I don't know how I feel about making Vixen into an African American rather than a full blooded African. Feels like they could have kept her as an African girl who was studying in the United States, which is something that happens all the time. I do enjoy these webtoons, especially with a focus on B and C listers.
Provided time it may turn out that was the case and she simply wasn't aware on account of having immigrated at a very young age. They did something similar in the animated movie if my memory serves right.
I wholeheartedly agree and I really don't know why they changed it. The only thing that really comes to mind right now is cowardice, like the primarily American market can't accept someone who's not American?
The first part is weird, as despite everything else so far being fairly well written, I wouldn’t be surprised if some people got the impression she was from Ghana, or at least some other place in Africa due to how she left and how much of a fish out of water she is in NYC
Every I see or hear the phrase "We need to talk" I instantly get worried, but it turns out it was for nothing, and this is fine! Was wondering if they changed her name to "Marie", and nope, still Mari, it's such a nice and unique name.
I’d be interested to know the average age of the people reading these webtoons. Maybe I’m just an Old now, but I’m kind of over the de-aging of established characters to make them “relatable”. Not everyone’s lives start at 18. With Vixen especially, I always think of her as a strong, stable, confident adult, and I didn’t really get that from this interpretation.
Yeah, I know Manga has age ranges this is techincally still in a "YA" in American standards. I too would like some more slice of life yet with some 25+ characters. I dislike aging a stable character to be "relatable" I had the same issues when they aged Jon Kent up.
I'm 20, but i mainly read YA/NA kinda comics!! I love this one so far, But i did not read any of the DC comics, i did watch some CW shows, which is obviously not comparable. I do believe webtoon focusses more on the YA category, as the adults generally go more towards the traditional comics.
I got introduced to Vixen in JL Unlimited and I really liked the character. But every strong, stable, confident adult had a beginning where they weren't any of those things. This incarnation is that story (sort of) and it helps introduce her to people like PrincessManitari. :)
@@lethalsong5585 Yet this isn't the best origin they could have done for Vixen as an overall character. It feels like how when they rebooted Static that origin doesn't work compared to the original.
This looks fun, i even like the art, and I like Wayne Family Adventures so I'm sure I'll like the writing to this. However I'm having a hard time getting over the retcon to her origin. Superheroes are already massively overrepresented by Americans. I enjoy when other countries can get some attention. But to make matters worse this takes place in NYC. ... It feels likes half if not most heroes either in reside in NYC or in a NYC inspired city. It's now so overdone its become the generic comic setting. DC and Marvel really need to start hiring writers that don't live on the north east coast. Preferably some that live outside the US too. We live in an era of remote work. There's no excuse to not be able to draw from a wider range of life experience than NYC.
On the upside, it's possible Mari could move elsewhere and/or travel a lot later on. She's in college right now and they're just setting her up but there's no reason she couldn't decide to transfer or drop-out or they might skip ahead after she graduates. But yeah... Maybe as someone else suggested her family immigrated to the US when she was very small. I was surprised they said she was from NC but I always am whenever we get mentioned (usually bad when it's the news ugh.) We do have a lot of people from other countries here, including those going to college (there's the Research Triangle of Durham-Cary-Raleigh which is pretty big in medicine and technology.) So not having her coming from some country in Africa and/or not at least keeping her in NC seems like a bit of a missed opportunity but then I guess it'd make less sense for the other supers to be around and it's not like she's focusing on either of those industries. TBH I'm kinda amazed they used NYC instead of Metropolis, though that's just an expy of NYC kinda lol. I'm just grateful they chose college instead of high school. Overall, your statement still stands. Other settings would be great!
Honestly Florida would have made more sense due to there's still a massive amount of animal connections and they whole "meme-mythos" of our own "Superhero" Florida-Man. NYC is so damn boring when it isn't Spider-Man at this point.
@@ExeErdna Beast Boy could speak for the poor iguanas and other innocent exotic pets gone feral (and turned into pests) lol. That'd be a great story-line right there?
CC: "Been aged down" Everyone: "Ugh." CC: "Is now entering college." Everyone: "Oh." But seriously, being aged down is easier to swallow when still an adult.
I've been really enjoying the "a day in the life of..." Style of the webtoons so far and hope they do more. Although I'm also one of the people who unironically enjoyed the show Powerless, so that may say something about my taste
"Although I'm also one of the people who unironically enjoyed the show Powerless... " So then you like the show. Unless saying that you and ironically like something makes it a double negative. If not, I'm trying to figure out why the word unironically is in there when you could just say "I like it"
@@zufalllx Maybe they were straightforward in the past and other people teased them for liking Powerless, judging from the way they phrased it as "one of the people." That section could've used the word few in there, to fully express that this fan feels like they're in the minority, but that's how I understood it. It's similar to how you're trying to teach them better for using the word unironically in an awkward manner. You could've let it go but you had to make sure this person understood they made a mistake with their use of terminology, instead of a mistake over what they enjoyed, because no one can possibly like things that have flaws in them. Other more vocal and critical fans don't always allow for that. Maybe people started using the term "ironically enjoyed" as a white lie to protect themselves within online communities for having "bad taste" in content. Then others began specifying unironically to clarify that they weren't being glib. Those are just the context clues I ran with and I know I'm assuming a lot about other people. Maybe I'm wrong about their situation. Also, maybe you were genuinely confused and hadn't considered or presumed any of this.
Vixen is a hero that I always hear about but haven’t found anything. Also love the suit even the first one. Looking at this comic made me relove NYC though some brand anime lens.
Well, if you have any interest in the Arrowverse, she has a title episode, a CW Seed animated series, and Mari's grandmother from the 1940s JSA was featured in two seasons (on of which was focused on the Totems).
