Wow! I’m 53 years old. I have been a “Christian” since I was 5. I have done all the Christian things, mission trips, leadership etc… I have never heard this before, about staying in the tension. When Melissa was sharing her testimony about the perfect painting she had painted and how then the teacher wanted her to mar the whole thing with the sharpie, I wept. I have this feeling all the time. When I get in conflict laden situations, I fall apart inside. Thank you for sharing. But what do I do now? I’m to old for your school. 😓. But I seriously need this, to leave in Jesus name.
I’m 63 myself…praying Grace over all of us to be led by our Good Father to the available tools for us. Thank You Lord you’re NOT restricted to this retreat alone to help us. Whether it’s a book to read, a counselor, a local art class taken with a friend and Holy Spirit…whatever…show us how we too can learn to be “learners again” and give us courage and a safe place/relationship to risk being vulnerable. Make a way Lord!
Your worship has gotten me through the hardest season of my life. It helped me to grab hold and not let go of Jesus. He saw me through! Such a testimony of His Love. Love all of you ❤
Sobbing ! Refreshing waves of the presence of God every time Melissa speaks! I feel the authenticity and reality being lived behind each word you say… I’m grateful you have the courage to learn this part of Jesus.. and so freely give it away and invite us to do the same.
I'm confused... I started to cry when you told the story about scribbling over the lines. This conversation stirred up the thoughts of peace being in a real place...
I’m 54, and I know exactly where you are, Tammy…I’ve done all the “Christian things”, but it has left me still questioning is God really there? The Lord continues to use the revelation that Jonathon and Melissa have been walking in with Jesus to help me see He IS with me and has been all along since I first said at age 7 during Good News Club, “Yes, I want Jesus!” This teaching gave me a fresh revelation of Psalm 23…that the journey with the Lord will eventually lead you to the table of tension and that’s where we learn our dependency on Him, His faithful to us and we get “oil” in that place for the rest of our journey. His presence is there!!! Yield to that process of learning and it will be so worth it!! I bought a large “history book” like the 18 inch Journey sells and I am creating with Jesus regularly and it is opening up my heart to Him in new and beautiful ways!! I suggest everyone gets one of these and meet Him at the table of tension!! You will learn how it feeds your soul!!
Amazing Angela!!! My learning experience from a very young age 5/6 was wrought with horrendous tension. Learning has been such a challenging place for me. God is working and speaking to me. And I praise Him for it. I know it will all be well. Praise God for the Holy Spirit. He is the teacher.
This is such a fantastic way of reaching people who can't be a part of their schools or their retreats, either because of age or finances or time. What another excellent gift from Cageless Birds to share the great deposits they have from G-D and share with us in a way we can experience wherever we are. Love and blessings to you all from Indiana! "How do we not lose heart?" Jonathan says this at 29:15 or so and that would be wonderful question to hear them talk about more. Because many, many people lost heart over the past three years. So good.
So many people feel like they can’t even be themselves at their church. It’s like we’ve got some type of fake Christianity going on where so many aren’t even being themselves to themselves or others. We think somehow that we’re supposed to be these perfect people doing perfect things, we can be a little imperfect here and there but not too crazy not too messy. We don’t wanna talk about that. God wants us to be real. Only then can we learn to be a place of healing for others. Where people actually feel safe to be real and can actually learn to be real, like the things you’re talking about. Where people can like you said come to the end of themselves and learn that it’s not about trying to tow the line and learn that they’re really safe, that Jesus really is their safe place and that other brothers and sisters in Christ really are safe. Jesus help us to heal. You are the Lord who heals us. ( the way we perceive life included) Put us back together again whole. Teach us how to be authentic and to live authentically. To learn who you really are and what this is all about.♥️Thank You for sharing your natural way so we can learn too💖restore us from this plastic version Jesus. 🙏☀️
I highly recommend the Cultivate series they offer. It has changed my life and helped me to connect with many of the things they talk about on all their videos. So thankful they are finding ways through books and videos to bring us along on their journey of cultivating a deeper relationship with Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
This is beautiful, and I’ve been really enjoying these videos. Thank you for sharing. My question would be: Yes, people at the 18 inch journey stay and choose to not reject us in a time of our tension/breaking down, which is beautiful and necessary. However, how do we prepare for the world that rejects us or judges us in a messy time (ex. when we work with so many who deny Jesus)? How can the 18inch journey prepare us for that, if it’s not already doing so? I mean this with the utmost respect and appreciate what you guys do. Love you guys mucho.
