"YOU THINK EMINEM DON'T GOT GHOSTWRITERS...ITS CALLED D12 & PROOF.." CYHI SAYS EM IS TOP 5 BUT....
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Saying Eminem has ghostwriters is a WILD statement to make out loud 😂
Cloudcatcher tittle , this people are full of BS and dont know any better they dont deserve more views on the topic at least from my viewpoint I'm out of this channel.
One thing about Eminem, no matter how good or bad the bar is, you know for a fact that he wrote it!
have you ever seen eminem write a lyric?
@@commentscorner617 yup
@@commentscorner617yes he has a box full of thousands of lyrics online you can find, some have been sold, all his handwriting
have you seen someone writing lyrics for eminem?@@commentscorner617
@@commentscorner617Have you ever not seen him write a lyric?😂 bro trying to say if you didn't see it, it didn't happen😅.
Lol, anyone whos ever listened to D12 knows they arent writing for Eminem. Thats one of the dumbest things ive heard
Right. If they write so good for Em how do you explain how weak D12 was.
Em wrote for D12…the group has talked about it many times.
Sounds like he’s just misconstruing the definition of a ghostwriter. Friends giving you topics is not that. Friends suggesting punchlines & you integrate them in a bar is not that. Writing an entire bar, or worse entire verse or song, WOULD be that.
Em 100 percent wrote for Bizarre..and Big Proof was HELL. # RIP
THESE mfs say w.e to TRY nd blemish Shady's legacy.
Royce credits Eminem for teaching him syllables and rhyme patterns
In the K. Dot & Eminem session, Em famously kicked everyone out of the studio just to see if Kendrick really wrote his own lyrics. If he is that psychotic over a guest feature, ain’t no way in hell Em has ghost writers.
Too bad he didn't do that with drake. But me thinks he doesn't respect drake anyway lol
There is not one great MC under the sun who has not gotten help…..rappers who don’t get help are in part, the ones that don’t “make it”
Is that for the love game song? That shit was ass wish they had ghostwriters for that haha
I think you're misunderstanding what he means by ghostwriters. Not somebody who writes the entire song for you but someone who might help you adjust a bar or melody or hook to make the song overall better. Based on some of the shit Em has put out in his career, he could've used some help there instead of doing it all himself. 😂
@@seanyoung9014a ghost writer is a person who writes another rappers lyrics in a way that they won't know who wrote it. Hence the word (ghost ) it's more than just help with a bar. It's the whole verse. Help is just help. But to wrote somebody whole verse is ghostwriting. Nothing more or less. Mad skills, 50 cent , Jada ,styles p,
Nas were ghost writers where people didn't know they wrote it until they said they did.
The fact that this dude thinks there are 12 members in D12 says it all. 😂
To, I had the exact same thought.
😂😂😂😂 NO CAP!!!
Haha. Was just about to say that. Lost all credibility after that comment. 😂😂
"Then give Album of the Year to somebody that no one's ever even heard of
All I know is I wrote every single word of everything I ever murdered
Time to separate the sheep from goats
And I got no faith in your writers, I don't believe in ghosts"
-Eminem
We do not know whether that was just a bar or the truth.
@@themack74 if you knew Eminem you would know it's both
@@darrickbrown88you literally don’t know him lol
@@wayne2746 If you we're a fan, you'd understand I know him as much as a fan can know an artist. However, you know nothing.
@@darrickbrown88you said all of that to say you don’t know him at all lol
D12 wrote for Eminem? CyHi is high af 🤣🤣🤣
Real Talk 😅😅
😂😂
Where did he say they wrote for him?
@@peferredservice2207 The title of the video. It's incredibly misleading, they should rectify it.
Maaaan if Safree wrote for Nicki anything is possible 🤣🤣🤣
Eminem ain't accepting anything. He would kick you out if you offered him a bar. He's a principled Emcee
How do you know ?????
@@kingofuseddurablecars.ls6040💯😂
All these assumptions.
just bars? cause i know for a fact he receives beats with hooks already on them by artists who are not on the final song that you hear. by definition that is ghostwriting.
We're you there? How would you kno if you weren't there during a session 🤔?
The hate on EMINEM is at an all time high.
