for two decades i lobbied government and local councils to start a trade school for 15- 18 year old's who may not be suited to office life but are smarter then shelf stacking , get them started on the ladder some skills some discipline some of the basic science skills needed , giving them the chance to try different trades and find one that suits and give them the skills to get a job training with a pro , but that has constantly been dismissed as not required removing metal work and wood work from the syllabus some forty years ago ahs contributed to the skills shortage
I work in the construction industry. The numbers that Raynor parrots, and clearly doesn't (or cannot) understand, are quite impossible. The number of skilled workers is diminishing due to age, and no new skilled workers are being trained. And it takes years for a newly trained trades person to mature into a useful asset. To put a roof on a house you need a crane, cranes are expensive and take a while to get skilled on. You also need a HGV licence to drive one, and that takes time, and not everybody is suitable. Cranes have to be serviced, and built in the first place. The various industries needed to build houses are nowhere near the point where a sudden massive increase in housing can take place. As with pretty much everything our new and exciting, not to mention glorious, leaders are crowing on about, is ill conceived and unlikely to succeed. Its embarrassing, and probably deadly.
I have a class 1 HGV license and it isn't worth the plastic it's printed on why anyone drives lorries for the pathetic pay and conditions we have here I will never know.
@gravemind6536 I hear you, most people have no idea the kind of conditions we're forced, by circumstance, to work in. I worked for 2 years driving tankers filled with human waste, quite literally a shit job.
@@Iamfromthetimebefore with so many of the Eastern Europeans gone and the old school drivers about to hit retirement average working age is 55 they're fucked. Gonna be crying driver shortage again soon. Yet again the solution will be to import desperate people from abroad pay them wages almost paramount to slavery and once again leave the British people out of it because they won't pay fair wages for a fair days work.
Im in constuction 44 years most sites i work on are foreign workers i have no problem with that some are good grafters but i noticed past ten years older builders were retireing an not many young lads coming in the trade like there was in the 70 s and 80s so alot of our english trades wasnt replaced as older one left
It's also just part of British classism looking down on people. All the trades pay way more than most jobs you get a Uni degree with yet people in the trades are looked down upon as thick gammon not worth the time of day. Wages being driven down by cheap foreign labour also makes many jobs not viable for people long term. You've got HGV drivers hardly earning more on the hour than a shelf stacker in Tesco and soon the haulage industry will be crying out for drivers again the average age of the workforce is 55 no young people doing it.
@@amytaylorpodcast everyone gose on about toxic masuclinty in this sosity there is a total lack of masculinty also no one talks about toxic feminty and its just not women who have toxic feminyty when talking about toxic ppl in my life i have more in commen with women bevause these men were toxic in a femminin way
Well said! Our politicians have let us down for decades over housing. It is a massive scandal. It should never have been allowed to happen because shelter is a basic human need. It has been possible for most to gain easy shelter in this country at every point of human history until the 1980's when politicians forgot some basic points of morality and economics and increasingly overburdened the housing market (I won't spell it out) and made property so profitable that we now have foreign banks investing in UK property.
Another thought is 'Heat-pump boilers'. As of sometime in 2027 these things MUST be fitted to new-build homes. It seems that last year there were ten thousand of these things fitted. And in three years they want to fit one and a half million of them.. In your dreams ....
Problem with uk is it’s been run by people who have no idea what they are doing. Migrants are just plastering over the problem of a declining population. We’ve made housing too expensive, hence why so many need a top up. Even working full time, and a “working” wage, rent will absorb most of your wages. We’ve killed the nuclear family. The uk is a failed state.
Oh my this young lady is spot on !!! Brilliant comment …. Straight and to the point and well articulated facts better than some drivel some utubers put out !!! 👏👏👏👏 I’ve happened upon your video tonight and will look out for more common sense truth that all these Liebour politicians better beware … !!!!
I am worried about all the pollution this will cause on the system , rivers and seas polluted , water companies can't cope already , how is this going to help ,
I am seriously beginning to think that for the young people van life and farm life could come together and help each other while helping society as a whole . It’s an old idea but it used to work very very well .
