses. If I’m going to go compact/light, I’ll go Samyang. If i want premium, I’ll go first party Sony. For me, to me, Sigma has lost the plot and I’m just not feeling the value proposition here.
Today's video has really terrible audio. Noise level is way higher than usual, and some unpleasant interference in the night boat scene, night star scene. And I only listened to it on my phone's speaker, imagine on my desktop nearfield monitors.
I don't think that the noise level is actually higher, but there was some unusual interference on the image quality section, which is weird, as that is recorded using a broadcast style wired mic on an isolating stand.
Darn Sigma be killing it.
I bought the 65mm f/2 recently and took it on a trip to Quebec recently and it performed really well. I am glad it somehow held up despite being caught in a downpour (I may have thought it was more weather resistant than it actually is oops). Also loved the sunstars it made during longer exposures
They are lovely little lenses.
If the magnetic cap had a tab in the center, maybe 12mm x 12mm or perhaps a tad bigger, you could grasp the tab with the lens hood on no problem. If the tab also had a hole, say 6mm diameter, then you could use a carabiner or similar.
The I-series, I think, is particularly desirable for hybrid shooters that mount there cameras on gimbals as they are smaller and lighter and would make mounting and balancing easier. The only issue with them is the generally high focus breathing, but I can live with that.
Not a bad suggestion.
I have as my traveling kit the Sigma 24mm f2, 65mm f2 and 90mm f2.8. Gives me a light kit, but really covers the bases for me on my a7riii.
That's a nice little kit.
That barrel distortion though, puts barrels around the world to shame.
LOL - great line!
I can only say that I love Samyang's Tiny series and they also have better aperture and weigh less on my Sony A7C, so for me there is no doubt I choose Samyang
Greetings from Denmark
I do like what Samyang is doing with the tiny series, though these Sigmas are next level in terms of build.
While I do love sigma with there excellent build quality the samyang 24mm f1.8 for me is just perfect and would love to see a comparison with the 24mm GM, another great review Dustin, thank you for all that you do 📷👍🔥
I really enjoy the Samyang as well.
About the magnetic lens cap, I do think it's insufficiently designed by Sigma, they designed it with "looks" in mind over functionality.
But there is a workaround to the cap+hood issue. Just take a long strip of tape, fold it in a T shape with the upper edge of the T being the sticky edge and apply the sticky edge to the lens cap. This should work and give you an easy way to remove the lens cap while the hood is on. The wider the T shape, the more safely it will grip on the cap.
That might work. Basically a tab to grip.
Sigma needs fix on all their lenses these days lol...
Great review as usual. How would you rate this against a used Zeiss Batis 25mm f/2? They are about the same price.
That's a tough question, actually. It's been so long since I've tested the Batis that it would be hard to give an accurate head to head recommendation. I think the Sigma is probably slightly superior because it is so much newer.
Size aside, how does this stack up against the Sigma 24mm f/1.4 Art lens?
I personally like this lens better. I think it is definitely as sharp if not sharper at F2, and the size is so much more convenient.
@@DustinAbbottTWI In comparison to the Sony 24 mm G master, how do you feel it stacks up?
Just got the Samyang but then I got the Sigma bc build did look better. After watching several reviews and just testing it in hand I really do like the Samyang. I'll be sending the Sigma back. I am wondering how much better the G is compared to the Samyang.
The Samyang is a really strong lens. Yes, the Sigma does have the better build, but there is something undefinable about the Samyang that is really special.
I think Sigma's build quality, aperture ring are enough to justify its price premium over Samyang 24f1.8 however Samyang delivers stunning corner to corner sharpness. Another disadvantage of Samyang is correction support either in camera or in raw software. In this day and age, lenses were designed to have compromises easy for software correction like vignette and distortion. As long as the end result is great, I don't mind it comes from the combination of optical design and software correction.
That's fair.
I hope Sigma can bring these out for the RF mount
Absolutely. So far RF has been a third party wasteland.
thank you for the review, if i ask, what brand base plate do you have on your sony A1? thank you.
Great review, thanks Dustin, especially for the comparison with the Samyang which indeed feels like it's its main competitor. Other reviewers seem to compare to the slower lenses, which feels a bit odd to me.
If the price difference holds then that plus the weight difference mean I'll probably go for the Samyang after all.
It's hard to argue against the Samyang. It's maybe their best lens yet.
Thank you for your comprehensive reviews, I find them very useful.. On the fence between the Samyang and the Sigma (being a Fuji user leaning more towards the Fuji, however budget says something else) Does the SIgma I series also require the additional dock for firmware updates ?
The Sigma should be updated through the camera like a Sony lens.