Facts it's like the past 2 years ppl been goin ham for no reason
@@tonystarks7722his racist fans and sellouts blacks.
Em is trash fr. His longevity is trash
@@jefeseason4990 u sound upset he your favorite rapper favorite
@@jefeseason4990goofy man, kids in africa know eminems name. When you die youll be forever nameless.
Mr porter from d12 recently tweeted about the benzino situation and commented on how benzino used ghostwriters and em has never. I’ve never heard anyone accuse em of having writers. Especially nowadays, he’s flow and rhyme pattern are so unique. Literally no one else is rapping like that
If you listened to D12 members rap you know that they ain’t ghost write for Em 😂😂😂
Boi stop... Em writes all his own lyrics... The fact to even claim that is ridiculous
Do you think EM had the best verse on Forever
If co ur se he did you facktard . Kayne and Wayne rewrote their verses
@@corybritton1504 that meant nothing. The beat switch up is the reason EM verse sounds so good… Quote a bar from EMs verse I’ll put one from Wayne’s and kanye that murders it.
@@jefeseason4990You put the best verse last. That's simple song structure, the part you want people to remember, the part with the main message is what you put last. So my question is why is his verse last?
@@azzifyy5988 not in this case it would nearly be impossible to switch up the beat like they did for EM then go back to the song original beat. But drop your favorite EM bar from that song I guarantee every other rapper has a better bar..
“All I know is I wrote every single word of
Everything I ever murdered
Time to separate the sheep from goats (yeah)
And I got no faith in your writers, I don't believe in ghosts
When rap needed it most, I was that wing and a prayer
A beacon of hope, put a B-I-R-D in the air”
Preach 💯
Don't you wish all these dudes knew this. You got all these people always talking shit about Eminem, but they actually don't know a goddamn thing. Eminem don't have no goddamn ghost writers. The last four albums all he does is talk shit on people that use Ghost writers.
❤️🔥
That shit was kinda ass 😂😂😂😂it was ok not good enough to put up here em old shit wasn't on the same level lol slim shady em maybe not this one tho
Yeah it will be if u cant recognise or grasp the words dummy@@TheHiphop98
Even people who are not a fan of em know this man writes his own shit.
Em said it himself when it comes a day that he needs a ghost writer he needs to put the mic down 🎤
Em doesn’t believe in those he’s really hip Hop.
Everyone can express their opinions but know the man’s background
For facts.
jealousy is a nasty thing
Has he ever listened to D12, you think they are writing for Eminem 😂 maybe bouncing ideas off each others but everyone does that.
Right. If D12 can write like that why didn't they do it for themselves lol
This is exactly my first thoughts. Cyhi hating. Crazy, dude had a similar opportunity as Em, Em was backed by Dre, Cyhi was backed Ye. Em became legendary, Cyhi just another emcee.
Eminem doesnt have ghost writers, its a fact. People just cant accept hes as good as he is🤣🤣
🙄.....that is such a false narrative....cyhi better than this.
It's real
@@kazaleanodoc2526 if em don’t send a shot then it wasn’t a lie
That might be the dumbest shit i ever heard. So what, niggas gotta throw shots at every mf that says something they dont like? Come on, bro.@lakernation8370
So basically he’s like “I’ve done it, so everybody else must do it too” 😂 I’m no Eminem fan but this is nuts
@@kazaleanodoc2526keep crying it’s not real goofy 😂
Em had NO GHOSTWRITERS !!!
Was expecting an intelligent take from Cyhi. Real lyricists take offence to ghost writer accusations, you’d never hear him say it about Kendrick or Cole, but Eminem disrespect is free game because he’s white?
As a black EM fan, that's exactly what it seems like to me 💯
he been around ye too long....he just be rambling bout shit like does.
and iLove CyHi...hell, the industry & culture needs a CyHi.
and then goes off (no relation) & say shit like this during his press runs steps on...
channels Ye rant...again.
Just because Chyi ghost writes for others dont mean Eminem has ghostwriters
THAT part
Well he is in the industry and we are not. So we really don’t know who’s really doing what.
he knows far more than u and i do
@@meladgoat about his not everyone's.