Does my head in!! I live and work in Sussex, across the whole county and the amount of these people I see walking in and out of the hotels at all hours of the day it's ridiculous. They're doing nothing but spending our money!!!
@@jacobwhite1360 You can't quite believe that this is the world we are living in, can you! I have heard stories of illegal immigrants complaining that their hotel rooms are too hot, all the while pensioners can't afford to turn on their heating. I don't know how the system is failing the British people this much
@@amytaylorpodcast I'm Dutch, but the story is the same. They are housed in docked luxury cruise ships, can you believe it. Heating is always at a balmy 24 deg C, while my elderly parents can barely afford to set it to 18 deg C.
One point not discussed is the supply chain. Where are they going to get all the materials to build these houses. There is already problems getting materials without increasing the amount they want to build. Then you have transport issues on top. The government will not get anywhere near to the amount. Also building firms want to get the max profit so will limit supply.
There is no point in building more houses if landlords will just buy the properties and then rent them out. We have enough properties they need to be under ownership of the councils and remade to social housing.
Well thought out discussion, as you mentioned the crises is due to uncontrolled immigration since the Birth rate is falling. They usually import even more immigrants to do the house building so they will also need housing. It has been reported the Labour Govt intends for even more immigration as they are signing an open border and free movement agreement with the E.U. We will need to import more Doctors and Nurses to cover for this.
At least 30% of landlords have sold up and evicted their former tenants, so those extra homeless people are chasing a 30% smaller rental housing stock. That's a double whammy right there, but then consider the millions of new people arriving and you have a triple whammy. BTW, I'm 66 and going through a section 21.
Also another problem , young people’s heads are being filled with shit rules and regs not skills and good learning . I watched a guy 25 take his hgv and hiab course , he came out of it having learnt nothing , not even how to grease a machine . Tell me how that’s a recipe for the future?
Not sure why this came up on my recommended but thought i'd give it a go, thought it was spot on what you were saying about training people in trades being over looked/looked down on. I felt the video was a bit scattered though. Not criticism, just feedback. Also would be good if you put up some graphics, charts etc to back up things you say. good luck with your channel.
I am a plumber close to retirement we used to have career officers when I left school I remember the meeting what would you like to do . me I would like to be a journalist (couldn't spell) he just smiled and sent me to gas board to become apprentice plumber and he was right eventually ran my own business we can't all be academic some of us are practical people politicians are fools who do not live in the real world the celebrity bubble. ( Thank god for spell check)
Construction costs nowadays are an inherited problem from being in the EU, being beholden to their extreme amount of bureaucratic regulations restricting actual construction. We used to be able to do marvellous this, for example, Balcombe Viaduct. I believe (but don't quote me I may be wrong) it's the largest single structure of bricks in the world totalling 11 million bricks, this cost £38,500 in 1839 which is equivalent to roughly £4.5 million in today's money. For context, there is no recorded information to suggest there were deaths in building this so we cannot realistically understand the working conditions. However, the true horror comes when you realise the British government spent £1 billion revamping the London Bridge station between 2013 and 2018. Firstly, the viaduct was put up in 3 years and they had nothing to go off where the London Bridge upgrade was improving on an already established station and they took 5 years to do it. Not only this, but they spent over 20 times more than the construction of the Balcombe Viaduct relative to today's money.. 20 times!!! What we need to do is drastically change and revamp our construction laws and basically write off EVERYTHING the EU has made us beholden to the last 40 years, including auto manufacturing laws as well.
This is super interesting!! What a great comment and it really goes back to that quote of "The US innovates, China replicates and the EU regulates". We really need to do something about it because we have so many broken systems at the moment and clearly there is a lot more to the construction regulations that I didn't know about which are causing all sorts of financial and timescale impacts. Thanks again for this comment!
