Less than half the price of Rimowa! Is MVST any good?
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0:00 Are you Looking for an Aluminum Luggage?
0:30 Rimowa Users
2:10 Other Popular Luggage
2:36 MVST Select Review
3:00 Features
3:39 Comparison to Rimowa
5:42 Is it Better than Rimowa?
6:03 Conclusion
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Rimowa GmbH (German pronunciation: [ʁɪˈmoːva]), often stylized as RIMOWA, is a high-quality luggage manufacturer. The company was founded in 1898, in Cologne, Germany.
RIMOWA suitcases are widely known for their parallel aluminium grooves, which have become characteristic of the brand.[1] The company's headquarters and production have been located in Cologne for 120 years.
In October 2016, RIMOWA joined LVMH,[2] becoming the group's first German company.[3] From 2017 to 2021, the company was managed by Alexandre Arnault.[4] Hugues Bonnet-Masimbert took over as CEO in 2021.[5]
Just purchased my MVST and the first trip out the hinges broke. Lucky it was still locked. I am going to try luggex. I am glad you had a better experience. Safe travels!!
Samsonite (also made in Germany like Rimowa) makes great luggage and is an underdog who always outperforms and worth the money (about 70% less expensive than Rimowa and Tumi).
I decided to try a MVST suitcase and have had a poor experience, unfortunately. The suitcase got badly damaged in first check-in (with a “fragile” sticker on it!). It’s not just dents - the suitcase now wobbles and wheels don’t move properly. MVST says they won’t refund it even though it’s clearly a major quality issue, and they can’t replace it for 2 months, so I don’t have a usable suitcase and I’m down ~$500. I would advise caution people to stay away.
Same experience. One flight and my black one is severely damaged-dented, scratched, color missing. They refuse to replace it or refund it. I had it less than a week when I contacted them. Horrible quality and so much money wasted (I have the large one). When I commented on Instagram in an attempt to get a response from CS, they hid the comment. The quality is a joke. Such a shame because their luggage is gorgeous but USELESS.
@@devinkielle Unfortunately, all aluminum luggage is prone to dents and scratches. That's just the nature of the material.
All the aluminum luggage manufacturers play down this aspect of their products.
Consumers often find out the hard way that luggage warranties do not cover cosmetic issues such as
dents and scratches that were the result of baggage handling.
You used the words "severely damaged" Does that mean the luggage is no longer functional ?
Thank you for this
🤔 That's weird since they have a Limited Lifetime Warranty to original owner, just like AWAY
Rimowa is inspired by Adolf Hitler’s personal plane, the Junkers Ju-52
Great review! I was about to buy the Level 8 Aluminum until I saw this review and you convinced me. Just bought the TREK Carry-On and Medium in Army Green. Can't wait to get them! Thanks
You're welcome. Do you have a trip coming up?
😀
Yeah, just a bunch of domestic flights this year. Tahiti next year
The majority of luggage at this price point (and even lower) will tend to survive the first few trips without incident. But no matter the price range, if luggage isn't well engineered, or uses inferior parts, all bets are off when it comes to longevity.
For example, Rimowa wheels have bearings, and will roll smoothly and last longer than MVST, who use cheaper wheels to keep costs down. Rimowa owners can also purchase replacement wheels from the company, if there is ever a wheel related problem post-warranty. In contrast, some other companies have wheels that can't be replaced -either by design or availability. In fairness to MVST, their 5 year warranty includes wheel replacement.
Other key components, such as latches are another area where quality can vary greatly between Rimowa and the cheaper copy-cat companies. Again, it's a matter of quality taking a back seat to cost savings for the manufacturer.
The true measure of good luggage is in its longevity. All luggage will take a battering during repeated travel. Even Rimowa. Whether handled by bitter rampies or processed via demolition derby inspired conveyor belts, no luggage escapes the wrath of the baggage handling process.
While this review by Family Day Off certainly provides a lot of useful information, it would be interesting and very useful to provide an update after a year or 2 of use, and see how the MVST cases have fared.
Interesting. How do you know that MVST has cheaper wheels?
it's not always that way. unless you have the specific component of their price. RIMOWA might be more expensive not necessarily using more quality materials. might be that their ads and sponsorships mark up the cost or simple their mark up on the items price due to branding..