That mentality is so stuck & boxed in. “I do this so everybody else must too” like no you might be the minority
Wow. Bending the notion of "ghostwritter" just to... Not... Give... EM... His... Flowers 😅😅
Y'all gotta make everything about Em. He's saying that everyone has had help in the studio and all the ones signed to major labels have had help because they're a product. It doesn't really matter what you think because that's a fact.
@@seanyoung9014all he heard was Eminem and got his panties in a bunch lol. Stan’s are the worse
@@mackl8305 Whole comment section going crazy like somebody talked about their mama in 8th grade. Like it's impossible that Em ever had help with a bar or something. I'm pretty sure Em would tell you he's had help before.
This cyhi dude is a devil.
That's all they do. Lol. Crazy
CYHI is so dumb, nothing he said makes sense. lol
These guys talk bad about Eminem not out of hatred but rather envy: they can’t figure Eminem out, and because Eminem doesn’t do what most other rappers do, they try to input their hangups upon him. They simply cannot figure Eminem out.
definitely got that vibe of “I’ve done it so everybody else must too”
The dude said Em is top 5? You guys are so ignorant its pitiful! Listen to what he's saying? He's not talking about writing someone's else raps! SMH!
Your comment is on ET Lifestyle’s video today for this convo
He raps circles around all of D12. He may have ghostwritten all of their lyrics except Bizarre bc Bizarre’s lyrics were too bad to be ghostwritten.
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I can't wait till Eminem drop a new album!
The only problem with that is no one in d12 has the intricate rhyme schemes that em has and with all due respect em is the best lyricist out the group
Disrespectful to say eminem used ghost writers. That's the biggest thing for him. He would never do that
He sounds like the irrelevant bitter ghostwriter that he is.
Too many people don't want to give Eminem his props but safe innit. Beca Eminem was also a ghostwriter for Dr. Dre just give credit where it is due instead of chasing clout from someone who is better than you.
What's all this hate on Eminem about? Em did things in hip hop that won't be replicated.
Cyph is buggin Em would NEVER use a ghost writer wtf? 😂😂
Exactly 💯 Eminem is beyond a student of Hip-Hop! Cyhi bumped his head
Assumptions
You know em personally?
I’m from Detroit . If you think bizzare or D12 was writing for him you crazy as hell . Lol D12 formed because they all was solo artist and came together . But none of them are even close to the same lyricist as EM lol
Yeah… no. Eminem doesn’t have ghostwriters. That sounds ridiculous.
Yeah... The Em hate recently has been sad to witness. The clout chasing is getting old and sad.
Pulling from your environment or having the homies give you a hook or a bar here and there IS NOT the same as ghostwriting. An emcee of Cyhi's stature knows the difference, he just hatin
This dude is all over the place 😂 one second he’s talking about ghostwriters, then stage presence, then Afrobeat, then record labels then back to ghostwriters again
LOl You just explained what he said but some way you added that he implying that someone wrote his rhymes??
Pretty sure saying he has a ghostwriter implies someone writes his rhymes, I didn't add anything
I wouldn't be surprised if Benzino paid Cyhi to say this garbage 😭
LOL you're assuming Benzino has money 😂 The dude wouldn't be chasing clout so hard then, begging his daughter for money on social media
Ghostwriting has a very clear definition and what Cyhi talking about is not it.
I like Cyhi the Prince, but to come all the way to New York to hate on Eminem is crazy. He's a bar MC, so to not to give Eminem his respect as a lyrical MC is wild
Inspiration, contributing a line, or polishing up an idea should not be mistaken with ghostwriting a full verse.
Think we are starting to bend the definition of ghostwriter.... Theres a big difference between playing shit for people and getting feedback vs. actually having lines or verses written for you and given to you either on paper or through reference tracks
Y'all gotta stop trying to tarnish ems pin. If you can say what line was given or who ghost wrote then cut the shit you only know stories from who you wrote for cyhi. Everyone don't need or want that kinda help.
