we also need a better presentation for the offline modes then I would be satisfied.and we finally need better stick handling and realistic skating animation like in nhl 14 which look smoother than the current ones
Add the world juniors to be a pro? Be a pro and franchise need a complete rebuild. I miss being addicted to this game:( When it’s nothing but a roster change every year for offline modes it makes the game feel less meaningful. EA PLZ SAVE US.
@@Legoface660 yanno it’s more of an expression. Like I was 14 when this game was good and now I’m 21 and it’s just a mess every year. There a reason it’s the least played major sports league game out of them all brotha. If that’s what u picked up from that I have a feeling ur a covid baby or highly autistic. AND that’s fine lmao, but no need to stim in the comments buddy.
Ea hearing this: “thanks but we already have the next 5 chel games ready to go. (Every game is the same with minute band-aid fixes that slightly differentiate them from each other)
Last GOOD NHL was 20 or 21...I can't really remember which. But during pandemic it was playable.. NHL 22, 23 AND 24 ARE UNPLAYABLE GAMES. I RETURNED 24...FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I RETURNED AN NHL GAME.
I made a post on the EA NHL forum about bad defensive AI being the cause of most of the game's problems, and the community manager responded and told me to learn how to manually defend and stop expecting the AI to do it for me... This let me know that not a single person at that company knows anything about hockey. I can't control all 5 skaters at once, and one lapse by the AI just abandoning his man for no reason causes a complete breakdown of the defense. THIS is what leads people to play defense like a constant penalty kill (see also. skill zone). But like you said, rather than address the root of the issue, they bandaid it another way: make offense clunkier because otherwise the braindead defensive AI would look even worse. Now you've got crap offense and crap defense...and thus, a crap game.
so based on that response from EA, if you're playing position lock as C, LW or RW don't expect your AI dmen to defend lol. Do you have a link to your forum post?
The band-aiding comment might be the biggest takeaway from this video. Just look at the pressure system, instead of fixing how pressure was gained (good shot, bad shots, normal passes, sauce passes, one touch passes) they just change the amount you need. then eventually nerfed full pressure so bad, that it's not even a mechanic anymore. Great Job Eki.
Agreed. They've had 30+ years to figure this game out. Their response is to just patch things the community exploits instead of trying to make a proper game. It's pathetic. Case & Point...you can't edit your lines within a game, and backup goalies serve zero purpose. I know i know, synergies is what the EA community manager said. I said "really? that's what you want from your game?" i'm so sick and tired of this corporation. I went to EA Vancouver last year, was hoping to talk to devs about the game. turned out it was just a play test and wasn't an open discussion. They literally have zero money from me the last 2 years, though i've played for free as i love hockey. But this corp does nothing to earn our money. it's just a non-stop effort to suck us dry
I was watching some clips from NHL 19 the other day (imo the best of the PS4 era NHL games) and was blown away by how good it felt. Yea the back skating was unrealistic, but it created a skill gap and it was fine because you had the defensive tools to combat it. Keep a close gap, wait for them to face you, and then stick lift them. Now you can't even stick lift or poke check. Imo bring back the back skating cheese, and just lower the puck control and balance of players when they do it. Make them easier to knock off the puck when they back skate and the problem fixes itself. I agree with what you said about the band-aids. This applies to "skill zone" defense as well, or players just standing in front of the net instead of actively defending. If you just make a higher variety of snipes and one timers from more areas viable scoring chances, all of a sudden players will start actively defending. Instead they tried this stupid fatigue system that failed so miserably they scrapped it almost entirely. Their solutions are always just so bad it blows my mind.
Great list but the problem is this. Product team compiles customer feedback like this, determines the cost / time it would take to implement, bring the project to the board to get approved, but immediately get denied and respond with "The only net new features that we will approve for the game are features that have a mechanism to generate a revenue stream, other than that, it's keep the lights on". Team goes back to the drawing board, realize HUT is the only thing that keeps revenue flowing, and the next proposal consists of events that will make the game miserable for the FTP player (IE, Trade Deadline). To slap a feature tag on it, they will change the color scheme of the menus or add some minor graphics in the arena. The fact that "Be A Pro" was the exact same thing from the opening scene, and amazingly the dialogue engine was broken and worse then 23 is sort of the writing on the wall. It's a slap in the face when your release another iteration of the game with modes that are worse of then the previous year. That shows that they really don't care about the customer experience and they have a very lazy development and QA team who are just going through the motions.
I couldn't agree more with the ridiculous band-aiding issue. L2 spam, poke checks. I'll throw in the lacrosse goal as well. Spent so much time learning how to hit it. Then, 24, they make it a button press. Now it's OP asf so they nerf the hell out of it so it's slow and unrealistic. Awesome! Now it's pointless to go for whether you use skill stick or toddler control. Great job!
The recent EA NHL games can best be described as feeling like "arcade hockey", flashy abilities, cool looking dekes and saves, and massive hits. But the lack of strategy and fundamental hockey is annoying. AI is either too aggressive or too passive, it has no consistency.
Super on point video. Iva had the exact thoughts about the create your own view. I loved it. And the created plays as well, loved them. I've been playing online since 2006 so I've seen the great evolutions and horrible removal of loved items as well. Thank you eki for bringing these up.
All the points you make have been in my mind for YEARS. It's good that you finally make a proper video like this. The community doesn't demand enough from EA. The game should be COMPLETELY overhauled. The AI, THE AI, THE AI, THE AI, player switching, luck elements in every area (goalies, bounces, passes, shots etc) etc. All your points are 100% true and important.
This right here is the problem. You keep buying the game even though there's so many issues with it. If you don't know about the development process, it's called MINIMUM VIABLE PRODUCT for a reason. As long as what's there is enough for you to buy it, there's no reason to incur any cost to improve it.
@@doncx1313 Well, I quit buying it years ago because of the continuous problems so I'm not a part of the problem. I've been trying to be a part of the solution (even though the problems won't be solved, people will keep buying the game and packs). So yeah, I agree with you.. Just not me who's part of the problem.
We need full presentation back in this game… bring stuff from nhl 14 and add things we see irl at the arenas from sights and sounds… we need the arena shots back as well just make it feel like tv and move the damn scoreboard back to the normal spot like tv
I play Eashl exclusively. I would love to see more “pro” and less arcade. The games don’t need to be 7-5 every time. Human goalies need to be more fluid-it’s like moving a bus compared to skaters. Even if we need two different Eashl modes, such as Pro and Arcade, and each has their own tuner depending on the experience wanted, I know of many league players that would love a realistic hockey game. Getting rid of L2 was a great start-now let’s remove unrealistic hits, fumbling goalies, and skaters that never lose the puck even though they’ve been hit several times. Get rid of X Factors and Silver Perks for Eashl-the game is so much better when we remove them from skaters during league games. Great video.