Now I can’t stop wondering how you can centrally open a can of beans for a commercial LOL but seriously, Vixen has always been underrated and I’m glad she’s getting a cool adaptation, I hope you review more of these
I feel like a party pooper because after 1 chapter, I am not a fan. I just feel that they painted the character of Vixen over with a generic plucky YA mc brush. Also, as a West African who grew up in Nigeria, and then went to school abroad, I'm not fond of her being more American than African, although I'm sure many people will be able to relate to that. Just feels like non American black people don't get to have the good stuff most of the time. And as for the tone...I don't think it suits her, as I've said, and the art is gorgeous, but imo feels like it's trying *too* hard to be wacky. Idk, it's hard to articulate after 2 weeks of insomnia. Props where it's due tho: The Ghanaian stuff looked super authentic (Nigeria and Ghana are almost neighbours and from the people I've met, we share wuite a few things in common). Also, tired of light skinned bumblebee. DC superhero girls is a great show, but I will not forgive them for light skinned Bumblebee.
You're not a party pooper at all, there are definitely reasons not to vibe with it. I feel like for me the canon changes are hitting less hard than they usually do is cause I feel like Webtoon has been up front about doing it's own thing with these characters.
@@CasuallyComics That is a very good point! These are pretty much elsworld/AUs (you're the reason I even know the term elsworld, lol). I guess my issue is just that as someone who consumes cocmics mostly through webtoons the past few years (other than manga) I am completely burned out on the direction they're taking the character in. When everyone is clumsy, quirky and relatable, nobody is. Thank you for taking the time to read my thoughts! Been a fan for yearsss, since early on in the SGtG days. Keep being awesome!
@@obara7366 It's so true they cannot make every webtoon the "quirky, down to earth, rom-com ish" piece. It's like sticking a fork in a socket and claiming that's lightning striking twice.
Every time Sasha titles a video "we need to talk", I imagine coming home from school and finding her seated at the kitchen table (filled with a stack of comics) with a stern expression...
I am already in love with this webtoon I already loved batman Wayne family adventures and I’m so excited for red hood and the outlaws and zatanna and the ripper coming out this summer
When I think of Vixen, I think of that time she used the power of a cuttlefish to hypnotize someone. I'm glad Pizza Rat made it into this comic. Really moving up in the world.
It personally feels bad that they changed her to be from the USA rather than keeping her African. She should have been an African exchange student. Do research and (if you have the resources; they do) hire people from that culture to help you as paid experts. De-aging annoys me as it keeps pushing the cultural idea that younger is better and forgetting to have adults be main characters in stories. At least shes still an adult in this rather than * sigh* yet another Teenager. We get WAY to much Child, Teen and young adult viewpoints and representation!!! More stories of 27+ confident full adults who know who they are yet are still curious and learning/living enjoying life! I'm also sick of 'school' stories. The school system sucks! And I want to see more stories of people beyond that... The cameos feel forced and too soon. The first issue is a time to let the main character shine. Feeling the NEED to have a rich white man who is 'cooler' and more well known/beloved swoop in and save her JUST as she was about to discover and unlock her own amazing powers so that she doesn't EVEN learn about them yet feels wrong to me, feels icky. Beast boy feels weird/forced and totally useless to the plot. What does he even do besides creep her out? Why can't we just have a confident, sexy fully adult African Supermodel?! Why did they feel the need to 1) reduce how African she is? 2) Make her younger more naive and less fully mature? 3) add in other male more 'well established' characters immediately without even giving her the chance to tell her own story and stand on her own? 4) Yet another story set in New York City; Why? (there's other places in the world! Media is over saturated with New York, enough!) They probably have answers to these and it still seems enjoyable but I feel like I'd prefer the original version more personally. I feel like I'd dislike their answers. Unless they just were inspired and thought it was cool and truly innocently didn't think about the deeper implications. I'd be ok with it if that's the answer. However: Having her change in these ways Americanizes her more, makes her less unique and more generic. This is NOT more appealing to me. Especially on making her Raised in the USA instead of From Africa I really don't like how that makes me feel. It really implies being from Africa is inferior, 'less-relatable', less marketable, less desired or otherwise... just 'lesser' and that's wrong. They do realize its a whole planet and not just USA? Crazy pitch why not make her From Africa and even have the comic *Gasp* set in Africa? or have her be an exchange student in London, Prague, Berlin, Rio, etc! And hey they CAN actually hire writers FROM those places and consult with other writers from other places and backgrounds they have the resources.... I feel like being cheap, insensitive and lazy are not good justifications... You can read stories and relate to characters who are living and doing things not in the USA! Why is it that so many stories are set in the USA or an entirely fictional other planet or version of Earth but fewer are set in other real world places? Why are 50% or more of the stories that are set in the USA set once again in New York city? Why? It makes them more bland frankly. Who is surprises by NEW York? Really hoping it was the inspired story options because the other options feel bad. Sorry for the overly critical and negative rant in what essentially seems like a very fun beautiful comic. Overall it would be fine if it was a new character (still I'm sick of New York and want more characters of at least 25+ personally) It is better to be positive and enjoy art and it does look very well done, well written, beautiful art, etc.
They probably aged down Vixen because Webcomic readers are mainly young adults. People who are 30+ years old rarely know what Webcomic is. Thats why a lot of manga and comics in Webcomic are about teenagers or young adults. Its based on Webcomic's target readers. Plus, Superman and Batman, two of the most popular comic book characters are in their 30s or 40s. So, i dont think there's any problem with DC de-aging a not-so-popular character. They used Vixen because of her name. She still is very well-known by youngsters like me. Many people grew up with Justice League Unlimited and she was pretty popular back then. She might not be well known like Superman, Batman, Nightwing or Green Lantern, but she has her fanbase. If they created a new character just for this one webcomic series, no one would read them because it has no name recognition. I dont think this webcomic is bad. In fact, its pretty fun. If people can accept communist Superman, Hydra Captain America, vampire version of superheroes and Batman fused with Joker who became a god, then we can accept a fun and simple story about Vixen's young adult life. You want a stoy about 27+ years old who explores life? Read Silk. Its about Cindy Moon aka Silk who is 28 years old and her journey of life after being trapped in a bunker for 10 years.