@@JeffreyGrant-u2r well, back in 1935 the London Brick Company alone produced 1.75 billion bricks. This was the peak of its production, Britain was once an industrial hub for materials like steel and bricks. We've done it before we can do it again.
@@amytaylorpodcast no worries, it's my pleasure! I'm local to the viaduct it's only a 25 minute walk away so I've grown up knowing the history. You're spot on about that saying! I thought leaving the EU would allow us more freedom but so far we've yet to make any real changes and our industries are still so stagnant.
@@jacobwhite1360 yes LBC was big in the 70s when I started but the bricks were rubbish and cheap not many company's would allow them the German an Spanish bricks are cheap crap
Don’t forget the excavator operators who are mostly 50/60 years old as well new houses arnt any good without foundations , service tracks and sewar systems
Ask anyone in the construction industry if this is possible - you will always get the sane answer. There is not the skilled workforce or resources to achieve it and you can't just import such a skilled workforce. The Government should look to bring empty housing back into use first but to do that, they will need a significant job creation programmes with stable employment in the former industrial heartlands to persuade people to stay or move to those areas. They simply do not have a credible plan.
Hi Amy i just found your channel so i subscribed i hope you increase your views.That Beer poster is so true,especially for me oh dear...Yes Amy-PLEASE never say that word "foundations" ever again!
1.5 million is easily achievable. The ginger growler is using her experience gained behind the bike sheds to teach two tiers male hotel army how to build their own houses. All ready before next summer.
Keir Starmer should swallow his pride and go and see Elon musk about his modula box homes if he and Angela Rayner want to achieve that target / that number of houses/homes. After the war in the same area Angela Rayner grew up in (Wythenshawe) they put up quick prefab houses - which are still there and lived in today (she will know that). Elon's modula homes are the quickest way to get these houses/ homes up - in my opinion.
There are no tradesmen to build these homes its like net zero its BS. I live in rural northern ireland and my dad a builder/farmer. We cannot get people to do build here so unless the govt nationalise a workforce to tackle 4m homes over 20 years. They wont even hit 1m never mind 1.5m homes.
14 years of Conservative will screw anything up, not 1 party is perfect at all and I see plenty of Labour/Starmer bashing which is fine but its not like they start with a blank page and a fresh budget and nobody can make choices that will please everybody. Clearly as well a massive north south divide especially with regards to wages and house prices. the £40,000 salary comment isn't great most NHS, Police, Fire service don't earn that let alone retail, hospitality people + Others. 100% agree on Migration needs putting into check. I'd also like to ask, who did you vote for? and has your view changed? The Government hasn't been in charge 6 months yet let alone a year more time is needed to really judge.
Conservatives are terrible, labor is worse. We need Guy Fawkes, and he needs to be successful this time. Complete reform of government, and I don’t mean Farage’s party either.
Also another problem , young people’s heads are being filled with shit rules and regs not skills and good learning . I watched a guy 25 take his hgv and hiab course , he came out of it having learnt nothing , not even how to grease a machine . Tell me how that’s a recipe for the future?
for two decades i lobbied government and local councils to start a trade school for 15- 18 year old's who may not be suited to office life but are smarter then shelf stacking , get them started on the ladder some skills some discipline some of the basic science skills needed , giving them the chance to try different trades and find one that suits and give them the skills to get a job training with a pro , but that has constantly been dismissed as not required removing metal work and wood work from the syllabus some forty years ago ahs contributed to the skills shortage
It's quite simple. There are TOO many people in the UK. i wonder why.
I work in the construction industry. The numbers that Raynor parrots, and clearly doesn't (or cannot) understand, are quite impossible.
The number of skilled workers is diminishing due to age, and no new skilled workers are being trained. And it takes years for a newly trained trades person to mature into a useful asset.
To put a roof on a house you need a crane, cranes are expensive and take a while to get skilled on. You also need a HGV licence to drive one, and that takes time, and not everybody is suitable. Cranes have to be serviced, and built in the first place.
The various industries needed to build houses are nowhere near the point where a sudden massive increase in housing can take place.