Amazing content. Insightful, thoughtful and simultaneously hilarious. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I’m gonna get one of these!!! Leaning green also.
Thank you! Would you like to see a follow up review after going around the world?
Great video. Just what I needed. Answered all of my questions.
Great to hear! 🔥❤️
It's a good option but aluminum in general weighs more than you would think over the plastics and it's not as forgiving for stuffing your luggage. With that said, I made the switch to MVST and don't regret it. I feel my belongings are better protected and their stuff is a quality build. Nice video.
Great review!!
My MVST 22” is smaller than my Monos 22” and larger than my Samsonite 20”. So it’s really a 21”. For me when I travel with only one bag that size differential matters. The wheels as you mentioned are inferior to the Monos and Samsonite. They just don’t roll as smoothly. I’ve tested them in airport concourses side by side. I recommend looking at other “true” 22” carry on aluminum cases. There are plenty in this price range.
Thanks for your comment. You’re right. They do offer a plus size one for a little more money. We’ll be reviewing more cases soon. Please subscribe!
Ooooo I was looking at this! Thoroughly enjoyed this video
thank you so much for watching! glad you enjoyed it! Subscribe if you want more videos like these! hehe
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If I paid a premium price for luggage I could never let airline staff abuse it, thus it would have to be carry on. Check bags might as well be trash, because they will treated as such by the guys loading bags.
I’m a Ramp Agent for American Airlines while waiting to get a date to head to flight school, and some guys do toss around the luggage pretty harshly. I’m very interested in personal items involving travel, and luggage happens to be the main item. I will admit that I do not treat the cheaper luggage as nicely as i do the higher end luggage. I know the prices of these and what brands they are. When I see a RIMOWA (Very, very, very rarely. I’ve seen maybe 5 the entire time I’ve been here) or really any Aluminum luggage, Louis Vuitton luggage (I genuinely believe they’re fake, I do not believe anyone is stupid enough to put a $5-10k check bag in the cargo hold willingly) and always treat it very well, I’ve had this conversation with other employees and they say they also do it. So some guys will chunk your $2000 RIMOWA check bag like it’s a stuffed animal and some will take care of it, I try to take care of it. My advice is DO NOT get a expensive piece of luggage unless you’re going to have it as a carry on, unless you make so much money that you don’t care about replacing it every 5-7 trips, which could be a whole round trip with connection.
@@cody7068 Thanks for the recommendation. 👍
@@cody7068thank you so much your comment!! I was so set on getting an aluminium luggage set even if it cost me a pretty penny. Totally makes sense to not spend a fortune on something for it to only get bruised and dented in a few uses. This is why I love the comments section.
I bought 2 carry-on (champagne & army green) after this review! Thanks!!
Hope you like em!
I trust your honesty!
You bought it, wasn’t a freebie.
“Real deal, Holyfield”
I haven’t heard that one since when I had two good ears.
lol you’re aging your self. Iron Mike or Real Deal?
just thought about getting a rimova to protect my stuff from being stolen but then realized a 1000$ suitcase gonna get stolen whole bruh 😢
You're definitely right. There's some bad people out there!
Excelente Video. A really good product we need count that a carbon suitcase is easyier to keep our baggage unter 10 kg. 👌
Showing celebrities with a product should not convince anyone. The thought mentality is that if the rich are buying x product, it _must be worth the price_ . However, companies understand this social perception, which is why Companyies _give free products to the rich_ .
Totally agree. I love mine too.
This is my sign 😍 looking to get the army green for my trip back to Pinas as well 🥳
Oi kababayan! It’s a good case. We like it a lot. Enjoy sa Pinas! 🇵🇭
@@familydayoff thank you! I was looking on aluminum cases for a while now. I really like to get rimowa but I cant find the reason to justify it. Lol.
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All my suitcases are now hard-side clam-shell rollers. Anyone serious about traveling uses these. There is no compromise. Zippered suitcases are out.
calm down.
Awesome! We agree. What suitcases do you have now?
LOL! Do you agree?