Must be great to be a character in a comicbook - you get younger with age. (Or alternately, if you wanted to play it for horror, the worst Groundhog Day Loop imaginable). Anyway, as someone who thoroughly enjoyed Wayne Family Adventures, definitely will check this out!!!
I like that this comic is going with a cross between the plot and the slice of life. I love Wayne Family Adventures, but I've been wishing they'd do actual plot stories instead of gag a day strips for a while now. This seems like it'll be pretty great!
I cant wait to check this webtoon out, although i have to give a giant thanks to Casually Comics in general because i finally got into webtoons thanks to your Wayne Family Adventures video. From Wayne family adventures (which is great) i fell into a webtoons rabbit hole and i never looked back.
Not bad. I love the diversity of characters, I like making Vixen more of a fish out of water by making her American born connecting to her African roots. I'm not a fan of the "franime" artstyle. I read a lot of manga so I love the general anime style but a lot of webcomics achieve the same cartoony style without going full Totally Spies or whatever. Aside from that, not bad.
My only problem with the series is the cameos from other heroes came a little early and felt a little forced. I would have liked her to be solo for an issue or two.
I loved her appearance in Teen Titans GO! and in Justice League Unlimited and Brave and the Bold !!! MORE VIXEN PLEASE!!!! ....and where's the Vixen/Animal Man crossover??
By the by for those curious, in either the second or third chapter there's a map of where her "Magical signature" is emanating from. Based on that map she's going to Pratt. Edit: You can see the map at 9:47 if you're curious.
So far I am really liking what Vixen NYC has to offer, I am also happy that not only Vixen is getting attention from this series, but Bumblebee is too. Both are characters and are kind of underrated compared to other DC heroes. I am interested in the other upcoming Web Toon DC series.
I know weird name pronounciations is like a meme on this channel, but hearing you pronouce Mari like Marie felt like an assault on my soul. That said, I always love it when Vixen gets the attention she deserves.
As much as I love Vixen, I was afraid to read this. Partly because of the style and then partly because of a difference in tone and story. However, given that I desire more modern Vixen material I think I will read it. I’m a still a little sad that she doesn’t feel as Black or African as her previous versions, but it still looks interesting.
She's in New York for five seconds and runs into two superheroes. She's also saved by Batman who is patrolling in a city not his own during the middle of the day. I guess he skipped out on those FNL table reads.
I'm excited for new Mari content, but YA has never been my cup of tea. Also I think people would have still related to her without her needing to be de-aged and have her origin changed; they did before, after all.
Vixen is arguably the most gifted superhero with multiple abilities like a nature-inspired swiss army knife. Just writing these words got me to thinking if she ever used the amazing ability of octopuses to blend seamlessly into their background, for example. I would love to see her in on the road adventures.
Love it! Vixen is one of the reasons I got into reading comics, fell in love in JLU and then started reading things with her. So I'm excited to check this out!
I remember her from he JLA “Detroit era” but my first real exposure to the character was Mark Waid’s Flash series in the 90’s she and Wally team up to take on Gorilla Grodd
I was so excited for Vixen to finally get a new series that I read the first 3. I fell in love with it so quickly that I bought the remaining 5! 😂 Vixen has always been one of my favorite superheroes and for the longest time I felt like she's never been given a chance to truly shine while other characters have been over done to death. Although it's a little disappointing that she's born in Ghana and raised in America with this story. (At least I think that is how it's being done?) I'm just looking forward to there being something for Vixen with a hope it will translate to some bigger things in the future.
My knowledge of Vixen came from JL Unlimited so I understand older fans being upset with the origin change even though I'm neutral about it. That being said, there are so few (mainstream) stories about African American immigrant kids/children of immigrants, I couldn't be happier.
My favorite Vixen is her JLU series but mostly the episode when her,Hawkgirl,Huntress and Black Canary teamed up to survive a fight with a brainwashed Wonder Woman.
*Some thoughts:* I like her being from the Carolinas. Too often comic writers paint the Southern states as a backwater joke, forgetting the majority of the population doesn't live in LA or NY. I don't like how every animal themed DC character just randomly appears in Mari's life. I get she's de-aged for this story, but the design they used isn't exactly "Super-Model"? I personally think she looks cuter and I love cute characters, but... that's not Mari. It's literally a plot point that she's hot. I do like that she's starting off as an everyday-woman, with the possibility to grow. BUT I'm sad it's done here where it's going to be a short series that won't build on it. I also love the art-style.
i feel like the old justice league cartoon being pretty much my first exposure to DC characters gave me a messed up sense of who the biggest DC characters were haha! i always thought vixen must have been a famous comic character before she was in the show! and when that green latern movie came out, i was like "who is hal jordan? where is john?" and also being surprised that it turns out there's also a hawkMAN in the comics haha! but yeah i always thought vixen had the coolest powers in the justice league! until i saw bwana beast in brave and the bold, he is ridiculous and amazing lol
It's always nice to be introduced to a character I've never heard of; almost certainly my fault. This would probably benefit from a close reading, because at the moment I'm just seeing all the easy comparisons to other characters and that's not fair to the creators of this one.
I'm really glad I found this channel. I love how she always looks at the comics from different perspectives, understanding that different fans have different tastes and ways of approaching the material. It's a breath of fresh air.
All of their Webtoon stories so far have a cannon fan fiction vibe to them, and honestly, I love it. The is just a college AU and I need to read it immediately Edit: I read it immediately, I love it, and feel very bad for Beast Boy lol
I really am enjoying the Bat Webtoon it is very well done and a refreshingly wholesome take on the character and while I am only familiar with Vixen through the old JLA cartoon, I look forward to reading these.
I first learned of Vixen from Brave and the Bold, and then saw her again in Justice League Unlimited, and I really like her character. I haven't read Vixen NYC, but I think I might do so later. Doesn't seem very bad, honestly. Looks pretty good.