As with pretty much everything our new and exciting, not to mention glorious, leaders are crowing on about, is ill conceived and unlikely to succeed. Its embarrassing, and probably deadly.
I have a class 1 HGV license and it isn't worth the plastic it's printed on why anyone drives lorries for the pathetic pay and conditions we have here I will never know.
@gravemind6536 I hear you, most people have no idea the kind of conditions we're forced, by circumstance, to work in.
I worked for 2 years driving tankers filled with human waste, quite literally a shit job.
@@Iamfromthetimebefore with so many of the Eastern Europeans gone and the old school drivers about to hit retirement average working age is 55 they're fucked. Gonna be crying driver shortage again soon. Yet again the solution will be to import desperate people from abroad pay them wages almost paramount to slavery and once again leave the British people out of it because they won't pay fair wages for a fair days work.
Lewisham south London 635 flats £220 million and 3 years
"Net migration out of control" and " We can't build the houses due to a skills shortage". Britain's thinking summed up!
This is a sixth form, karaoke government
Im in constuction 44 years most sites i work on are foreign workers i have no problem with that some are good grafters but i noticed past ten years older builders were retireing an not many young lads coming in the trade like there was in the 70 s and 80s so alot of our english trades wasnt replaced as older one left
That's the plan! Then they'll use it as an excuse to keep the borders wide open.
agree, been a plumber since 1982 and not many apprentice lads on site
The construction labour shortage is what society gets for 40 years of misandry.
I don't disagree with that. We need to make sure we protect and empower our young boys and men!
It's also just part of British classism looking down on people. All the trades pay way more than most jobs you get a Uni degree with yet people in the trades are looked down upon as thick gammon not worth the time of day. Wages being driven down by cheap foreign labour also makes many jobs not viable for people long term. You've got HGV drivers hardly earning more on the hour than a shelf stacker in Tesco and soon the haulage industry will be crying out for drivers again the average age of the workforce is 55 no young people doing it.
I hope everything goes up in🔥 soon
@@amytaylorpodcast everyone gose on about toxic masuclinty in this sosity there is a total lack of masculinty also no one talks about toxic feminty and its just not women who have toxic feminyty when talking about toxic ppl in my life i have more in commen with women bevause these men were toxic in a femminin way
nah.. they Passport bros now
Well said! Our politicians have let us down for decades over housing. It is a massive scandal. It should never have been allowed to happen because shelter is a basic human need. It has been possible for most to gain easy shelter in this country at every point of human history until the 1980's when politicians forgot some basic points of morality and economics and increasingly overburdened the housing market (I won't spell it out) and made property so profitable that we now have foreign banks investing in UK property.
Another thought is 'Heat-pump boilers'. As of sometime in 2027 these things MUST be fitted to new-build homes. It seems that last year there were ten thousand of these things fitted.
And in three years they want to fit one and a half million of them.. In your dreams ....
We dont have a housing crisis !!!!!
The same people with shares in bricks & mortar
Also have shares in rubber dinghies.
Huh? Did you watch the video?
@@amytaylorpodcast Yep gave it a like too.
Problem with uk is it’s been run by people who have no idea what they are doing. Migrants are just plastering over the problem of a declining population.
We’ve made housing too expensive, hence why so many need a top up. Even working full time, and a “working” wage, rent will absorb most of your wages. We’ve killed the nuclear family. The uk is a failed state.
Oh my this young lady is spot on !!! Brilliant comment …. Straight and to the point and well articulated facts better than some drivel some utubers put out !!! 👏👏👏👏 I’ve happened upon your video tonight and will look out for more common sense truth that all these Liebour politicians better beware … !!!!
I am worried about all the pollution this will cause on the system , rivers and seas polluted , water companies can't cope already , how is this going to help ,
I am seriously beginning to think that for the young people van life and farm life could come together and help each other while helping society as a whole . It’s an old idea but it used to work very very well .