@@aguafria9565 うるせーテメ
@@familydayoff I got a Rimowa Hybrid Cabin, Innovation Aluminum carry-on and some off-brand check-in size I bought in Japan. Actually bought all of them in Japan. 👺👍
awesome, great color too!
actually Rimowa is french-driven it is part of Louis Vuitton LVMH group ..
RIMOWA IS TOP OF THE LINE, but heavy. The plastic versions of Rimova are better if you don't want to pay the extra luggage fees when it weighs too much. TUMI is almost as good or equal to Rimowa. Samsonite is also made in GERMANY like Rimowa but people in the United States don't know about it much. Samsonite is very well made and I would go with Samsonite any day if my TUMI or RIMOWA is not available or I need extra luggage.
Its like saying $100 handbag vs $3000 handbag having the same function. Its a neverending agree and disagree discussion… 😅
Yes. You pay for the status. We could care less about that. We’re born with status!
Went with the Tumi. It looks like Tumi is the only one that makes an aluminum suitcase that is expandable.
Thank you so much for the review on this suitcase. I am looking to get the medium-sized one, It looks like the large one doesn't hold much more than a medium. I am heading to the Philippines at the end of September. I'm not sure if you acquired the large one. Any feedback that you could provide on either medium or larger size would be greatly appreciated 🤙
Thanks for the feedback. The Large one does hold a lot more than the medium. Where in the Philippines will you be going?
@@familydayoff Did you have any issues on the large for measurements I found it to be 61.8 Linear inches did the airline give you any issues? I have read that some Airlines consider it oversized? I will be traveling to Cebu, Mindanao, Subic bay amigo long time waiting have not been there since 2019.
The large did not give us any problems while flying. We hope you'll have a great time in the Philippines. They are really celebrating being out of lock-down. Are you from the Philippines originally?@@NikkosExperience
I'm looking at possibly getting these for my upcoming return trip to the Philippines. Any updates as far as how they are holding up? I believe you mentioned the locks broke, was the issue resolved to your satisfaction?
We’re still trying to get a hold of them. They haven’t responded yet. We’ll be making a follow up video soon.
There's also Xiaomi which makes a clone.
Personally I avoid aluminum cases as they scratch up and attract too much attention.
@@QuickQuips Understandably, but we think the scratches look cool. What did you think of the video?
after traveling to Europe twice in 1 calendar year.. we need to invest in good travel luggage. this is helpful.
Glad to be of help. We have a 10% discount with MVST Select just use our code FAMILYDAYOFF on checkout. Have a great day!
@@familydayoff 🙏 we are subscribed.
He found it for "about a fraction of the price." The word "about" usually goes with a specific number or it's not really needed
If you don't mind, some specifics please re " the locks broke..." Was this on the Trek or the Space? The carry on or check in? And you say locks as in plural - on the same case or two different ones? Also, likewise you mentioned a problem with wheels? These are important and was almost going to pull the trigger on either the Space or Trek... and by far my #1 priority is durability. I often fly with audio gear (fragile / $$) for work and always carry on a minimal kit to get the job done just in case something happens with the larger check in. And occasionally I must gate check my carry-on so the idea of extra protection is comforing. Plus with aluminum as least I can quickly tell if the bag took a hit or was squashed. Thank you for your time -
Thanks for watching. This is the trek series. Two locks on two different cases stopped functioning as smoothly as supposed to. We had to bend them back in place for it to close again. Also one of the locks that did that doesn't open so easily. It's requiring a little finagling in order for it to open.
The case in itself is built like a tank. I am in touch with them now to get them sent back to replace the locks that broke. The locks on the space seem a little bit more durable since it's a smaller moving part. Although the space is much more limited inside. Hope that helps
Really bad quality bags that break during the first packing, and then they refuse a return & refund because you don't have the box it came in, even though you're within the 30 day return window.
Please explain more about your experience. They’ve been good to us so far.
@Family Day Off one of the internal zippers broke the very first time I was packing my bag. Immediate red flag as I travel for work almost weekly and need something that is reliable and quality made. I contacted the company right away and wanted to get a refund, they kept arguing saying that they could replace the bag, but not issue a refund. I explained that I've never even used the bag, and that I'm within the 30 day return window. Finally they sent me instructions for a return process, but in the instructions it says that you have to have the original box, which I had already disposed of. I told them that and they said that I'm not eligible for a refund if I don't have the box.
