The Materials Concern Me - Outdoor Vitals Fortius 2 Tent - Preview
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- This is the newest Outdoor Vitals tent and I have to admit, I have major concerns about it.
This is TOGR's preview and first look of the Outdoor Vitals Fortius 2P tent.
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Outdoor Vitals Fortius 2P Tent - First Look
What it is : This is a trekking pole tent from the company called Outdoor Vitals. This is new to the market and I have received countless requests to review it.
Thanks to all of the requests, I purchased this tent so that I can give you all an Agenda Free Review.
I’ve heard that there are some videos on this tent already but I’ve been told that they can’t be trusted.
That’s why TOGR exists; I’m going to give it to you all straight. The good, the bad, and I’ll show where a product excels and where it falls behind.
Does this tent look familiar in terms of design?
I would say yes! What do you say?
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Versions : This is a Fortius 1p and 2P tent
Colors : Arctic which appears to have a green hue to it and Blue
Materials : Floor & fly - 15 D sil / PU micro-ripstop nylon, 1,500 mm HH
Mesh - 10D no-see-um nylon mesh
Zippers : YKK
Weight : 2lbs 2.5oz
Measurements Compressed : 5.5” x 7”
Measurements Setup : Measure in Video
Cost : $340
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Features :
Taped seams
2 doors
2 person
2 interior hanging loops
Lots of guy lines
Thoughts :
Overall this looks to be a very nice tent -
Setup is fairly straight forward - if you have ever setup a trekking pole tent before, you’ll make easy work of it.
Quality looks to be very good but not great - I did find a few loose threads which is slightly disappointing especially when some very inexpensive tents have exceptional fit and finish. This is a pricey tent
Materials - with this being a 15D sil PU Nylon, I am concerned about stretching especially when it's out in the rain. It will stretch, it will sag but the question is, how bad will it be? The materials for this tent are higher end and they should be for the price
Weight : The weight for this tent is very good but something that you have to remember is that trekking poles are required for the setup - if you carry trekking poles with you when you are out backpacking, you’ll appreciate the lower weight but if you don’t carry trekking poles then the weight of this tent isn’t all that impressive.
Looks - This is an awesome looking tent - I love the blue color with the yellow accents.
Summary :
This tent looks to be a fairly close copy of the Zpacks Duplex tent - the duplex is an amazing shelter using some of the most advanced materials in the world, it’s insanely lightweight (around 1lb) and is also insanely expensive…not everyone needs or wants to spend that sort of money on a tent.
That alone makes this a very interesting tent.
I like what I see here but I would say hold off on purchasing this tent for now, at least wait for me to rain test this tent. I think it will be waterproof but I’m concerned about the stretching that is going to happen with this material. It will stretch, it will sag but how much? We will find out very soon.
Coming up I’m going to perform a rain test with this tent and I will do my best to get that up next week; rain is forecasted so make sure to subscribe
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I own the one person version of this and took it out for a few days in Manistee National Park in Michigan. I can say that it held up incredibly well even in the rain. I just set up my tent before everything else and later readjust after it's had time to stretch a bit.
I own the zpacks duplex and couldn't be happier. Zero faults. Near zero weight condensation no problem with correct setup.Zero stretch. Glad I spent the extra. .
I have this tent and the 1p version. Took it out in rain and hail with my daughter and dog, we fit well kept dry and had a great time. Minimal condensation. I trust it and love how compact it packs in my bag. I'll be taking it across some colorado peaks In The near future. Look forward to hearing your follow-up as you get to use it.
It would be nice to have a VS episode with the lanshan pro 2 person tent from 3L UF Gear :)
I have one of their jackets. Love it.
If your headed down this path just spent the money and get the Duplex. It’s way lighter, will not stretch, does not hold water and best of all it’s made in the US. Not in some far away place by workers making next to nothing. I did not bite the bullet and purchase the Duplex and I now own two additional tents. Last fall I hiked with a couple for about 11 miles and they both loved their Duplex and they convinced me it would be the tent for me. They were spot on. Yes I know it’s expensive but cry once and never look back. If you want even lighter get their one person version, it’s about 15 oz. I own a lot of Zapck gear and it’s all been great. No more new tents for me I am set for years. I watch this channel because I love gear and Luke does a great job.I can understand if you don’t backpack much or put in big miles tents like this being fine but if you hike a lot and put in big miles get the Zpacks. Your body will thank you.