Sports games should not be overly realistic. Urealistic with some realistic features is the way to go. Either way I agreed with everything you said. Good video eki
Even if EA addresses all these problems for 25. They will immediately become broken once the first gameplay update releases after the first two weeks of release. It happened with 22, 23, and 24.
Agree. They spend a year developing the game, then change it within 2 weeks because people freak out and won't give it a chance. I honestly wish patches weren't a thing. Just make the best game you can and leave it alone.
Oh yea and they have to find a way so that 95% of the playerbase is something else than a 5'7 160pounds 95 speed 95 accel sniper. It's so boring how everyone's a lightweight this year.
Completely agree with you you on most of this. The problem is ea makes so much money they are ok with selling a polished turd and calling it a new game. It's horrible.
You guys comment like. EA or any other game companies care. The business model has changed. Gone are the days where game development mattered. They have literally fired most game development staff and have brought on specialists in human behavior to figure more ways to get microtransactions
The issue is people still feed this company millions and they don’t give a shit about it. Maximize profits with minimal effort. They need a wake up call.
Only if it benefits him and HUT. he dont care about anything else in the game. Remember how much they complained about certain XFs and abilities. Tougie has complained about crap in Franchise mode for years and years and it hasnt even been sniffed. How does this dude get this changed pretty much over night.
I like what u said about goalies. It’s very inconsistent but that is how it is like in real life. Players have really good games and really bad games. I do think there needs to be a mechanic where the goalies and AIs adjust to things. Basically like what u said about the goalies adjusting to how they’re being scored on. I think that’s a fantastic idea and it would mean there would be a variety of different goals being scored bc u can’t just keep on scoring the same thing over and over and over again.
Great video! Unfortunately I don't see EA making big changes anytime soon. I'd like to add, in EASHL Human goalies, all goalies really, passes and loose pucks going towards the goalie should be automatic saves. I swear almost every game you can pass it in or the defenseman will put it in their own net. Gotta eliminate those kind of goals. Overall you hit most points I've been talking about. It's frustrating when a new NHL game comes out and the AI somehow becomes worse. I stepped away from HUT and Versus because the AI is atrocious which a simple feature you mentioned is let us be able to customize AI. When I'm skating with the puck at a certain spot I want my AI to go where I want them to go. Not watch them skate sideways away from a dangerous area. I used to be a top player on the xbox side when online first started and as the years went by I just couldn't handle how worse AI got. I really don't understand how you keep playing but clearly you adapt to how the game needs to be played while I refuse to play like that. With all that being said, I really hope EA SPORTS NHL team watches this video and understands the changes they need to focus on.
Your right so many things can be fixed....but oh man the players getting stuck and locking in to each other momentarily drives me crazy! How is this not have been fixed all year lol
What I hate the most is the full pressure that saps your energy in an instant and then you can't do anything. It's so stupid. And on top of it, if you were shorthanded, then you're officially fucked. Like... we're already down a man... isn't it enough of a disadvantage?
A few small things in HUT: Stats should be locked to a player, not a card. If I switch my McDavid from tradeable base to untradeable base to TOTW, to x factor to TOTY.. his stats should stay and not be reset each switch. I actually like HUT Rush, it's a fun simple way to get cards.. but there should be NO animations or replays in it! It should be rushed, score and reset. Daily challenges should be removed and we should get multi staged weekly. So if you can't play for 2h per day but can play for 14 one day a week you should not miss out on rewards. Daily makes it feel to much like a chore. For franchise mode I just want some stuff back from the olden days.. Give me the opportunity to train my players and chose what they need to improve on! This makes it so the staff also includes trainers. A decade ago I could put a player to work on his skating and during the season and offseason that's what he's doing. Give me back the option to chose my players style of play. Since the drafting position fools us way to often despite having A+ scouts it's needed to change them. Be a pro: As long as we don't have an actual story mode for be a pro I do not care, scrap it until you work out a good story mode.
The thing that bothers me the most about EA is that they made the game so arcade like. I prefer the more broadcasting realistic gameplay. Like I hate the new zooming in celebrations and the animations on the boards. Just keep it realistic and I miss the old commentary. The new one is just so boring. The broadcasting in NHL 19 was perfect
Yup its why Im not pre ordering 25. Why order a game that needs a day 1 patch? Then its broken even worse than it was when it was released. Besides that, the rosters are always a mess, they havent touched Be a Pro in at least 5 years, franchise mode and on top of all that just wasnt satisfied with the Pre Order bonuses along with them removing "Loyalty Packs". its not worth the extra 50 bucks to get a bonus Hut card and a couple chel bags that i will never use
Support every word you said! My solution: - bots Al - goalies Al - make strategies work (add strategy "personal defence") - sit backslide body chech to powerful. Any touch and you fall
Idk how it would work but some other gaming company should try making a street hockey game or roller hockey game if that’s even legal not sure if ea has rights to all types of hockey games or just nhl but I think if a competitor were to do that and make it the way we all are saying in these comments than that would slowly push ea out or force them to make better quality nhl games… a man can dream can’t he 🤷♂️😅
EA doesn’t even have rights to NHL games so a new competitor could technically make a new game this year if they wanted to. It would just be such a huge what if for success that i don’t see it happening. Maybe 2KSports ?
great vid! I'm not sure if they should remove "puck luck" if they're going for a sim. that's one of three ways on how you win a hockey game IRL; going on a run, not being injured and puck luck or things going your way.
Simple AI improvements - if I'm skating at a teammate, the teammate gets out of the way instead of trying to cock-block me, if I'm on a 2 on 1, my teammate goes to the net hard, he doesn't slow up and stop at the blue line or veer off to the side to check out a chick in the front row. Goalies are either impossible to score on in some situations or too easy to score on in others, bring that to somewhere in between, I know obviously some shots are way easier to save than others, but take the outside one-timers for example, they never go in, that's lame. Get rid of the pressure system, pressure in the zones comes naturally, better players know how to deal with it, you don't need an artificial mechanic to simulate pressure. Get rid of the breaking glass, it almost never happens irl and in the game it gets old after the first time, but I'm sure if they do remove it, EA will tout it as a NEW FEATURE! Stick checking, yes it was overpowered once but now players sticks are ghost like unless you want to work on your penalty kill - let player sticks intercept passes and knock pucks away sometimes, the computer-controlled players have yoda level sticks that hit the puck from 20 feet away and force choke your grandma for good measure. And when you do separate an opponent from the puck, don't have the puck magnetically go to one of their teammates every, single, time. Let the player win puck battles along the boards every once in a while, instead of losing every battle even if you have 3 players vs 1 AI player. Stop disallowing every goal where the offensive player even looks at the goalie the wrong way, goalies face contact all the time without goals being disallowed. Improve rewards and pack drops, they were absolute dogshit this year - and have them scale as the year goes on, an 86 should not be a purple drop in July. OK I'm done ranting and EA will do none of this, lol.