1. 5 million homes = 1 home built every 2 minutes 😂😂😂
You know it’s not the same guy who has to build them all right
Good thing the UK has many hotels that are empty..... eh.... never mind.
Does my head in!! I live and work in Sussex, across the whole county and the amount of these people I see walking in and out of the hotels at all hours of the day it's ridiculous. They're doing nothing but spending our money!!!
@@jacobwhite1360 You can't quite believe that this is the world we are living in, can you! I have heard stories of illegal immigrants complaining that their hotel rooms are too hot, all the while pensioners can't afford to turn on their heating. I don't know how the system is failing the British people this much
@@amytaylorpodcast I'm Dutch, but the story is the same. They are housed in docked luxury cruise ships, can you believe it.
Heating is always at a balmy 24 deg C, while my elderly parents can barely afford to set it to 18 deg C.
One point not discussed is the supply chain. Where are they going to get all the materials to build these houses. There is already problems getting materials without increasing the amount they want to build. Then you have transport issues on top. The government will not get anywhere near to the amount. Also building firms want to get the max profit so will limit supply.
Thank you Amy, quite clear how you put your heart and soul into bringing this to the audience, hope your channel grows and quickly :)
The I-word seems to be such a sensitive subject, but it needs to be seriously addressed
NFI people then..
You make some interesting points.
Thank you! I hope this video was informative! :)
There is no point in building more houses if landlords will just buy the properties and then rent them out. We have enough properties they need to be under ownership of the councils and remade to social housing.
Well thought out discussion, as you mentioned the crises is due to uncontrolled immigration since the Birth rate is falling. They usually import even more immigrants to do the house building so they will also need housing. It has been reported the Labour Govt intends for even more immigration as they are signing an open border and free movement agreement with the E.U. We will need to import more Doctors and Nurses to cover for this.
I wasn't expecting the truth....so thanks!
At least 30% of landlords have sold up and evicted their former tenants, so those extra homeless people are chasing a 30% smaller rental housing stock. That's a double whammy right there, but then consider the millions of new people arriving and you have a triple whammy. BTW, I'm 66 and going through a section 21.
Also another problem , young people’s heads are being filled with shit rules and regs not skills and good learning . I watched a guy 25 take his hgv and hiab course , he came out of it having learnt nothing , not even how to grease a machine . Tell me how that’s a recipe for the future?
Im in the construction industry over 40 years now getting out of it next year
Not sure why this came up on my recommended but thought i'd give it a go, thought it was spot on what you were saying about training people in trades being over looked/looked down on. I felt the video was a bit scattered though. Not criticism, just feedback. Also would be good if you put up some graphics, charts etc to back up things you say. good luck with your channel.
The builders don’t want to build them because they have to give 20% to social housing for his boat friends to live in
I am a plumber close to retirement we used to have career officers when I left school I remember the meeting what would you like to do . me I would like to be a journalist (couldn't spell) he just smiled and sent me to gas board to become apprentice plumber and he was right eventually ran my own business we can't all be academic some of us are practical people politicians are fools who do not live in the real world the celebrity bubble. ( Thank god for spell check)
Construction costs nowadays are an inherited problem from being in the EU, being beholden to their extreme amount of bureaucratic regulations restricting actual construction. We used to be able to do marvellous this, for example, Balcombe Viaduct.
I believe (but don't quote me I may be wrong) it's the largest single structure of bricks in the world totalling 11 million bricks, this cost £38,500 in 1839 which is equivalent to roughly £4.5 million in today's money. For context, there is no recorded information to suggest there were deaths in building this so we cannot realistically understand the working conditions. However, the true horror comes when you realise the British government spent £1 billion revamping the London Bridge station between 2013 and 2018. Firstly, the viaduct was put up in 3 years and they had nothing to go off where the London Bridge upgrade was improving on an already established station and they took 5 years to do it. Not only this, but they spent over 20 times more than the construction of the Balcombe Viaduct relative to today's money.. 20 times!!! What we need to do is drastically change and revamp our construction laws and basically write off EVERYTHING the EU has made us beholden to the last 40 years, including auto manufacturing laws as well.