Yaa Cyhi better be ready cuz Em will definitely throw bars his way. One thing u gotta love about Eminem is soon as someone speaks a little sideways about him he's ready to go lol
Cyhi will KIL em
Zip ya it ya young clown
@@williemazehaze8673Nah
Cyhi is way better than corny Em lol
em is only like that with pop stars, tv show hosts, r&b singers, and senior citizens
Em is the ghost writer he did it on the chronic he wrote for dre
Nah, Cyhi’s definition of ghostwriting is crazy, we all know what it is. And Em is notorious for being weird in the studio. I’ve heard stories from Alchemist, Royce and Kendrick about how serious he is about the writing process
Cyhi u can’t expect every rapper to think like you. U and em not even in the same lane. Far as the pen game
You should've said performance or something. Em would tell you Cyhi nice
He is so nice this may have been bait. He has written for so many. He probably got styles we ain't even heard.
Cyhi is top tier as far as rap skills go.
His definition of ghost writing is confusing tho.
@@SystemChannel no he not. In your opinion he can be.
@@SystemChannel think about that. Just claim Eminem has a ghostwriter is crazy. Em has put in work for rap and hip hop. Till this day, he pay respect to the OG’s who started hip hop. He’s definitely one of the masters when it comes to the pen.
Em havin a ghostwriter is like Steph Curry having a ghost shooter.
No way D12 wrote for Em. I can see Royce giving him some lines but I think Em is too disciplined of a rapper to have someone write an entire song or even verse for him
Stop rah if you act black putting Durags speaking in a deep black voice somebody might write for him
Cyhi version of writing for someone is different from what u think. Cyhi never actually wrote bars for Kanye but he did help refine songs. D12 & Royce definitely helped em in that regard
Anyone can help with refining a song but he used the term ‘ghostwriter’
Ghostwriters don’t get credited for their work. They only get paid. CyHi has writing credits on dozens of Kanye songs.
Could have happened when he was on drugs.
@@paveyoung6121cy hi definitely wrote bars for Kanye. Matter fact that whole yeezuz cd is nothing but cy hi bars. If you are was or an emcee or really analyze bars. You know someone’s bars, style the way they construct their lines and those are cy hi’s bars. Just like most of my twisted is pushas bars.
When it comes to a battle against someone he doesn't use ghostwriters. Collaboration on a track, Bad Meets Evil, D12, it's collaboration, not ghostwriter. Diss tracks is pen vs pen.
It's like if I couldn't do it no one can? Casually discredit people
Y’all need to hit up Benzino at the Red Roof inn. 🤣
He wrote every line he murdered. The man prides himself above everything on the fact that he writes what he spits.
Sad state of affairs in the industry when instead of appreciating people and crediting them for their incredible work & lyrics over the years, people would rather doubt them. Sad state of affairs indeed when ghostwriters are being tired as a "norm"" in this genre.
How many incredible lyrics has Em written in features and records over these years? And you're speculating D12 may have written his shit for him?
If it makes you envious, make efforts to raise your game to match his, instead of taking shots at him.
Em never had ghost writers! The notion is ridiculous. He’s a recluse who does nothing but write rhymes
Podcast has turned into come here sit with us and talk too us about the next person from you’re perspective .. soo many grown men speaking on a man not in the presence or convo
Ong 💯
Math recently been getting Em haters on the show.
Gotta get them views
I can honestly say i truley the one thing i believe about Eminem is that he does not have ghost writers or ask people for lines. I swear that is the one thing id never ever believe. Talking about making a song and so.eone writing u a verse is 2 TOTALLY seperate things. People r just sticking up for Benzino cause its Eminem. If it was against anyone else that admitted they had other people write it folks would be losing theyre mind saying oh that isnt fair and no good,but because its against Eminem tnat goal post is gonna be moved because people just are sick of him being at the top. Its crazy,not to mention every interview about anything people will put eminems name on there just for those clicks. Can be 10 seconds long but will say so and so speaks on Eminem
Did Cyhi just admit that he uses ghost writers. This a dirty game
Sounds Like Hate
Nobody wrote or fed Em his verses or words, that's the point. It's not ghostwriting to write your own shit and put a song together.
Exactly, lame artist trying to discredit EM when he's one of the few artists who writes his own lyrics.
Em don’t need ghostwriters
You know em had ghostwriters for infinite, right? Look it up.
