Eurovision 2023 Odds Update: All New Markets Analysis!

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024

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  • @Lukuzz
    @Lukuzz Год назад +16

    Obsessed with the way you say Kääríjä

    • @nian60
      @nian60 Год назад +2

      Tom is closer to the correct pronunciation than most RUclipsrs. Anyone who says Karia or Caridja is plain wrong. Käärijä is not a girl. 😄

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +4

      NGL, his name is so fun to say 😂

    • @someothername7886
      @someothername7886 Год назад +2

      It’s such a fun name to say! I can’t help but giggle every time I try to say it. 😅

    • @Lukuzz
      @Lukuzz Год назад

      @@nian60 I wasn’t saying he didn’t pronounce it right, just find it adorable

    • @Lukuzz
      @Lukuzz Год назад

      @@ESCTom I can tell!

  • @BerthaSchulz
    @BerthaSchulz Год назад +9

    Tom, I voted you up, you will not have the most downvoted Video again. Iam from germany but I am here for Finnland

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +2

      Thank you Berta 🥰

    • @BerthaSchulz
      @BerthaSchulz Год назад +1

      @@ESCTom I will follow you. Not in a stalking kind of way of course

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +2

      hahah thank you 😂

  • @sarahenchanted
    @sarahenchanted Год назад +7

    I'm glad there's a good chance the remaining (former) Yugoslav countries have a good chance of qualifying since they don't have North Macedonia, Montenegro, and Bosnia now and 2/3 of them have had trouble qualifying the past few years.

  • @anghara2001
    @anghara2001 Год назад +7

    yesterday at Madrid Party Blanca did another version with an extended break at the end, so now we're not sure wich one she will use in Liverpool. i'm so proud that Chanel last year and Blanca now are giving 200% of themselves in each party, each presentation has new wardrobe, a little change in the song, really, what a difference with past years.
    Also it seems Megara are ready to try again at Benidorm Fest next year, I'll be all for it, sending a rock song will be another twist of style from us.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +3

      thats kinda crazy that she can just do all these different versions. i love this leftfield strategy that Spain has developed in these 2 years. it's wild to think how bad they were as recently as 2021.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +4

      yep id also be very up for MEgara coming back, but will a stronger song. and it would be so different from Blanca and Chanel

  • @tanktheplayer4275
    @tanktheplayer4275 Год назад +14

    I saw France earlier this day first in the top 3 odds😂 Now it’s back to normal. The odds are very weird this year😂

    • @toky2590
      @toky2590 Год назад +3

      Yup , I also saw Romania as 11th in top 10 chance odds 💀

    • @e_la_cumbia_della_noia
      @e_la_cumbia_della_noia Год назад +4

      Yes, that's for sure. At one point POLAND was in TOP 3 duh... Dunno what's happening this year🙈

    • @tanktheplayer4275
      @tanktheplayer4275 Год назад +1

      @@toky2590 What?!!! Hahaha😅

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +7

      yea, I dont know if its errors when this happens or if someone is just placing a huge bet out of nowhere cos they got some insider information

    • @Monzeitia
      @Monzeitia Год назад

      @@ESCTom so interesting, imagine if this is true

  • @Lucian86
    @Lucian86 Год назад +7

    Best bets now imo:
    1. Finland to win (around 400% return on money)
    2. France to win Big 5 (around 450% return)
    3. Belgium and Portugal to qualify (around 60% return on both of them)

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +1

      yea those are all good picks

    • @luisfernandez4057
      @luisfernandez4057 Год назад

      France is not winning big 5 I think

    • @Lucian86
      @Lucian86 Год назад +1

      @@luisfernandez4057 not an actual prediction but this scenario it's underpriced imo. You get very good money if that happens so a risk worth to take (imho)