Personal head cannon of mine: the DC comics on webtoon are all in the same universe taking inspiration and lore from larger cannon but they themselves won't branch off webtoon and stay in that website related cannon.
Brave and the Bold not only paired Vixen with B'wana Beast... but also made him one of the most heroic characters with a sad end. It is amazing how good the more serious moments of that show was. One of the best I tell you. Also made it imposible to see Vixen date anyone but B'wana XD. They are shipped for life in my heart.
My favorite version of Vixen is the Imaginext Super Friends version just because I love that toy line, but second place goes to the JLU one soully for the seen were she crushes some crooks by making herself as heavy as a elephant and some how doesn't kill them in the process. It felt so Looney Tunes.
Super excited to see where they go with this!!! And I'm really excited to see how they use Vixen's powers in the webtoom because there's nearly no limit to what she can do
I read the three first episodes (never even knew Vixen existed before) and I really liked it. I've been into slice of life in general lately, and this looks perfect for me. Going to check out the Wayne family, finally. Now I can only wait for Marvel ("my" superheroes since I was a kid) to jump on the train.
I find the comic entertaining and a great way to introduce a younger/newer audience to Vixen/DC. Comics can be hard to jump into, so I'm always here for jumping in points.
I liked this webtoon. I don’t know how to get the issues 8 forward but I like it. Sure, I enjoy how she looked in Justice League Unlimited, but this dorky first timer Vixen is just as entertaining. It gives more relatability to her. There are some funny moments too like when she geeked out over the Batman and how he just vanished the split second she blinks
This looks like a lot of fun I wish there was some of these for marvel characters, you have no idea the depths I'd go to to get a wolvraine family adventure Not entirely relevant but, every time wonder women is featured near or with a dary product I get flash backs to milk wars. That....thing scared me
I find this interesting. My addition to her lore would be for her to be able to channel the power of heroes with animal totems like Batman or villains like Cheetah, or maybe even beings Man-Bat or King Shark. Food for thought...
My favourite Vixen is JLU the animated series Vixen. I've always wanted a Vixen solo comic book series coming off of the Return of the Lion Limited series but...alas!!!
Didn't know about this but I'm down just for more Vixen representation so thanks for bringing this to my attention, some of changes definitely strike far with her new origin and fluciation in age but I'll give it a shot since I only feel I know her most from team-ups with JLD, SS, and briefly in Animal Man (hope Buddy shows up in this) as opposed to standing on her own. It's funny how Bruce kinda shoe-horned his way into this but keeping the "Bat-Dad" attitude is still fun to see.
Looks cute, but do hope we get an alternate older take that's closer to classic VIxen, not instead of this younger americanised version, but just so there's more Vixen in general (also DC needs to cast Danai Gurira or Florence Kasumba as her already in a live version)
I've really enjoyed this and I hope you'll continue covering this vixen webtoon. Always happy to see batman, can't wait to see what happens with Gar...
I don't know how I feel about making Vixen into an African American rather than a full blooded African. Feels like they could have kept her as an African girl who was studying in the United States, which is something that happens all the time.
I do enjoy these webtoons, especially with a focus on B and C listers.
Thank you! That really bothered me as well.
Provided time it may turn out that was the case and she simply wasn't aware on account of having immigrated at a very young age. They did something similar in the animated movie if my memory serves right.
I wholeheartedly agree and I really don't know why they changed it.
The only thing that really comes to mind right now is cowardice, like the primarily American market can't accept someone who's not American?
The first part is weird, as despite everything else so far being fairly well written, I wouldn’t be surprised if some people got the impression she was from Ghana, or at least some other place in Africa due to how she left and how much of a fish out of water she is in NYC
The writer probably didn't know. You know?
Every I see or hear the phrase "We need to talk" I instantly get worried, but it turns out it was for nothing, and this is fine! Was wondering if they changed her name to "Marie", and nope, still Mari, it's such a nice and unique name.
But, then she will share a name with Rogue, X-man.
Yeah, it's just how Sasha says it lol
@@Paradox-es3bl And some other people pronounce her name as "Mary." Sigh...
Mari….
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same i thought it was gonna be bad or something glad it was nothing
Beast Boy being slightly socially awkward is adorable and makes sense to me, given his normal backstory
I’d be interested to know the average age of the people reading these webtoons. Maybe I’m just an Old now, but I’m kind of over the de-aging of established characters to make them “relatable”. Not everyone’s lives start at 18. With Vixen especially, I always think of her as a strong, stable, confident adult, and I didn’t really get that from this interpretation.
Yeah, I know Manga has age ranges this is techincally still in a "YA" in American standards. I too would like some more slice of life yet with some 25+ characters. I dislike aging a stable character to be "relatable" I had the same issues when they aged Jon Kent up.
My guess is very young like median 25 years or so. Some of the best comics on webtoons seem to be slice of life college age/young adult characters.
I'm 20, but i mainly read YA/NA kinda comics!! I love this one so far, But i did not read any of the DC comics, i did watch some CW shows, which is obviously not comparable. I do believe webtoon focusses more on the YA category, as the adults generally go more towards the traditional comics.
I got introduced to Vixen in JL Unlimited and I really liked the character. But every strong, stable, confident adult had a beginning where they weren't any of those things. This incarnation is that story (sort of) and it helps introduce her to people like PrincessManitari. :)
@@lethalsong5585 Yet this isn't the best origin they could have done for Vixen as an overall character. It feels like how when they rebooted Static that origin doesn't work compared to the original.
This looks fun, i even like the art, and I like Wayne Family Adventures so I'm sure I'll like the writing to this.
However I'm having a hard time getting over the retcon to her origin. Superheroes are already massively overrepresented by Americans. I enjoy when other countries can get some attention. But to make matters worse this takes place in NYC. ...