@@gaticusx2933 no he didn’t bro stop with bull now
@@gaticusx2933 yall believe anything, the man is a student of the game he never need it no one to write for him
@sterlinghines1240 the same could be said for yall stans...yall believe everything " good" about eminem, but reject any possible flaw about him. Yall pathetic.
@@gaticusx2933 we know the nigga don’t need a ghost writer Fosho stop hate if you don’t like him come but you can never say he need it a ghost writer
Anyone willing to go on a pod cast or any media platform and willingly discredit themselves for the sake of being counter culture or holding it down or whatever lame ass reason to try and play down another mans contributions to anything based on skin tone, clout, or whatever is pitiful and sad. Em doesn't need ghost writers #1, For #2 there isnt a ghost writer that could write for Em, The game for example has said he was amazed by Ems writing process and how he writes in circles and what he writes he ends up rapping in reverse order. Game who just dissed Em who witnessed Ems process isnt going to mention possible ghost writers if it was real? Nobody has ever mentioned Ghost writers and Em in any conversation until Benzino was caught slippin, Why is that? Anyone saying Em has ghost writers are in their feels and delusional trying to justify their stance that Benzino won something 😂 even with the clout Benzino dropped Diego 😂. Wait till Em sees this 🤔
You are reachin fam!
Em dont use ghost writers. Boucing ideas isnt writinf for someone
“All I know is I wrote every single word of everything I ever murdered. Time to separate the sheep from goats… and I got no faith in ya writers: I don’t believe in ghosts”
Yeah, EM ain't gonna let this slide.
Cyhi said Top 5 just to disguise the hate.
No one is writing ems raps. Maybe he got ideas. But no one is writing his shit word for word.
I bet my life on it Eminem has never asked anyone for bars. If he was dissing someone he might’ve asked for info on a person but as far as his raps thats Eminem. If he ever had a ghostwriter than it must’ve been his biggest stan cuz nobody writes quite like Eminem. Its not just the bars and wordplay….he’s witty and comes up with crazy sh*t that most people wouldnt think of let alone spit it
naw Em is notorious for not allowing anyone in when he's writing and recording. even royce said the bads meet evil album was recorded. kendrick and may others also stated it.
If D12 and or Proof ghostwrote for Em, how come none of their solo or collaborative music efforts ever reflected that? They were dope MC's but they never made anything creatively earth shattering. And even in the early days, you can hear Em structure his syllables; rhyme schemes, and flow patterns a level or two above Kuniva; Swifty, Porter, Bizzare (duh), and Proof. Royce is just about neck and neck with Em but he always credits Em for pushing his own pen and structuring syllables. This seems like he just had a dumb thought in his head that he said out loud but didn't want to back down from his point.
People are capping when Proof was alive.
He always said EM wrote his own bars, which is why he used to sneak him in schools to freestyle against other people.
To be fair EM learned a lot from Proof, otherwise I agree
Impeccable storytelling, Freestyling, and authenticity should always be mandatory for a Rap or Hip-Hop artist. If we are talking about Entertainment and Business.
The ghostwriter thing is crazy I mean my people will do anything to discredit em I don’t understand the hate but it’s getting old everybody don’t need a mic or interview In my opinion.
Cyhi is a good rapper...but now he just tryna to dampen someone shine. He sound like a hater.
Tell Eminem to do something about it and tell him no subliminals please.
To do something about it? Give a him a career that he doesn't have... Imagine being a ghostwriter in the first place, but imagine being one that no ones really cares about or knows like that LMAO.@@BlackMusicGenre
@@PPG61st No . Eminem has been punching down for 25 years. He's scared of Game he ducked Canibus for 3 years and waited until he was star and had the machine behind him to finally hustle up some courage to make it known he had a beef with Canibus. Now he's been ducking Benzino. Where's Eminem's historical battles on wax? Where is his Nas vs Jay-Z, Ice Cube vs Common, Jadakiss vs Beans ? Eminem much rather cat fight with pop stars and celebrities.
Em don’t have any ghost writers and no offense meant to D12 but if you’ve ever listened to them, you’d know this is the dumbest s*** you’ve ever heard
Royce, Budden, Crook..Joell, None of them dudes ever hinted at Em not writing his own verse.