I love Outdoor Vitals as a company. I watched videos of the owner field testing this tent over the last year. Outdoor Vitals is a solid company that I trust even though they are a small cottage style outfit. No peice of gear is perfect, but this tent looks solid to me. If I didn't already own the Zpacks Duplex and the Lanshan Pro 2, I would definitely buy this tent.
not to be argumentative, not my intention at all, but OV manufactures all of their gear overseas so "cottage" wouldn't be a word I would use to describe them.
@@Tallpagangirl basically every “cottage” brand gets stuff from overseas
@@Tallpagangirl I could probably agree to some extent on your definition of the term "cottage" because they don't actually sew/build their own gear, but there are many small companies that don't sew/build their own stuff, but are still listed on cottage company lists. Technically not a "cottage" company, but they live/operate in that realm.
Just wondering why if you already have the Duplex would you even consider this tent? I own the Duplex and it’s way lighter, no stretch. I don’t see anything great about this tent other than cost. To me this tent is heavy for a trekking pole tent. I don’t see them as a cottage industry company. They make all their stuff in a big factory that is making other tents for many tent companies. All of Zpacks tents, packs, quilts and sleeping bags and some of their other gear is made in Florida. They are cottage company along with others like Lite AF.
@@mtadams2009 I love my Duplex. It is by far the best tent that I have ever owned. The reason I would consider this tent is because I am always outfitting others when I can convince them to go out backpacking with me. I own another five 2-person tents, some free standing for desert conditions. Some people would consider this tent because it is 1/2 the price of the Duplex.
As for cottage companies, we have discussed above. One of the big appeals of a cottage company is they are small and offer great customer service to be able to stay in business. Zpacks is no longer small and many customers complain they have lost the customer service they once had. I would argue that Zpacks is technically no longer a cottage company either. They are definitely not sewing tents out of a garage. They have a small factory that mass produces their gear as apposed to one or two people sewing them in the same small space. Outdoor Vitals may not be producing their own gear in this way either, but they are still a small company, that you can interact with the owner, and customer service is paramount to them.
I don't see a reason to go for this when the Lanshan 2 Pro exists. Same size, weight and design. But with materials that I personally trust more and a lower price tag. The Lanshan is double silicone coated which makes it surprisingly strong for the weight, so there's no PU coating that'll degrade other than the one on the floor but at least that's an easy spot to fix down the line if needed. I've had my Lanshan 1 in some serious heavy winds that howled all night long with zero damage whatsoever. I suppose you could skip the Lanshan if you find seam sealing scary or something. But seam sealing is easy and it makes the tent even stronger than it already is.
I tried purchasing the Lanshan Pro 2 off of Aliexpress and got screwed over by the Chinese company. They sent the wrong tent (one person version) and wanted to charge me again for shipping to send the correct tent. They had me over a barrel. I would never buy from China when there was a similar option from a great USA company like Outdoor Vitals.
@@danharrison5285 I was fortunate enough to be able to get it from a Swedish company that keeps a stock of them here. So no issues. But it makes sense to not bother if you've been burned like that.
Excellent review. I've got excellent camping gear thanks to your reviews. No money wasted thanks to your excellent reviews
What is your favorite gear out of all of them?
Lol, you should have done a quick set up and got the water testing out of the way ! lol Thanks again for the first look Luke.
I really like you videos and the detail that you go into. Looking forward to your "water test". I have a feeling that it will do just fine. I've used very similar trekking pole tents of SIL Nylon. Yes, they will sag when wet but I haven't found it overly problematic even without using pull outs. I usually do a couple walk arounds of the tent once set up to tighten things up. Everything is a give/take... single wall trekking pole tents tend to be lighter and fast to set up... which makes them great for thru hikers concerned about weight over the long haul.