  • @BodyAndSol96
    @BodyAndSol96 Год назад +7

    Oh yeah Slovenia qualifying at 1.85 was definitely the bargain of the season, one had to be fast though because it went down in minutes after placing my bet! Now they're trading where they should be so around 1.2 - 1.3. Sorry I only speak in decimal odds, never used the fractional system and can't really understand it 😅 Great video anyway though! Edit. Finland winning semi 1 is still great value imo, available at 1.75 - 1.8. I really don't see anyone else taking it in a televote only system.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +2

      Oh wow yea 1.85 for Slovenia qualifying is awesome!
      Good call on Finland winning, that’s a good one too.
      I’ll use decimals for my next video cos it seems more people here use that

  • @tuommika
    @tuommika Год назад +6

    I get sometimes very confused because I have always used factor system in betting, where it tells number you multiple your bet if winning. So much easier!

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +3

      Yea that’s true. It’s difficult as we almost exclusively use fractions in uk and Ireland but I agree that The factor system is easier to visualise what you’d earn from the bet.
      I might put a poll up asking what people are used to as im comfortable speaking in either. Or I could put some graphics up showing what both equate to

    • @tuommika
      @tuommika Год назад +1

      @ESC Tom Exactly, factor system is easier to get if you are not used to betting. But I think more important is to understand the differences in odds when comparing partisipants in Eurovision. Some graphic could make betting more clear but I am not sure if it is that important

  • @annakobuk3618
    @annakobuk3618 Год назад +19

    Odds before rehearsals are almost meaningless.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +9

      its also a great time for a bargain tho. Anyone who guessed Moldova or Portugal top 10 last year at this time would have made a fortune.
      Theres a suprise sitting there right now worth a lot of money - its just very difficult to pick it 😅

    • @annakobuk3618
      @annakobuk3618 Год назад

      @@ESCTom Moldova usually has good staging though. Chances that something positive was brewing were high even though almost everyone in the ESC community and bookies had them pretty low in their tops.

    • @IFeelBetterInMySweater
      @IFeelBetterInMySweater Год назад

      ​​@@ESCTom Tip: Malta top 10. They are my personal favourite this year. Portugal was last year.
      By the way, odds don't. People do, when it's time for it. And most people ARE nice most of the time.😊

  • @adamtideman4953
    @adamtideman4953 Год назад +2

    At one point Croatia was the at the top of the odds for best Balkan entry. I should've taken a screenshot!

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад

      i have a feeling that once rehearsals are out, you might get another chance to take a screenshot 📸

  • @cherrycolouredshades
    @cherrycolouredshades Год назад +3

    i don't wanna encourage anybody to bet, it is a dangerous habit and can become a vice!! but the best bet i'm seeing right now is placing a big bet on spain to be the best of the big 5, it has 2/1 payoff. i mean it only makes sense if you place a big bet but it is a pretty sure outcome imo

    • @danieljessekaplan7034
      @danieljessekaplan7034 Год назад +2

      I agree that it’s very likely. But I do see a world where France outperforms them. If I’m betting anything on Spain I’m somehow more comfortable just saying that they’ll win it all since it’ll give me far better returns

    • @cherrycolouredshades
      @cherrycolouredshades Год назад

      @@danieljessekaplan7034 that’s a good point actually

  • @mjq3555
    @mjq3555 Год назад +2

    The surprise person that could beat both Finland and Sweden could be, as you've said, Ukraine, depending on their solidarity vote, so betting on Finland in the Nordic market rather than outright winner is potentially a good idea.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +1

      Yea i see what you mean. It’s giving protection against a Spain or Ukraine win.
      But then I also feel like if you think Ukraine might win, you can get 10-1 on them winning right now on betfair exchange, which is 5 times better

  • @cshields05
    @cshields05 Год назад +3

    I remember you mentioned doing a video on Ünser lid für Liverpool this year before. Just wondering if you’ve completely scrapped that idea?

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +1

      i actually have 2 videos im sitting on - a review of Unser and also the Serbian NAtional Final. I keep putting them off cos I feel like theyre too late to be released now 😭

    • @cshields05
      @cshields05 Год назад +1

      Never too late, would love to see those videos!

