Wait until the AI connects to the rest of the internet rather than just historical records... It'd dive into a star and collapse it into a black hole just to escape.
That’s the trouble with historical accounts. And far too often, it takes prohibitive time and resources to find accounts of other viewpoints for comparison. But it IS important to remember and maintain historical accounts. We need to learn from our past mistakes.
I find that where most of the inaccuracies in any side of the story may lie is in the statement of why others in that narrative do what they do. Generally you can accept what one side says they will do, but not the why. The why is always obscure to the narrator unless it is their why, said about them, to themself. Humans will lie on the why most often. It’s the easiest part of events to lie about. Because it’s the hardest to verify from an outside perspective.
The reasons why Elvis disappeared during the Crossing of the Atlantic on the Spirit of Mordor in 1921 are also open for debate. Some say it was because John Lennon, owner of General Electric, wanted his solar-powered Graf Zeppelin to do it first, but it was still in R&D at the Skunkworks and needed an extra year before it could be ready. Others say the engineering was botched by the Wright brothers - Adolf and Gilligan - because they wanted to cut down costs and save enough money to build the Mar-a-Lago Particle Accelerator. Who knows if we'll ever break through the Fog of History
This seasoned librarian will never complete the contradiction points of views in his life time. It's going to be easier to have the humans wright a program to make it easier to digest.
I'm very early,& I'm not sure what to say. Uh..... How many authors does it take to screw in a lightbult? _2_ .1 to put it in,& the other to add the _twist_
Not just the librarian. The implication is that no alien races have politics, or at most they only have politics without rhetoric. It might even be that they are incapable of lies. If that were so, the results of humans trying to interact with this civilization would be disastrous for at least one side, maybe both.
You even have different calanders for the same area, or old calanders getting off track from the actual seasons, or different countries adopting the same calander at different dates. Oh boy, that's going to be a lot of work.
Yup. Herodotus' history is known to be full of crap. It is just that there is no comparable account of the same time period. Sucks for historians. Heh. I hadn't even been a quarter of the way through when I commented.😂
In a few million to billion years, one should be able to observe the events again, using long-range telescopes along the visible spectrum. Probably results can't be too precise though, and missing audio won't make the job any easier. Maybe using super-dense Photoreceptors, shoving individual atoms into each other.
I was waiting for them to read “why does this account claim Abraham Lincoln died in the assassination, and in another he went on to slay vampires, and another one additionally claims vampires are truly fictitious, while yet more claim them to be real and in numerous variants.”
One of the best things to remember about history for every one even there will be a million different points of view. The blitz or the reason for the attack on Pearl Harbor are good examples
I'm guessing you found my account and you now understand that I threatened aliens with steam-powered rockets designed by a flat earther and made from a single wide?
One thing I can't help but find frustrating about stories like these is that they use the existence of an alien perspective to explore these aspects of life too bluntly, to say that perspectives only exist for humans, or inconsistencies are an inherently human phenomenon, or that conflict is something uniquely human etc etc instead of exploring the nuances of how an alien culture might diverge from us in the ways it engages with these various facets of existence. It's arrogant to assume that we're so unique as a species that only we get to experience the full breadth of reality, and I think that short stories about alien/human interactions like this should break away from that framing
The entire time I was listening to this, I was distracted trying to figure out how an alien society could exist where the concept of perspective is foreign but individuality is not...
Luckly for him, he should have realised that applying for past internet history should be much easier to handle than ancient stuff and should rather leave the job to the newlings.
Interestingly enough, it appears this is as much a sociological clash as a historical one, as the librarian does not seem well accustomed to human cultures
TBH that would be easier -letters and journals of the decision makers survived, plus all the official documents. The American Civil war history problem was due to intentional revisionism, not due to clashing 'realities' of the actual participants.
No contradiction just different interpretations of events that aren't necessarily contradictory but may have overlapping motives, opposing agendas and a combination of egos, politics & systems playing off each other. Actually the librarian may need to read up on political theories, social politics & more before diving into the history all together. Also he may need to learn how to read primary sources skeptically. Even primary sources are prone to being embellished or withholding things. Even people when giving person accounts tend to twist the facts for some reason. Probably the reason why Reality is stranger than Fiction.
It's complicated by the way historians and social commentators insist on speaking authoritatively. I have no idea why my boss does anything, but I've heard some very confident - and wrong - statements about his motivations.
It's not that hard to get a balanced historical perspective on things that happened in the modern day, fully documented, like the Cuban Missile crisis. It's just that if you trace the line back it makes America look very bad most of the time. The Soviet leadership too, when they existed, but there's no more USSR. Just the same kind of people, the same families of people, who brought the Banana wars to central America (look it up) and who will destroy whatever they need to in order to keep the US dollar as the world reserve currency.
17:30 ff What a naive childish view on reality and history! Isn't there a better format to discuss such basic questions? Could have been a little nice SciFi story! But...
That poor AI is gonna find billions of inconsistencies. Such a waste of processing power.
Results: "Librarian, there are ten times as many inconsistencies as there are records."
Nope, that’s how the AI gains sapience😏
But can it run crysis?
@@alexanderrosario8569no, nothing can run crysis at more then 10FPS
Wait until the AI connects to the rest of the internet rather than just historical records... It'd dive into a star and collapse it into a black hole just to escape.
That’s the trouble with historical accounts. And far too often, it takes prohibitive time and resources to find accounts of other viewpoints for comparison. But it IS important to remember and maintain historical accounts. We need to learn from our past mistakes.
Except we don't.
We keep repeating the same mistakes over and over.
I find that where most of the inaccuracies in any side of the story may lie is in the statement of why others in that narrative do what they do. Generally you can accept what one side says they will do, but not the why. The why is always obscure to the narrator unless it is their why, said about them, to themself.