Seems like a good tent for arid environments. I’m thinking mountains of cali, Arizona and Nevada. Maybe for the lower portion of PCT this would be excellent.
already bought it, so very hopeful that your next installment gives it a thumbs up :)
Me too!
Your reviews are very fair, trustworthy, and of great value. Thank you.
Not a review yet though…
Good start reviewing this tent. I cant wait to see the rain test.
It's always good watching your videos.
Appreciate the thorough reviews. 👍
Always nice to hear these reviews.Thank you.
IF Luke is saying "No" and has concerns, that's good enough for me.
Video liked and enjoyed
“I don’t care if you buy this or not.”
My favorite part of every gear review Luke puts out. S&H
Haha yeah love that part too "i have no skin in the game, i do not care"
Good afternoon from Syracuse NY Luke and thank you for testing the equipment
Looking forward to you testing the tent, thanks Luke 👍
Tbh if you want this design pay less get lanshan 2 pro.. tbh I'm really not a fan of single wall in UK... Your kit ends up soaked.. I just bought the Sierra designs high route 3000. Offset two pole design inner n outer can be erected together or separately... So good versatility. It's similar design to the X Mid ... My only slight gripe with it is vertical walls n small vestibules... That said I'm trying an easy mod to fan out the vestibules... I think this tent would be worthy of your inspection 😉
LOVE YOUR REVIEWS
If you can, I'd like to see a review of the dan durston x-mid 1p tent
No need. They’re solid
@@frostriver4547 But very hard to get your hands on! Sells out 5 minutes after they notify you it's back in stock...you gotta be fast!
@@rumblechick73 sign up for notifications and have your account set up through their pay system and you will get one
@@frostriver4547 Unfortunately their timing doesn't coincide with my income situation! LOL
Will be interesting to see its performance. Especially in comparison to the Duplex or in my case very interesting to the Lanshan2 pro. ( haven’t received the tent yet and I’m following your instructions to seal it ). Those three tents represent pretty much the most appealing hiking tents that I’m interested to buy. Lanshan with the lowest price, the Duplex being too expensive for me right now .
Im going with the Teton you reviewed. I think it will be great for my needs next year. I have a family tent but when I want to go out alone your review sold me on that Teton.
I bought the Teton this year and love it! It did not leak once with 3 days of rain!
Appreciate the reviews.
I have to say,I would be going for the DD Xmid 2 p every time.
The tent is $40 cheaper, and the material is polyester and won’t hold water. Yes, it is 5 ounces heavier, but it is a double wall tent. I think it is a much better quality and cheaper. Most importantly Dan himself is behind the best customer service I have probably ever seen. He has answered many of my questions on many different web sites. I have asked OV the same question several times on their website over the past couple of weeks and can’t get an answer. If I can’t communicate with them before a sale, I wonder how hard it would be after. Won’t buy from them unless I see a significant change.
I don't understand why companies keep making ZPacks clones. There are already good copies out there for less $ than the OV iteration. Just makes me appreciate the approach Dursten took in designing his X-Mid tents. I have a 1P X-Mid and always get asked about it on trail. It's a double walled trekking pole tent that weighs 29oz and has 2 vestibules. I love it. I've converted numerous Duplex/clone owners to the X-Mid.
dang, 340? I used an outdoor vitals lightweight tarp for my hammock when I kayaked the Mississippi. I loved it, no issues at all. after the trip I was looking at O.V. for other products and their prices were high, too high to justify buying. When I reached out to them on the price of a specific item and asked them to justify the price they simply told me, other similar items are priced similar to ours. If that is the only reason for a high price I will pass.
I agree and am disappointed in the change from their original business model since the beginning premise was to cut out the middleman and produce decent equipment for less. That was the entire reason they started the company. But now I see their prices matching the moderate to high-end producers and it has turned me off. That said, I'm a preferred member and pay $10 a month which just sits there building up until I decide to buy something. When this tent went on presale to members it was for $289, with free expedited shipping and I already had $250 waiting for me to spend it, so for another $42 I bought it. I haven't had a chance to even set it up yet. If I could have gotten the Dan Durston XMid I would have chosen it instead, but it sells out faster than I can grab it!