It feels likes half if not most heroes either in reside in NYC or in a NYC inspired city. It's now so overdone its become the generic comic setting. DC and Marvel really need to start hiring writers that don't live on the north east coast. Preferably some that live outside the US too. We live in an era of remote work. There's no excuse to not be able to draw from a wider range of life experience than NYC.
On the upside, it's possible Mari could move elsewhere and/or travel a lot later on. She's in college right now and they're just setting her up but there's no reason she couldn't decide to transfer or drop-out or they might skip ahead after she graduates. But yeah...
Maybe as someone else suggested her family immigrated to the US when she was very small. I was surprised they said she was from NC but I always am whenever we get mentioned (usually bad when it's the news ugh.) We do have a lot of people from other countries here, including those going to college (there's the Research Triangle of Durham-Cary-Raleigh which is pretty big in medicine and technology.) So not having her coming from some country in Africa and/or not at least keeping her in NC seems like a bit of a missed opportunity but then I guess it'd make less sense for the other supers to be around and it's not like she's focusing on either of those industries.
TBH I'm kinda amazed they used NYC instead of Metropolis, though that's just an expy of NYC kinda lol. I'm just grateful they chose college instead of high school. Overall, your statement still stands. Other settings would be great!
Honestly Florida would have made more sense due to there's still a massive amount of animal connections and they whole "meme-mythos" of our own "Superhero" Florida-Man. NYC is so damn boring when it isn't Spider-Man at this point.
@@ExeErdna Beast Boy could speak for the poor iguanas and other innocent exotic pets gone feral (and turned into pests) lol. That'd be a great story-line right there?
@@DoveJS That's easily a Beast Boy, Vixen, and Swamp Thing comic.
@@ExeErdna omg you're right! We've absolutely been robbed. 🥲
CC: "Been aged down"
Everyone: "Ugh."
CC: "Is now entering college."
Everyone: "Oh."
But seriously, being aged down is easier to swallow when still an adult.
I've been really enjoying the "a day in the life of..." Style of the webtoons so far and hope they do more. Although I'm also one of the people who unironically enjoyed the show Powerless, so that may say something about my taste
powerless was so good tho
@@shamal17 I thought so. But it didn't last very long so it doesn't seem like the higher-ups agreed
@@kylebartlett9683 Yeah... i think it was a bit ahead of its time, because if it came out now I'm sure it would have more of an impact
"Although I'm also one of the people who unironically enjoyed the show Powerless... "
So then you like the show.
Unless saying that you and ironically like something makes it a double negative.
If not, I'm trying to figure out why the word unironically is in there when you could just say "I like it"
@@zufalllx Maybe they were straightforward in the past and other people teased them for liking Powerless, judging from the way they phrased it as "one of the people." That section could've used the word few in there, to fully express that this fan feels like they're in the minority, but that's how I understood it.
It's similar to how you're trying to teach them better for using the word unironically in an awkward manner. You could've let it go but you had to make sure this person understood they made a mistake with their use of terminology, instead of a mistake over what they enjoyed, because no one can possibly like things that have flaws in them. Other more vocal and critical fans don't always allow for that.
Maybe people started using the term "ironically enjoyed" as a white lie to protect themselves within online communities for having "bad taste" in content. Then others began specifying unironically to clarify that they weren't being glib.
Those are just the context clues I ran with and I know I'm assuming a lot about other people. Maybe I'm wrong about their situation. Also, maybe you were genuinely confused and hadn't considered or presumed any of this.
Vixen is a hero that I always hear about but haven’t found anything.
Also love the suit even the first one. Looking at this comic made me relove NYC though some brand anime lens.
Well, if you have any interest in the Arrowverse, she has a title episode, a CW Seed animated series, and Mari's grandmother from the 1940s JSA was featured in two seasons (on of which was focused on the Totems).
They should give her the Black Panther treatment
I got Vixen Volume 1. I usually recommend that as a start. It’s not a long read either.
I remember her from Batman Brave and the Bold
Now I can’t stop wondering how you can centrally open a can of beans for a commercial LOL but seriously, Vixen has always been underrated and I’m glad she’s getting a cool adaptation, I hope you review more of these
I feel like a party pooper because after 1 chapter, I am not a fan. I just feel that they painted the character of Vixen over with a generic plucky YA mc brush.
Also, as a West African who grew up in Nigeria, and then went to school abroad, I'm not fond of her being more American than African, although I'm sure many people will be able to relate to that. Just feels like non American black people don't get to have the good stuff most of the time.
And as for the tone...I don't think it suits her, as I've said, and the art is gorgeous, but imo feels like it's trying *too* hard to be wacky. Idk, it's hard to articulate after 2 weeks of insomnia.
Props where it's due tho: The Ghanaian stuff looked super authentic (Nigeria and Ghana are almost neighbours and from the people I've met, we share wuite a few things in common).
Also, tired of light skinned bumblebee. DC superhero girls is a great show, but I will not forgive them for light skinned Bumblebee.
You're not a party pooper at all, there are definitely reasons not to vibe with it. I feel like for me the canon changes are hitting less hard than they usually do is cause I feel like Webtoon has been up front about doing it's own thing with these characters.
@@CasuallyComics That is a very good point! These are pretty much elsworld/AUs (you're the reason I even know the term elsworld, lol).
I guess my issue is just that as someone who consumes cocmics mostly through webtoons the past few years (other than manga) I am completely burned out on the direction they're taking the character in.
When everyone is clumsy, quirky and relatable, nobody is.
Thank you for taking the time to read my thoughts! Been a fan for yearsss, since early on in the SGtG days. Keep being awesome!
I completely agree with you
I’m Nigerian too and I was kinda disappointed with her being more American than African
@@obara7366 It's so true they cannot make every webtoon the "quirky, down to earth, rom-com ish" piece. It's like sticking a fork in a socket and claiming that's lightning striking twice.