I agree, bring back the backskating, but give the players less balance, agility, and strength when performing it so it is not game breaking. It was a great tool in previous NHLs that allowed you to perform a delay when entering the zone, control the puck near the boards/ blue line and protect the puck (A + LT mechanic). But they removed it because recreational players who have never watched a damn game of hockey in their lives didn't know how to deal with it and labeled it as unrealistic.
My favourite animation is when you shoot the goal, and during the celebration the scorer gets literally bent out of shape, like a contortionist to the 999th power. Also: I've gotten a few one-timers from the distance done, but either you need to be very lucky, or you need a deflection. I still need to learn crease to crease like you showed.
Dude everything u said here i agree! I just complained about people spamimg one timers/cross creases on reddit and it's literally to defend it! especially with the bonehead ais! its crazy thats why i dont even like playing online really because of this! Just make the controls simple again like NHL 14!
Passing is also so obsolete and garbage in this game! It either goes way wide of where ur aiming or it passes to a teammate ur not even aiming for! 😂like wtf this isnt hockey at all!
The news of a new scoreboard was huge,and I think working on a new revamped franchise mode & settings would be even more of a step forward for EA.With the ability to control more during the franchise season would make that much more of a impact instead of just having control over one team in franchise mode and players being waived and traded without your permission.
I think if they increase the rate at which one timers are scored they should also increase pass difficulty and pass interceptions too. The only pass that should be allowed to get through traffic is a saucer pass.
8:32 is a fantastic point, even as someone who would love a game that gets as close to that as possible. a 100% realistic hockey game would not only be quite unfun overall, but it would be borderline unplayable for online matches.
I think when most people complain about the realism, they want physics that make sense. Skating, turning, hits, pickups, goalie deflections… idk if anyone who plays competitively is in favor of glass or stick breaks.
My recollection starts and ends between NHL 96-2004. Compu scoring vs my 100/100 teams was fascinating. Usally when the CPU opponent have had no shots at all and I was ahead like 40-0 you started to see fourth liners skate unstoppable (no matter who or how hard you hit them with) become completely unstoppable. You hit them all you want but they'd skate roughly just past the blue line and make a "humongous shoot" (one which a demented sloth with severe brain injury would stop by just standing there) and in it goes. No matter if Martin Brodeur was you goalie or late years DiPietro. It would go in. Somehow. Goalie became transparent. That "keeping the AI in the game" was laughable and games could end 50-8 due to that even the AI was forechecked out of all posession through the game. Sounds EA still has this feat. XD These nobody fom nowhere literally became Forsberg or Fedorov on godmode. No way getting puck off their stick dirty or clean just flopping the puck to net from almost neurtal zone. :P I usually spent the rest of the game making sure their IR was full of top line players by hitting them (as well as goalies) as dirty as ever possible (I think there was max tree injuries for CPU team but it looked brutal)... Also Stupid AI players made it so that it was easier to score on shorthanded than on 5-5 or powerplay. XD Maybe these days you can use real money to make your goalie play a shotout game. :P
Hope we'll finally have new logos, jerseys templates to customize in offline mode, been the same ones for 10+ years... I agree with offline/online tuner...its still a video game, shots will always be like 60 for a team and about 10 for the other
I like to play be a pro but it really needs improvements. So many bugs and stupid challenges. For example to get tape to tape x factor you need to do 30 breakaway passes and it's almost impossible to get them because 90% of those passes don't recister to breakway passes.
Agreed on everything but the luck elements like stick breaking and what not, but that's probably because I mainly only play offline and against friends, so seeing my mate lose all his marbles because his last chance on scoring was ruined by a stick break is kinda funny :D
NHL 21 was the last good NHL game until they patched it to death. It had weight on the passes, skating, actually needed skill to land checks and the cross crease cheese was gone. But the casuals complained it was too hard and it had been arcade again ever since.
As a dman, it's hard to even play this game anymore. Every year, our kit just gets more and more useless. Poke check timing has to be so precise, yet even if you do everything right, your skater turns into a statue, and they just keep it and skate away on their breakaway. Also they need to teach people how to play 3s. Dmen are supposed to be involved, and it's man on man coverage. So sick of seeing ppl play 3s like it's 6s.
One of the more frustrating things to me is when you are in close trying to shoot a rebound and instead of playing the puck your player just checks a player and gets an interference penalty.
Yea man I feel like this doesn’t get talked about enough for some reason, it was never an issue until this game like wtf were they thinking when they made these new controls? Can’t be guys who play the game regularly, so frustrating lol
Ive allready said it... U should work for E.A.! 🤯 ur 100% on the point! The only thing that make me continue to play this y is the 3 y plan. If nhl25s not much much better... I'll quit!
The thing that makes me so mad is all the broken goals. I poke check the puck off the attackers stick 3 times, and yet he still picks it up and scores from right in front. Or it goes off his skate and my goalie stretches for no reason and lets it in 5 hole. Also, the pressure system makes no sense bc the AI goalie with 0 energy makes a back door robbery but lets in a muffin point shot just because my defender has heatseaker. I also can’t stand the defence mechanics in the game anymore. I agree they had to nerf it for the pro players who were easily spamming hits and poke checks, but it’s just not realistic. After coming home from a long day at school or work, I don’t want to have to time my hits. I want to blow off some steam and destroy the AI. And I don’t want to put it on rookie because then it’s not challenging or fun. They should have kept the old, easy hitting when you set the game style to arcade, but keep the new style for competitive style. That way everyone gets what they want. The pike checking also makes no sense because why does my character lose 90% of his speed when I go for a single pike check. Or I poke and my defender goes nowhere near the puck. I’ll be having fun because I’m up 2-0, and then the most broken goal goes in, not because I get beat, but because something dumb happens. It makes me so frustrated and I never want to play more than one game at a time. It’s such a shame that we have no other options for hockey games because I would switch in a heartbeat
I dont think EA has a “make AI moar smarter” switch to flip. I dont think the fix is as simple as you suggest. Goalies play like “superman” sometimes and play like absolute trash sometimes in real life too. There is no way to fix this. The goalies always play the same, its not like there is a code in the background running saying your goalie will play like garbage this game. Its the opponent that youre playing making the goalies look bad or good. Pucks SHOULD be able to go through goalies when theyre in position. If they didnt, there would be way less goals in real life and in the game. The goalies are almost always in position on the game, nobody would ever score. There SHOULD be more animations to make the game more fluid and vary more. When there are less animations for the game to choose from, the same animation is used 20 times a game and looks unrealistic and sometimes the animations arent the best for each super unique situation. There are infinity unique situations in every game you play, we need more animations so we can have better hits, puck pickups, etc. You should NOT be able to spam poke, players dont do it in real life because it doesnt work. There should be a downside to it. Every one timer in real life does NOT go in. Finally EA got it right here. Some go in, some dont. Every single little one timer shouldnt be going in the net. Just some of my opinions as a former top player. I havent bought the last 2 games, i waited for game pass access so i did get to play. What i actually want, is less x factor and ability type features. EA is turning the game into a MOBA or something with all the abilities. What is the point of having stats, if a player can just have truculence and be able to hit anyone despite their checking stats?