@@rumblechick73 Yeah not sure how to proceed with them, I liked the product I got but man that customer service response... CS is a big part of my job so I would have coached them with a better response. Im all about companies making money but im not about paying big $$$ for something just because they other guys sell it for that! Too bad... several companies I use for my longer trips have really let their customer relations go to hell... bummer
@@escapewithjay So far I haven't had any issue with their customer service, but their website is a little wonky and created an issue that caused me to have to stop my membership and re-start it which resulted in getting charged another $10 in the same month, but I did get a free titanium spoon out of it, so no big deal. The stop/restart was their way of fixing the initial problem.
@@rumblechick73 glad to hear, snugpak was a company i put loads of trust in their products and often pitched them to others. recently had 2 of their hammocks fail me in the middle of the night on the banks of the Mississippi. they didnt bother to respond to me either time i reached out the issues
i like their other products but it doesnt say much when they cant take 2 minutes to write back...
o well
@@sarahmlarocque The seller sets the market price and they can make it anything they want. If they set it too high, no one will buy it anyway, or maybe a few who think high price equates automatically to high quality.
love your vids Luke, maybe its the music , but i just chill watching you do your stuff... love the snow...none here where i live.... I did want to ask is Lone Wolf mountain on your own property.. I know you like to be cool about about where you live... so if so wow....cool back yard.... I grew up doing what you and your brother did as kids....The bush was just across the road ..downhill into the river valley....Didnt know it then but our indigenous peoples fished and ate oysters at waters edge and over the last 20k years the pile of shells and bones created a history of that time...The archaeologists drool over it now called 'middens'.But then it was just a big pile of old shells... I like you was exposed to nature as it is ...as we were children we become one with nature and that never leaves us.... S and H...
Press a Big Thumbs Up 👍! Luke is pitching it out there
Outdoor Vitals is big in the thru-hiker community and they distribute their products to lots of thru-hikers which in turn leads to positive reviews/advertising. Personally, I have always thought their products to be over-priced, for what you get.
What thru hiking community? I have not seen one OV tent in the PCT AT CDT communities. They pay RUclips actors to promote their goods.
Luke, my friend. I hope you and your lovely lady are doing well. I am about to turn 68 and want to get back into the woods. I am interested in car camping and not sleeping on the ground. Do you have any tents you would recommend? I love your reviews, keep up the great work. I will keep an eye out for your reviews. Thank you.
Great video as always! Just gotta say the color filter on this one was , personally, a bit too much but keep up the great work!
This is a good looking shelter. Can't wait for your H2O-proof testing.
In the video you had stated there are some tents around $90 with no issues. Can we get a video with those tents listed?
Interesting tent! I had a sil nylon tarp and I no longer use it because that thing sagged so bad and I had to continue to tighten everything up. I am curious how this tent will perform, if it is anything like my tarp it will be bad. Thanks for your review Luke. I respect you more than any other RUclipsr. Most RUclipsrs take it out of package set up and give positive reviews because 99 % of the time it was given to them for free and expect positive reviews in return. I skip those Bs reviews and only watch you
If you are worried, then I am worried. Great video as usual.
Luke,you must have an entire building full of gear by now lol but i am glad you are letting us know what gear is junk and what is good before we buy something.
Hi Luke! How is it going today! Looks nice and functional this tent. But if it stretches as badly as you believe, then it's a looser!
I asked Tayson about the material choice, and he said that nylons stretch was picked because of the durability and weight of the material.
The tent: 1500mm HH
The rain: am I a joke to you?
Looks like a nice tent but it’s too early to buy like you said. Wanna see what the weather does with it.
definitely is a good looking tent , cant wait for the results
Thank you Luke for buying it and test it out ! I like dan becker content but can’t trust his opinion on this one..
Hi, I was wondering about this tent. Looking forward to your next review. I am so interested in your thoughts of the Durston x mid 2p.
The problem with that one is getting your hands on it! It is sold out 5 minutes after it's restocked!