Every time Sasha titles a video "we need to talk", I imagine coming home from school and finding her seated at the kitchen table (filled with a stack of comics) with a stern expression...
I am already in love with this webtoon I already loved batman Wayne family adventures and I’m so excited for red hood and the outlaws and zatanna and the ripper coming out this summer
When I think of Vixen, I think of that time she used the power of a cuttlefish to hypnotize someone.
I'm glad Pizza Rat made it into this comic. Really moving up in the world.
Tall Beast Boy disturbs me, the image has been stuck in my head for a while and I don't know why I find it so unsettling.
Wonder Woman needs a webtoon with the amazons and the wonder girls (Donnna, Cassie and Yara)
Yesterday!
She needs a series wtf
It personally feels bad that they changed her to be from the USA rather than keeping her African. She should have been an African exchange student. Do research and (if you have the resources; they do) hire people from that culture to help you as paid experts. De-aging annoys me as it keeps pushing the cultural idea that younger is better and forgetting to have adults be main characters in stories. At least shes still an adult in this rather than * sigh* yet another Teenager. We get WAY to much Child, Teen and young adult viewpoints and representation!!! More stories of 27+ confident full adults who know who they are yet are still curious and learning/living enjoying life! I'm also sick of 'school' stories. The school system sucks! And I want to see more stories of people beyond that...
The cameos feel forced and too soon. The first issue is a time to let the main character shine. Feeling the NEED to have a rich white man who is 'cooler' and more well known/beloved swoop in and save her JUST as she was about to discover and unlock her own amazing powers so that she doesn't EVEN learn about them yet feels wrong to me, feels icky. Beast boy feels weird/forced and totally useless to the plot. What does he even do besides creep her out?
Why can't we just have a confident, sexy fully adult African Supermodel?!
Why did they feel the need to 1) reduce how African she is? 2) Make her younger more naive and less fully mature? 3) add in other male more 'well established' characters immediately without even giving her the chance to tell her own story and stand on her own? 4) Yet another story set in New York City; Why? (there's other places in the world! Media is over saturated with New York, enough!)
They probably have answers to these and it still seems enjoyable but I feel like I'd prefer the original version more personally. I feel like I'd dislike their answers. Unless they just were inspired and thought it was cool and truly innocently didn't think about the deeper implications. I'd be ok with it if that's the answer.
However:
Having her change in these ways Americanizes her more, makes her less unique and more generic. This is NOT more appealing to me. Especially on making her Raised in the USA instead of From Africa I really don't like how that makes me feel.
It really implies being from Africa is inferior, 'less-relatable', less marketable, less desired or otherwise... just 'lesser' and that's wrong. They do realize its a whole planet and not just USA?
Crazy pitch why not make her From Africa and even have the comic *Gasp* set in Africa? or have her be an exchange student in London, Prague, Berlin, Rio, etc! And hey they CAN actually hire writers FROM those places and consult with other writers from other places and backgrounds they have the resources.... I feel like being cheap, insensitive and lazy are not good justifications...
You can read stories and relate to characters who are living and doing things not in the USA! Why is it that so many stories are set in the USA or an entirely fictional other planet or version of Earth but fewer are set in other real world places? Why are 50% or more of the stories that are set in the USA set once again in New York city? Why? It makes them more bland frankly. Who is surprises by NEW York?
Really hoping it was the inspired story options because the other options feel bad.
Sorry for the overly critical and negative rant in what essentially seems like a very fun beautiful comic. Overall it would be fine if it was a new character (still I'm sick of New York and want more characters of at least 25+ personally)
It is better to be positive and enjoy art and it does look very well done, well written, beautiful art, etc.
They probably aged down Vixen because Webcomic readers are mainly young adults. People who are 30+ years old rarely know what Webcomic is. Thats why a lot of manga and comics in Webcomic are about teenagers or young adults. Its based on Webcomic's target readers. Plus, Superman and Batman, two of the most popular comic book characters are in their 30s or 40s. So, i dont think there's any problem with DC de-aging a not-so-popular character.
They used Vixen because of her name. She still is very well-known by youngsters like me. Many people grew up with Justice League Unlimited and she was pretty popular back then. She might not be well known like Superman, Batman, Nightwing or Green Lantern, but she has her fanbase. If they created a new character just for this one webcomic series, no one would read them because it has no name recognition.
I dont think this webcomic is bad. In fact, its pretty fun. If people can accept communist Superman, Hydra Captain America, vampire version of superheroes and Batman fused with Joker who became a god, then we can accept a fun and simple story about Vixen's young adult life.
You want a stoy about 27+ years old who explores life? Read Silk. Its about Cindy Moon aka Silk who is 28 years old and her journey of life after being trapped in a bunker for 10 years.
Too much text
Must be great to be a character in a comicbook - you get younger with age.
(Or alternately, if you wanted to play it for horror, the worst Groundhog Day Loop imaginable).
Anyway, as someone who thoroughly enjoyed Wayne Family Adventures, definitely will check this out!!!
Unless you are Judge Dredd. He keeps aging with his comics.
Reminds me of how they treated Aunt May in the movies. XD
That's crazy. She was made way back in the day and I only knew about her from the Justice League show!
I like that this comic is going with a cross between the plot and the slice of life. I love Wayne Family Adventures, but I've been wishing they'd do actual plot stories instead of gag a day strips for a while now. This seems like it'll be pretty great!
I cant wait to check this webtoon out, although i have to give a giant thanks to Casually Comics in general because i finally got into webtoons thanks to your Wayne Family Adventures video. From Wayne family adventures (which is great) i fell into a webtoons rabbit hole and i never looked back.
I love how much she looks like she was pulled right out of something like Totally Spies in a lot of panels, it's a very cute character design style.
AAAAAAA YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S SO CUTE
Not bad. I love the diversity of characters, I like making Vixen more of a fish out of water by making her American born connecting to her African roots.