Thanks for the video review! Can this lens be paired with Sony A6400 without compromise in image quality?
I think it can.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you
The sigma I series is really evolving their optical range. The early slower 24 has better mfd and more compact so it gives other possibilities at 24mm - probably as an equivalent to the tamron semi macro prime. The faster 24 has not only the extra light advantage but also appears to have finer gradations of rendering from 2 to 5.6. I suspect they will bring down the price of the older 24. The 45 for sony is now selling at half the price. The samyang is great value and it really comes down to which rendering one prefers & the build. Personally for video I feel the sigma lenses are more tactile with the beautiful aperture dial and for mf in certain situations. All the ff cameras (2 series onwards are stabilized) and the new cameras are coming with both ibis and digital stabilization. The choice on the sony platform is growing more and more as is the increasing technology and range of products. Meanwhile looking forward to your review of the sigma 90/2.8. And as usual much appreciation of your reviews
Solid take
Hello. As the owner of this glass from the owner, I want to ask. The preset on the aperture, the so-called declic, bothers me. When the petals are always open and close only when the shutter is pressed, to the set value. Is it possible to shoot without this function?
That's the nature of autofocus on Sony - the camera autofocuses at the largest maximum to allow for the most accurate autofocus.
Great review Dustin ! Thank you!
My pleasure!
DG DN 14-24mm f2.8
Consider it well, 9ver this f2.
It is very handable, truely excellent, weather sealed,
(it's also an excellent 21, a 18, 16 and 14mm ;-)
But I do get that 24mm f1.4 with it's wide apperture it is truly also more than just one focal length lens.
The 14-24mm is an excellent lens if someone doesn't mind a slightly smaller aperture and a somewhat larger lens.
A thoroughly well constructed review of a high quality lens that I might just buy. Not a fan of Samyang lenses whatever their virtues.
It’s a nice lens, for sure.
How many 24mm primes offer OSS / IBIS? Am I missing something?
Very, very few, though they do exist.
If I upgrade to full frame this will be my favorite 24mm prime. Sony 24 1.4 is to expensive, Tamron 24 2.8 is much cheaper still looks much cheaper too.
Me too! The image quality, build quality and price of this series is just incredible.
What makes you prefer it over the samyang? Faster, weather sealed, great image quality and a nice astro button for less money.
@@acouragefann It looks much nicer and more expensive. And I like aperture ring.
It's definitely true that these have a nice balance of price, size, and premium quality.
@@acouragefann The mentioned Samyang seems to vary a fair bit in the iq department from one specimen to the next. See Marc Alhadeffs comparison to this Sigma, Photographyblogs review or Lenstip's. This is true of most lenses I guess but it was noticable for this lens; if I was okay without an aperture ring and a more plasticky build I would at least buy it from a shop with a good return policy : )
hi, what's the brand of the bottom bracket?
It’s from Smallrig: bit.ly/smallrigDA
Indeed there are so many 24mm options in E-mount recently adding the 24mm G 2.8 which is the lightest one while having all the premium build quality factors but in optics marginally weak in corners while still great in mid frame. I hope sigma 24mm 3.5 gets some good rebates making it around 400$ or less to be my choice of all! Totally agree with you, that lens looks to be too overpriced now!
I do think we are approaching market saturation. That's four quality options released in the past year alone.
Samyang 24 1.8 outperforms Sigma in focus breathing, close-up, coma, sun star, size, price.
It's a strong lens, for certain. The Sigma definitely has the nicer build, though.
That is right. I like Samyang and use the 35mm f1.8.
But the Sigma is more fun to use. The build quality and the aperture-ring - the sigma feels more like a vintage lens.
I like that.
For me it is evertime a hard decision between Sigma and Samyang.
And at the end, i often choose samyang. The samyang is the logical decision (for me).
Sigma renders better with better colors, contrast, transitions and oof
I understand that these series of lenses is “premium yet compact”. But I’m just not feeling these sigma lenses. If I’m going to go compact/light, I’ll go Samyang. If i want premium, I’ll go first party Sony. For me, to me, Sigma has lost the plot and I’m just not feeling the value proposition here.
The good news is that Sigma is developing multiple lines for different kinds of customers.
Most def. i can tell you like these lenses, i do not. But who knows, maybe my tastes will change over time.
The rendering of these sigmas is signifizntly better than samyang lenses
Today's video has really terrible audio. Noise level is way higher than usual, and some unpleasant interference in the night boat scene, night star scene. And I only listened to it on my phone's speaker, imagine on my desktop nearfield monitors.
I don't think that the noise level is actually higher, but there was some unusual interference on the image quality section, which is weird, as that is recorded using a broadcast style wired mic on an isolating stand.