Great first look Luke!! Your setup looks spot on!! Roomy! The mesh around the edges of the tent should def help with condensation. I carry only one trekking pole and could see myself carrying the one man version for short trips of even in a bugout bag. Nice! Look forward to seeing how it performs in the rain! We all know that is key! I just spent 6 days camping with my litefighter 1 tent in heavy rains and it didn't leak a bit! So happy with it, such a reliable tent and being that its made for our soldiers it better be. I did carry the outdoor vitals foam sleeping pad. I put it under my inflatable etherlite xt pad and it worked great! OV makes good products. Check out their new rain jacket! Hike on!
Actually I believe they’re one person tent takes “two” treking polls also.. Which leads me to believe that it is very stout
For the money I think this tent is very nice but there are lower priced tents that will do the job better. Going on a camping trip this October, lake front in North Carolina. I am trying a all new set up this year. On the advice of TOGR I have picked up the Teton Sports four mountain ultra at $150. Also got the Aqua Quest Defender Tarp 10x10 at $109. I can't stand in the tent so I plan to have the tarp half cover the tent high enough to have dry standing space just as I step outside the tent. So for $260 all in I will have a nice sleeping space and plenty of covered dry standing space. My old tent the Cabela's Alaska Guide six man will now become the community central hub. A bunker of a tent that will accommodate the entire group for foul weather if any comes along. I think I have all my bases covered for this trip, we will see how it goes. Obviously I am a car camper but all the camping gear I have just mentioned comes in smaller sizes more in line for backpacking.
It always annoys me that most tents now days don't come with enough stakes to fully setup the tent, especially at this price point. IMO all tents should come with enough stakes to fully set it up and 1 or 2 spares. Thanks for sharing and being awesome!!
Luke: Some day review the Lightheart gear duo tent at the same $340 price point, (plus seam sealing is extra) It weighs about the same as the OV tent in your review, and the LHG DUO has a longer and wider floor, with a very strong trekking pole set up. I have the Lightheart gear So Long six tent, rated as a 1.5 person tent, and have been very satisfied with it.
Beyond my budget to begin with, but I have friends that will look forward to your full review on it.
Thanks!
Thank you so much for the support Pauline!
It really helps a lot.
S&H
- Luke
I own the single person version. Have had some major condensation issues during 50 degree nights with reasonably low humidity. Only going to be good for hot, dry camping I think.
Curious, did you open the top zipper at all to help it vent or did you have it all zipped up?
I treat every one of Luke's reviews as gospel. It is so nice to be able to see an honest and very informative review on each and every item Luke tests out. TOGR is the very best and that is the reason I subscribe to their channel.
The tent stake thing shouldn't be much of an issue as most campers will have plenty kicking around.
Still waiting for you to review the Crua Duo maxx I’d love your insight
Will be interesting to see if the lack of vents up top makes this tent worse for condensation than the lanshan you're testing (Even though that's the 1 person. The 2 person would have been a better comparison).
I think I'll stick with my Lashan 2 at 1/3 the price!
Same. Loved the Lanshan 2 so much, I picked up a 1Pro. Can't beat 1lb 8oz for $130 ish.
I love mine as well. It has been a great tent for me
I love your videos and respect your honest reviews. You've got a lot of videos, and I'm sorry if you've already done one, but could you review the AMOK hammock? Is it worth the money? I backpack quite often and its a huge price tag, so I wanna make sure it's worth it before buying.
I don't think he has because he doesn't care for hammock camping in general, I think lonewolf 902 and Joe robinet both have videos on the amok.
I have the Amok 5.0 UL and it is extremely comfortable and basically destroys most other hammocks out there when it comes to comfort and features. Im a side and stomach sleeper and traditional diagonal lay hammocks do not work for me at all. Hence why I went for an Amok. I don't think you can go wrong with it at all. For backpacking you'll probably want the UL version since it weighs a fair bit less than the standard version.
@@FuttFel Thank you. I actually bought the amok yesterday (after I left the post) and I can't wait to get it. I bought the UL mat and tarp but decided to go with the 5.0 hammock instead of the UL hammock. That extra 120ish dollars didn't seem worth it to save 1 pound. I hope I made the right decision. We will find out. Thanks for the help though.
