Finally got my gullikit sticks perfect on my alps frame. no rubbing at all. Thanks to your video and suggestions. I had issues with the ribbon cable delaminating after repeatedly opening it to test the sticks. If anyone has issues with the ribbon cable delaminating at the contacts like I did, just cut off the delaminated part, exposing fresh contacts. also Make sure to cut one of the corners some to make inserting it into the connector a little easier. (like the shape of an SD card) If this doesn't work for you, there's replacements on amazon for 5$
@@metalplasticelectronics354 They have a premium feel when compared to original ones. Sticks also feel softer than alps. I really enjoy playing with gulikit sticks. Thank you so much
On the first k silver ones, i noticed there was up down movement on the axis causing up to 6% movement, also when rumble motors were left in, when you raised the controller it would also add to the issue with interferance. I tried welding the axis but still had issues. Went ahead and got a few hundred gulikit modules instead.
I'm having the same circularity issue. Nothing makes sense why this is happening mechanically. It's gotta be something going on with the sensors in my opinion. Maybe it picks up rise and fall differently. Idk, I thought these K-Silvers were good but I think they're not quite there. Hopefully the HALLPI TMR will be the cheaper alternative to GuliKit.
I noticed this same behavior on Ginfull v4 on xbox gamepads. Usually undershoot on the right side. When going counter clockwise. I do shave a bit off the tip of the stem. But that behavior was there before trimming plastic. After initial calibrations.
I've seen a little bit of this behavior even on some potentiometer joysticks. This is just the most striking example of it. The shaft of the joystick is pushing on some very thin plastic for the up-down motion. Any binding or rough area on the plastic could cause some strange problems. At this point, I'm about 90 percent sure that it is a mechanical problem. I'm very interested in seeing what it does after being used for a few hours, well tens of hours.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 I did notice the magnetic on the opposite side of the button has up and down play. I don't think that's specifically the cause, but perhaps the internals shift around when rotating. K silver does seem a bit dodgy at times.
It's coming from the joystick. The voltage from that axis is lower if the stick is moved counterclockwise compared to clockwise. And it's lower by about 100 millivolts, a lot.
I had the same issue with k-silver tmr on dualsense right stick. After numerous calibrations it somehow fixed itself. Still can't rich little spot on top right corner for a little, but it's ok for me. But I do not recommend to buy k-silver tmr at this point.
I suspect it might be some friction in the joystick. It's just so strange that I would get the same problem with two joysticks. In comparison, the other 3 I've installed are fine. I'm still thinking about what the problem could be. I'll keep an I on it and see if it improves. If so then it's probably just a rough spot on one of the pieces of plastic in the joystick.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 Cool, I'll wait for your video then hehe. Maybe he will try to compete with TRM, right? Do you happen to have a link to where you bought it?
I’ve just swapped to Hall effect modules and the lack of resistance compared to potentiometers is something that is hard to get used to especially in fps games
They were from Amazon and the seller was intec gaming. They have easy calibration within the module where you just use a screwdriver. I do not know much besides that. I will be excited to see the review of the more stiffer modules!
yes! I also found out my issue after installing they say to adjust sensitivities to account for the lack of resistance and now they feel a little better
There are good deals on aliexpress for gulikit without the thumbknob, do you need to trim / cut them to use the original dualsens thumbknobs like you did on the ksilver ?
There's not going to be an electronic sensor type joystick that will be faster than a potentiometer joystick. But the GuliKit and the K-Silver are the fastest I've tested. Fast enough I don't think anyone could tell the difference.
If I moved the joystick straight up it was closer to the clockwise value. Wouldn't have to move it much counterclockwise to reach the counterclockwise value.
ive installed a few sets of these ksilver tmr... they have the issue turning left or right and not getting the complete circle coverage you described. idk what is the deal? any ideas why its happening? would love to hear your thoughts.
I haven't had time to get back on it. I was going to use the controller for a few weeks to see if it breaks in some. My feeling is it is some kind of binding in the axis arm. But I do plan on doing an update on it.
