It would be great if you made a video of framing a Bay window with brick veneer as low height wall and wood trims and cladding to the top above. Please!!
My wife and I are going on a missions trip to Papudo Chile in October. we are going to built a 12 by 16 foot octagon gazbo. Do you have any video I could watch for information I can use in constructing and building a roof for this gazbo? I am experienced in all types of framing but only having 10 days to build I can use all the professional insight you have Thanks Heath
Do you read these and do you have any step by step for a hand cut roof I’ve seen your videos and scrolled through can’t find one that starts with common rafters design and hips
sum1sw The software is SketchUp. Just search Trimble SketchUp and download the free "Make" version which is very capable and what I used for all my videos. If you want to go all in get a 3D Connexion Space Pro 3D mouse which, again, is what I use to make modeling activity fast and efficient. Kinda sounds like I get a kick-back from these guys but I don't :-)
Hey Bob, I'm not sure I understand your comment but I think the answer is that the hips still run at 22.5 degrees to the wall plates on an octagon. This compares to the 45 degree angle they typically run on a regular hip. Plumb cuts on regular 45 degree hips would be cut at 8:17 with an 8:12 common rafter but, as the video shows, those plumb cuts are different when then number of sides is different than 4. If I've missed your point just re-post the question and I'll try again... Thanks for watching!!
lets say i have a 6/12 roof. useing a frameing square to find my angles i put the square on 6'' and 12'' mark. now cutting a hip for the same roof i put my square on 6'' and 17'' to get mt plumb and seat cut. now concider that hip to be on a 90 degree wall corner with the 6'' and 17''. now my question to you is if that corner is over 90 degrees or an octagon can i still use the 6'' 17'' ? thanks for your help
Being you are on a 22.5 the base measurement is less. On a 45 degree hip the outside corner is square so both base legs are the same. (opposite & adjacent) 12" squared + 12" squared = 288" the square root of that is 16.97". So we use 17". For your 22.5 degree you need to take the cosine of 22.5 degrees (.92387953251) Take the standard base leg (the run of 12" for the common rafters) and divide the 12" by the .92387953251 to get the run for the 22.5 degree hip which will equal 12.989" Call it 13" Cut a test piece to make sure.
Have you ever considered doing a rough video and get the visual in a coherent state then shoot it again shot by shot without extraneous camera movement and only then creating a script with the commentary. Then re record and edit the commentary to remove misstatements or repeating yourself anymore than necessary. I am sure that is similar to the process of editing an article for Fine Homebuilding. My point is to apply professional standards to demonstrating professional construction methods, i.e. good lighting, good clear sound, NO lens zooming and lock the camera down - even on a piece of 2 x 4 rather than handheld (which is a real skill that takes years of experience.) I do like the idea of an octagon building and remember a long ago article in FH about a small three story Octagon house built on a narrow lot in Boston. Wish I could find that article again as you have me dreaming again.
How many of these have you actually framed? Using that block at the top makes it very hard to frame, because you can't get in there to nail the rafters. The best way to build an octagon is to start from the CORNERS, and bring the first pair of hips opposite each other, and join them together, via the 2nd pair of hips at 90 degrees to the first pair. Then you fill in the remaining 4 hips. Forget about that block altogether. There's more reasons than I've mentioned to not use that block.
Thank you for the video it really helps me with ideas through carpentry studies,am a trained carpenter Student at one of the vocational school in PNG
Thank you so much for this!
It would be great if you made a video of framing a Bay window with brick veneer as low height wall and wood trims and cladding to the top above. Please!!
My wife and I are going on a missions trip to Papudo Chile in October. we are going to built a 12 by 16 foot octagon gazbo. Do you have any video I could watch for information I can use in constructing and building a roof for this gazbo? I am experienced in all types of framing but only having 10 days to build I can use all the professional insight you have Thanks Heath
Do you read these and do you have any step by step for a hand cut roof I’ve seen your videos and scrolled through can’t find one that starts with common rafters design and hips
Very nice!
Really appreciate your time and effort ;)
Did you upload this design to 3D warehouse? Because I cant find it
I like the video is there any where I can down load this model to play with it.
Nice work, nie video. Just curious, what 3D software is that?
sum1sw
The software is SketchUp. Just search Trimble SketchUp and download the free "Make" version which is very capable and what I used for all my videos. If you want to go all in get a 3D Connexion Space Pro 3D mouse which, again, is what I use to make modeling activity fast and efficient. Kinda sounds like I get a kick-back from these guys but I don't :-)
Thank you so much. It seems to be an affordable piece of software
say the roof was a 8/12 would you cut the hip on a 8/17 ? Im confused due to the 22.5
Hey Bob,
I'm not sure I understand your comment but I think the answer is that the hips still run at 22.5 degrees to the wall plates on an octagon. This compares to the 45 degree angle they typically run on a regular hip. Plumb cuts on regular 45 degree hips would be cut at 8:17 with an 8:12 common rafter but, as the video shows, those plumb cuts are different when then number of sides is different than 4.
If I've missed your point just re-post the question and I'll try again...
Thanks for watching!!
lets say i have a 6/12 roof. useing a frameing square to find my angles i put the square on 6'' and 12'' mark. now cutting a hip for the same roof i put my square on 6'' and 17'' to get mt plumb and seat cut. now concider that hip to be on a 90 degree wall corner with the 6'' and 17''. now my question to you is if that corner is over 90 degrees or an octagon can i still use the 6'' 17'' ? thanks for your help
Being you are on a 22.5 the base measurement is less. On a 45 degree hip the outside corner is square so both base legs are the same. (opposite & adjacent) 12" squared + 12" squared = 288" the square root of that is 16.97". So we use 17". For your 22.5 degree you need to take the cosine of 22.5 degrees (.92387953251) Take the standard base leg (the run of 12" for the common rafters) and divide the 12" by the .92387953251 to get the run for the 22.5 degree hip which will equal 12.989" Call it 13" Cut a test piece to make sure.
Have you ever considered doing a rough video and get the visual in a coherent state then shoot it again shot by shot without extraneous camera movement and only then creating a script with the commentary. Then re record and edit the commentary to remove misstatements or repeating yourself anymore than necessary. I am sure that is similar to the process of editing an article for Fine Homebuilding. My point is to apply professional standards to demonstrating professional construction methods, i.e. good lighting, good clear sound, NO lens zooming and lock the camera down - even on a piece of 2 x 4 rather than handheld (which is a real skill that takes years of experience.) I do like the idea of an octagon building and remember a long ago article in FH about a small three story Octagon house built on a narrow lot in Boston. Wish I could find that article again as you have me dreaming again.
How many of these have you actually framed? Using that block at the top makes it very hard to frame, because you can't get in there to nail the rafters. The best way to build an octagon is to start from the CORNERS, and bring the first pair of hips opposite each other, and join them together, via the 2nd pair of hips at 90 degrees to the first pair. Then you fill in the remaining 4 hips. Forget about that block altogether. There's more reasons than I've mentioned to not use that block.
Exactly