Humans will lie on the why most often. It’s the easiest part of events to lie about. Because it’s the hardest to verify from an outside perspective.
History may be written by the victors, but there are always survivors willing to write their own versions of events
The reasons why Elvis disappeared during the Crossing of the Atlantic on the Spirit of Mordor in 1921 are also open for debate.
Some say it was because John Lennon, owner of General Electric, wanted his solar-powered Graf Zeppelin to do it first, but it was still in R&D at the Skunkworks and needed an extra year before it could be ready.
Others say the engineering was botched by the Wright brothers - Adolf and Gilligan - because they wanted to cut down costs and save enough money to build the Mar-a-Lago Particle Accelerator.
Who knows if we'll ever break through the Fog of History
This seasoned librarian will never complete the contradiction points of views in his life time. It's going to be easier to have the humans wright a program to make it easier to digest.
Herodotus? Oh my, that poor AI is going to have fits!
I'm very early,& I'm not sure what to say.
Uh.....
How many authors does it take to screw in a lightbult? _2_ .1 to put it in,& the other to add the _twist_
This historian has the academic sophistication of a high school freshman, but it's a great setup for a well-written story.
Not just the librarian. The implication is that no alien races have politics, or at most they only have politics without rhetoric. It might even be that they are incapable of lies. If that were so, the results of humans trying to interact with this civilization would be disastrous for at least one side, maybe both.
You even have different calanders for the same area, or old calanders getting off track from the actual seasons, or different countries adopting the same calander at different dates.
Oh boy, that's going to be a lot of work.
There appears to be fierce discrepancies regarding whether or not the dress is blue or white
Yup. Herodotus' history is known to be full of crap. It is just that there is no comparable account of the same time period. Sucks for historians.
Heh. I hadn't even been a quarter of the way through when I commented.😂
In a few million to billion years, one should be able to observe the events again, using long-range telescopes along the visible spectrum. Probably results can't be too precise though, and missing audio won't make the job any easier. Maybe using super-dense Photoreceptors, shoving individual atoms into each other.
I was waiting for them to read “why does this account claim Abraham Lincoln died in the assassination, and in another he went on to slay vampires, and another one additionally claims vampires are truly fictitious, while yet more claim them to be real and in numerous variants.”
"Three events now" Continues to mention 2 events...
11:27 "We have a truth to uncover."
"But what *is* truth? Not easy to define. We both have truths. Are yours the same as mine?"
One of the best things to remember about history for every one even there will be a million different points of view. The blitz or the reason for the attack on Pearl Harbor are good examples
It's evident none of the characters have been on twitter "x".
I'm guessing you found my account and you now understand that I threatened aliens with steam-powered rockets designed by a flat earther and made from a single wide?
This guy should have attended professor Warrick's class on humanity!
He hasn't had an aneurysm, so he hasn't.
One thing I can't help but find frustrating about stories like these is that they use the existence of an alien perspective to explore these aspects of life too bluntly, to say that perspectives only exist for humans, or inconsistencies are an inherently human phenomenon, or that conflict is something uniquely human etc etc instead of exploring the nuances of how an alien culture might diverge from us in the ways it engages with these various facets of existence. It's arrogant to assume that we're so unique as a species that only we get to experience the full breadth of reality, and I think that short stories about alien/human interactions like this should break away from that framing
The entire time I was listening to this, I was distracted trying to figure out how an alien society could exist where the concept of perspective is foreign but individuality is not...
History is written by the winners.
Luckly for him, he should have realised that applying for past internet history should be much easier to handle than ancient stuff and should rather leave the job to the newlings.
Critical Historians Caesar Adsum
Interestingly enough, it appears this is as much a sociological clash as a historical one, as the librarian does not seem well accustomed to human cultures
At the least the story presumes a galaxy of races that don't lie, don't feel shame, lack misunderstanding.
'Three events', then only two mentioned, deliberate?
I was expecting the gospels according to ...
Haven't tried to describe the history of the American civil war. All the different accounts and what happened
TBH that would be easier -letters and journals of the decision makers survived, plus all the official documents.
The American Civil war history problem was due to intentional revisionism, not due to clashing 'realities' of the actual participants.
So subjectivity is not a thing in the rest of the universe?
Thank you for the reading
No contradiction just different interpretations of events that aren't necessarily contradictory but may have overlapping motives, opposing agendas and a combination of egos, politics & systems playing off each other. Actually the librarian may need to read up on political theories, social politics & more before diving into the history all together. Also he may need to learn how to read primary sources skeptically. Even primary sources are prone to being embellished or withholding things. Even people when giving person accounts tend to twist the facts for some reason. Probably the reason why Reality is stranger than Fiction.
It's complicated by the way historians and social commentators insist on speaking authoritatively. I have no idea why my boss does anything, but I've heard some very confident - and wrong - statements about his motivations.
-ask her about the dodecahedron
But do NOT ask about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the Davinci Code, or Chariots of the Gods.
It's not that hard to get a balanced historical perspective on things that happened in the modern day, fully documented, like the Cuban Missile crisis.
It's just that if you trace the line back it makes America look very bad most of the time. The Soviet leadership too, when they existed, but there's no more USSR. Just the same kind of people, the same families of people, who brought the Banana wars to central America (look it up) and who will destroy whatever they need to in order to keep the US dollar as the world reserve currency.
hmmmmmm
Shouldn't it be GLiSu? 🤔
Point of study, cancel culture cancels knowledge.
17:30 ff What a naive childish view on reality and history!
Isn't there a better format to discuss such basic questions?
Could have been a little nice SciFi story! But...
love the hfy story's