I don't get why options so ahead of their time back then are now not implemented in the game many years later. When i play online vs. I don't dont want to play a locked position I have tested all these games from years back till now. One thing that would be cool they could implement. When you're in training mode and do team practice mode. Why is it in team practice mode. You can't play with a locked position? You should be able to mess with strategies for people who aren't familiar or want to learn mechanics better it would be a great way to be able to see how players move around on the ice. Another thing i did. If you go to a regular play now game. And plug two controllers in Obviously nobody's on the other controller but if you start a game and you control your team you can mess with the strategies and you can see as you start to move a little bit players will start to swap positions and move into other formations. I wanted to get a real sense of how bad the AI is. I've gone as far as picking two teams. And letting the computer play. I was curious to see how the computer on computer gameplay is And I did Because I want to see how they as the AIs are moving around and playing the game. And it won't shock you because they can't do s***. You would expect if you put it into computer mode you could sort of watch and learn how the players on each team maneuver and see the physics. I was trying to figure out if there's something I don't know with the mechanics And I'll tell you it's not the case. It drives me nuts though. AI can't keep up That's something I'll never understand. In the last thing I'll say is in any of the regular offline modes they have that setting where you can mess with the sliders. But who the hell wants to do that in offline mode. I'm not expecting to be able to go online versus and set my skater speed to 100 and max everybody out but there's several settings in there including something called AI learning. This will adjust how quickly the computer adjusts to your playing habits. You can set this bar 0 to 6. It's unfortunate they can't make some sort of like advanced setting like when you're tuning your car and racing game to your specific liking you should be able to do that to your player. I only say this also because. I grew up skateboarding and there is a new skate game out called session. And the physics over the years that they have implemented into a controller is absolutely insane. EA used to make skate games. Getting that s*** down to a science that some people that don't skate don't understand it. But EA needs to figure something out. I won't buy another one after 25. I've said that since 21 and I have hoping something would change. I mean for Christ's sake. They have cross-play mode. But you can't play online versus. You could only play Xbox to Xbox or PlayStation to PlayStation. You have the world of chill option in the hockey ultimate team option and you have to use your s***** overall 72 of a team to play a friend with the same it's just not fun. They don't even allow you to go into world of chell on cross play and free skate with the buddy. I went on weeks ago and I thought yeah I think we can free skate shoot the puck to each other practice playing lock positions I was just absolutely f****** appalled. Get your s*** together EA
i need everyone who brown noses chel 14 to actually go back and play it. I don't have any experiences with the newer games but as someone who just recently upgraded from 12, 14 has so many issues, its incredibly sluggish and near impossible to play defence with. Also imo realism in chel drives the depth of the game. No need to do actual breakouts when any pass connects, and blaming puck luck is often cope
Hope EA really focus on the actual gameplay this time, and not on the secondary factors. Too many weird animations in NHL 24, it's far away from esports game right now tbh.
I agree 100% but its too late for ea to fix any of this. All they do is break the game claim to fix it for the new game but didn’t instead they broke something else. Tbh ea is just incompetent theres no hope for a decent game from them anymore
Womp womp about the mechanics, I agree they are bad, but because I want it to be much more realistic, able to cycle, and still complex, I like the chance of stuff not working, messing up because of xyz that’s out of my control.
Start by not making it into an unrealistic garbage arcade game, the movement of the players and skating is so jittery and laughable, like they’re moving on crack
Honestly the gameplay is too fast which makes it unrealistic….every out there seems to be Conner mcdavid n players who don’t & wouldn’t do things in real life have the ability to do things they either wouldn’t do in real life or don’t have the skill to for example a Ryan traces shouldn’t be able to do the Michigan or a player let’s say like Tyler myers shouldn’t be able to either things like that are what make the game unrealistic player attributes need to actually make a difference if a player has bad puck control or 80 speed they need to play like they do
I wish they would get rid of the time limits on moment’s and grinding for cards. I’m older with a family, job etc I can’t play enough to unlock cards ! They make it to time consuming and hard !
EA has incentivized goal scoring and offense for years. It’s only natural that people poke spam like they did in 23 and speed boost hits in 24 because their options are really limited and every maneuver is do or die with how the AI plays.
i hope they slow down the gameplay in eashl. In the 23-24 versions, there are fewer great goals. everyone plays the same boring counterattack and rebound game. for example, with powerplay it would be possible to circulate the puck more realistically. it would be great if the game at least resembled ice hockey when playing power play?
My Solution was - Stop buying the game. At least until I see that the reviews will be good... and EASports has not have a good review on their hockey game for quite a few years. Main issue I think is that EASports doesn't have any competition anymore therefore they don't have to make an effort to convince us to buy their products.. if you want a hockey game you HAVE TO get their game. NHL (the league) needs to break that stupid deal they made with EASports... but alas money talks!!!
Good video it would be nice Ea Making the Ai better in NHL 25 but ea cant make the game better with patches in NHL 24 it gets worse.so I have no hope with NHL 25
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we also need a better presentation for the offline modes then I would be satisfied.and we finally need better stick handling and realistic skating animation like in nhl 14 which look smoother than the current ones
Add the world juniors to be a pro? Be a pro and franchise need a complete rebuild. I miss being addicted to this game:( When it’s nothing but a roster change every year for offline modes it makes the game feel less meaningful. EA PLZ SAVE US.
@@lovellmiles it's better not to be addicted though
@@Legoface660 more of an expression no?
@@Legoface660 yanno it’s more of an expression. Like I was 14 when this game was good and now I’m 21 and it’s just a mess every year. There a reason it’s the least played major sports league game out of them all brotha. If that’s what u picked up from that I have a feeling ur a covid baby or highly autistic. AND that’s fine lmao, but no need to stim in the comments buddy.
@@lovellmiles yeah
Ea hearing this: “thanks but we already have the next 5 chel games ready to go. (Every game is the same with minute band-aid fixes that slightly differentiate them from each other)
Fixes? This game gets worse and worse every year
@@Yambag also ea makes the game even worse with the patches every year lol
Last GOOD NHL was 20 or 21...I can't really remember which. But during pandemic it was playable..
NHL 22, 23 AND 24 ARE UNPLAYABLE GAMES.
I RETURNED 24...FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I RETURNED AN NHL GAME.
I made a post on the EA NHL forum about bad defensive AI being the cause of most of the game's problems, and the community manager responded and told me to learn how to manually defend and stop expecting the AI to do it for me...
This let me know that not a single person at that company knows anything about hockey. I can't control all 5 skaters at once, and one lapse by the AI just abandoning his man for no reason causes a complete breakdown of the defense.
THIS is what leads people to play defense like a constant penalty kill (see also. skill zone).