I wonder if people who are older are allowed to join your School? I am nearing fifty but it sounds like the school would be the perfect next step in my transformation process.
New Covenant Whole Gospel: Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. Watch the RUclips videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
I'm so angry and heartbroken by the Church in general being so foreign to vulnerability...but God finds ways like this platform to redirect us...
I hope this school is still thriving 20 years from now so my children can come experience this.
Wow! I’m 53 years old. I have been a “Christian” since I was 5. I have done all the Christian things, mission trips, leadership etc… I have never heard this before, about staying in the tension. When Melissa was sharing her testimony about the perfect painting she had painted and how then the teacher wanted her to mar the whole thing with the sharpie, I wept. I have this feeling all the time. When I get in conflict laden situations, I fall apart inside. Thank you for sharing. But what do I do now? I’m to old for your school. 😓. But I seriously need this, to leave in Jesus name.
Me too. I'm 54 and just had the same reaction.
Me too....
Yes I really believe the school needs to open up to us older people...WE NEED IT! ❤️🙏😭
and to mid-life crisis tension-facers who need a reset!
I’m 63 myself…praying Grace over all of us to be led by our Good Father to the
available tools for us. Thank You Lord you’re NOT restricted to this retreat alone to help us. Whether it’s a book to read, a counselor, a local art class taken with a friend and Holy Spirit…whatever…show us how we too can learn to be “learners again” and give us courage and a safe place/relationship to risk being vulnerable. Make a way Lord!
I'm 65 and I love to learn new things, in Jesus name. 🙋❤️
Definitely want more podcasts like these...so beautiful!
please keep making these
This is so encouraging and freeing! The revelation that you are not the only one that has been through this is huge.
Your worship has gotten me through the hardest season of my life. It helped me to grab hold and not let go of Jesus. He saw me through! Such a testimony of His Love. Love all of you ❤
Sobbing ! Refreshing waves of the presence of God every time Melissa speaks! I feel the authenticity and reality being lived behind each word you say… I’m grateful you have the courage to learn this part of Jesus.. and so freely give it away and invite us to do the same.
This is such a sessions.. return to be child like.. Papa loves when we fine our God given rhythm..
At 67 I have found my lane..
Ooooof staying in tension, needed to hear that! Thanks for sharing!
Me too, just today, just now!!
Wow! Please do more podcasts!
I'm confused... I started to cry when you told the story about scribbling over the lines. This conversation stirred up the thoughts of peace being in a real place...
Wow u guys....just wow!!! 😲
This is soooooooo GOOD!!!
Thank u so much for this deep revelation!! I love it and need this!!!
Big hugs xx 💞
You are never too old to learn new things. Really good message!
Love this ssoooo much! 💕💕💕
Love this! Thank you so much. Looking forward to more of these podcast discussions x
Such a good commentary on the relationship between creativity and human nature. Beautiful and very helpful!
The friction point... like driving a stick shift (tension point). Carefully releasing the clutch while accelerating. ❤❤
I love hearing every truthful words!!!
Thank you Jonathon and Melissa!! I am forever grateful to you for being so authentic and open with your relationship with Jesus!
I’m 54, and I know exactly where you are, Tammy…I’ve done all the “Christian things”, but it has left me still questioning is God really there? The Lord continues to use the revelation that Jonathon and Melissa have been walking in with Jesus to help me see He IS with me and has been all along since I first said at age 7 during Good News Club, “Yes, I want Jesus!” This teaching gave me a fresh revelation of Psalm 23…that the journey with the Lord will eventually lead you to the table of tension and that’s where we learn our dependency on Him, His faithful to us and we get “oil” in that place for the rest of our journey. His presence is there!!! Yield to that process of learning and it will be so worth it!!