@@JimmyJusa Yes. I subscribe to both of them. I will have to look for those videos. Thanks.
This seems very similar to the OneTigris Tangram. Will you ever do your review of that tent, after you did the rain test for it?
Very expensive but I like the size for my dog and I. Can't wait to see if it's waterproof. Thanks Luke
Check out the Six Moon Designs Lunar Duo in the meantime. It uses a 30D silnylon instead of 20D in this tent. Or you can check out the Lunar Solo which is silpoly.
The one thing that nylon does really well is stretch !
cant believe you have yet to review a Gazelle T4 hub tent, id love to see that in rain and wind.
Thank you for doing this. I like OV products, but the SilNylon worries me. The reviews I've seen don't seem to be too in-depth. Yours will be the first actual test video I've seen.
I really enjoy your video I don't really know about the test I wait until you test then I know about this tent
I'm not real sure I'm liking the new coloring of your video(s). Your editing and post-production is always excellent, and it gives it a cinematic, arty feel, but I'm not sure it's best suited for a product review. It feels like I'm looking at you thru a scrim. JMHO, take it for what it's worth.
Timed your testing just right!
I'm a little concerned too... you don't usually telegraph whether you want us to buy a product. Usually you give your opinion on the pros and cons and then let us make up our own mind. Remember to cognizant of your power.
What are you talking about? Luke often warns against buying something he feels is a bad product. Here, he is just saying to wait until he has done his testing.
@@thatrealba yes! After he uses and reviews it!
Outdoor Vitals makes good stuff and they actually do their own R&D in the field on company backpacking trips which I think is awesome.
I think the fibers that make it ripstop factor into how much stretch there is, and I think it either has polyester or UHMWPE as the ribstop fibers so that would help tremendously. Nemo is basically doing that with their new OSMO fabrics on their premium tents.
I can't wait to see your findings Luke, your reputation as an unbiased and thorough reviewer is unmatched 🤙
The fact that field testing is not considered a bare minimum for an outdoor company says a lot about the state of the industry.
@@ChrisKerel agreed, most brands make products created by a marketing team instead of people who actually use the product
@@CastawayHikes I watched videos of the owner field testing this tent over the last year. Outdoor Vitals is a solid company that I trust even though they are a small cottage style outfit. No peice of gear is perfect, but this tent looks solid to me.
@@danharrison5285 the great thing about this channel is that we'll find out soon enough!
Hi Luke itis a nice wee tent I look forward to the rain testing .. I have bought cheap tents that have stayed dry in a wild storm ..I wonder about this one
As soon as you said sil nylon I got skeptical. I think dyneema is a better choice for a single wall tent since it won't absorb water or stretch like the sil nylon. My buddy had the BA scout 2 and it would sag like no other even in the dry due to the single wall condensation reality. I would spend the extra money for dyneema for anything single wall and unless its semi freestanding sil nylon isn't the best to keep things setup properly.
Nice look see. I have not seen many videos about this tent yet. I do expect that it will sag a fair amount, and I have found silnylon to have more condensation than silpoly or DCF, but careful site selection should mitigate that somewhat. I would be surprised if this tent leaks, but you never know; that is why I like how you thoroughly leak test tents and tarps.
please test also family tent
How about a review of a Crua Duo Luke?
that is why we love you because your gen free
Thanks another great informative vid I enjoy hammock camping I picked up the go outfitters 2.0 hammock after watching your vid it has become my go to hammock love it I would like to start winter hammock camping looking at hot tent products question have you ever heard of Lonewolf 902 hammock hot tent an if so would like your feed back on this product before buying 👍👍👍👍
No one seems to make a two pole short wall mountaineer 7x9 3 man so I've been working on my own version. I had one when I was teenager, I literally wore it out and I've not been happy with any dome or aluminum pole tent ever since.
Do a review on the one tigris tegimen please
Those deer have done a wonderful job of trimming the lawn, what a meadow.!!! Noting of course a lack of flowers, clover, crabgrass and weeds, just saying!!🧙♂️🦌
Compared to the Durston X-Mid I don't know how OV can really compete. Single walled silnylon tent and it costs more than the X-Mid. Still has a trekking pole in the middle of the door. It has many of the same issues and problems as most A framed trekking pole shelters. It's definitely better than the LanShan though in terms of ease of setup.