But like you said, rather than address the root of the issue, they bandaid it another way: make offense clunkier because otherwise the braindead defensive AI would look even worse. Now you've got crap offense and crap defense...and thus, a crap game.
so based on that response from EA, if you're playing position lock as C, LW or RW don't expect your AI dmen to defend lol. Do you have a link to your forum post?
The band-aiding comment might be the biggest takeaway from this video. Just look at the pressure system, instead of fixing how pressure was gained (good shot, bad shots, normal passes, sauce passes, one touch passes) they just change the amount you need. then eventually nerfed full pressure so bad, that it's not even a mechanic anymore.
Great Job Eki.
Agreed. They've had 30+ years to figure this game out. Their response is to just patch things the community exploits instead of trying to make a proper game. It's pathetic. Case & Point...you can't edit your lines within a game, and backup goalies serve zero purpose. I know i know, synergies is what the EA community manager said. I said "really? that's what you want from your game?" i'm so sick and tired of this corporation. I went to EA Vancouver last year, was hoping to talk to devs about the game. turned out it was just a play test and wasn't an open discussion. They literally have zero money from me the last 2 years, though i've played for free as i love hockey. But this corp does nothing to earn our money. it's just a non-stop effort to suck us dry
I was watching some clips from NHL 19 the other day (imo the best of the PS4 era NHL games) and was blown away by how good it felt. Yea the back skating was unrealistic, but it created a skill gap and it was fine because you had the defensive tools to combat it. Keep a close gap, wait for them to face you, and then stick lift them. Now you can't even stick lift or poke check. Imo bring back the back skating cheese, and just lower the puck control and balance of players when they do it. Make them easier to knock off the puck when they back skate and the problem fixes itself. I agree with what you said about the band-aids. This applies to "skill zone" defense as well, or players just standing in front of the net instead of actively defending. If you just make a higher variety of snipes and one timers from more areas viable scoring chances, all of a sudden players will start actively defending. Instead they tried this stupid fatigue system that failed so miserably they scrapped it almost entirely. Their solutions are always just so bad it blows my mind.
Great list but the problem is this. Product team compiles customer feedback like this, determines the cost / time it would take to implement, bring the project to the board to get approved, but immediately get denied and respond with "The only net new features that we will approve for the game are features that have a mechanism to generate a revenue stream, other than that, it's keep the lights on". Team goes back to the drawing board, realize HUT is the only thing that keeps revenue flowing, and the next proposal consists of events that will make the game miserable for the FTP player (IE, Trade Deadline). To slap a feature tag on it, they will change the color scheme of the menus or add some minor graphics in the arena. The fact that "Be A Pro" was the exact same thing from the opening scene, and amazingly the dialogue engine was broken and worse then 23 is sort of the writing on the wall. It's a slap in the face when your release another iteration of the game with modes that are worse of then the previous year. That shows that they really don't care about the customer experience and they have a very lazy development and QA team who are just going through the motions.
I couldn't agree more with the ridiculous band-aiding issue. L2 spam, poke checks. I'll throw in the lacrosse goal as well. Spent so much time learning how to hit it. Then, 24, they make it a button press. Now it's OP asf so they nerf the hell out of it so it's slow and unrealistic. Awesome! Now it's pointless to go for whether you use skill stick or toddler control. Great job!
The recent EA NHL games can best be described as feeling like "arcade hockey", flashy abilities, cool looking dekes and saves, and massive hits. But the lack of strategy and fundamental hockey is annoying. AI is either too aggressive or too passive, it has no consistency.
Super on point video. Iva had the exact thoughts about the create your own view. I loved it. And the created plays as well, loved them. I've been playing online since 2006 so I've seen the great evolutions and horrible removal of loved items as well. Thank you eki for bringing these up.
EKI U READ MY FUCKING MIND
Same 😂👍
@@Chris-qz8hd i mean jesus i hate nhl 24 i came back after 3 years 1 month ago hate it
All the points you make have been in my mind for YEARS. It's good that you finally make a proper video like this. The community doesn't demand enough from EA.
The game should be COMPLETELY overhauled. The AI, THE AI, THE AI, THE AI, player switching, luck elements in every area (goalies, bounces, passes, shots etc) etc. All your points are 100% true and important.
This right here is the problem. You keep buying the game even though there's so many issues with it.
If you don't know about the development process, it's called MINIMUM VIABLE PRODUCT for a reason. As long as what's there is enough for you to buy it, there's no reason to incur any cost to improve it.
@@doncx1313 Well, I quit buying it years ago because of the continuous problems so I'm not a part of the problem. I've been trying to be a part of the solution (even though the problems won't be solved, people will keep buying the game and packs).
So yeah, I agree with you.. Just not me who's part of the problem.
We need full presentation back in this game… bring stuff from nhl 14 and add things we see irl at the arenas from sights and sounds… we need the arena shots back as well just make it feel like tv and move the damn scoreboard back to the normal spot like tv
Messed up the presentation of EAFC too. Cost cutting I'd imagine.
I play Eashl exclusively. I would love to see more “pro” and less arcade. The games don’t need to be 7-5 every time. Human goalies need to be more fluid-it’s like moving a bus compared to skaters.
Even if we need two different Eashl modes, such as Pro and Arcade, and each has their own tuner depending on the experience wanted, I know of many league players that would love a realistic hockey game.
Getting rid of L2 was a great start-now let’s remove unrealistic hits, fumbling goalies, and skaters that never lose the puck even though they’ve been hit several times.
Get rid of X Factors and Silver Perks for Eashl-the game is so much better when we remove them from skaters during league games.
Great video.
Sports games should not be overly realistic. Urealistic with some realistic features is the way to go. Either way I agreed with everything you said. Good video eki
Awesome breakdown! Great video.
Even if EA addresses all these problems for 25. They will immediately become broken once the first gameplay update releases after the first two weeks of release. It happened with 22, 23, and 24.
Agree. They spend a year developing the game, then change it within 2 weeks because people freak out and won't give it a chance. I honestly wish patches weren't a thing. Just make the best game you can and leave it alone.
This is absolutely spot on. A video game is a video game. If I wanted realistic I would go outside and play! NHL 13-16 best games ever.
Oh yea and they have to find a way so that 95% of the playerbase is something else than a 5'7 160pounds 95 speed 95 accel sniper. It's so boring how everyone's a lightweight this year.
Completely agree with you you on most of this. The problem is ea makes so much money they are ok with selling a polished turd and calling it a new game. It's horrible.
I’m hoping EA watches this video asap
You guys comment like. EA or any other game companies care. The business model has changed. Gone are the days where game development mattered. They have literally fired most game development staff and have brought on specialists in human behavior to figure more ways to get microtransactions
The issue is people still feed this company millions and they don’t give a shit about it. Maximize profits with minimal effort. They need a wake up call.
You forgot to add stop listening to sleeveless 😂 they listened to him after 22 and ruined the game
Only if it benefits him and HUT. he dont care about anything else in the game. Remember how much they complained about certain XFs and abilities. Tougie has complained about crap in Franchise mode for years and years and it hasnt even been sniffed. How does this dude get this changed pretty much over night.