@ yeah, so I did a bdm 020 for someone with the ksilver tmr, and well the board decided to crap out after calibrating and finishing. So naturally I went and removed the potentiometers and the magnet because I had a fresh bdm050 to install on, I figured I would try and fit them on stock alps box after removing the alps potentiometers. I noticed the ksilver tmr magnets are not snug on the stick box they are kind of loose! This might be the cause. The other thing, they don’t sit on stock alps stick box because they are too loose, the hole needs to be wider. My thinking is, can you try and put a dab of superglue on ur ksilver magnets and see if it has the same result clockwise and counterclockwise? Idk what else it could be. The sticks work fine in games. I have 0 issues. No complaints from my customers or my bro in law.
@ doing repairs or upgrades for others. The gulikit are not very cost effective. When I can get 10 sticks for 12 to 14 dollars if I go k silver tmr or ginful. I just don’t feel gulikit offers good value. They are making a killing on these modules
If the thumb knob was made to use with the standard joystick then you shouldn't have to. The K-Silver looks to be the same height. This was to get the GuliKit thumb knobs to fit.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 ya your right about that i guess but if u have more then 1 controller and you know how to repair them u can cut it off and try diff sticks. the aim knockoff sticks off amazon are pretty nice. i have 6 controllers now that they can be repaired with the calibration website.
@ So if your other K-Silver modules don’t have this problem and only these two do, it must be related to something happening when you shaved down the shafts, right?
Except there was a comment that they had a K-Silver doing the same thing. I don't see how trimming the shaft would affect the up-down axis. The comment said theirs got better over time so I'm just going to give it a bit and see what it does.
I bought these and it was a mistake the radius is a deal breaker. Black ops for example auto run does not work properly unless you calibrate in game which means the game has to offer this feature and it just sucks you have to fix the dead zone. My radius had to be changed to 85 percent on the right stick and 95 percent on the left to get it to function as intended please don't recommend
I tested 5 pairs and they are trash, it doesn’t hold center that well, circularity is really bad. I tried 4 different controllers with no luck. Gulikit is the way to go. I’ve tried other Hall effect sticks like ginfull, favor union etc and Gulikit is by far my favorite. I have the HALLPI TMR on the way, they should arrive this weekend. I heard they are the same as Gulikit.
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Thank you for continuing to make videos like this. Learning so much watching your channel
Thanks
Thank you for including the click feel in the review ❤
Finally got my gullikit sticks perfect on my alps frame. no rubbing at all. Thanks to your video and suggestions. I had issues with the ribbon cable delaminating after repeatedly opening it to test the sticks. If anyone has issues with the ribbon cable delaminating at the contacts like I did, just cut off the delaminated part, exposing fresh contacts. also Make sure to cut one of the corners some to make inserting it into the connector a little easier. (like the shape of an SD card) If this doesn't work for you, there's replacements on amazon for 5$
Some rubber-coated tweezers will help the flex cables survive longer.
Thanks a lot for your videos. I watched your videos and bought Gulikit sticks last month and they are amazing. Thank you so much
What is your opinion of the GuliKit thumb knobs?
@@metalplasticelectronics354 They have a premium feel when compared to original ones. Sticks also feel softer than alps. I really enjoy playing with gulikit sticks. Thank you so much
I was hoping I wasn't the only one who liked them.
Awesome Video! I have the guilikit TMR's in my 2 controllers slight rub on them so I trimmed them like you have and voila! no rubbing thanks!
Glad it helped.
Use thumbsticks rings when you calibrate analogs and move only in one direction. That will fix your problem.
Sounds plausible.
@a8f235 I fix controllers, i know all about that 🙂
@@walterwolfgaming And hopefully this chap will see your comment and try it.
What do you mean only one direction? On the “rotate thumbsticks” part?
@@ChummyBoy Yes, rotate clockwise only
hello can you do a review on the Hallpi which are apparently tmr also thank you and continue what you are doing
I have some on order.
Same manufactor behind both. Its just relabeling.
On the first k silver ones, i noticed there was up down movement on the axis causing up to 6% movement, also when rumble motors were left in, when you raised the controller it would also add to the issue with interferance. I tried welding the axis but still had issues. Went ahead and got a few hundred gulikit modules instead.
I'm having the same circularity issue. Nothing makes sense why this is happening mechanically. It's gotta be something going on with the sensors in my opinion. Maybe it picks up rise and fall differently. Idk, I thought these K-Silvers were good but I think they're not quite there. Hopefully the HALLPI TMR will be the cheaper alternative to GuliKit.