This is super interesting!! What a great comment and it really goes back to that quote of "The US innovates, China replicates and the EU regulates". We really need to do something about it because we have so many broken systems at the moment and clearly there is a lot more to the construction regulations that I didn't know about which are causing all sorts of financial and timescale impacts. Thanks again for this comment!
Most bricks come from Germany and spain
@@JeffreyGrant-u2r well, back in 1935 the London Brick Company alone produced 1.75 billion bricks. This was the peak of its production, Britain was once an industrial hub for materials like steel and bricks. We've done it before we can do it again.
@@amytaylorpodcast no worries, it's my pleasure! I'm local to the viaduct it's only a 25 minute walk away so I've grown up knowing the history. You're spot on about that saying! I thought leaving the EU would allow us more freedom but so far we've yet to make any real changes and our industries are still so stagnant.
@@jacobwhite1360 yes LBC was big in the 70s when I started but the bricks were rubbish and cheap not many company's would allow them the German an Spanish bricks are cheap crap
Don’t forget the excavator operators who are mostly 50/60 years old as well new houses arnt any good without foundations , service tracks and sewar systems
where are they going to get all this land from to build these homes guess what farm land
think clever and you know what goverament is going to do
Even if many long-overdue concerns are completely solved, individuals will still complain
Ask anyone in the construction industry if this is possible - you will always get the sane answer. There is not the skilled workforce or resources to achieve it and you can't just import such a skilled workforce.
The Government should look to bring empty housing back into use first but to do that, they will need a significant job creation programmes with stable employment in the former industrial heartlands to persuade people to stay or move to those areas.
They simply do not have a credible plan.
Hi Amy i just found your channel so i subscribed i hope you increase your views.That Beer poster is so true,especially for me oh dear...Yes Amy-PLEASE never say that word "foundations" ever again!
This is the current skill level 😂
1.5 million is easily achievable. The ginger growler is using her experience gained behind the bike sheds to teach two tiers male hotel army how to build their own houses. All ready before next summer.
"lets dive right on into it"
What about it?
Keir Starmer should swallow his pride and go and see Elon musk about his modula box homes if he and Angela Rayner want to achieve that target / that number of houses/homes. After the war in the same area Angela Rayner grew up in (Wythenshawe) they put up quick prefab houses - which are still there and lived in today (she will know that). Elon's modula homes are the quickest way to get these houses/ homes up - in my opinion.
Make leather jackets great again
Make donkey jackets great again.
@ yes once in a lifetime opportunity
There are no tradesmen to build these homes its like net zero its BS.
I live in rural northern ireland and my dad a builder/farmer.
We cannot get people to do build here so unless the govt nationalise a workforce to tackle 4m homes over 20 years.
They wont even hit 1m never mind 1.5m homes.
UK is finished 🙅♂️
I’m living in one two years old so you tell me there’s is no housing
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14 years of Conservative will screw anything up, not 1 party is perfect at all and I see plenty of Labour/Starmer bashing which is fine but its not like they start with a blank page and a fresh budget and nobody can make choices that will please everybody.
Clearly as well a massive north south divide especially with regards to wages and house prices. the £40,000 salary comment isn't great most NHS, Police, Fire service don't earn that let alone retail, hospitality people + Others.
100% agree on Migration needs putting into check.
I'd also like to ask, who did you vote for? and has your view changed?
The Government hasn't been in charge 6 months yet let alone a year more time is needed to really judge.
Conservatives are terrible, labor is worse. We need Guy Fawkes, and he needs to be successful this time. Complete reform of government, and I don’t mean Farage’s party either.
LibLabCon are all the same! The enemy within.
@@MP-ti6lzGlad you think he isn't the answer either.
Also another problem , young people’s heads are being filled with shit rules and regs not skills and good learning . I watched a guy 25 take his hgv and hiab course , he came out of it having learnt nothing , not even how to grease a machine . Tell me how that’s a recipe for the future?