@RelaxingGhost complained about the goaltending the poke check and skillzoning that year in 22 and nothing been the same since
@@omygodish3 to be fair goaltending has been an issue forever, same for skill zone. When people rag others hang tight
@RelaxingGhost yes it has but 22 was to most consistent overall
I like what u said about goalies. It’s very inconsistent but that is how it is like in real life. Players have really good games and really bad games. I do think there needs to be a mechanic where the goalies and AIs adjust to things. Basically like what u said about the goalies adjusting to how they’re being scored on. I think that’s a fantastic idea and it would mean there would be a variety of different goals being scored bc u can’t just keep on scoring the same thing over and over and over again.
Great video! Unfortunately I don't see EA making big changes anytime soon. I'd like to add, in EASHL Human goalies, all goalies really, passes and loose pucks going towards the goalie should be automatic saves. I swear almost every game you can pass it in or the defenseman will put it in their own net. Gotta eliminate those kind of goals.
Overall you hit most points I've been talking about. It's frustrating when a new NHL game comes out and the AI somehow becomes worse. I stepped away from HUT and Versus because the AI is atrocious which a simple feature you mentioned is let us be able to customize AI. When I'm skating with the puck at a certain spot I want my AI to go where I want them to go. Not watch them skate sideways away from a dangerous area.
I used to be a top player on the xbox side when online first started and as the years went by I just couldn't handle how worse AI got. I really don't understand how you keep playing but clearly you adapt to how the game needs to be played while I refuse to play like that.
With all that being said, I really hope EA SPORTS NHL team watches this video and understands the changes they need to focus on.
The new way of shielding the puck ruins stick handling and gets in the way of taking slap shots when you are sprinting. wtf were they thinking!?????
Your right so many things can be fixed....but oh man the players getting stuck and locking in to each other momentarily drives me crazy! How is this not have been fixed all year lol
Also the penalties, bro you can do almost any hit and not get a penalty, but then when you try to pokecheck at all you get a penalty
What I hate the most is the full pressure that saps your energy in an instant and then you can't do anything. It's so stupid. And on top of it, if you were shorthanded, then you're officially fucked. Like... we're already down a man... isn't it enough of a disadvantage?
A few small things in HUT:
Stats should be locked to a player, not a card. If I switch my McDavid from tradeable base to untradeable base to TOTW, to x factor to TOTY.. his stats should stay and not be reset each switch.
I actually like HUT Rush, it's a fun simple way to get cards.. but there should be NO animations or replays in it! It should be rushed, score and reset.
Daily challenges should be removed and we should get multi staged weekly. So if you can't play for 2h per day but can play for 14 one day a week you should not miss out on rewards. Daily makes it feel to much like a chore.
For franchise mode I just want some stuff back from the olden days..
Give me the opportunity to train my players and chose what they need to improve on! This makes it so the staff also includes trainers. A decade ago I could put a player to work on his skating and during the season and offseason that's what he's doing.
Give me back the option to chose my players style of play. Since the drafting position fools us way to often despite having A+ scouts it's needed to change them.
Be a pro:
As long as we don't have an actual story mode for be a pro I do not care, scrap it until you work out a good story mode.
The thing that bothers me the most about EA is that they made the game so arcade like. I prefer the more broadcasting realistic gameplay. Like I hate the new zooming in celebrations and the animations on the boards. Just keep it realistic and I miss the old commentary. The new one is just so boring. The broadcasting in NHL 19 was perfect
I Totally agree with you Nhl 22 was and is a good hockey game but this Nhl 24 i cant even stand play
Yup its why Im not pre ordering 25. Why order a game that needs a day 1 patch? Then its broken even worse than it was when it was released. Besides that, the rosters are always a mess, they havent touched Be a Pro in at least 5 years, franchise mode and on top of all that just wasnt satisfied with the Pre Order bonuses along with them removing "Loyalty Packs". its not worth the extra 50 bucks to get a bonus Hut card and a couple chel bags that i will never use
Support every word you said!
My solution:
- bots Al
- goalies Al
- make strategies work (add strategy "personal defence")
- sit backslide body chech to powerful. Any touch and you fall
Idk how it would work but some other gaming company should try making a street hockey game or roller hockey game if that’s even legal not sure if ea has rights to all types of hockey games or just nhl but I think if a competitor were to do that and make it the way we all are saying in these comments than that would slowly push ea out or force them to make better quality nhl games… a man can dream can’t he 🤷♂️😅
EA doesn’t even have rights to NHL games so a new competitor could technically make a new game this year if they wanted to. It would just be such a huge what if for success that i don’t see it happening. Maybe 2KSports ?
great vid! I'm not sure if they should remove "puck luck" if they're going for a sim. that's one of three ways on how you win a hockey game IRL; going on a run, not being injured and puck luck or things going your way.
Simple AI improvements - if I'm skating at a teammate, the teammate gets out of the way instead of trying to cock-block me, if I'm on a 2 on 1, my teammate goes to the net hard, he doesn't slow up and stop at the blue line or veer off to the side to check out a chick in the front row. Goalies are either impossible to score on in some situations or too easy to score on in others, bring that to somewhere in between, I know obviously some shots are way easier to save than others, but take the outside one-timers for example, they never go in, that's lame. Get rid of the pressure system, pressure in the zones comes naturally, better players know how to deal with it, you don't need an artificial mechanic to simulate pressure. Get rid of the breaking glass, it almost never happens irl and in the game it gets old after the first time, but I'm sure if they do remove it, EA will tout it as a NEW FEATURE! Stick checking, yes it was overpowered once but now players sticks are ghost like unless you want to work on your penalty kill - let player sticks intercept passes and knock pucks away sometimes, the computer-controlled players have yoda level sticks that hit the puck from 20 feet away and force choke your grandma for good measure. And when you do separate an opponent from the puck, don't have the puck magnetically go to one of their teammates every, single, time. Let the player win puck battles along the boards every once in a while, instead of losing every battle even if you have 3 players vs 1 AI player. Stop disallowing every goal where the offensive player even looks at the goalie the wrong way, goalies face contact all the time without goals being disallowed. Improve rewards and pack drops, they were absolute dogshit this year - and have them scale as the year goes on, an 86 should not be a purple drop in July. OK I'm done ranting and EA will do none of this, lol.
I agree, bring back the backskating, but give the players less balance, agility, and strength when performing it so it is not game breaking. It was a great tool in previous NHLs that allowed you to perform a delay when entering the zone, control the puck near the boards/ blue line and protect the puck (A + LT mechanic). But they removed it because recreational players who have never watched a damn game of hockey in their lives didn't know how to deal with it and labeled it as unrealistic.
Get rid of total control and the one button Michigan, charge up hits .. players just launch themselves at you and don’t get charging penalties?
The thing I want most is to have the speed boost hitting removed. I hate that sooooo much.