  • @markdowd1
    @markdowd1 Год назад +4

    We are normally on same wavelength, but that you're even considering Malta top 10???? I'd be amazed if it limps into the final...but it will beat Ireland!!

    • @nian60
      @nian60 Год назад

      It's because Malta came first in a casual voters' poll on Lukeovision (beating Sweden, Finland and everyone). Malta has serious casual voter appeal.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +2

      lol im not really considering them, i was saying if i had to pick someone from the bottom list, thats who id choose. they werent many other good options 😅
      and yes, i did also note they won Luke's public poll 😊

  • @mhdkrtsh4369
    @mhdkrtsh4369 Год назад +14

    Odds are shit, at this moment.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +2

      Yea at this part of the season, It feels like you need to grab the good odds when they are released because after a couple hours/days everything decent will be gone . I don’t think we’ll see motion again until the rehearsals

  • @eurovision_investor
    @eurovision_investor Год назад +2

    La Zarra will slay 👑

  • @kristinab9103
    @kristinab9103 Год назад

    My £20 is split for France for winner and top3. I might be wrong, but I can see split screen between Sweden and France this year. Another dark element for me is Israel.

  • @willmoreno9543
    @willmoreno9543 Год назад

    Well, hello, Tom! 😏

  • @Werderina
    @Werderina Год назад +4

    France has really grown on me! Strangely I know nobody who is really excited about Sweden but everyone is expecting Loreen to win. 😂 Germany… no comment 😊

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +2

      i remembered them this time though, 😅🇩🇪

    • @Werderina
      @Werderina Год назад

      @@ESCTom You did! ❤

  • @NEvita198
    @NEvita198 Год назад +1

    Hello Tom, do you think that those who bet on individual countries also take into account the diaspora, based on which a country could even qualify for the final, for example? Sorry if it's a bit of a silly question. Thank you for the replay.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад

      yea i think its an important thing to consider for qualfying for the final definitely. for example, We've seen in the past that former yugoslav countries have benefited a lot from their close cultural connections, although this year that is diminished with 2 of them withdrawing and Bosnia still out of the competition.
      I think it has little to no effect on the winner odds though

    • @NEvita198
      @NEvita198 Год назад +1

      ​@@ESCTomHow do you think this will then affect Slovenia? Although they have a good song, their diaspora in semi2 is very weak, could the inclusion of Spain, Ukraine, UK still shuffle the cards? (If I'm not mistaken, the rest of the world also votes in the semifinals, right?)

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +1

      honestly i think the song is strong enough that itll go through. but yea theyve got albania, althought that wasnt former Yugoslav. the UK will like this type of music too i think.
      Yes ROW is voting in both semis

  • @nian60
    @nian60 Год назад +1

    My comments are disappearing again. 😐 Second try: Greece did a gig in a small café the other day. He was clearly nervous. If he is nervous performing in a small café, how will he handle a big stage? I wouldn't put money on him. That nervousness will come through even more on a big stage. I had him as a qualifier but if he performs like in that tiny venue, he's an NQ.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +2

      yea i actually saw your original comment earlier but hadnt replied to it yet, so i dont know why youtube deleted it. Another commenter here, John, had this issue last year where literally 90% of his comments were getting deleted. I ended up contacting RUclips support about it but they were useless. Unfortunately comments are super low priority for youtube, theyve even talked about removing them as a feature. So they can be quite buggy. My advice is copy a long comment before you post it and don't put a link in. Other than that, John and I couldnt find the pattern in the actual message sent so we put it down to a phone connection or cache problem.
      anyway in regards to Greece, yea thats not good news for him. honestly i think 16 is too young. its fine if it all goes well, but if it doesnt work, that's a messed up thing for a 16 year old to process when theyre still developing. i hope he can perform well but i think its normal for someone so inexperienced to be so nervous

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +1

      btw his posting problem has gone now, he hasnt had it once this year yet

    • @nian60
      @nian60 Год назад

      @@ESCTom Yeah, copying a comment is definitely the way to go. They can randomly disappear. RUclips support is usually useless. Yes for Victor I think 16 is too young. You really need to be an experienced performer for the Eurovision stage. Victor looked like he had never performed in front of any crowds before.