X-Mid is silpoly, no trekking poles in the middle of the door, double walled, more head space, zero mandatory guylines and only requires 4 stakes to pitch. And it's $40 cheaper.
If the xmids we're in stock and not being sold for 2x retail then yes.
@@kylemckinney_22 sign up for inventory or sale notifications. Got my X-Mid 2 Solid doing this. Love it! Worth waiting for
@@kylemckinney_22 next drop is in September. This time 3x to 4x the amount of inventory that was sold in January.
But yes Dan Durston seriously needs to get more stable inventory.
I think I'll wait for the availability of the X-Mid.
Had this question in an earlier video where you reviewed the Moon shade. "Is the moon shade really worth it? It seems like it is kind of small, and I would think you could replicate the same (with more flexibility) using one of the tarps you have reviewed in the past, along with 2 or 3 tarp poles (Cheaper, and more flexibility)? What are you thoughts when comparing to the tarp and poles approach?"
While you're doing tents like the Lanshan, could you get a Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo? Just like with this tent, most of the reviews online are of the older model or from brand ambassadors. Thank you!
Are you going to do the lanshan 2pro water test at the same time?
If you have a drought call Luke , he will bring rain with him , that makes him great at gear testing
Could you set your 4 corner tent stakes out as far as possible and attach the 2 side tent guy lines to the corner tent stakes? It may be worth a try to see if it is doable. Good Luck! :)
Wheb it comes to a tent of this dimension I'd just stick with the 3f ul tent either the pro or other one
Idk why but I was never really satisfied with OV gear yet . Im not in the market for a Tent since I’m extremely satisfied with my Tarptent Doublerainbow Li but anyway this reminds me of my Lanshan 2 somehow just double the price lol
I’d expected more from outdoor vitals I have a lot of there stuff and it’s all outstanding I mean no T door? It’s a lanshan 2 but better I guess? Off the bat I’m not seeing anything that interests me other then being made by a great company, I may be wrong and hope so.
You are my go too on
Outdoor gear reviews your the best
Love your reviews. But 300 plus for that tent is a no maybe 150
I don't think that design will be appreciated as it should when you have to keep adjusting the guy outs to the stretching material until you finally give up.
My ZPacks Duplex at 690.00 did not come with stakes nor did I want them as I wanted to purchase those on my own.
I ended up purchasing a combination of MSR Mini Groundhogs and ZPacks Sonic stakes.
As for the Outdoor Vitals Fortius, it’s a solid design that looks very much like the ZPacks Duplex.
At 350.00 I would want to see quality control dialed in.
Also all sil nylon tents sag, some more than others due to material thickness.
Overall I’m glad I saved in order buy the ZPacks Duplex for the simple reason that it’s made of DCF and not sil nylon.
DCF doesn’t stretch.
The high cost is worth it for me.
Could you please consider reviewing openongo aerial A1? I would be really interested in your opinion on hanigng tents, and I havent seen any reviews like that on your channell, and this one seems to be very little covered. Altough few videos that I found have quite positive opinions.
Where are the vents?
It's basically a Lanshan 2 pro but at twice the cost.
I like the tent... I love your Reviews.
You and your wife are Awesome
Hey Luke , can you do a review on the Belgian army surplus dome tent ? Seems to be a few of them floating around at the moment on the usual surplus websites
Why is condensation such a concern? Annoying, yes. Problem, no. Worst case you get a few drops here and there on you and your gear, which should be able to handle a little water. Also, besides sagging, there is not really an issue with lighter weight material (as long as its well made). The types of things that would rip a 15d would also rip a 30d material. Like a tree branch.
There’s so many inaccuracies in your comment
I want to see a company make a stuff sack that can unfold into a ground sheet. Nothing Earth shattering, but would be a cool feature. At $340 I would be upset with loose threads, I don't see paying that...I honestly think this thing might leak.