My favourite animation is when you shoot the goal, and during the celebration the scorer gets literally bent out of shape, like a contortionist to the 999th power. Also: I've gotten a few one-timers from the distance done, but either you need to be very lucky, or you need a deflection. I still need to learn crease to crease like you showed.
Dude everything u said here i agree! I just complained about people spamimg one timers/cross creases on reddit and it's literally to defend it! especially with the bonehead ais! its crazy thats why i dont even like playing online really because of this! Just make the controls simple again like NHL 14!
Passing is also so obsolete and garbage in this game! It either goes way wide of where ur aiming or it passes to a teammate ur not even aiming for! 😂like wtf this isnt hockey at all!
The news of a new scoreboard was huge,and I think working on a new revamped franchise mode & settings would be even more of a step forward for EA.With the ability to control more during the franchise season would make that much more of a impact instead of just having control over one team in franchise mode and players being waived and traded without your permission.
I want the scoreboard at the top of the screen I hate having it at the bottom of the screen
Please remove circle from beneath your skates you can do it in settings and remove that puck shadow also
What we will be watching in the trailers:
All nEw SkAtInG MeChAnIcHs
Totally agree about everything! Especially about having different tuner for online and offline! 👍
I think if they increase the rate at which one timers are scored they should also increase pass difficulty and pass interceptions too. The only pass that should be allowed to get through traffic is a saucer pass.
8:32 is a fantastic point, even as someone who would love a game that gets as close to that as possible.
a 100% realistic hockey game would not only be quite unfun overall, but it would be borderline unplayable for online matches.
an ideal scenario would be having the game be more realistic (i.e. puck luck) offline, but more dependent on player skill online.
I think when most people complain about the realism, they want physics that make sense. Skating, turning, hits, pickups, goalie deflections… idk if anyone who plays competitively is in favor of glass or stick breaks.
My recollection starts and ends between NHL 96-2004. Compu scoring vs my 100/100 teams was fascinating. Usally when the CPU opponent have had no shots at all and I was ahead like 40-0 you started to see fourth liners skate unstoppable (no matter who or how hard you hit them with) become completely unstoppable. You hit them all you want but they'd skate roughly just past the blue line and make a "humongous shoot" (one which a demented sloth with severe brain injury would stop by just standing there) and in it goes. No matter if Martin Brodeur was you goalie or late years DiPietro. It would go in. Somehow. Goalie became transparent. That "keeping the AI in the game" was laughable and games could end 50-8 due to that even the AI was forechecked out of all posession through the game. Sounds EA still has this feat. XD These nobody fom nowhere literally became Forsberg or Fedorov on godmode. No way getting puck off their stick dirty or clean just flopping the puck to net from almost neurtal zone. :P I usually spent the rest of the game making sure their IR was full of top line players by hitting them (as well as goalies) as dirty as ever possible (I think there was max tree injuries for CPU team but it looked brutal)... Also Stupid AI players made it so that it was easier to score on shorthanded than on 5-5 or powerplay. XD Maybe these days you can use real money to make your goalie play a shotout game. :P
Awesome video man, really well said
Hope we'll finally have new logos, jerseys templates to customize in offline mode, been the same ones for 10+ years... I agree with offline/online tuner...its still a video game, shots will always be like 60 for a team and about 10 for the other
Praying this next game is better, good vid eki!
Don't waste your time. It won't be.
I like to play be a pro but it really needs improvements. So many bugs and stupid challenges. For example to get tape to tape x factor you need to do 30 breakaway passes and it's almost impossible to get them because 90% of those passes don't recister to breakway passes.
Agreed on everything but the luck elements like stick breaking and what not, but that's probably because I mainly only play offline and against friends, so seeing my mate lose all his marbles because his last chance on scoring was ruined by a stick break is kinda funny :D
NHL 21 was the last good NHL game until they patched it to death. It had weight on the passes, skating, actually needed skill to land checks and the cross crease cheese was gone. But the casuals complained it was too hard and it had been arcade again ever since.
take NHL14
copy paste the gameplay
update the rosters
release at lower price
As a dman, it's hard to even play this game anymore. Every year, our kit just gets more and more useless. Poke check timing has to be so precise, yet even if you do everything right, your skater turns into a statue, and they just keep it and skate away on their breakaway.
Also they need to teach people how to play 3s. Dmen are supposed to be involved, and it's man on man coverage. So sick of seeing ppl play 3s like it's 6s.
Fix the hitting
EA should let Eki develop the game
Thanks for sharing, true GOAT
very good video 👍These are exactly the points that bother me, especially the back skating needs to be improved again than in NHL 24
One of the more frustrating things to me is when you are in close trying to shoot a rebound and instead of playing the puck your player just checks a player and gets an interference penalty.
Yea man I feel like this doesn’t get talked about enough for some reason, it was never an issue until this game like wtf were they thinking when they made these new controls? Can’t be guys who play the game regularly, so frustrating lol
Ive allready said it... U should work for E.A.! 🤯 ur 100% on the point! The only thing that make me continue to play this y is the 3 y plan. If nhl25s not much much better... I'll quit!
The thing that makes me so mad is all the broken goals. I poke check the puck off the attackers stick 3 times, and yet he still picks it up and scores from right in front. Or it goes off his skate and my goalie stretches for no reason and lets it in 5 hole. Also, the pressure system makes no sense bc the AI goalie with 0 energy makes a back door robbery but lets in a muffin point shot just because my defender has heatseaker. I also can’t stand the defence mechanics in the game anymore. I agree they had to nerf it for the pro players who were easily spamming hits and poke checks, but it’s just not realistic. After coming home from a long day at school or work, I don’t want to have to time my hits. I want to blow off some steam and destroy the AI. And I don’t want to put it on rookie because then it’s not challenging or fun. They should have kept the old, easy hitting when you set the game style to arcade, but keep the new style for competitive style. That way everyone gets what they want. The pike checking also makes no sense because why does my character lose 90% of his speed when I go for a single pike check. Or I poke and my defender goes nowhere near the puck. I’ll be having fun because I’m up 2-0, and then the most broken goal goes in, not because I get beat, but because something dumb happens. It makes me so frustrated and I never want to play more than one game at a time. It’s such a shame that we have no other options for hockey games because I would switch in a heartbeat
JUST SAY IT: ICE TILT EXIST and that's what make the game very random in a bad way. Also the hitting is worst ever in 24
I dont think EA has a “make AI moar smarter” switch to flip. I dont think the fix is as simple as you suggest.
Goalies play like “superman” sometimes and play like absolute trash sometimes in real life too. There is no way to fix this. The goalies always play the same, its not like there is a code in the background running saying your goalie will play like garbage this game. Its the opponent that youre playing making the goalies look bad or good.
Pucks SHOULD be able to go through goalies when theyre in position. If they didnt, there would be way less goals in real life and in the game. The goalies are almost always in position on the game, nobody would ever score.