I bought a large “history book” like the 18 inch Journey sells and I am creating with Jesus regularly and it is opening up my heart to Him in new and beautiful ways!! I suggest everyone gets one of these and meet Him at the table of tension!! You will learn how it feeds your soul!!
Amazing Angela!!! My learning experience from a very young age 5/6 was wrought with horrendous tension. Learning has been such a challenging place for me. God is working and speaking to me. And I praise Him for it. I know it will all be well. Praise God for the Holy Spirit. He is the teacher.
I feel so blessed to have scrolled through finding this. Truly inspiring in so many ways. I was hanging on to every word.
So so good. Really enjoyed this!!! ❤️
Awesome conversations! ✝️
This is such a fantastic way of reaching people who can't be a part of their schools or their retreats, either because of age or finances or time. What another excellent gift from Cageless Birds to share the great deposits they have from G-D and share with us in a way we can experience wherever we are. Love and blessings to you all from Indiana! "How do we not lose heart?" Jonathan says this at 29:15 or so and that would be wonderful question to hear them talk about more. Because many, many people lost heart over the past three years. So good.
So so good. So good. ❤
So many people feel like they can’t even be themselves at their church. It’s like we’ve got some type of fake Christianity going on where so many aren’t even being themselves to themselves or others. We think somehow that we’re supposed to be these perfect people doing perfect things, we can be a little imperfect here and there but not too crazy not too messy. We don’t wanna talk about that. God wants us to be real. Only then can we learn to be a place of healing for others. Where people actually feel safe to be real and can actually learn to be real, like the things you’re talking about. Where people can like you said come to the end of themselves and learn that it’s not about trying to tow the line and learn that they’re really safe, that Jesus really is their safe place and that other brothers and sisters in Christ really are safe. Jesus help us to heal. You are the Lord who heals us. ( the way we perceive life included) Put us back together again whole. Teach us how to be authentic and to live authentically. To learn who you really are and what this is all about.♥️Thank You for sharing your natural way so we can learn too💖restore us from this plastic version Jesus. 🙏☀️
I highly recommend the Cultivate series they offer. It has changed my life and helped me to connect with many of the things they talk about on all their videos. So thankful they are finding ways through books and videos to bring us along on their journey of cultivating a deeper relationship with Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
I love this! & its such a blessing to hear the heavenly strategy of the Father in this school! What a blessing to get to hear this 🙏🙌🕊💙🔥
This is really deep 😭 but a must 💜✝️🛐
This is beautiful, and I’ve been really enjoying these videos. Thank you for sharing.
My question would be: Yes, people at the 18 inch journey stay and choose to not reject us in a time of our tension/breaking down, which is beautiful and necessary. However, how do we prepare for the world that rejects us or judges us in a messy time (ex. when we work with so many who deny Jesus)? How can the 18inch journey prepare us for that, if it’s not already doing so? I mean this with the utmost respect and appreciate what you guys do.
Love you guys mucho.
It's one of my dreams to hang out with these people!
I wonder if people who are older are allowed to join your School? I am nearing fifty but it sounds like the school would be the perfect next step in my transformation process.
I would love to attend for the sake of learning, then maybe helping with a retreat/workshop for people of all ages in Northwestern USA.
What classes are you speaking of. It sounds like something amazing to me. I love you Jonathan and Melissa I listen to your worship a lot.
They have a school which is called the 18 inch journey. You can look it up online! 😊😊
@@dorothearuth2117 thank you for replying Dorothea. I appreciate it very much.
21:13 ❤
011923 I’m 80 years old and would live to experience freedom but think I’m too old for your classes.
There's a place for all,the process would unfold differently, we are all children of God, glad to be inspired at 62 myself,blessings
New Covenant Whole Gospel:
Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by
husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
Watch the RUclips videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.