I noticed this same behavior on Ginfull v4 on xbox gamepads. Usually undershoot on the right side. When going counter clockwise.
I do shave a bit off the tip of the stem. But that behavior was there before trimming plastic. After initial calibrations.
I've seen a little bit of this behavior even on some potentiometer joysticks. This is just the most striking example of it. The shaft of the joystick is pushing on some very thin plastic for the up-down motion. Any binding or rough area on the plastic could cause some strange problems. At this point, I'm about 90 percent sure that it is a mechanical problem. I'm very interested in seeing what it does after being used for a few hours, well tens of hours.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 I did notice the magnetic on the opposite side of the button has up and down play. I don't think that's specifically the cause, but perhaps the internals shift around when rotating. K silver does seem a bit dodgy at times.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 Maybe its a calibration issue? Could be software bug
It's coming from the joystick. The voltage from that axis is lower if the stick is moved counterclockwise compared to clockwise. And it's lower by about 100 millivolts, a lot.
Hi, pls do a review with the new joysticks ginfull v6
almost finished with it.
Maybe the fall is slightly slower than rise due to lingering ghost influence from the speaker?
I had the same issue with k-silver tmr on dualsense right stick. After numerous calibrations it somehow fixed itself. Still can't rich little spot on top right corner for a little, but it's ok for me. But I do not recommend to buy k-silver tmr at this point.
I suspect it might be some friction in the joystick. It's just so strange that I would get the same problem with two joysticks. In comparison, the other 3 I've installed are fine. I'm still thinking about what the problem could be. I'll keep an I on it and see if it improves. If so then it's probably just a rough spot on one of the pieces of plastic in the joystick.
I have the same problem on the right stick but it doesn't affect anything
Is it in the same spot?
@@metalplasticelectronics354 spot is the same. Roundness was exactly like on your video.
There must be some binding friction in the up-down axis arm.
Can I install the TMR sticks in a dual sense edge and use a calibration board I've seen several people do with the hall effects?
Yes
When's the ginfull v5s review coming out
launched, do you have a link?
I just got them in the mail, so maybe a week.
@@rgbroot AliExpress
@@metalplasticelectronics354 Cool, I'll wait for your video then hehe. Maybe he will try to compete with TRM, right? Do you happen to have a link to where you bought it?
www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807862278582.html But min size was 20 pcs. Someone should sell smaller packs.
I’ve just swapped to Hall effect modules and the lack of resistance compared to potentiometers is something that is hard to get used to especially in fps games
Which Hall Effect sticks? I'm fixing to test the Ginfull V5S sticks, they are supposed to be a bit stiffer.
They were from Amazon and the seller was intec gaming. They have easy calibration within the module where you just use a screwdriver. I do not know much besides that. I will be excited to see the review of the more stiffer modules!
Did they look like these? ruclips.net/video/EvxadoGFpc4/видео.htmlsi=jR99bh4JedvsRfGm
yes! I also found out my issue after installing they say to adjust sensitivities to account for the lack of resistance and now they feel a little better
Where can we buy the K Silver TMR modules???
The link for where I bought them is in the description of this video: ruclips.net/video/UG9aZgA79vU/видео.htmlsi=e9fm2WrzCvLoB7h9
They’re out of stock from that link. Darn it
I wouldn't buy them, go gulikit.
There are good deals on aliexpress for gulikit without the thumbknob, do you need to trim / cut them to use the original dualsens thumbknobs like you did on the ksilver ?
No the original knobs fit fine on the GuliKit joysticks. You don't have to do any modifying.
my man thats awesome test but i think this ksilver tmr are standart and not the JS16
Yes they should be the JS13 models.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 maybe js16 are better?
I think the JS16 is a different mechanical design, but I'm not positive. K-Silver has a pretty good website and can look at what they make.
Are the guili kit joysticks faster than a potentiometer based joystick?
There's not going to be an electronic sensor type joystick that will be faster than a potentiometer joystick. But the GuliKit and the K-Silver are the fastest I've tested. Fast enough I don't think anyone could tell the difference.
what's new exists for xbox elite 2?
What happens if you swap them? The right and left one. Is it some issue with the controller itself 🤔
I don't know, I'm still thinking about it. The controller plays great, at least for the games I use it for.