    • @nian60
      @nian60 Год назад

      @@ESCTom OK good, maybe there are weird comment-removing bugs going around and he got rid of his.

  • @danieljessekaplan7034
    @danieljessekaplan7034 Год назад +1

    I kind of think Iceland in the semi final odds is a big steal. I can’t see someone with that kind of vocal ability and stage presence not qualifying in a semi that’s this weak. Really want to bet on Latvia to qualify but I’m always so conservative with my money and I’m terrified how a televote will react to them. One thing I’m really shocked about is the qualifying chance that’s being given to Switzerland- to me that song is a qualifier in a normal year but I don’t think there’s any chance it qualifies in a televote only semi. Just seems like such the typical song that would have been pushed through by a jury

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад

      yea i see what you mean about SWI. but ballads do make it through and theyre on a 3 QF streak and hes got an incredible live voice.

  • @eyalgielgunkatz6983
    @eyalgielgunkatz6983 Год назад

    Estonia is one of my favorites, but unfortunately I don’t think they are going to qualify. First, it’s a ballad which I don’t know if the audience will vote to. Second, they are 4th in the running order, which is a very bad place☹️

    • @nian60
      @nian60 Год назад

      I think Estonia will qualify. Semi 2 is the weaker semi so it will be easier to qualify from it. There are very few ballads this year which means that people who like ballads will have fewer songs to choose from = they will vote for Estonia.

    • @eyalgielgunkatz6983
      @eyalgielgunkatz6983 Год назад

      @@nian60 I agree with you, but I have multiple thoughts at the same time, so I don’t know what to think anymore😅. It’s really hard to predict who will qualify from the second semi-final. There are about 8 songs that are on the edge of qualification in this semi, so I really want to see what’s going to happen

  • @johnny11415
    @johnny11415 Год назад

    I dont get why Ucraine is so high seeing the general vibe on RUclips it doesn't seem to be such a popular song, unless the bookmakers are confident that there will be a big'sympathy vote' but I think this year it won't be so big.

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +1

      yes thats basically it. i think the majority of that money was placed at the start of the season too

  • @nice2meetyou631
    @nice2meetyou631 Год назад +1

    Iceland to qualify 7/4 💰
    You're welcome

    • @ESCTom
      @ESCTom  Год назад +1

      yea thats a decent return or a QF

  • @cathalsheehan9596
    @cathalsheehan9596 Год назад

    I'd be absolutely throwing ht kitchen sink at the Austria for top 3 tbh.

  • @nikitaaverin
    @nikitaaverin Год назад

    I wasn't quite convinced about France. Until my BF and one of his closest friends were raving about her (for the record, they are both German, but different demographics). So I kinda had to re-evaluate my prediction that Sweden would win with a land slide. I think it will be a tight race. Sweden, Norway, France, UK and - surprisingly - Austria are currently the ones I predict to land in the top 5.

  • @marcelobadilla5825
    @marcelobadilla5825 Год назад

    Its a number of performance ie Israel.. Uk... no idea how will be. So they can be a surprise or a fail

  • @lgswed166
    @lgswed166 Год назад +3

    Loreen Tattoo Sweden is the best song this year

    • @nian60
      @nian60 Год назад +12

      Good, keep parroting that and no one will vote for her. 😄

    • @adamtideman4953
      @adamtideman4953 Год назад +2

      @@nian60 Oh, is that how it works? Finland, Spain, Norway, Ukraine, Austria, Israel, Czechia, UK and France are the best songs this year. 😉

    • @nian60
      @nian60 Год назад

      @@adamtideman4953 No, you have to sound stupid when you say it. Otherwise it doesn't turn people off.