Them dudes would crucify anyone who they wouldn't respect as a MC
That's all the Proof(R.I.P) no pun intended, you will ever need on this subject.
That’s a false representation. There’s a difference between the homies throwing ideas or even contributing bars cuz thats family
Bizzare said Eminem was checking their verses and if it was terrible he was giving them the shoulder touch meaning "Try again buddy" 😂😂😂😂
They will say anything to discredit this man
Exchanging ideas is NOT the same as ghost writing 😂
Thinking Em is built like regular rappers is insane 😂😂😂
Cyhi dope and Math dope. Would love to get some of these Chi town beats to both of them
If anything Em wrote for D12. Everybody wants to hate and criticize Em's subject matter and say nobody raps about the stuff he raps about it but now they wanna say he has ghost writers? These dudes is goofy.
Everyone's always got eminems name in their mouth. Hes gotta be the most talked about hip hop artist of all time whether it's disrespect or praising him. There's one thing eminem would never do and that'd have a ghost written line in any of his songs. He has ghost written for people but he would never have someone ghost write for him
What a goofy thing to say. Em’s brain is the only one that can come up with the shit he writes, that’s why he doesn’t sound like anyone. If D12 were really his ghostwriters; wouldn’t they be better rappers than what we’ve heard when Bizarre, Proof, Denaun, Swifty McVay and Kuniva rap on tracks? Em is the last rapper in the world that would use a ghostwriter. Dude’s trippin.
Proof could hold his own. Outside em he was the best in d12
Exactly
Exactly
Exactly
"All I know is I wrote every single word of everything I ever murdered
Time to separate the sheep from goats (Yeah)
And i got no faith in your writers, i don't believe in ghosts"
-Em in Fall
Eminem got notebooks on noteobooks, that's a lot of wasted paper if you just gon say what mfs gon write for you, js
How does that work when everyone is cooking up in their bedroom home studio? Shutting it down like that would be hard to police,
Lol 4:04 this dude said "garnish that attention" instead of garner 😂😂😂
😂😂
Prime example of inferiority complex.
I grew up with Proof, Swifty was in a click called the Rabees, Denaun was doing beats, Baatin, Bizarre Kid used to be in Cyphers. When Proof started hanging with Em more he started rapping more crazy because he used to Rhyme kinda like Nas/Masta Ace. But Em held his own at the Hip Hop Shop on Saturdays, Bizarre and Em went to NY & linked became an Outsider. On his own he hasn't needed a ghost writer then or now. Side note PROOF didn't write rhymes so what the fck is you saying
facts Infinite pure NAS /Treach
Proof even said they used to skip school and he and em would sneak into other schools and battle. And that he would bet all his money on eminem because everyone thought he was gonna lose. But he would win. Even royce said he learned all that cluster syllables type of rhyming because of eminem.
@@D.Baatar1998 Don't forget AZ too.
You think Eminem didnt have a ghostwriter? Nobody with common sense and an understanding of his lyricism would ever think that.
FACTS
So are you saying he had ghostwriters or not?
One word makes your comment extremely hard to understand
Eminem: “Hey bizarre, give me one of your hot bars” 😂😂
I see CyHi wants to be the next Benzino.😂 This claim will definitely get a diss thrown your way, which I think he wants.🤦🏾♂️
Who is that fool?
This fool talking like he has the skill to even lace Em's shoes. Hes good but not even close
If D12 was helping with ghostwriting then explain Relapse, Recovery, MMLP 2, Revival, Kamikaze and MTBMB? His pen has actually gotten better since proof passed.
If D12 wrote for Em, more like Em wrote for them like he wrote for Dre.
Em has famously said if there comes a day I can’t write my own shit. I’ll retire
Its really scary when you can read 20 comments and no one listened or understood what he was saying??
I can't think of anything more corny than a top 5 rapper list. You have over 50 years of emcees. 50!!!!!! Enough with this top 5 bullsh*t cause it's childish. Anybody can have their tip five FAVORITES, but to even consider there's a top five greatest rapper list is the dumbest sh*t ever
Mega was needed in this conversation.
Em is one of the last real artist out he already spoke on it your not a artist an can't be considered a goat if the shit you spitting didn't come from you you'll be considered a entertainer like drake