@metalplasticelectronics354 what are the values when you go up from the middle and move a bit left right, like in a game?
If I moved the joystick straight up it was closer to the clockwise value. Wouldn't have to move it much counterclockwise to reach the counterclockwise value.
put gulikit tmrs on 5 ds5s in the household (3 for my partner's ps5 and 2 for my pc) and im so happy with them
Sometimes it is worth splurging for the best.
ive installed a few sets of these ksilver tmr... they have the issue turning left or right and not getting the complete circle coverage you described. idk what is the deal? any ideas why its happening? would love to hear your thoughts.
I haven't had time to get back on it. I was going to use the controller for a few weeks to see if it breaks in some. My feeling is it is some kind of binding in the axis arm. But I do plan on doing an update on it.
@ yeah, so I did a bdm 020 for someone with the ksilver tmr, and well the board decided to crap out after calibrating and finishing. So naturally I went and removed the potentiometers and the magnet because I had a fresh bdm050 to install on, I figured I would try and fit them on stock alps box after removing the alps potentiometers. I noticed the ksilver tmr magnets are not snug on the stick box they are kind of loose! This might be the cause. The other thing, they don’t sit on stock alps stick box because they are too loose, the hole needs to be wider. My thinking is, can you try and put a dab of superglue on ur ksilver magnets and see if it has the same result clockwise and counterclockwise? Idk what else it could be. The sticks work fine in games. I have 0 issues. No complaints from my customers or my bro in law.
Yes, the K-Silver doesn't fit an Alps frame very well. The GuliKit sensors seem to be a pretty good fit on the Alps frame.
@ doing repairs or upgrades for others. The gulikit are not very cost effective. When I can get 10 sticks for 12 to 14 dollars if I go k silver tmr or ginful. I just don’t feel gulikit offers good value. They are making a killing on these modules
Do you need to trim them to use the extremerate thumbstick v3?
If the thumb knob was made to use with the standard joystick then you shouldn't have to. The K-Silver looks to be the same height. This was to get the GuliKit thumb knobs to fit.
So these k-silver tmr sticks doesn't have adjustable magnets?
That is not the issue.
No they don't
Can you do a review of the "HALLPI" TMR joysticks from the AKNES store?
I have some on order from aliexpress, maybe they will get here.
@2.59 u could of just cut the dust cover off the joystick then u can swap sticks till u find what u want
Those dust covers keep a lot of junk out of the joystick.
@@metalplasticelectronics354 ya your right about that i guess but if u have more then 1 controller and you know how to repair them u can cut it off and try diff sticks. the aim knockoff sticks off amazon are pretty nice. i have 6 controllers now that they can be repaired with the calibration website.
the evil sticks come pre trimmed at the bottom so u can just swap them
Did you test the problematic modules to see if the same issue shows up when using the original Dualsense plastic caps?
Yes, same thing.
@ So if your other K-Silver modules don’t have this problem and only these two do, it must be related to something happening when you shaved down the shafts, right?
Except there was a comment that they had a K-Silver doing the same thing. I don't see how trimming the shaft would affect the up-down axis. The comment said theirs got better over time so I'm just going to give it a bit and see what it does.
@ 7.47 calibrate and test with stock knobs.
It's not in the video but I did try it with the DualSense knobs, same thing.
I bought these and it was a mistake the radius is a deal breaker. Black ops for example auto run does not work properly unless you calibrate in game which means the game has to offer this feature and it just sucks you have to fix the dead zone. My radius had to be changed to 85 percent on the right stick and 95 percent on the left to get it to function as intended please don't recommend
Which one did you have trouble with?
Them Ksikver stick sucks
Why
I tested 5 pairs and they are trash, it doesn’t hold center that well, circularity is really bad. I tried 4 different controllers with no luck. Gulikit is the way to go. I’ve tried other Hall effect sticks like ginfull, favor union etc and Gulikit is by far my favorite. I have the HALLPI TMR on the way, they should arrive this weekend. I heard they are the same as Gulikit.
@@southernstyle8835 did you tried hallpi Tmr ?
@@aditesto7918 not yet, I have 2 pairs on the way. They should arrive this weekend. I heard it’s the same as Gulikit.
lost count of how many times you said "joysticks"