I ended up going through with a formal return request, and I was granted a return shipping label. I sent it back to them in another box I had and it's been about a week since they received it back and haven't gotten a refund yet. When I tried to ask them about it I only got an automatic email back discussing the status of the initial shipment to me.
There's no phone number to call, only a chat. And the email gives you automatic replies almost every time, and never anyone to answer your questions. The customer support is abysmal, and they are doing everything they can to keep your money. It's a crappy company with low-quality bags.
This person has commented the same comment on almost every video that comes up about MVST suitcases...kinda suspicious
@Zo Ki because they wouldn't help me and I wanted to spread the word about them as a company
I ordered a luggage set from MVST for a trip coming up soon and they didn’t even notify me that my shipment would be delayed. I had to look on their website for the update.
Unbelievable
Bought one for every member of my family, 4 in all. 2 of the 4 have a problem with the telescoping handle...the handle does NOT stay in place, collapses with any modest pressure. So 50% product failure is NOT good. This is a major impact in functionality since you use the telescoping handle when rolling throughout the airport. So take your chances with MVST. Maybe it will work or NOT. Big time disappointed.
While it's very expensive, the rimowa's lifetime guarantee is hard to beat
Thanks for the video! Yes, I am a confirmed Rimowa owner. I have had my two Rimowa suitcases for 14 years! Yes, 14 years. And I travel by air 20-30K per year plus international travel, and have both carry-on and checked my cases. So that is a lot of miles on these suitcases. Aside from a few scratches and one "ding" they are in great shape and will last me the rest of my life. Before I purchased my Rimowas, I was going through a suitcase every year or two. So for me, the Rimowas have more than paid for themselves!
How much bro
I was dating a Chinese girl. She had very beautiful luggage she brought from China. Same features as the one you show. I’m sure they weren’t expensive. But she traveled with those everywhere and they were very good quality. This one’s I read a lot of complaints about. I’m thinking of just ordering something for. China hahshhs
You are definitely talking about a brand called LeadMing, they make decent quality luggage for affordable prices.
Good content and video bro
Appreciate it! Hope you subscribed for more! Let us know also what we can do better for our channel :)
Can you help me i haven't received mine order from MVST. I am from Amsterdam Netherlands.
Hey thanks for the review. I am struggling between Trek and Space. I noticed Trek has three hinges but Space only has two. Have you noticed any difference in performance?
Not really. No complaints about the hinges. The main differences are the lock mechanism, the interior and exterior. Do you have a trip coming up?
@@familydayoff Always. I ended up getting it (Space). Now waiting for it to arrive.
I had to return mine. Lining was not well fabricated. Exterior was excellent!
Oh no. How was the return experience for you?
@@familydayoff I do not want to deal with this product! Big mistake!
Thanks so much for the info! This is a really great option for check-ins. BTW, Do you happen to know where it's made from? I'm having challenge finding it online. Thanks again!
It’s made in China of course. Hold off on buying this. The locks broke on two of the cases we bought. I will be making a follow up video soon.
@@familydayoff And that's WHY you buy RIMOWA. On my last trip, one of the RIMOWA locks stopped working. I took the luggage to the Rimowa boutique (even without a receipt) and they apologized, changed the lock, and handed over the repaired luggage in just a few days back. All this - absolutely free of charge, as you have a lifetime warranty.
@@TomasLonga Thanks for the input. Makes sense if you can afford it.
@@TomasLonga I have a Rimowa in which the lock broke , they changed the lock and it continues with the same problem so I dont even know if they changed it.
@@familydayoffI was going to ask you about your experience with the MVST during your recent trips. Sounds like the experience isn’t very good..
Im more in the market for something metal but small enough for me to put my gaming laptop in with a couple controllers and all the wires. Does anyone know a good, metal, and preferably dark colored briefcase? Pleaseet me know.
We had another product we recently made. Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/OMWEA1PayGo/видео.html
check if it's something you like.
Rimowa is all about the wheels …. The way it slides is unmatched . I need a comparison from someone who has owned a rimowa
Coming up! Are you in the market for one?