There SHOULD be more animations to make the game more fluid and vary more. When there are less animations for the game to choose from, the same animation is used 20 times a game and looks unrealistic and sometimes the animations arent the best for each super unique situation. There are infinity unique situations in every game you play, we need more animations so we can have better hits, puck pickups, etc.
You should NOT be able to spam poke, players dont do it in real life because it doesnt work. There should be a downside to it.
Every one timer in real life does NOT go in. Finally EA got it right here. Some go in, some dont. Every single little one timer shouldnt be going in the net.
Just some of my opinions as a former top player. I havent bought the last 2 games, i waited for game pass access so i did get to play. What i actually want, is less x factor and ability type features. EA is turning the game into a MOBA or something with all the abilities. What is the point of having stats, if a player can just have truculence and be able to hit anyone despite their checking stats?
This video game series is beyond freaking pathetic at this point.
It’s going to be the crappiest ea nhl game for the 10th year anniversary. 2015-2025
I don't get why options so ahead of their time back then are now not implemented in the game many years later. When i play online vs. I don't dont want to play a locked position I have tested all these games from years back till now. One thing that would be cool they could implement. When you're in training mode and do team practice mode. Why is it in team practice mode. You can't play with a locked position? You should be able to mess with strategies for people who aren't familiar or want to learn mechanics better it would be a great way to be able to see how players move around on the ice. Another thing i did. If you go to a regular play now game. And plug two controllers in Obviously nobody's on the other controller but if you start a game and you control your team you can mess with the strategies and you can see as you start to move a little bit players will start to swap positions and move into other formations. I wanted to get a real sense of how bad the AI is. I've gone as far as picking two teams. And letting the computer play. I was curious to see how the computer on computer gameplay is And I did Because I want to see how they as the AIs are moving around and playing the game. And it won't shock you because they can't do s***. You would expect if you put it into computer mode you could sort of watch and learn how the players on each team maneuver and see the physics. I was trying to figure out if there's something I don't know with the mechanics And I'll tell you it's not the case. It drives me nuts though. AI can't keep up That's something I'll never understand. In the last thing I'll say is in any of the regular offline modes they have that setting where you can mess with the sliders. But who the hell wants to do that in offline mode. I'm not expecting to be able to go online versus and set my skater speed to 100 and max everybody out but there's several settings in there including something called AI learning. This will adjust how quickly the computer adjusts to your playing habits. You can set this bar 0 to 6. It's unfortunate they can't make some sort of like advanced setting like when you're tuning your car and racing game to your specific liking you should be able to do that to your player. I only say this also because. I grew up skateboarding and there is a new skate game out called session. And the physics over the years that they have implemented into a controller is absolutely insane. EA used to make skate games. Getting that s*** down to a science that some people that don't skate don't understand it. But EA needs to figure something out. I won't buy another one after 25. I've said that since 21 and I have hoping something would change. I mean for Christ's sake. They have cross-play mode. But you can't play online versus. You could only play Xbox to Xbox or PlayStation to PlayStation. You have the world of chill option in the hockey ultimate team option and you have to use your s***** overall 72 of a team to play a friend with the same it's just not fun. They don't even allow you to go into world of chell on cross play and free skate with the buddy. I went on weeks ago and I thought yeah I think we can free skate shoot the puck to each other practice playing lock positions I was just absolutely f****** appalled. Get your s*** together EA
Remove skating out from corner with L2 backwards.
Ability to send a D to force behind the net sitters
You should do Nhl games tier list video. Tai ees sinne suomikanavalle :D
i Miss NHL20,21 GAMEPLAY
if you want simplier just use total controll
i need everyone who brown noses chel 14 to actually go back and play it. I don't have any experiences with the newer games but as someone who just recently upgraded from 12, 14 has so many issues, its incredibly sluggish and near impossible to play defence with. Also imo realism in chel drives the depth of the game. No need to do actual breakouts when any pass connects, and blaming puck luck is often cope
and let’s bring back goalies aren’t all on all star
Hope EA really focus on the actual gameplay this time, and not on the secondary factors. Too many weird animations in NHL 24, it's far away from esports game right now tbh.
3:00 goalies yes it would be nice to have goalies change up
I agree 100% but its too late for ea to fix any of this. All they do is break the game claim to fix it for the new game but didn’t instead they broke something else. Tbh ea is just incompetent theres no hope for a decent game from them anymore
Womp womp about the mechanics, I agree they are bad, but because I want it to be much more realistic, able to cycle, and still complex, I like the chance of stuff not working, messing up because of xyz that’s out of my control.
Start by not making it into an unrealistic garbage arcade game, the movement of the players and skating is so jittery and laughable, like they’re moving on crack
Real solution?
Petition for 2k to return
Nhl 22 goaltending was pretty good yea it was a year of less goals but it was amazing
Honestly the gameplay is too fast which makes it unrealistic….every out there seems to be Conner mcdavid n players who don’t & wouldn’t do things in real life have the ability to do things they either wouldn’t do in real life or don’t have the skill to for example a Ryan traces shouldn’t be able to do the Michigan or a player let’s say like Tyler myers shouldn’t be able to either things like that are what make the game unrealistic player attributes need to actually make a difference if a player has bad puck control or 80 speed they need to play like they do
17 - 19 were my favs
These same problems are in every EA game…
there is a way to get better poke checks, but that’s a skill secret ;)
I wish they would get rid of the time limits on moment’s and grinding for cards. I’m older with a family, job etc I can’t play enough to unlock cards ! They make it to time consuming and hard !
I wish we had better camera angles. Every angle has something I dont like about it
Basically bring back everything that made NHL 14 so great. It was realistic but all under the premise of FUN! BEEN SCREAMING THIS FOR YEARSSSSSS
EA has incentivized goal scoring and offense for years. It’s only natural that people poke spam like they did in 23 and speed boost hits in 24 because their options are really limited and every maneuver is do or die with how the AI plays.
It’s almost as if they need competition 😮.
Who knew competing with yourself when it comes to money would create a toxic environment.
Nhl 22 was amazing it took skill to win and was the most realistic
agree with everything....I wish they would release another game for pc
i hope they slow down the gameplay in eashl. In the 23-24 versions, there are fewer great goals. everyone plays the same boring counterattack and rebound game. for example, with powerplay it would be possible to circulate the puck more realistically. it would be great if the game at least resembled ice hockey when playing power play?
Eki, 834 days in the game. What a chad
My Solution was - Stop buying the game. At least until I see that the reviews will be good... and EASports has not have a good review on their hockey game for quite a few years.
Main issue I think is that EASports doesn't have any competition anymore therefore they don't have to make an effort to convince us to buy their products.. if you want a hockey game you HAVE TO get their game. NHL (the league) needs to break that stupid deal they made with EASports... but alas money talks!!!
Pier to pier connection Back in hut is all I want
Good video it would be nice Ea Making the Ai better in NHL 25 but ea cant make the game better with patches in NHL 24 it gets worse.so I have no hope with NHL 25
Preach brother!