I'm not a fan of the "franime" artstyle. I read a lot of manga so I love the general anime style but a lot of webcomics achieve the same cartoony style without going full Totally Spies or whatever. Aside from that, not bad.
Yeah, the art style is just off-putting to me.
Tbh Manou Azumi (One of the listed creators) does have a more anime style. If you look at her RUclips channel and instagram, you can tell.
Franime??
My only problem with the series is the cameos from other heroes came a little early and felt a little forced. I would have liked her to be solo for an issue or two.
I loved her appearance in Teen Titans GO! and in Justice League Unlimited and Brave and the Bold !!! MORE VIXEN PLEASE!!!! ....and where's the Vixen/Animal Man crossover??
By the by for those curious, in either the second or third chapter there's a map of where her "Magical signature" is emanating from. Based on that map she's going to Pratt.
Edit: You can see the map at 9:47 if you're curious.
So far I am really liking what Vixen NYC has to offer, I am also happy that not only Vixen is getting attention from this series, but Bumblebee is too. Both are characters and are kind of underrated compared to other DC heroes. I am interested in the other upcoming Web Toon DC series.
I know weird name pronounciations is like a meme on this channel, but hearing you pronouce Mari like Marie felt like an assault on my soul. That said, I always love it when Vixen gets the attention she deserves.
Tbh, there isn't much difference between Mari and Marie depending on what accent/language you speak.
As much as I love Vixen, I was afraid to read this. Partly because of the style and then partly because of a difference in tone and story. However, given that I desire more modern Vixen material I think I will read it. I’m a still a little sad that she doesn’t feel as Black or African as her previous versions, but it still looks interesting.
She's in New York for five seconds and runs into two superheroes. She's also saved by Batman who is patrolling in a city not his own during the middle of the day. I guess he skipped out on those FNL table reads.
I’m just glad that the folks at DC are actually using their legacy black characters like Vixen, John Stewart and Nubia
Glad they're showing Vixen some love
This looks pretty cool, I'm glad Vixen has a webtoon and I would love to see Bronze Tiger, Animal Man and Freedombeast in it
I'm excited for new Mari content, but YA has never been my cup of tea. Also I think people would have still related to her without her needing to be de-aged and have her origin changed; they did before, after all.
The DCAU was where I first got introduced to Vixen. And between her and Shayera's designs, Jon had some *fine* Women after him.
Vixen is arguably the most gifted superhero with multiple abilities like a nature-inspired swiss army knife. Just writing these words got me to thinking if she ever used the amazing ability of octopuses to blend seamlessly into their background, for example. I would love to see her in on the road adventures.
@8:28 actually LOLed seeing the outline where Batman was originally standing 😆
So she was originally created to be DC’s first African hero…so of course now they made her American?
Love it! Vixen is one of the reasons I got into reading comics, fell in love in JLU and then started reading things with her. So I'm excited to check this out!
DC editorial has a hard-on for Batman
I remember her from he JLA “Detroit era” but my first real exposure to the character was Mark Waid’s Flash series in the 90’s she and Wally team up to take on Gorilla Grodd
That was a nice, little three-parter. She had a short-lived, black leather outfit.
I love this character, I wish DC would expose her more
I was so excited for Vixen to finally get a new series that I read the first 3. I fell in love with it so quickly that I bought the remaining 5! 😂 Vixen has always been one of my favorite superheroes and for the longest time I felt like she's never been given a chance to truly shine while other characters have been over done to death. Although it's a little disappointing that she's born in Ghana and raised in America with this story. (At least I think that is how it's being done?) I'm just looking forward to there being something for Vixen with a hope it will translate to some bigger things in the future.
I really like this webtoon so far! It actually reminded me that I want to pick up some comics that Vixen appears in
My knowledge of Vixen came from JL Unlimited so I understand older fans being upset with the origin change even though I'm neutral about it. That being said, there are so few (mainstream) stories about African American immigrant kids/children of immigrants, I couldn't be happier.
My favorite Vixen is her JLU series but mostly the episode when her,Hawkgirl,Huntress and Black Canary teamed up to survive a fight with a brainwashed Wonder Woman.
I Wish I could get into the web toons but I'm old. Fun to see it covered and to know that they haven't given up on Vixen.
Has Vixen ever used mantis shrimp powers? I remember that was a cool ability in Project Power. Oh oh! Imagine her using wolverine frog powers 😂
Wasn’t expecting the strong anime vibes but also surprised with the little action present. The slice of life is strong
*Some thoughts:*
I like her being from the Carolinas. Too often comic writers paint the Southern states as a backwater joke, forgetting the majority of the population doesn't live in LA or NY.
I don't like how every animal themed DC character just randomly appears in Mari's life.
I get she's de-aged for this story, but the design they used isn't exactly "Super-Model"? I personally think she looks cuter and I love cute characters, but... that's not Mari. It's literally a plot point that she's hot.
I do like that she's starting off as an everyday-woman, with the possibility to grow. BUT I'm sad it's done here where it's going to be a short series that won't build on it.
I also love the art-style.
i feel like the old justice league cartoon being pretty much my first exposure to DC characters gave me a messed up sense of who the biggest DC characters were haha!
i always thought vixen must have been a famous comic character before she was in the show! and when that green latern movie came out, i was like "who is hal jordan? where is john?" and also being surprised that it turns out there's also a hawkMAN in the comics haha!
but yeah i always thought vixen had the coolest powers in the justice league! until i saw bwana beast in brave and the bold, he is ridiculous and amazing lol
Im having beautifully F-ed up visions of you as a child screaming “Fire!” while scooping the eyes out of any poor bastard who dare step to you! lol
So she's going to be a Teen Titan, date Beast Boy and eventually bring back the wonder twins!!!! Ok I like it 👍
She’s definitely a Vixen… And like it alot.
It's always nice to be introduced to a character I've never heard of; almost certainly my fault. This would probably benefit from a close reading, because at the moment I'm just seeing all the easy comparisons to other characters and that's not fair to the creators of this one.