@@familydayoff i have a rimowa. Thinking about getting a different one only if wheels are similar . If not I will spend more for rimowa
If you have the money to spend... spend it! Do you have any trips coming up? @@LWT633
Hey bro, on the the trip to Oahu, where did you get the white duffle bag sit on top of your carry on? is that a canvas one? Thanks!
beistravel.com/products/the-weekender-in-beige is that the bag?
"Porsche has a Nissan Z... " haha! epic! Love my Rimowa. :)
Exactly
What’s the best part of your Rimowa ownership?
@@familydayoff Hmm... I've certainly had (and have) less expensive luggage. For me, it's the luxury aspect of Rimowa. The story behind the brand, the reasoning for being aluminum, the price. Sure my $80 luggage from Costco also gets it done, but I enjoy my Rimowa much more. I disagree that "good branding" has fools buying into lies. We may all have different opinions as to "worth" but using cost of materials as the sole determiner of value (as I see often in various comment sections) is a shortsighted argument. Good branding also tells a brand's story in a way that highlights and represents their ideals and ethos, and answers the all important question, "why?"
Are the latches plastic or metal? I bought another brand that is similar and very disappointed that the latches are plastic. After one trip they are starting to break.
They are plastic. Did you buy a new suitcase yet?
Respect from france
I have the trunk from Rimowa for a 1.5 years now. It took 2 weeks for the hooks holding the straps inside to break. 1500 can$ for that, unacceptable. Yes, i’m looking for alternative.
Oh dang... have you decided on an alternative yet?
It is very interesting to see who actually uses Rimowa’s. Seems like in Asia it is much more of a status symbol to have this type of luggage and the only person I know that actually owns one is in the Philippines. Now granted my friend even transporter wine bottles in her luggage so it does protect the insides but much better than other hard sided luggage remains to be seen.
That said good review even if I don’t see the need.
You hit the nail on the head. Having a Rimowa is mostly for status!
@@familydayoff The interesting thing is most people want that the aluminum carry on's because they won't get beat up as much, but typically you don't need much protection on a carry on because you aren't tossing it around. But then how many people want to spend $1500 on a full sized piece of luggage that is just going to get thrown around and beaten up anyway and you are only seeing a for a few minutes or hours each year. Would be nice to see them in person to really judge. Thanks again for the review.
I have Rimowa Salsa air because of its weight. Very light especially when traveling to Asia where carryon and checked baggage are weighed and strict limits. I’ve been looking for other lightweight cheaper suitcases. I have BEIS, Brics and Kipling for domestic travel that is less strict with weight.
I use Rimowa for Asia because it’s light
MVST is also made and engineered in 🇩🇪 GERMANY. ORIGINALLY FROM MUNICH, GERMANY.
apiece....stop lying. MVST = CHINA
I’ve regretted all my rimowa aluminum cases. Actually even my polycarbonate one has unfixable cracks.
Oh no. What happened to them?
Hartmann baby!
you can buy directly from the very same factory for USD80... for 26 inch
For sure..lots of imitations but i think it matters on the services on the end. Wouldn't you agree?
I bought a Rimowa $1000 many years ago.. regretted as it is too heavy and small capacity ...more for vanity than practical usage...now I leave Rimowa at home and travel with my $50 super great PPE luggage Made in China.. and after 3 yrs still too good to be replaced...@@familydayoff
How is it Porche 911 comparable to nissan Z?
Rear/midship engine and rear wheel drive
Front engine rear wheel drive
They're mass produced sports cars Americans usually buy. What car do you prefer?
Got this as a set of 3 for $250 under another name LUGGEX
OOR THEY WATER PROOF
If you buy MVST you’ll pay more in the long run. The quality of Rimowa will outlast MVST and other copy cats. If you’re looking for an alternative at a lower price point rather look at Tumi, Samsonite or Horizn.
Actually there is a soft close handle on Rimowa on different models…
Finally!
@@familydayoff had mine for 5 years. Has a soft close handle.
No actual product, you guys can skip this vd like me if looking for comparison
We never said we have a Rimowa. It says mvst on the title. Thanks for watching!
If you want something that looks like a Rimowa, then you should get a Rimowa, not a Chinese knock off
Where is msvt made in?
I think it's China. Where did you think it was made?