The villain of this Webtoon has been immediately discredited by his choice of ice cube size.
I like the artstyle and anime-esque aspects
Warner Bros needs to hire you to voice Batman in all their animated movies, we need that gruff voice. haha
A Bwana Beast Vibe team up is surely in the offing in this strip.
Kudos to DC for still trying to make Vixen happen. One of these days she'll get her day in the sun. One of these days.
I'm really glad I found this channel. I love how she always looks at the comics from different perspectives, understanding that different fans have different tastes and ways of approaching the material.
It's a breath of fresh air.
Dc vs vampires #6! Night King!
All of their Webtoon stories so far have a cannon fan fiction vibe to them, and honestly, I love it. The is just a college AU and I need to read it immediately
Edit: I read it immediately, I love it, and feel very bad for Beast Boy lol
I really am enjoying the Bat Webtoon it is very well done and a refreshingly wholesome take on the character and while I am only familiar with Vixen through the old JLA cartoon, I look forward to reading these.
I love the design of beast boy
I first learned of Vixen from Brave and the Bold, and then saw her again in Justice League Unlimited, and I really like her character. I haven't read Vixen NYC, but I think I might do so later. Doesn't seem very bad, honestly. Looks pretty good.
I wondered if you knew about the Batman Webtoons strip. Now, I know you know, and I need to find and bookmark the Vixen one. Thanks.
Yes! Return of the Batman voice!
Sasha You really should look into voice over for the next animated Batman!
I liked B’wannabeast in Batman Brave and the Bold
Forgot it was Vixen that he dated tho lol
His death was really sad
Personal head cannon of mine: the DC comics on webtoon are all in the same universe taking inspiration and lore from larger cannon but they themselves won't branch off webtoon and stay in that website related cannon.
Brave and the Bold not only paired Vixen with B'wana Beast... but also made him one of the most heroic characters with a sad end. It is amazing how good the more serious moments of that show was. One of the best I tell you. Also made it imposible to see Vixen date anyone but B'wana XD. They are shipped for life in my heart.
My favorite version of Vixen is the Imaginext Super Friends version just because I love that toy line, but second place goes to the JLU one soully for the seen were she crushes some crooks by making herself as heavy as a elephant and some how doesn't kill them in the process. It felt so Looney Tunes.
I'd definitely watch a "Vixen" anime.
Now I want to see the cast members of FNL. Is there a DC version of *Kenan Thompson?* What sketches did Bruce do?
Great profile of this, i am excited to see where this goes
I really enjoy the art style, especially the coloring
Super excited to see where they go with this!!! And I'm really excited to see how they use Vixen's powers in the webtoom because there's nearly no limit to what she can do
I read the three first episodes (never even knew Vixen existed before) and I really liked it. I've been into slice of life in general lately, and this looks perfect for me.
Going to check out the Wayne family, finally. Now I can only wait for Marvel ("my" superheroes since I was a kid) to jump on the train.
No matter how good of bad the material you cover, your videos always bring joy. Hope you keep it up for a long time.
I was getting Kraven the Hunter vibes from the Spider-Man cartoon where he has a reality tv show (might of been a livestream) for the villain
anything with vixen is a win in my book
Breaking news! Villain loses all threatening vibes because Sasha criticized his ice cubes.
I find the comic entertaining and a great way to introduce a younger/newer audience to Vixen/DC. Comics can be hard to jump into, so I'm always here for jumping in points.
I'm starting to hear your Batman voice in my head and I'll read comics now
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I know nothing about him but the fact she brought up Vibe maee me strangely happy
I liked this webtoon. I don’t know how to get the issues 8 forward but I like it. Sure, I enjoy how she looked in Justice League Unlimited, but this dorky first timer Vixen is just as entertaining. It gives more relatability to her. There are some funny moments too like when she geeked out over the Batman and how he just vanished the split second she blinks
Awesome top! I always thought the was an original character to the animated series. Thanks for the history lesson!
This looks like a lot of fun
I wish there was some of these for marvel characters, you have no idea the depths I'd go to to get a wolvraine family adventure
Not entirely relevant but, every time wonder women is featured near or with a dary product I get flash backs to milk wars. That....thing scared me
I find this interesting. My addition to her lore would be for her to be able to channel the power of heroes with animal totems like Batman or villains like Cheetah, or maybe even beings Man-Bat or King Shark. Food for thought...
My favourite Vixen is JLU the animated series Vixen. I've always wanted a Vixen solo comic book series coming off of the Return of the Lion Limited series but...alas!!!
That Thunderous cover in the back is a real eye catcher.....Think I'm about to burn money at Amazon...
Didn't know about this but I'm down just for more Vixen representation so thanks for bringing this to my attention, some of changes definitely strike far with her new origin and fluciation in age but I'll give it a shot since I only feel I know her most from team-ups with JLD, SS, and briefly in Animal Man (hope Buddy shows up in this) as opposed to standing on her own. It's funny how Bruce kinda shoe-horned his way into this but keeping the "Bat-Dad" attitude is still fun to see.
Looks cute, but do hope we get an alternate older take that's closer to classic VIxen, not instead of this younger americanised version, but just so there's more Vixen in general (also DC needs to cast Danai Gurira or Florence Kasumba as her already in a live version)
My favorite. I hope this will be put into print.
Looks like I have a reason to go to webtoons. I'm loving this and that Batman is basically the iron man of DC Webtoons, he'll just show up everywhere
I should download webtoon again. I really like that DC is doing collaborations with them. Also that's a gorgeous artstyle thanks for the video.
I've really enjoyed this and I hope you'll continue covering this vixen webtoon. Always happy to see batman, can't wait to see what happens with Gar...
I hope you keep covering this.
Thanks for pointing out that Bumblebee looks like Power Girl there, I though the same thing.
All i know of her is from the justice league cartoon, and..... Yeah that's... That's a good first impression. I had an alright childhood