😬 I know you meant it as a comparison of equal quality to lower price; but as a watch enthusiast and Seiko admirer, I cannot tolerate the slight at Seiko's prestigious name. Now good day to you Sir.
lol do you not like the comparison to the case?
How much did they pay you or was it free suitcases 😂😂😂💶💶💶💶💶💶💶💶💶
You can easily change the wheels on the luggage
wow good to know!
Good luggage from Cologne in Germany…🎉
Thanks for watching! Our friend lives there! She said she loves it there so far. We might visit next year!
They no.longer guarantees their cases..I’ve got a bad experience with Rimowa and they told me to claim from the airlines instead!!!
Thanks for sharing! We do have another suitcase that you might like. We made a video about it. Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/OMWEA1PayGo/видео.html
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Lmaoooo great review
Yaaaa! Thanks!! Please subscribe!
I’ll just remove the wheel overtime. And replace them.
Makes sense. Where can you buy replacement wheels?
@@familydayoffI wonder if Rimowa wheels fit them? Or if it’s possible to install them DIY onto different brand luggages.
Stilll rather get the RIMOWA
why do u keep saying rimo va
That's the proper way to say the brand.
@@familydayoff why does the CEO of rimowa, who is german, says it rimo WAH?
Don’t know. Say whatever you like.
VolksVAHgen
@Jerico Tato Folks Vah Gen 😆
Cute ad but it doesn't even look like actual metal in the video.
Oh it’s metal. What did you end up buying?
Anyone own the RIMOWA X ADIDAS ?
Not me. Is it nice?
I don’t like these bags at all. Hard shell bags get thrown around dent and fall apart….
Check this one out:
ruclips.net/video/nSs4h-DRpnA/видео.htmlsi=y3QBK-xPlmMwRDdA
We will be posting a video about it soon since we’ve traveled with the Duravo bag in our recent trip. It’s actually my hubby’s favorite :)
This is my second purchase of a lvguu replica pack and it still looks just as beautiful...will be the third purchase.
Just to remember…..RIMOWA comes lifetime warranty and because of that you buy one time for a lifetime product!!!
That's right. Do you have experience with the warranty?
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MVST is for folks who don’t want to pay for Rimowa. Nothing wrong with that. It’s just personal preference. For me, Rimowa all the way. Life is too short for a 2nd class luggage.
Good for you Tesla Money man. Would you buy a Rolls Royce over a Tesla?
@@familydayoff No, because it's a gas car.
this is just an ad read not a real review
I wish we were paid for it! Do you not believe that we bought them?
@@familydayoff You have a referral code. You get a kickback to convince viewers to purchase. It couldn't be more blatant.
They gave the code after we made the video. We didn’t know we were getting a referral link til the video was done. Are you still unconvinced?
@@russelmaharaj6560 We actually got the affiliation after showing this video to them (after getting 10k views). We didnt expect it at all. We just trully like the luggage after researching so much. How should we approach this next time? we do tend to be to biased with things we love a lot haha!
also, we will do a follow up video because we did encounter some problems after our trip to the Philippines...
I don’t understand this video! Its probably me. You start with Rimowa hiwngood it is and than you switch to your review?! So its goos, its also somewhat bad? Who knows… who knows right? So you compared pros and cons right? Not really. But ok, surrely you made a decisive conclusion based ob thorough review of Rimowa and your purchase right?! Not really. Complete waste of my time this video
Yes this video is not about Rimowa. It's about MVST.
They have such bad reviews and you actually recommend this brand??
I just received the carry-on luggage today and the big disappointment was the telescopic handle is so flimsy and weak. My 80 bucks Costco Delsey's handle is much stronger and study than this! I ordered 2 and will return them upon the second one arrived.
Oh no. Please subscribe for our follow up video. We’ve since went to two countries and back with them. Many updates!
Was this the Trek or Space carry-on? Thx
Rimowa use too much ad, pay celebrities, that is why expensive for nothing, like perfumes
Merci! We agree. Are you in the market for a suitcase?
@@familydayoff no nothing
Thanks for watching! Are you traveling any time soon? @@doucefrance5481
Pass. No thanks.
No. Thank You 😊
Love *condupcom* bag. This has to be the best, most detailed bag authentication ever on RUclips. Thank you so much for sharing *condupcom* .
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